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PC help ( CPU)
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Russia Im_Russian_men) 
so rn i have I5 6500 and i wanna change it. Should i go for ryzen? Should i go for i7? Need 300+ fps GPU is 1060/12gb ram
2019-03-23 13:23
8700k best cpu for csgo
2019-03-23 13:24
LOL.........
2019-03-23 13:25
#4
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
+1
2019-03-23 13:25
how about 9700k?
2019-03-23 13:39
#45
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
It's kinda the same thit but warmer
2019-03-23 13:47
#48
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
is this a joke
2019-03-23 13:49
#53
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
what makes you think so Or, you really think you will notice on which cpu you playing?
2019-03-23 13:55
#54
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
yes you will lol 8 real cores are way better than 6 cores with SHT
2019-03-23 13:57
#56
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
No you will not my little friend, csgo uses only up to 4 cores, which means? Now answer on it, so I am sure you understood me well.
2019-03-23 14:03
#58
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
so? 9700k still has a higher single thread performance and to correct you; it uses up to 4 threads, not cores.
2019-03-23 14:07
#62
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
Actually you are right, it is up to 2% (!!!!!) faster than 8700K,( 4.7Ghz vs 4.9Ghz so architecture increase is zero here) and I am compeltely sure you will see the difference there.
2019-03-23 14:13
#63
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
source?
2019-03-23 14:14
#64
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Georgia Fatal Fighter 
Check guru3d or techpowerup, I dunno, but cmon you know there is no difference between those 2 in csgo and probably other games too.
2019-03-23 14:16
#71
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
there may not be that big of a difference in csgo but there is one in new games If you consider that the price difference is almost not there, you should go for a 9700k (2900 vs 2750).
2019-03-23 14:30
youtube.com/watch?v=FwIBrNcpjZA&feature=.. 8700k > 9900k in cs go both overclocked @ 5ghz
2019-03-23 14:36
#106
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
imagine playing csgo at 1080p with high settings
2019-03-23 15:30
No major difference probably. But why would you get the previous gen cpu if you're gonna upgrade?
2019-03-23 15:23
Well, thats the other topic. But 8700K with its 12 threads gonna be faster in some tasks. Honestly, best thing to do is just wait for new Ryzen and hope that rumors were true. Im still happy with my 5820K @ 4.5Ghz tho, cant complain.
2019-03-23 19:15
Same ipc
2019-03-24 17:33
#174
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Australia Kalash1922 
Idk about that with the 1060, I go for ryzen 2600. Is a 1080p killer.
2019-03-24 12:49
8700k is not the best Cpu for cs go. I did have it at my new 9900k is ALOT better!
2019-03-24 17:39
it depends on whether u're gay or not
2019-03-23 13:25
#8
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
He's russian, how can he be gay?
2019-03-23 13:26
EZ
2019-03-23 13:39
Men we are from the same country u know do u consider u gay?
2019-03-23 14:48
#6
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Germany zeolikk 
Go for Ryzen, way cheaper and it's worth it
2019-03-23 13:25
Which ones men? there are a lot of them...
2019-03-23 13:28
#18
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Germany zeolikk 
go for ryzen 7 if you want budget go for ryzen threadripper if you want great performance but also want to pay alot
2019-03-23 13:29
#34
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
LMFAO why wouldnt he go for i9 9900k then? Way cheaper and way better performance in games.
2019-03-23 13:41
#47
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
threadripper wasn't meant for gaming and it actually sucks dicks in gaming considering price. If someone is willing to buy CPU for $800-1200 they should just go with $600 i9 9900k that delivers the best performance in gaming and is more than enough for average multi-tasking.
2019-03-23 14:00
Not true for pure gaming...
2019-03-23 13:28
#13
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Germany zeolikk 
yes true, I use one myself and I never have issues with games, even newest ones
2019-03-23 13:30
For games in general maybe ryzen is better value but for cs buy intel. Cs benefits so much from single core performance. And even in most of the other titles intel has a bit better performance, not that ryzen would have any issues. And no, I'm not any intel fanboy, I use r5 1600x myself.
