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Device GOAT 100%
autist | 
CIS bjornzz 
It's not possible to argue with that anymore. 1.17 All Time rating Best player in the greatest team of all time Most prize money won 3 times Major champion 13 MVPs awarded by HLTV, 1 Major MVP Top 3 2015 Top 3 2016 Top 5 2017 Top 2 2018
2019-03-25 08:54
#1
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Denmark Almoe 
also really good player in 2014 but dignitas didnt win enough for him to get into the top 20
2019-03-25 08:55
he was 20 in 2014
2019-03-25 08:57
#7
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Denmark Almoe 
ah ye my bad
2019-03-25 08:57
the only time he wasnt in top 20 is in 2013 where he came into the scene late 2013
2019-03-25 09:57
He was already a good player in 2013, but he didnt play enough to make it to top 20. :)
2019-03-25 13:07
#103
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African Union fgxnNn 
Just like s1mple now... With these bot he will never come close to d1v's winnings in term of tournaments
2019-03-25 15:46
#106
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Denmark Almoe 
yeah, but its still hopefully clear for everyone that s1mple is a better player than anyone, despite device winning most tournaments + mvps
2019-03-25 16:35
#107
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African Union fgxnNn 
100% +1
2019-03-25 17:23
+1 for being danish hltv user and not being a cuck
2019-03-25 22:34
#2
God | 
Poland henlo 
baa
2019-03-25 08:55
Well being the most consistent doesn’t make you the best. I agree he is a great player and one of the most iconic in CSGO but in my opinion we won’t know the true GOAT until the game ends.
2019-03-25 08:56
#6
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Denmark Almoe 
+1 csgo is too young to have a clear GOAT, for me its between: simple, niko and device - maybe olof
2019-03-25 08:57
you cant put niko ahead of flusha gtr or guardian
2019-03-25 08:59
#11
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Denmark Almoe 
well those players are only getting worse and worse with every year passing by, maybe now you cant but soon he will eclipse them
2019-03-25 09:02
Flusha has proved himself for many times that he can play great in tier 1
2019-03-25 09:04
#48
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Switzerland mauricee 
flusha is still one of the best players nowadays lol
2019-03-25 10:27
"flusha was the problem" - Fnatic 2018
2019-03-25 10:37
#66
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Switzerland mauricee 
1. that was never stated 2. flusha left himself 3. he never was a problem
2019-03-25 11:24
do you really believe #2? lol
2019-03-25 11:42
I double checked and your post is surprisingly from 2019... Flusha is not one of the best and hasn't been since he stopped "lifting his mouse" and stopped having weird aimlocks through walls every single game. He's a good player, but nothing more than that. He's not even on the HLTV player top 20.
2019-03-25 13:57
#104
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African Union fgxnNn 
Unfortunately not the beast he was during his mouse lifting period ;)
2019-03-25 15:47
#14
autist | 
CIS bjornzz 
Niko instead of coldzera? 0/8
2019-03-25 09:07
#15
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Denmark Almoe 
all coldzera has done was farm ratings playing the easiest role in the game in one of the best teams, he shouldnt even be mentioned plus he has only been playing for like 3 years
2019-03-25 09:17
#20
autist | 
CIS bjornzz 
Still 2 times top 1
2019-03-25 09:29
#27
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Denmark Almoe 
meaningless considering the context, you probably didnt watch cs back then but he is no way a goat candidate :)
2019-03-25 09:38
He's more than a great candidate. He was the most consistent in his time, won the most and topped HLTV two times in a row. He's miles ahead of NiKo.
2019-03-25 10:28
#54
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Denmark Almoe 
yes if your criteria for being a great individual is winning tournaments, if level of play is your criteria he is not even close
2019-03-25 10:39
I mean exactly that, he's a great player, just like device, he's an unit, not a single figure like NiKo or s1mple. He's a great mate, he might be weaker than NiKo but he's more consistent and always positive, never drops whether it's a final or a group stage. NiKo doesn't have, cold is greater.
