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3 good teams
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Canada Bucket0 
Is that all we have right now?
2019-03-25 04:21
#1
f0rest | 
Brazil flytwNiP 
we have a lot of good teams but ast is just too op to everyone
2019-03-25 04:22
#6
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Canada Bucket0 
If astralis didn't exist we would have 2 good teams
2019-03-25 04:27
#47
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
If astralis didn't exist we would have 2 mediocre teams
2019-03-25 08:01
#86
JaCkz | 
France Nairelav 
+1 Astralis is forcing other teams to be stronger
2019-03-25 17:30
#141
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
not really, astralis is just making fun of everyone else
2019-03-25 19:29
then only astalis is a good team, rest sucks dick, theres no contender for asstralis
2019-03-25 17:19
#2
HUMANS | 
Europe Men))) 
4. Ence too good team
2019-03-25 04:24
He didn't include Navi I assume
2019-03-25 04:26
#4
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Canada Bucket0 
Astralis ENCE Liquid I feel weird about counting NAVI I only see them getting worse
2019-03-25 04:27
They were good at the major tho
2019-03-25 04:33
#15
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Canada Bucket0 
Still lost to ENCE and would've lost to liquid they are good enough to beat faze but faze are utter garbage. The main reason I don't include them is their lack of wanting a roster change
2019-03-25 04:43
#30
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United States flyflit 
Yeah they aren't a great team but I wouldn't say they aren't good. They are still a good team. They have s1mple and electronic remember lmao. They're 1 roster move away from being a great team though.
2019-03-25 07:09
#61
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Canada Bucket0 
I'm judging the team as it is right now. Not good enough seemingly and no motivation for their igl!!
2019-03-25 17:15
#155
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United States flyflit 
I've been saying this for a minute. Cut Edward, get another skilled player or even just a better support (styko). S1mple, Electronic, and Flamie will play better. Give Zeus another chance for a few months. If that doesn't work, cut Zeus and try someone else.
2019-03-25 19:47
#156
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Canada Bucket0 
yesyesyes what you said is good but these navi guys are stubborn. I think they need to cut zeus first because I think he is holding onto shit pieces like Edward and Kane
2019-03-25 20:13
#43
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Finland Vkims 
Navi lose 2-1 to ence=navi is not good team Liquid lose 2-0 to ence=liquid is good team
2019-03-25 07:49
#65
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Canada Bucket0 
Yes because liquid was playing better before that point. And played pretty well at blast and tournaments earlier in 2019
2019-03-25 17:16
#81
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India AMKW 
They haven't won a single map against ence No reason for them picked before navi
2019-03-25 17:25
#88
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Canada Bucket0 
That is a shit reason. I can't believe how stupid you are and you probably won't respond after I destroy you. You're telling me that a map win over ENCE is more important than a map win over Astralis LMFAO just get out now
2019-03-25 17:32
#96
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India AMKW 
Lmao you talking about ibuypower event Astralis didn't even practice a bit for that shit event no one cares You destroying me hahaha go ahead
2019-03-25 17:37
#107
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Canada Bucket0 
They took a map off astralis in the last event so yeah I did destroy you dumbass
2019-03-25 17:42
#110
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India AMKW 
This thread was created months after they won the shit event no one cares And you are talking to me for the first time and still saying "I did destroy you" -69iq
2019-03-25 17:44
#114
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Canada Bucket0 
This thread was created after the blast event. I was only talking about Blast. you need mental help. The internet has made you go insane
2019-03-25 17:48
#115
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Canada Bucket0 
Blames me for using an event months ago even though I didn't and used stats for ESL one cologne . Dumbass logic get some help
2019-03-25 17:49
#116
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India AMKW 
Oh now you talk maps Gg boi If something goes liquid favour you talk maps good luck with that attitude otherwise the only place for you is "THE RANCH"
2019-03-25 17:49
#120
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Canada Bucket0 
You're so retarded wtf!!!!! I was only talking maps to disprove your point about maps against ENCE. My whole point is that the logic doesn't make sense. Please you are desperate need of mental health help
2019-03-25 17:51
#122
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India AMKW 
Not reading that again /Closed
2019-03-25 17:52
#128
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Canada Bucket0 
Makes sense considering you would probably straight kill yourself after being humiliated like that
2019-03-25 17:55
#150
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Finland Faifainei 
Bro, not cool, just let him be whatever he is. Liquid made a roster change and still managed to keep a good form, pretty impressive. Expecting them to play better and better. But NaVi is a good team. Its just a lot more inconsistent because they rely on few players to carry them unlike liquid, Astralis or even ence who maybe dont have OP player like s1mple but many really good players.