2019-03-23 13:41
#37
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Germany zeolikk 
i have 400fps+ in cs so I don't care really
2019-03-23 13:42
Stable +400 fps in every map? Sounds like bullshit to me.
2019-03-23 13:45
#44
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Germany zeolikk 
ok then
2019-03-23 13:46
Everybody who says that is literally lying. Of course the peak or avg can be 400+, but there will be drops below 300 on every setup. I'm running 9900k, 2080ti, ddr4 3200 and m.2 ssd and still there are obvious drops below 400 and even below 300 every now and then. Not saying that its bad, but as I have literally the best possible machine for fps, I find these "stable 400+" people quite funny :)
2019-03-23 14:21
#99
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Europe crosst 
literallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterallyliterally
2019-03-23 15:23
Ok.
2019-03-23 15:30
#46
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Pakistan ItsfuckingRAW 
I think what people like you forget is that not everyone only plays CS:GO. In other games the Ryzen counterpart has a minimal difference and less so in higher resolutions.
2019-03-23 13:48
#144
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Turkey ravien9 
which ryzen cpu do you use mate?
2019-03-23 16:40
#7
Pumtac | 
Slovenia YuNOliek 
depends if you are going to stream or not
2019-03-23 13:26
Only play. i have 144ghz monitor and i want stable fps. Around 300 u know, with my cpu it not realy stable..
2019-03-23 13:28
then you can safely pick either. Intel is a bit better for csgo, because csgo is poorly optimized game for multi-core cpus, and prefers cpus with better single-core utilization. Get 8700k, it is plenty good enough. If you play other games and don't want to mainly focus on csgo, amd is just fine.
2019-03-23 13:31
Intel is actually quite a lot better in cs.
2019-03-23 13:42
yea it is
2019-03-23 13:43
depends on the money you want to spend. If you want absolute best you can get today, go for i7 9700k. It's the best gaming processor and probably the best thing you can get for csgo. Second best would be i7 8700k. Just make sure you get good cooler if you get either of them. Dont get me wrong, ryzens are good nowadays. It's just that intels are still considerably in pure gaming performance and far better in cs go specifically.
2019-03-24 12:42
If you wouldn't streaming just go for i5-9600k.
2019-03-23 13:26
#50
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
+1 probably best CPU for CSGO
2019-03-23 13:51
bought this one, tomorrow will get motherboard
2019-03-23 14:07
#60
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
which motherboard did u get?
2019-03-23 14:08
gigabyte Z390 UD
2019-03-23 16:02
#154
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
good choice
2019-03-23 17:46
every i5 overclocked is best for cs
2019-03-23 14:08
#89
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Chile hyveur 
Do you think that it really needs overclock? I have this cpu
2019-03-23 15:11
"best" its still fucking great without overclock do you ever drop below 200 fps? i want to buy it but i wont overclock it, since i dont know shit about overclocking.
2019-03-23 15:16
#95
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Chile hyveur 
I think it drops to 180-190 standing in the smoke, rest is fine
2019-03-23 15:20
Just turn on turbo mode from motherboard and u will hit easily 4.5 ghz with good cooling. Its that simple.
2019-03-23 19:21
+1 I have that and ez 300+ fps always with gtx 1060
2019-03-23 19:20
why would you need a new cpu, i5 6500 is enough for csgo
2019-03-23 13:27
For CSGO hyperthreading doesn't improve framerate, therefore i7 won't help. i5-8400/8500/9600/9600(k) are best suited choices for CSGO, but will require buying new motherboard. You can also get k version of i5 for your system and overclock it. Or if you conceive playing anything else or doing anything more than just CSGO, then Ryzen 5 2600 and above can be a better deal.
2019-03-23 13:30
So buyin better i5 is also a good idea?
2019-03-23 13:29
Going to be small improvement, unless it's a K series chip and overclocked. Which isn't option for your current system, if you do not have Z series motherboard.
2019-03-23 13:34
#51
bottle | 
Asia Ace_Y 
dude what u mean small improvement i5 9600 is more than twice as fast as his current CPU
2019-03-23 13:52
I mean upgrading his current system. I already wrote that coffee lake i5s are best suited CPUs for CSGO in my op. Not mentioning i7-9700k just because it's an exception.