2019-03-25 10:41
#64
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Denmark Almoe 
yeah its the same with the MJ vs lebron argument. Of course team accomplishments should play a factor for judging greatness, since its the ultimate goal of playing. But in my GOAT criteria it doesnt play as big of a role as the avg person apparently. like s1mples several mvps at lost events is something very few players can achieve, and if i remember correctly nobody else has
2019-03-25 11:19
I have the same point on it, I don't really care about achievements if we talk about the PLAYERS, not teams but cold is always positive, he never "chokes", he always delivers no matter what. The most visible difference between them is that NiKo can always do the flashy plays and earn himself a couple of highlights but coldzera is more of a passive player, he plays for accuracy. And his consistency, without being that great individually is only going to show how smart he is and that's why I've put him there.
2019-03-25 12:56
#82
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Denmark Almoe 
+1
2019-03-25 13:42
Ez to be consistent when u bait TACO
2019-03-25 17:28
Come on, you can't be serious.
2019-03-27 12:31
#114
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United Arab Emirates R4SH4SH 
Finally, someone said it, Cold plays with his brain, not with his aim, unlike Niko.
2019-03-25 22:33
You always used to agree with me. Great to know there's a soulmate of yours.
2019-03-27 12:31
#77
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Europe Liquid_fan 
so u mean device isn't playing the easiest role? gtfo
2019-03-25 13:16
#83
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Denmark Almoe 
he only has twice the opening duels as coldzera, but yes he probably plays one of the easiest roles on his team
2019-03-25 13:43
#18
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Singapore FAZELUL 
Coldzera LUL 2-7 Never Forget
2019-03-25 09:28
no getright? newfag
2019-03-25 15:40
He has been misssing for half of csgo
2019-03-25 19:02
I don't think we're at a point in CS:GO where we can call anyone the goat
2019-03-25 08:56
#21
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Denmark how_much_ 
+1
2019-03-25 09:30
+1
2019-03-25 09:33
I see GOAT in two ways If you wanna talk about top players and their amount of titles overall ranks and MVP's device is clear GOAT in CSGO now But is he the BEST player ? Nope that is S1mple by far he have been playing for bad teams but make them good by himself almost , Liquid HR FS Na'Vi even then he has HLTV #1 2018 ( Most dominant #1 ) Best rating at big events in the game at 1.23 First player to get 1000+ K/D in 1 year First player to win 2 MVP's without winning the event device will probably get #1 this year aswell because Astralis is not going anywhere anytime soon and Na'Vi is way worse now because electronic is playing trash now aswell so S1mple will probably not win much or even anything in 2019 so all he can keep up is his stats but will not be good enough to get #1 again even tho in reality he is better than device , i hope he gets a new team soon with overall better players to they can put up a fight against Astralis/Liquid
2019-03-25 09:10
#19
autist | 
CIS bjornzz 
flag checks out
2019-03-25 09:28
#22
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Finland trashsports 
Expected from s1mple fangirl, go away pls
2019-03-25 09:32
He is right imo. Best player is s1mple. Impressive stats But i personally see that device is a more better player to have in a team than s1mple tho
2019-03-25 09:37
#28
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Finland trashsports 
No, s1mple should win atleast 1 major to become CANDIDATE for GOAT status
2019-03-25 09:39
I see device > s1mple. But s1mple is the better skilled one at aim
2019-03-25 09:55
#41
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Finland trashsports 
Yes, he is better than device, but still isn’t GOAT
2019-03-25 09:56
Yeah i agree. Cold, gtr > s1mple too. After this year probably not, idk how navi performs
2019-03-25 10:26
#105
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African Union fgxnNn 
Absolutely bro! Ppl tend to associate large trophies count with GOAT status :/ S1mple has truly scary numbers, i seriously doubt d1vve or any1 else will come near it any time soon
2019-03-25 15:54
Consistency doesnt make you greatest of all time. The most consistent of all time, yes, i'd definitely agree on that. but he's not up for the GOAT title just yet.
2019-03-25 09:01
Who is the GOAT then?
2019-03-25 09:47
Patrik "f0rest" Lindberg (born June 10, 1988) is a Swedish professional gamer, who is known for his long-standing superior performance in the competitive Counter-Strike scene. Having played competitively since 2005, Lindberg, going by the pseudonym of "f0rest", has widely gained a reputation within the electronic sports scene as one of the best-performing Counter-Strike players in the world
2019-03-25 14:01
In the whole of CS yes, but in GO it's debatable to say the least.