2019-03-25 19:38
#152
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Canada Bucket0 
if you got offended by that you are a pussy
2019-03-25 19:39
#154
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Finland Faifainei 
You were supposed to say sorry fakin fakeflagger bich why you bully me?
2019-03-25 19:46
#142
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United States TeasinTrio 
lmfao ur actually retarded, 1 match doesnt define whos better, omg big beat ast they are #1, nt no scener
2019-03-25 19:32
#60
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Russia zbogus 
I mean Navi choked against ence, and the series was pretty close
2019-03-25 17:15
#66
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Canada Bucket0 
Liquid choked way harder on map 2 tbh
2019-03-25 17:17
#71
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Russia zbogus 
12-6 to 12-12, don’t know man
2019-03-25 17:19
#109
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Canada Bucket0 
actually you're right I forgot how bad that Navi choke was they were both chokes tho
2019-03-25 17:43
#79
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India AMKW 
Look at the performance of liquid against ence and Navi against ence And realise what you are saying is not true Liquid haven't won a single map against them Navi destroyed them on D2 16-3 Liquid choked soo hard from. 4-12 to 12-12 Now please rethink :)
2019-03-25 17:23
#87
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Canada Bucket0 
You're a dumbass Scores don't mean shit just win or loss
2019-03-25 17:30
#100
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India AMKW 
You should kys you don't know this game Stop creating threads
2019-03-25 17:38
#111
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Canada Bucket0 
You are so angry it makes me so happy that you commented on my thread so many times
2019-03-25 17:44
#144
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United States TeasinTrio 
baiting or retarded, nt send boobs and vegana
2019-03-25 19:33
#148
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India AMKW 
To the ranch
2019-03-25 19:35
#75
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India AMKW 
Liquid was a failure at the major So it's better picking up navi before them In the blast pro Sao Paulo recently they were able to tie it with ence and not win So it's still a faliure not able to win a single map on them Navi destroyed them in D2 it's a better option than liquid rn
2019-03-25 17:20
#83
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Canada Bucket0 
Wow no They lost to the same fucking team lmao Liquid was performing better and wouldve beaten faze. ENCE is better than Navi and that's why they're so good against liquid Hilarious that you are the only person who actually picks Navi over liquid instead of ENCE
2019-03-25 17:28
#84
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Canada Bucket0 
Flair checks out fanboy
2019-03-25 17:29
#90
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India AMKW 
You should have looked at the scorecard before posting this Navi 16-0 ence last time they played before the major in ESL one Cologne In Katowice navi 2-1 ence (very close matches) Liquid 2-0 ence (liquid choked to death) 4-12 to 12-12 They haven't won a single "map" against ence So right now you can't conclude liquid > navi It's astralis , ence , navi the 3 best teams right now Let's wait for blast pro Miami and then you can conclude :)
2019-03-25 17:34
#104
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Canada Bucket0 
Wow you actually are such a fanboy you used stats for tournaments before ENCE was even close to good and before they were beating Liquid. But you aren't smart enough to understand why that doesn't make sense. Liquid can take astralis to map 3 but since they can't beat ENCE they are bad!!! Get out of here lol
2019-03-25 17:41
#106
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India AMKW 
Stopped reading at "wow" Cus I know you have started shitting more /Closed
2019-03-25 17:42
#112
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Canada Bucket0 
Pretends to not read it because my argument is better than a disabled navi fans bias dumbass views
2019-03-25 17:46
#113
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India AMKW 
Why are you gay
2019-03-25 17:47
#117
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Canada Bucket0 
Is this the part where you realize how wrong you were that you pretend to be baiting ?