2019-03-23 14:01
What's the point of having 300 fps+ ? Having 160 is enough for 144hz monitor
2019-03-23 13:29
No men its not. U need to have 144*2 to have a good PICTURE on ur monitor and it must be stable u know
2019-03-23 13:30
wtf are you even saying, 144hz displays 144 fps, that's all, you need a bit more in case of drop but not that much lol
2019-03-23 13:34
Wrong. Higher fps reduces tearing and input lag and is easily noticeable when you move your mouse.
2019-03-23 13:42
+1
2019-03-23 13:43
yes ty for answerin
2019-03-23 14:43
#182
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Argentina Haku43 
+1
2019-03-24 17:52
this is just bullshit, u dont need exactly double ur refresh rate, please source this garbage claim it's just a target
2019-03-24 17:45
Higher fps reduces screen tearing when not using vsync/gsync. Not using vsync/gsync allows for next picture to start getting rendered immediately on screen instead of waiting for next refresh cycle.
2019-03-23 13:40
yes ty for answerin
2019-03-23 14:49
braindead. it's the worst engine in a FPS ever made, if it's not stable, you can even feel it in your sens. I played since start of games, i never played any FPS game that you need more then 125fps(When 120-160hz on old crt screens.) and does not feel good, only BEEP trash of a source engine feel like CRAP, try go have fun in garry's mod, even tho you can run almost any game with 120fps or more, but garry's mod that look bad, run poorly and feels like shit, will lag like hell, guess why? (^_^)
2019-03-23 14:22
yes ty for answerin
2019-03-23 14:49
like cretins on the internet who claim with a smart face that the human eye does not see more than 60 frames per second
2019-03-23 16:51
Wait until Ryzen 3000 is out. Then decide. Everything else is pointless. And if you go for Intel, this time buy fucking "k" version. Im running my 2500k@5ghz and its from 2011. 300fps in GO.
2019-03-23 13:31
Why wait for Ryzen 3000 when there are already plently of options able to get you 300+fps in csgo? How much fps you need, infinite?
2019-03-23 13:42
#120
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Japan hirohito 
why then pay for example $400 if you'll get the double of the performance for that with zen3?
2019-03-23 16:10
Yes, why buy stuff that you require instead of waiting many months for a new tech to come out that isn't guaranteed to be improvement? If it's for csgo then Intel cpus already have a leg ahead of ryzen.
2019-03-23 16:50
#158
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Europe zero_hoes 
new releases bring down prices of all the past lineups, you only win in performance by waiting
2019-03-23 19:19
No, only if there is lot of unsold stock for the older products, that needs to get ridden off while there is still demand for it. Normally old stuff just runs out of stocks, hence the rare models still left on shelves instead gets more expensive.
2019-03-23 19:33
#164
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Europe zero_hoes 
hence the rare models still left on shelves instead gets more expensive. that is just nonsense, things that no one buys and pick up dust in stores and warehouses dont go up in value, as they are superseedeed every year, and are but a waste of space not being sold, they ALWAYS go down ALWAYS (mining and gpu craze aside)
2019-03-23 19:39
Have you looked up prices of any older hardware products? What things you're seeing in market cheaper? It makes perfect sense, for there is not much profit to be made from just few models left in shelves, so might as well rise the price, for leaving some in stocks adds increased chance for people to find your shop by searching for availability of that specific model. More so, the less left in stock the less you have to worry about marketing it. If the job is selling xx models you need to have appealing prices to encourage more people to come and buy it, but if you have just few left then someone will come and get it eventually.
2019-03-23 19:49
#166
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Europe zero_hoes 
that is just retartded im not gonna reply to you anymore cause it will take to much time out of my day to educate you
2019-03-23 19:47
I explained it plain as day. You just have to debunk those simple arguments.
2019-03-23 19:48
edit: ok, I explained it awkwardly, edited it some. Additionally people still holds parts of older systems, which sustains demand for older PC products.