2019-03-25 14:05
#126
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Chile StfanoLELE 
+1 Whole cs for sure, what is impressive is that he has never been bad, nowadays he is still delivering, we can't say the same about NEO eg
2019-03-26 00:52
Are you from the mainstream media? Cause all you did was grab the least important part of what I said and span it into a narrative that pushes your agenda. This topic is NOT about f0rest.
2019-03-26 06:52
Xyp has won more money. But yes, devve is the GOAT
2019-03-25 09:06
+1 True that Xyp9x is the player who has won the most prize money in CS:GO.
2019-03-25 09:17
#17
autist | 
CIS bjornzz 
Doesn't matter, they all won roughly the same amount
2019-03-25 09:17
No way, he gets set up way too much by his team to be considered the GOAT. Just like coldzera his stats are really inflated. He also is too passive, he needs a team to perform, he isn’t a playmaker. Excellent player and the perfect fit for Astralis, but not the best player overall.
2019-03-25 09:35
You could talk like that with every player tho. Even s1mple
2019-03-25 09:38
??? s1mple doesnt need a team t perform and he has provne that over and over again rofl
2019-03-25 15:37
if device gets "set up" by his teammates, than navi even more for s1mple since they are bots who also set him up. thats what I tried to say. I dont believe in any of that. no one gets "set up", not s1mple not device
2019-03-25 22:23
+1
2019-03-25 09:50
#56
gla1ve | 
Europe catre 
Device was a greate player before Astralis rule the world. Remember the time he push the TSM to become top 3 team in 2015
2019-03-25 10:46
I will say this was true in the older lineups but in this one (with Glav1e & Magisk) no one is "set up", they all play defined roles and all play them extremely well, Device doesn't bait, no one is setting him up for frags, he plays his spots and is 1 piece of Astralis. Astralis doesn't even have a "star" player, they are focused on the team not themselves that's why a team with 2 top 5 players (skill wise) can't even get 10 rounds off them.
2019-03-25 22:36
Everybody gets set up by their team dude they are playing vs pros not silver mm where you can solo ace every round
2019-03-25 22:39
Device is relying on his team too much. S1mple is a playmaker / carry who can perform in ANY TEAM like a God. Also 1.17 rating all-time is not that impressive, S1mple got 1.23 rating all time (top1). S1mple > device
2019-03-25 09:51
#32
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Finland trashsports 
Still s1mple isn’t GOAT
2019-03-25 09:51
But more than half of spectators think he is...
2019-03-25 09:51
#34
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Finland trashsports 
He should win atleast 1 major to become candidate for GOAT status
2019-03-25 09:52
Major is insanely overrated shit. It's the same tournament like others, just hosted by Valve. There are almost same priced events except Major. And s1mple was Grand Finalist of MANY Majors actually. And S1mple was rated as best player on Majors which his team lost.
2019-03-25 09:54
+1 Majors aren't harder events than events like EPL.
2019-03-25 14:08
When he can keep up his Performance this year too, than I agree, but I still see device as the top contendor. Just cant see s1mple playing 1 good year Instant goat
2019-03-25 09:54
He is being GOAT since 2014-2015, but he was not top1 JUST because his teams were crappy compared to top3 teams. Let's be honest. When coldzera won #1 spot most of people thought that S1mple could take it even tho his team was much worse than SK in their prime.
2019-03-25 09:55
Haha Playing good in Tier 3 cs in hellraisers and flipside doesnt make him goat sorry man. The only good Performances from s1mple is 2016 to 2018. Before that he wasnt even tier1,2 When cold was #1 people aknowledged niko and not s1mple.
2019-03-25 10:18
#51
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Finland trashsports 
+1
2019-03-25 10:34
0/8 you seem to have a memory of fish
2019-03-25 11:20
No he was quite good but hellraisers and flipside werent good at that time
2019-03-25 14:42
Thats the point, they still went up against good teams and s1mple till went monster numbers.
