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If we don't do something about Astralis dominance then CS will be dead soon (because it's boring as fuck and nobody likes Astralis). So what changes/updates do you want to happen to nerf them? I'd say bring back the old AWP so kennyS can be good again (fun to watch) and bring back the old spray so the gods of spraying like GTR/friberg can make magic happen again.
2019-03-24 13:31
bump
2019-03-24 20:49
#2
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France neibaf 
cry
2019-03-24 20:49
#4
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Denmark xieZ 
When you become too good you're the villian.. Damn I'm poetic
2019-03-24 20:50
Nobody hated NiP.
2019-03-24 21:06
#17
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Romania TheWizard741 
but a ton of people hated fnatic in 2015
2019-03-24 21:15
And you forgot why??
2019-03-24 21:16
#22
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Romania TheWizard741 
bcos they were very dominating like Astralis and NiP(the ones you said no one hated)
2019-03-24 21:17
fnatic were hated because of flusha aimlock clips and olofpass, and because JW was a toxic pi* who refused to handshake NiP and then screamed at them.
2019-03-24 21:19
coz fnatic had a lead in overtime and NiP said they didn't know they were playing for real already and it got restarted.
2019-03-24 23:22
If they knew they were better than NiP then just replay it and be cool about it.
2019-03-24 23:40
well if u have matchpoint on overtime and it gets restarted "coz other team didn't know u were playing for real already" and u can now lose 3 rounds instead of leading by 3 rounds,wouldn't u be mad? still not a right thing to do by fnatic,but it is not only their fault.
2019-03-24 23:42
Yeah they chose the win rather than support from fanbase it's their choice.
2019-03-24 23:43
People hated fnatic because they were dominant and if there was even a small reason to hate them people would start hating them
2019-03-25 11:42
#21
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France funKKush182 
Fnatic fans entered the chat
2019-03-24 21:17
Actually a decent chunk said the same thing about NiP as people are saying about Astralis right now. "If NiP keeps dominating it's going to kill the game, because there is no competition." Astralis isn't going to dominate until CS straight up dies, they will fall off at some point, just doesn't look like it will be any time soon.
2019-03-24 21:20
When NiP was winning everything, they didn't dominate like Astralis does now. They just pulled comebacks after comebacks and it was magical. Astralis just straight up plays boring CS and I've stopped caring CS as much because of them. I bet many people do too.
2019-03-24 21:32
#34
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India pongaman1 
Flag checks
2019-03-24 21:34
Astralis is playing CS correct (the closest to perfect we have come), how is that borring?
2019-03-24 21:37
It's boring if the players are not likeable.
2019-03-24 21:55
What? That makes no sense :P Likeable or not, that has nothing to do with their style of play.
2019-03-24 21:58
You find your entertainment from perfect CS but I prefer if the team winning is also likeable. I bet the average CS viewers also feel the same way.
2019-03-24 22:08
How would it make the game less boring if Astralis' players were likeable? They would still play the same style. I really don't see your point
2019-03-24 22:14
For example, if I'm a Liverpool fan and I don't like Man City (might be because of the jersey color or whatever) but they are dominating and play perfect football, do I have to like and watch them play too? Like I said it's not about the 'perfect play', it's also about watching the teams you like and if I don't like them then I can close the stream regardless of 'perfect play'. If many people have this mindset then CS will die fast. Last major had less viewers because of the expected Astralis dominance and they even got booed in this tourney too, as proof that they have many haters.
2019-03-24 22:29
That isn't the team being boring then. You are the boring one in that equation.
2019-03-24 23:16
Yeah and a lot of other people :D Astralis is killing CS that's fact.
2019-03-24 23:25
Who tf isn't likeable in Astralis? Literally all of them, except maybe Magisk are some of most humble people in the game.
2019-03-25 11:12
astralis play the best cs that's ever been played, it's brilliant to watch, if you think it's boring, you're just wrong.
2019-03-24 22:23
I wanna punch device's face and I don't like him winning. Who cares if they play good cs.
2019-03-24 22:30
they're the best team ever to touch the game, they deserve to win everything they have been.
2019-03-24 23:20
Like i said, you are the boring one. You are just another straight up hater.
2019-03-24 23:24
Device whining?When?
2019-03-24 23:24
#82
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
pathetic... why would you wanna punch him in the face?
2019-03-25 03:15
Says a lot about you.