2019-03-23 19:51
#169
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Europe zero_hoes 
now that is something that makes sense for once im 100% with you on that
2019-03-23 19:56
#23
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United Kingdom KieranFR 
Remember if you upgrade to one of the newer CPU's you will need to buy DDR4 ram as well as a new motherboard, DDR3 doesn't work with the newer CPU's
2019-03-23 13:31
#121
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Japan hirohito 
skylake is a ddr4 platform
2019-03-23 16:12
#126
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United Kingdom KieranFR 
It's ddr3 and ddr4, so he prob has ddr3
2019-03-23 16:17
#26
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France MineCSGO 
depends on how much you can put on. For csgo ONLY go for Intel. Replacing a CPU can sometimes leads to create a new pc, bcs your motherboard isn't working/ or just too bad with the new CPU. New Motheboard can lead to new ram and GPU aswell.
2019-03-23 13:36
#92
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Russia 1gor1 
And new power supply maybe ?=/
2019-03-23 15:14
Please don’t try to give tips if you don’t know about this stuff. Yes, he needs to change his motherboard and also ram if he currently has ddr3. But changing cpu has literally nothing to do with gpu or ”badness” of your motherboard, just if it’s compatible.
2019-03-23 15:25
#112
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France MineCSGO 
Having a 4 years old mid quality thing with a quite new gpu (or something else) is not what I call a real improvement, that's my point.
2019-03-23 15:47
To make it simple , ryzen is generally better for multitasking , i7 better for gaming.
2019-03-23 13:36
You won't get 300+ with Ryzen, probably something like 270+ with overclocked 2700X. Wait for Zen 2 (Ryzen 3xxx) or buy i7-8700k.
2019-03-23 13:37
#105
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
*9700k
2019-03-23 15:29
Don't be stupid. Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz, 6/12 $379.99 Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz, 8/8 $419.89 6 fast cores will be enough for most games but with 12 threads you get much better performance in multi-thread tasks, also i7-8700k has lower price.
2019-03-23 15:52
#125
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
here 9700k 459€ 8700k 469€
2019-03-23 16:17
I'd still go for 8700k over 9700k.
2019-03-23 16:22
#133
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
muricans...
2019-03-23 16:23
#127
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
also why dont you compare the turbo clocks? 4.7 8700k vs 4.9 9700k
2019-03-23 16:18
Turbo clocks don't matter since it's K version and you can manually set any frequency.
2019-03-23 16:20
#129
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
why would the stock clocks matter then
2019-03-23 16:20
Where did I say stock clocks matter. I was talking about cores/threads.
2019-03-23 16:21
#131
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
why did u have to mention them then
2019-03-23 16:22
I didn't. I just copy-pasted specs and you're the one who started talking about clocks, I was talking only about cores/threads.
2019-03-23 16:23
#135
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
8/8>6/12
2019-03-23 16:24
8700k and 9700k have the same performance in games which means most games won't benefit from 2 more cores.
2019-03-23 16:27
#137
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
sure as hell wont benefit from 2 less cores
2019-03-23 16:28
Of course, but can benefit from 12 threads in the future. Now just imagine 8 threads in, let's say, 2021, LUL.
2019-03-23 16:30
#152
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
retarded american...cant give less fucks anymore...
2019-03-23 17:07
And you're "happy" 9700k buyer I guess? :D
2019-03-23 17:22
#155
Aleksib | 
Finland xore1 
8600k
2019-03-23 18:39
Not that bad... if you only play games.
2019-03-23 19:14
#29
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United States Fin4life 
just built my son a new gaming rig not long ago...8700k...MSI 2080...Gigabyte Z370 Aorus...well over 300+fps...im an Intel fan so i say go Intel...
2019-03-23 13:37
Wait till May/June for Ryzen 3000.
2019-03-23 13:39
#49
Aleksib | 
Finland mvy 
dont go for ryzen, intel is the way
2019-03-23 13:49
#52
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Ukraine EarthAintFlat 
Of course if you want 300+ fps you should go with Intel. I5 8600k/9600k for the best performance/value or i7 8700k If you find a good price. In both scenarios you'd need to buy a good CPU cooler and of course a good motherboard(z370 chipset for 8th gen or z390 for 9th gen), because overclocking up to 4.9/5Ghz might be required to reach constant 300+ fps.