2019-03-25 15:38
#35
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Morocco de_cpl_mill 
Nice bait
2019-03-25 09:53
Biggie Goat lmao what where you thinking your flair certainly checks out
2019-03-25 09:53
i would rather have a russian 14 years old anime kid as an awper in my team instead of 0 skill ecovice
2019-03-25 10:21
If simple was awper for astralis as danish, he wouldnt be better than device tbh
2019-03-25 10:24
He rising cause edward and zeus are bot so device is the true #1
2019-03-25 10:25
xaxaxa another delusional device fanboy
2019-03-25 12:59
i prefer s1mple to device and you name yoursel device_is_overrated but we cant change the truth sry
2019-03-25 13:04
Saying "s1mple is rising cause edward and zeus are so bot so device is the true #1" is delusional sorry to say /close
2019-03-25 13:04
we just need some hiko imo
2019-03-25 13:06
twitch.tv/blastproseries_c/clip/VainDull.. and if simple did that on lan probably there would be many graffiti threads
2019-03-25 13:25
Xaxaxaxaxax two exit kills when you're winning 9-3? Device fanboy confirmed.
2019-03-25 13:30
I mean dosia got a graffiti/sign cuz he killed 2 in the after plant, while saving tho
2019-03-25 14:44
Different context. That was important, the game was close and immortals were on ct side(worse economy). These device kills werent. They were nice but nothing game changing. Plus it wasn't a major.
2019-03-25 15:46
ofc its not a major, I just wanted to say that this COULD also have a graffifti, also immortals were on the t-side and was not even close it was like 9-1 ^^
2019-03-25 22:25
Yea sorry it was t side. But every round was close go check the demo. They won that round but was in a shit state money wise next round. It mattered more.
2019-03-25 23:11
Get your facts checked, holy shit you're stupid.
2019-03-25 22:44
expected from your username /close
2019-03-25 23:10
your username is even more shit dude.
2019-03-25 23:12
Because you hate facts?
2019-03-26 00:46
" Different context. That was important, the game was close and immortals were on ct side(worse economy). These device kills werent. " yeah cuz you like "facts"
2019-03-26 00:51
So you're saying the game wasn't close? Comparing major final to bo1 blast game GIGALUL
2019-03-26 05:27
#123
2019-03-26 16:07
Great argument and this proves you didnt even watch the final. Fast /close
2019-03-26 17:29
you said this exit kills didnt mean anything from device because they are winning 9-3 but dosias nade is more important while winning 9-1 both teams ( immortals and nip ) could buy, but still these exit frags took down an AK and an awp for nip. youre argument isnt there dude. its almost the same scenario. I'm not saying that this could deserve a graffiti if it was played on a major or not. just saying your arguments are bullshit for this and you said completely wrong things and you stated them like a fact. Edited a : "said" in the last sentence"
2019-03-26 18:03
It's not the same scenario dude. You are comparing grand final of a major with a bo1 map of a blast pro series tournament. I already said device's kills were nice but nothing big.
2019-03-26 20:12
I talked about that it COULD get a graffiti, IF its in a major and, its the same scenario. device and dosia kill 2 people, to bring the money lower for the opponent. its afterplant, both matches were pretty 9-3 and 9-1, almost the same.
2019-03-26 23:00
But it wasn't a major. You make it seem like people underrate Device when it's the opposite they overrate the shit out of him because of his stats.
2019-03-26 23:06
haha ok just told you that this 2k COULD make graffiti since d2 hasnt one yet. nohing else man. I only see people talking about ecovice, I think people underrate him a lot. he gets the entrys for the team, and is a solid passive awper, idk why people hate against him, but astralis is well hated in this community ( without a solid reason imo except that they are good)
2019-03-26 23:12
Calling someone overrated =/= he is shit. My point is that you cant compare Device to S1mple and Niko. He is just a solid player nothing special.
2019-03-26 23:37
/open Everything you wrote was wrong though and you stated them like it's fact holy shit you're deluded. /close.
2019-03-25 23:12
s1mple might be the best atm. device is the GOAT. it's that simple.
2019-03-26 20:20
watch this if you havent. youtube.com/watch?v=goaP8yjeFzs nice story abouth device and astralis
2019-03-25 10:31
No
2019-03-25 10:37
GOAT of cs is GtR or Neo
2019-03-25 10:50
+1
2019-03-25 10:54
GOAT of csgo should not be the most consistent of all time, GOAT should be the one who has had the highest peak preformance of all time, best compared to everyone else on the scene for a while. And that would have to be either GeT_RiGhT 2012-2014 or s1mple during 2018
2019-03-25 10:58
Greates of ALL time Not 2018 only..