2019-03-25 17:50
#119
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India AMKW 
You fell for the reply omegalul Hahahahah
2019-03-25 17:51
#121
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Canada Bucket0 
Proving my point like dumbasses always do
2019-03-25 17:52
#125
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India AMKW 
Yeah you are a dumbass XD I don't have to prove anything Keep Shitting Don't want to waste my time anymore cus I got work to do , not a jobless guy like you /Closed
2019-03-25 17:53
#131
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Canada Bucket0 
no I have a job I live in a developed country
2019-03-25 17:57
#145
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United States TeasinTrio 
hltv.org/matches/2331065/liquid-vs-natus.. AHHAHAHAHAHA NT, FORSAKEN LMFAOOO
2019-03-25 19:34
#146
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India AMKW 
Hello new guy Stfu and stop spamming Can't you read "/closed"
2019-03-25 19:35
#147
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United States TeasinTrio 
lmfao u only use /close because u scared to reply, nt forsaken
2019-03-25 19:35
#149
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India AMKW 
to the ranch Cus you are fucking poor and that's why you are iliterate
2019-03-25 19:37
#151
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United States TeasinTrio 
your actually so sad lmfao go outside and get a girlfriend without asking for boabs and vegana LMFAOOOO
2019-03-25 19:38
#97
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
Ence XD They are t 2 team Did you watch them online games?
2019-03-25 17:37
#105
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Canada Bucket0 
Online games don't mean shit 0/8
2019-03-25 17:42
#153
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
ahaha OK
2019-03-25 19:39
ENCE is the third team, Na'Vi is not a good team.
2019-03-25 04:27
#9
chrisJ | 
Brazil Kattulel 
S1mple + Friends is not a good team* yeah damn men i hope navi and other teams ((((WAKEUP))))
2019-03-25 04:31
That's what I meant. Na'Vi have good players but the team itself is bad.
2019-03-25 04:32
if only s1mple wasnt a baiter dont get me wrong, i know he's the best player in the world, but i think the fact the team plays TOOO MUCH over him kinda ruins the whole team work and thats why they never obtain success
2019-03-25 04:56
#44
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Finland Vkims 
HLTV experts are the best
2019-03-25 07:50
they rather drop awp 4 s1mple than going with a half buy, they did that a few rounds and pretty much s1mple was the first one to die, so uh pro strats
2019-03-25 14:12
No, usually Zeus/flamie drop AK/M4 to electronic/edward and s1mple goes with a deagle, if someone is a baiter and eco fragger on na’vi, it must be electronic. Nice try, tho
2019-03-25 17:13
i tried, thanks men))
2019-03-25 18:35
#63
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Russia zbogus 
Please check his entry frag stats and clutch stats before saying that
2019-03-25 17:16
#70
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Canada Bucket0 
Lol HLTV is a strange place
2019-03-25 17:19
#57
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
They need to replace somebody soon
2019-03-25 17:12
#69
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Canada Bucket0 
Sdy, chopper, angel just chilling but won't be picked up
2019-03-25 17:18
#82
ZywOo | 
Finland Sarumann 
Ange1 2019 OMEGALUL
2019-03-25 17:28
#89
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Canada Bucket0 
For Zeus not Edward Better fragger better strats
2019-03-25 17:33
0.87 rating checks out. And before you say about Zeus's 0.86 hes played against tier 1 opponents meanwhile ange1 plays tier 4
2019-03-25 18:12
#137
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Canada Bucket0 
I'm talking about the eye test of watching them play you can clearly tell angel is more skilled and Zeus is not actually a great caller imo
2019-03-25 19:12
#98
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
Ence t 2
2019-03-25 17:37
men))) i dont think so 😎😎😎
2019-03-25 07:34
#7
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United States Sora12359 
Yep lol Ence liquid and astralis.
2019-03-25 04:27
Navi = Ence
2019-03-25 04:28
#14
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Canada Bucket0 
One of them going uphill one of them going down
2019-03-25 04:41
dont dissrespect ence like this pls
2019-03-25 07:30
Should i link here last ence - navi game or you can find it? Result so close...