2019-03-23 13:58
ty for answer dude!
2019-03-23 14:45
#57
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
Depends of your budget Intel always beats ryzen at gaming, but only by 10-30fps depending of the game
2019-03-23 14:05
i dont know realy how much i can spend for it still thinkin
2019-03-23 14:44
#65
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Portugal NabasKi 
How much do you want to spend?
2019-03-23 14:19
#67
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United Kingdom Gawdddd 
i built a system for my friend with a ryzen 5 2600 and a gtx 1060 he gets 400fps average
2019-03-23 14:22
Ryzen is decent but let's don't talk bs. I have Ryzen 5 2600 @ 4 ghz, 16 gb @ 3466 CL14 RAM, RX580 8gb (which is a bit better than GTX1066) and my average fps is 250-300 I'd say (doesn't matter if I play with 800x600 or 1920x1080). And my PC is optimized af btw.
2019-03-23 14:50
I7 8086K for 5ghz single core which is the only thing this shit game can use 😎😎
2019-03-23 14:24
costs too much men im russian
2019-03-23 14:44
fugg 😎 then i dunno
2019-03-23 15:04
if you have Z mobo (z170/z270) - go for 6700k/7700k you will not see difference withj 8700k in csgo. Anyway gpu will bottnecking anywhere)
2019-03-23 14:27
i dont have z170/z270 (
2019-03-23 14:49
how about xeon 1650 + x79 mobo?
2019-03-23 19:36
Does it feat with cs go? i thought xeos`s made for hosting servers
2019-03-23 19:57
naaaah its same cpus as i5/i7 with ecc/reg support and lower freq (but you can OC it and get same performance as OCed i7 3930k) check youtube, theres alot of tests. The only thing if you go for this build - dont buy cheap china mobo (huanan or etc) buy good high-end mobo (asus, msi, etc)
2019-03-23 21:31
if you want the best bang for your buck so to say go with Ryzen. It is on par with 8700k and its way cheaper.
2019-03-23 14:31
Not on par if you play cs. Great cpus though still.
2019-03-23 15:29
yes i think i agree. youll get about 250fps with 8700k and about 210-220 with ryzen 2700x
2019-03-23 15:43
intel CPUs will give you more FPS in games. With Ryzen CPUs you can have more porn on the desktop without lag, while playing games take your pick.
2019-03-23 14:49
cs go 4 sure
2019-03-23 14:49
that depends on what you wanna do. Only gaming i should give you the advice to go for an Intel processor. Do you also wanna edit some shizzle and run more than just one heavy complication at the time ---> go for ryzen. their multitreathing in combination with a few more cores than just 2 or 4 this should be fine. if you are going for either an i7 of ryzen 7 you should always get +350 fps
2019-03-23 14:50
#87
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Brazil FeliperiN 
Ryzen 7 or Core i7-8700 will take it easy
2019-03-23 14:55
test
2019-03-23 15:11
worked
2019-03-23 15:12
#94
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Spain Crusher_91 
Wait for Ryzen 3 coming in a few months, you gonna have a R5 3600x with i9 9900k performance for like 250 € more or less
2019-03-23 15:19
#97
ZywOo | 
Germany MTD3 
+1
2019-03-23 15:23
I have the 9700k and i never go under 300 with an old gtx 770 2gb.
2019-03-23 15:22
#100
ZywOo | 
Germany MTD3 
Dude. Thats a sin right therelol
2019-03-23 15:23
It is a sin but i had a 4770k. Rather upgrade that than my gpu. I don't play other games as much. Mostly cs which is cpu intensive. Saving money for a new gpu though but it'll take time LUL!
2019-03-23 15:26
#104
ZywOo | 
Germany MTD3 
Makes sense. What would you go for? Rtx or gtx series?
2019-03-23 15:29
Don't know prob rtx 2060.
2019-03-23 15:39
4770k is actually quite decent when oc’d unlike gtx 770
2019-03-23 15:30
Needed a better cpu about video editing/ other things not just gaming.