2019-03-25 08:53
seems like u just hate astralis, nothing more to it
2019-03-25 11:34
Are you even a cs fan if you get bored of a team winning and claim it’s boring
2019-03-24 23:50
Poetic? Show me the poetry.
2019-03-25 03:18
#90
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Denmark xieZ 
nt virgin
2019-03-25 03:32
That's what you are. Another child in an ever lasting depression. You can't do nothing.
2019-03-25 03:33
#92
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Denmark xieZ 
Triggered no scener rofl angry coz lost major final xD you'll never win a major in your country
2019-03-25 05:17
Oh, it's much worse than I thought. Completely lost case or just very young yet. Maybe both.
2019-03-25 05:18
#95
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Denmark xieZ 
how triggered are you from 1-blyat ?
2019-03-25 05:25
#108
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Denmark TheWiseOwl 
how dumb are you from a scale from idiot-idiot?
2019-03-25 09:03
civil war i like it
2019-03-25 10:07
#124
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Denmark xieZ 
if i like rasmus paludan, does that make me a genius?
2019-03-25 14:56
#135
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Denmark TheWiseOwl 
oooooh sry didn't think that my scale had to go lower than idiot-idiot but i se now that the scale needs to be braindead-0iq :)
2019-03-26 08:14
#85
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Indonesia tjoeroed 
Too much watching anime
2019-03-25 03:23
#122
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Romania s0NYk 
oh yes
2019-03-25 11:43
#5
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North America gangnamstyle 
everyone like astralis and everyone on hltv want them to win everything 2019-2029
2019-03-24 20:50
#52
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El Salvador prolife 
yes +1
2019-03-24 22:38
How about the other teams just get their fucking shit together?
2019-03-24 20:57
#7
Sadokist | 
Myanmar xdcc 
what if we accidentally get a team better than astralis? then its that other boring team followed by boringstralis.
2019-03-24 20:58
The meta needs to change too, CS has become so gay. Add new weapon/map or bring back old AWP/spray.
2019-03-24 21:09
Retard spotted
2019-03-24 21:13
Astralis fangay?
2019-03-24 21:14
How has that to do with anything? The meta is just that if you as a team wants to win, you should get your fucking shit together and start taking this serious. THATS THE FUCKING META. But its hard to argue with someone thats a Kane fane, arguable the most stupid person in the scene together witn zeus
2019-03-24 21:20
It has become too tactical and that's pretty gay.
2019-03-24 21:21
Yeah, to hard for your two brain cells to understand.
2019-03-24 21:23
#116
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Denmark TheWiseOwl 
lol +1
2019-03-25 10:25
Wtf, the meta changed so many times since astralis started dominating. Dust2 was added, the AUG became beastly, a new economy system was brought up, tec9 and fiveseven were nerfed and thar buffed again, m4a1s was buffed and more
2019-03-25 11:19
#96
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Poland morosek 
+1 lazy cunts.
2019-03-25 05:31
Astralis being so dominant should make the other teams much motivated to bring them down. Imo cs go is not dying, its going to a higher level
2019-03-24 21:07
ASTRALIS GOAT
2019-03-24 21:07
Astralis is good for cs, they are the first professionally run team and it shows soon others will follow
2019-03-24 21:09
#94
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Brazil Mentecapto 
what do you mean with professionally run team? pls no swearing I'm dumb thanks
2019-03-25 05:21
They take a more professional aspect to things. Unlike teams that just practice for some time and enjoy some other stuff Astralis has a schedule and routine they follow most of the time. I’m not saying that Astralis doesn’t have fun or anything though.
2019-03-25 05:43
#98
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Indonesia Minuteman_3 
The players themself run/founded the team after they left TSM back in early 2016
2019-03-25 05:45
LOL maybe instead of nerfing astralis, the other team need to get good ? MiBR tought get taco back and get back to top1, instead got rekt on blast..
2019-03-24 21:12
#112
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Denmark Cleandog 
+1
2019-03-25 10:19
i dont think its boring at all to see other teams try to beat astralis. some day they will get there for sure. until that happens we should just enjoy watching the best team ever in their prime.
2019-03-24 21:15
#19
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Philippines laiff 
ban astralis from major ez
2019-03-24 21:17
And then the major would be a joke.
2019-03-24 23:56
#102
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Russia ultnie 
But it would be a fun joke. Sorry, I just had to make this pun.
2019-03-25 06:10
#113
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Denmark Cleandog 
lol and true
2019-03-25 10:20
#20
woxic | 
Turkey cemc_ 
you guys are so annoying. they deserve it all. working hard and that's the result
2019-03-24 21:17
Free brax.. Oh wait, murican orgs change players after losing in mm.