2019-03-25 07:31
DONT DISSRESPECT ENCE LIKE THIS PLS
2019-03-25 07:34
ok troll
2019-03-25 07:34
Thank You Mr.Evil32167
2019-03-25 07:36
define good i would consider any top 50 team good
2019-03-25 04:38
#13
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Canada Bucket0 
Tier 1 or 2 You know what I mean
2019-03-25 04:41
Including tier 2 there are way more then 3 teams Astralis Navi Liquid Ence Rng Nrg North Windigo (i hope so soon) Etc etc
2019-03-25 05:13
#22
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Canada Bucket0 
Wow no
2019-03-25 05:18
Astralis Liquid Ence and maybe Navi tier 1. Other teams tier2. Too big difference in skill/teamplay/tactics between them and Faze/Mibr/NIP etc...
2019-03-25 04:46
#23
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Canada Bucket0 
It's upsetting
2019-03-25 05:18
#31
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Cyprus FujinWoW 
Only Astralis is t1 Ence, liquid, navi t2 Other are t3 and below
2019-03-25 07:11
lol no) Liquid and Ence play really nice too. Liquid even won vs Astralis in january in grand final, they could win them last time also.
2019-03-25 07:13
#58
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Canada Bucket0 
It depends on what you count as t1
2019-03-25 17:13
#17
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United States kearCS 
Maybe Renegades too, but we haven't seem them play since the major, so not sure about that one yet.
2019-03-25 04:48
#24
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Canada Bucket0 
Getting better for sure but not good enough :(
2019-03-25 05:18
#19
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Pakistan XtraticX 
1. Astralis 2. Ence 3. Liquid If simp1e left his team, na'vi would be like faze or mibr
2019-03-25 05:02
#25
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Canada Bucket0 
Liquid is better than ENCE I bet you thought Navi was better than astralis when they won cologne
2019-03-25 05:19
#27
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Katowice major final Astralis vs Ence that is why they are top 2. Navi WAS better than astralis but not now. Navi only consistent players simp1e and electronic.
2019-03-25 05:25
#45
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Finland Vkims 
Hard to justify liquid over ence when liquid hasnt won a single map against them
2019-03-25 07:50
#53
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Canada Bucket0 
Flag checks out
2019-03-25 17:11
#55
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Finland Vkims 
my flag doesnt change facts :) also flag checks out
2019-03-25 17:11
#76
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Canada Bucket0 
Navi was better than liquid a while ago but liquid always beat them. Matchups don't mean everything, ENCE might be better in the future but too early to say right now
2019-03-25 17:21
but simple don't want leave Navi. Navi can be fixed soon
2019-03-25 07:02
#50
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Cause navi is Ukrainian best team. He can't get better
2019-03-25 09:37
#68
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Russia zbogus 
List of people Navi can add: Boomb4 Norbert Sdy Jame Qikert Buster Idisbalance
2019-03-25 17:18
#77
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Canada Bucket0 
But they are too stupid
2019-03-25 17:22
#93
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Navi current lineup is better than this
2019-03-25 17:35
#101
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Russia zbogus 
nope
2019-03-25 17:38
#54
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Canada Bucket0 
They don't want to change roster
2019-03-25 17:11
#42
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Denmark oskarsports 
If s1mple leaves Na'Vi they would be like NoChance
2019-03-25 07:44
#51
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Pakistan XtraticX 
Haha
2019-03-25 09:39
*Uruguay
2019-03-25 17:16
#102
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
Faze> Ence Navi > Ence
2019-03-25 17:38
#136
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Pakistan XtraticX 
If s1mple join faze instead of olof it would be best lineup against astralis
2019-03-25 18:35
1. Astralis 2. VP 3. Izako Boars
2019-03-25 05:05
#26
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Canada Bucket0 
4. Runtime.gg
2019-03-25 05:19
#49
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Russia QibyVGZEN 
1. FANTIK 2. SPITIT 3. VEGA 4. 3DMAX 5. NASRALIS 6. DEBILS.ONE 7. PRO100 8. EHOME 9.HR 10. RUNTIME.GG
2019-03-25 08:08
4. Codewise Unicorns
2019-03-25 07:04
4. Devils.one
2019-03-25 07:27
lal they are better than vp and izako together
2019-03-25 07:27
Nope
2019-03-25 07:39
#46
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Denmark M0rtalSavage 
Its not like that the other top teams are bad. Its just that Ence and TL are the only ones who capable of catching up to the level of Astralis right now. The others are playing like its still 2014 or something, they dont understand that CS go is at a whole level now when it comes to preperation etc.