2019-03-23 15:38
#113
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Sweden ThorinEk 
Its a good CPU So I cant see why you would want to change it. The potential performance gain you can get does not justify the cost
2019-03-23 15:51
Dont listen to anyone else, go with i7. Can't go wrong with it esp for cs.
2019-03-23 15:52
#117
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Japan hirohito 
if you have 6500, then you propably dont have a z-chipset, so you can upgrade to i7 6700 non-k. I would rather buy a very good ryzen board (crosshair VII hero has so overkill vrm that it's almost a sin to use it to anything but LN2) and the cheapest cpu, wait for ryzen3000 (july) and then upgrade. they'll be better than anything intel has to offer right now. if that's not possible for you, change the platform to z370/z390 and buy 8700k or 9700k their performance is pretty much the same (when overclocked to 5ghz, which is possible on both, until you're extremely unlucky and have bought a horrible sku), the 9700k runs cooler because of sTIM instead of 8700k's paste-based TIM, but you can delid 8700k while it's enormously more difficult with 9700k. it depends on what you'll be doing besides of playing csgo. If your workload is thread-dependent (for example editing vids), you'll benefit from 8700k's hyperthreading. If not, the extra 2 cores of 9700k will give you an edge of maybe 5 fps in the more demanding games
2019-03-23 16:04
I think an I7 - 8th gen should be enough. I have AMD 2700X and it works wonderfully.
2019-03-23 16:10
#122
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Finland M0FF3 
i5-9600k or i7-9700k, depends no your budget
2019-03-23 16:12
ryzen for games xDD dont do that
2019-03-23 16:14
10-15% less performance than Intel for the 40% less price. Why not?
2019-03-23 16:36
because u will have 300 fps instead of 400 D:
2019-03-24 18:11
#124
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Finland Headbangeri 
Wait for the Ryzen 3000 series and go for those, they will destroy intel in both performance and pricing.
2019-03-23 16:17
#139
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Germany scashxor 
Get a B450 Motherboard, Ryzen 5 2600X (or not x version if youre on budget) and 16 Gigs of cheap DDR4 3000ish RAM and youre fine
2019-03-23 16:30
> cheap DDR4 3000ish RAM Bad advice. Ryzen gets significant boosts from memory OC.
2019-03-23 16:33
what ever you do dont choose AtrashMD
2019-03-23 16:32
The newest ryzen is insane, i use it with gtx 1060 Weird combo but powerfull
2019-03-23 16:36
try engineering versions of Intel processors cheap solution for 300 fps just google QHQG (analogue of i7-6700(k)) prntscr.com/n1waas 4200 lucky, but 3.9-4.0ghz its ok for those CPUs 300+ fps with GF1066
2019-03-23 16:46
#148
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Poland Htcobakel 
Wait few months for Ryzen Zen 2. Atm it isn't worth.
2019-03-23 16:58
Wait for Zen2 (Ryzen 3)
2019-03-23 17:00
#163
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Germany NexTheGod 
ryzen 5 2600 or ryzen 7 2700x would be fine. I'd say go with the ryzen 5 or 8700k if you won't stream, depends on the budget
2019-03-23 19:37
ryzen is cheaper but i7 is way better
2019-03-23 20:02
#176
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Poland MaTHeOOO 
Put in rice
2019-03-24 17:35
If the only thing you do is gaming you should get intel for sure. i5 9600K would be perfect
2019-03-24 17:37
9700k , 8700k , Or Ryzen 2700x with 3400mhz ram but i not recomand but if u hav oportunity for second hand 7700k or 8600k its 300fps + too
2019-03-24 17:42
#181
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Bulgaria robotIZE 
i5 8600k for gaming i7 8700k if you want to stream and game
2019-03-24 17:48
#185
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Europe Jansuuu 
You have 300hz monitor? :D
2019-03-24 20:25
Wait for ZEN2 (Ryzen 3XXX) If you want to have great gaming pc, you need to upgrade you GPU too. If you need a workstation like rendering, and stuff, definitely go for ryzen.
2019-03-24 20:26
1st buy 240hz monitor
2019-03-24 20:27
#188
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France Serns20 
i7 8700
2019-03-25 00:53
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