2019-03-24 21:19
iwasdontknowthisdetails.exe
2019-03-24 23:25
Teams just need to get their shit together, make roster moves that make sense for the team, and instead of swapping players every 2 months actually give their rosters a chance to gel together. Liquid will be able to take them down with more time, FaZe need to bring in an IGL because their lineup is going nowhere with NiKo leading, and Na'Vi can be very dangerous if they bring in a new young star to replace Edward and an IGL like ANGE1 if/when Zeus retires.
2019-03-24 21:20
#114
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Denmark Cleandog 
+1
2019-03-25 10:21
#29
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Romania TheWizard741 
I don't think Astralis are the problem here. They are the first truly professional org out there in CS.They care about their players and make sure they are as focused as they can be on the game. I think all the other teams just need to get their shit together and step the fuck up. After all Astralis didn't become number one by chance,they became number one by working harder than anyone else.There's nothing stopping Liquid or Navi or Mibr or any other team from working as hard as Astralis are. And maybe the orgs should learn some stuff from them as well.
2019-03-24 21:22
+1
2019-03-24 23:19
0/8
2019-03-24 21:26
Ez fix Allu needs redbull ENCE needs 2ez VIRTUS.PRO NEEDS BICEPS AND OTHER GUYS WHO EXPERIANCED IT KennyS needs Titan G2 needs scream and shox Brazil needs more football Cis needs more cyka s1mple Sweeden needs 87-0 NA needs skadady and free brax Csgo needs to fix radar, it was fixed for few days, now its fuced agin
2019-03-24 21:32
#36
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United Kingdom TC10 
Imagine changing a game because 1 team is too good at it
2019-03-24 21:41
lul awp was nerfed cuz of kennys , so nothing new.
2019-03-24 21:45
Denied LUL
2019-03-24 21:59
I swear people just want to watch a ESEA / DM game., dumbed down generation.
2019-03-24 21:41
we need to put lead in the gfuel so all the top30 teams get reduced IQ and play pugstyle 2014-2015 cs again
2019-03-24 23:26
+1 200iq move
2019-03-25 08:54
#39
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France Aalkhaan 
I just don't get why people do hate Astralis for being too good and don't hate the other teams to not step up their game. Come on man they are playing the same game you cannot nerf one team.
2019-03-24 21:45
+1
2019-03-24 21:57
Inb4 Valve goes to Astralis house and cuts the index finger of every player
2019-03-24 22:20
rip
2019-03-25 08:54
#53
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El Salvador prolife 
+1
2019-03-24 22:39
You cant nerf true greatness
2019-03-24 21:57
#46
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Denmark Xyq9x 
Go ahead
2019-03-24 22:12
We need old cobble back instead of nuke and it will be good nerf for Astralis.
2019-03-24 22:40
nuke wont go out. probably mirage or cache, most likely cache
2019-03-24 23:22
yeah i know but he asked what can we do to nerf danes so I did answer
2019-03-24 23:32
It won't matter. Astralis hardly get to play Nuke so removing it won't change anything and also why would Astralis not rock on Cobble if it is put back in the pool - they are the best at learning new things and everyone would have to get back on speed with the "new" map. What needs to happen is the other teams step it up.
2019-03-24 23:54
Wrong. They never play nuke yeah but guess why? Cobble was their permanent ban map so other teams like navi could easily exploit that. So it would definetly be a good nerf.
2019-03-25 03:10
That was a long time ago in CS time, since then Astralis has become a much more solid team and on an individual basis also - just note how often all five players are close on stats.
2019-03-25 18:47
Agree, but you can`t disagree either that my suggestion will nerf them anyway. Maybe not as much as all wanted but still.