2019-03-25 08:00
#56
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Canada Bucket0 
Obviously I don't think they're bad. Just not good enough for today's top teams
2019-03-25 17:12
#48
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Russia QibyVGZEN 
ok real top 10 (25.03.19) 1. FANTIK 2. SPITIT 3. VEGA 4. 3DMAX 5. NASRALIS 6. DEBILS.ONE 7. PRO100 8. EHOME 9. HR 10. RUNTIME.GG
2019-03-25 08:09
#64
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North America ye1337 
astralis liquid ence navi renegades
2019-03-25 17:16
#73
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Canada Bucket0 
Let's wait and see how Renegades does in more events
2019-03-25 17:19
Spirit will win a major in 2020 xdd
2019-03-25 17:17
#74
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Canada Bucket0 
In the finals against runtime.gg
2019-03-25 17:20
#78
Davidp | 
Sweden meistr0 
Yes. MiBR, NaVi & Liquid.
2019-03-25 17:23
#99
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Canada Bucket0 
Yes very intelligent HLTV user right here thank you my Swedish friend
2019-03-25 17:37
Astralis garbage.
2019-03-25 18:27
#139
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Canada Bucket0 
Truth
2019-03-25 19:13
+1
2019-03-25 19:16
It isn't so great rn but I am quietly hopeful for next few months. I would personally say Astralis, liquid, na'vi, ence seem decent enough at this current time. Anyway seems new challengers might be coming up, I do have feeling that just maybe G2 can finally break out from being joke and teams like windigo and furia might be up to challenge for top 10 also. Then we got Renegades, Vitality and mouz, NRG too who have some potential for sure, NIP is another ok team I guess just not sure if they would that easily show something great consistently. Besides that ofc we have struggling teams and ur usual Avangar's, North's, Optic's and Valiance's lurking around sometimes playing pretty well (optic new lineup soon I guess??), would expect at least some of these struggling teams get their shit together, MIBR just had decent major then horrible times, maybe they aren't totally lost cause though.
2019-03-25 17:35
#92
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Canada Bucket0 
G2 sucks Windigo sucks Furia sucks Vitality sucks North sucks Optic sucks MIBR sucks
2019-03-25 17:35
ENCE, Liquid, Astralis
2019-03-25 17:30
#94
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Canada Bucket0 
I'm glad you put Astralis last my Brazilian brother
2019-03-25 17:36
it wasnt supposed to be in order
2019-03-25 18:19
#138
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Canada Bucket0 
No I just meant I'm glad the other teams came to your mind first :)
2019-03-25 19:13
#91
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Asia MiloShapiro 
Navi liquid ence astralis, mouz has crazy potential and mibr is decent, terrible considering the players they have
2019-03-25 17:34
#95
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Canada Bucket0 
Wow you actually put Mouz here while having barely played at all and MIBR after that cringefest of an event. Navi is the only debatable one and I still disagree
2019-03-25 17:36
#103
Aleksib | 
United Kingdom yola_ 
ence liquid astralis and navi when simple goes insane
2019-03-25 17:38
#123
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Canada Bucket0 
Yes but not always Navi so I didn't include them
2019-03-25 17:52
still better than there just being one good team 🤩
2019-03-25 17:43
#126
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Canada Bucket0 
Fair enough
2019-03-25 17:54
1. VIRIMA (won ence) 2. ENCE 3. Izako Boars 4. Astralis (not top1 anymore because device did throw bad flashbang)
2019-03-25 17:53
#127
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Canada Bucket0 
Damn I forgot Can you forgive me??
2019-03-25 17:54
yes i can men 😎😎😎
2019-03-25 17:55
#130
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Canada Bucket0 
Thank you men 😎😎😎
2019-03-25 17:56
The whole scene right now is a disaster.
2019-03-25 19:33
yeah, no. for example, it wasnt fun when fnatic was dominating, so everyone hated them because they were so good. its a lot better now
2019-03-25 20:43
yeah, no. when fnatic was dominating we also had VP, TSM, envy, Titan also Fnatic unlike asstralis was able to lose games. What do we have now except for asstralis and liquid? Nothing, Ence playing good only to lose to izako boars in the next game, swedish, polish and french scenes trash, international teams trash.
2019-03-25 20:50
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