2019-03-25 22:33
+1
2019-03-25 08:52
easiest nerf: Bring Kjaerbye back
2019-03-24 23:22
bring back HUNDEN (whom’st was the catalyst to their eleague atlanta 2017 major win)
2019-03-24 23:27
#115
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Denmark Cleandog 
lol
2019-03-25 10:24
#65
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Italy bennyhana 
To nerf astralis Valve must nerf nades
2019-03-24 23:25
#68
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Macedonia trashbait 
change map pool maybe
2019-03-24 23:28
the problem is, when cobble(their former permaban) comes back into the pool a map needs to be dropped. Unfortunately the rumors I've seen are that cache will be taken out of the pool, meaning that they just move the permaban to cobble. Realistically Valve would need to remove Inferno or nuke to make an impact, however both received recent reworks and most teams seem to like them (less so nuke, but I know a lot of teams like playing on it)
2019-03-25 18:47
i like astralis so next time speak for yourself /cose thread
2019-03-24 23:44
What is boring is there are like 100 threads like this. Instead of creating a new one just add to an existing one. Besides the idea of doing something to nerf Astralis is really stupid since what ever you do it will impact all teams, so since Astralis has more skill than the others guess what - it will just widen the gap. That is of course if you specifically target Astralis in which case you'll end up killing CS altogether since who want to look at competitions which aren't fair, anyone winning over Astralis in such a situation would be seen as unworthy and the whole game would be a joke.
2019-03-24 23:51
its really entertaining to see how far astralis can go and who can really challenge them. the only reason you call them boring is coz your fav team doesnt have a chance against them
2019-03-24 23:56
#79
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United States VKLBR 
Don’t worry. Astralis’ dominance will only make their defeat at a big event a big moment
2019-03-24 23:58
Yeah, there will be a legendary final against them soon.
2019-03-25 10:18
#astralisthebest
2019-03-25 00:00
I smell an underaged teenager without his own point of view. You're the boring one here, dumby.
2019-03-25 03:19
#86
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Ethiopia HungSolo 
Liquid>astralis next major
2019-03-25 03:26
#87
s1mple | 
Brazil afxsaw1 
They can make cs like League of legends, only Asians dominance on WC
2019-03-25 03:28
How to stop Astralis? Remove CSGO totally.
2019-03-25 03:31
no FNX no MAJOR
2019-03-25 03:31
#99
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Brazil tetanax 
+1
2019-03-25 05:49
#100
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Algeria abdodz45 
GTR is god of spray? kk
2019-03-25 05:53
Why do you hate astralis? They have best teamplay ever and every1 in team play really good. It's really TEAM WIN. Not 1-3 players win like it was NIP era, Fnatic era, SK era. Liquid have chance to win them soon, i'm sure. They did it in january
2019-03-25 05:59
#103
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United States Helmer 
sv_allow_astralis_utility 0
2019-03-25 06:12
sv_allow_astralis_utility 0
2019-03-25 10:09
#117
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
This is not as much just to "nerf Astralis" moreso make the game more interesting and bringing some new stuff into the mix again. - Old Coaching Rule, no limits placed on the coach. Would hugely benefit other teams. - Completely new mappool and bigger mappool. I would have liked this change ages ago. They should introduce more maps to the competitive pool as well as making it bigger so teams can do more with pick/ban phases. Teams could now be proficient in multiple maps and those wouldn't be banned out immediately. This would also bring some more varied BO3 series. I'm all for a seasonal map rotation where 2 new community voted maps rotate into the mappool for 3 months and then 2 community voted maps go out of the mappool. This would keep things fresh and interesting and would lessen the bitching on some maps like Nuke etc. Top tier pro players should also be allowed to vote and their vote should weigh as being 60-70% of the total votes. So in total maybe have 11 total maps in the pool, would be a decent number if I say so myself. And this could lead to the inclusion of for instance cpl_fire, tuscan, cpl_mill, season, aztec back into the competitive map pool.
2019-03-25 10:48
Agree for more maps
2019-03-25 18:26
#123
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Denmark ooe45 
Old awp was op imo but teams just needs to step their own game up. Otherwise, Astralis would just dominate for another year.
2019-03-25 11:46
Nah devs need to do something. Even in Dota when a team is dominating with certain strats/heroes, they will always nerf them after tournament.
2019-03-25 18:37
I think astralis teamwork is best of any team right now. They said that it's not only skill you are looking, but team dynamics. In youtube there is a good video of astralis saying that u play better when u workout, eat healty. I've been watching pro csgo since it came out and i haven't seen such team dynamics like astralis have.
2019-03-25 15:17
#127
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Uruguay zero`SAMA 
Devs need to man up, create some new maps and just go fresh from 0.. always same maps gets kinda boring, I don't really mind Astralis winning almost every tournament, they deserve it.
2019-03-25 18:30
#129
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Denmark dev111ce 
how much
2019-03-25 18:42
#130
SuNFiX | 
Switzerland DavLy 
Remove 7day ban
2019-03-25 18:44
#133
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Sweden Bangs 
Dont need to be nerfed, they will fall off/others will catch up eventually
2019-03-25 18:53
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