2019-03-25 14:45
Well, you got to look at the peak, who has the highest ever peak
2019-03-25 14:58
by ur logic ronaldinho>messi and ronaldo
2019-03-25 22:28
thats not how it works...highest peak is highest peak but being the GOAT isnt only about that...
2019-03-26 20:23
Money isnt a factor in this, like winning 1 tournament now = same money as winning 10 tournaments a couple of years ago. It’s like saying Alexis sanchez is the best player in PL because he earns the most money ... I agree with what you wrote though, but the fact that he’s never been the best in the world makes it hard for me to see him as the GOAT. And on top of that noone can’t really tell i think.
2019-03-25 11:03
#61
flusha | 
Germany J0hnnyB 
100% agree but in a few years s1mple will become the GOAT. His peek is simply way better. And in all the other sports peek + consistency matter and s1mple got both. S1mple is 2 years younger. Go back 2 years and noone would even think device would be a top 5 goat contender. So s1mple has a lot of time to prove himself and I'm confident he will.
2019-03-25 11:06
I dont think the age is playing a factor here
2019-03-25 14:46
#62
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
I don't know if anyone will read this but I don't up till now we have a proper GOAT of cs'GO'. People either side with players like cold who had a mad peak and won 2 majors while placing no.1 on HLTV, or consistent players who have barely dropped off since they entered the scene but haven't won as much (e.g. GuardiaN). People can say all they want about dev1ce, but he's a good candidate. Consistently placing in HLTV rankings and has a record 3majors under his belt with 1 major MVP (not to mention the countless other trophies won). People call him "ecov1ce", but that's a bit of an overstatement. The fact that people only call him this AFTER Astralis start dominating obviously shows they're just trying to bring them down in any way possible, since their team can't put up a fight. However, it's a bit odd to label someone who's never been the best player in the world, the best player of all time. Therefore I don't think we should be rushing to make such a decision, especially when we don't exactly have a distinct candidate. Honestly, I can't sat on f0rest and GTR because I didn't follow the game back when it launched, but tbh I think we have to take into account many pros around that time were still trying to find a foothold in the game, and truthfully it was relatively easier to play against teams than it is now If you think differently, I don't really care, but don't get triggered :)
2019-03-25 11:11
#62
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
I don't know if anyone will read this but I don't up till now we have a proper GOAT of cs'GO'. People either side with players like cold who had a mad peak and won 2 majors while placing no.1 on HLTV, or consistent players who have barely dropped off since they entered the scene but haven't won as much (e.g. GuardiaN). People can say all they want about dev1ce, but he's a good candidate. Consistently placing in HLTV rankings and has a record 3majors under his belt with 1 major MVP (not to mention the countless other trophies won). People call him "ecov1ce", but that's a bit of an overstatement. The fact that people only call him this AFTER Astralis start dominating obviously shows they're just trying to bring them down in any way possible, since their team can't put up a fight. However, it's a bit odd to label someone who's never been the best player in the world, the best player of all time. Therefore I don't think we should be rushing to make such a decision, especially when we don't exactly have a distinct candidate. Honestly, I can't sat on f0rest and GTR because I didn't follow the game back when it launched, but tbh I think we have to take into account many pros around that time were still trying to find a foothold in the game, and truthfully it was relatively easier to play against teams than it is now If you think differently, I don't really care, but don't get triggered :)
2019-03-25 11:11
People have been calling device "ecovice" for a long time wtf you on about
2019-03-25 11:43
not really. no one called him ecovice before astralis, just like no one called coldzera baitzera before a couple of years
2019-03-25 13:50
Delusional stat whores strike again. Nice!
2019-03-25 12:58
#76
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Russia QibyVGZEN 
shox GOAT? 2013 - top 3 2014 - top 8 2015 - top 13 2016 - top 6 2019 - top 1
2019-03-25 13:13
shox top 101 in 2019? ruskibrain
2019-03-25 14:52
#94
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Russia QibyVGZEN 
Top 1 is coming
2019-03-25 14:53
Shox is a joke
2019-03-25 19:03
#78
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Russia QibyVGZEN 
JW - x1 major mvp, x3 major winner, x4 major finalist, 1.07 rating of all time, 3 MVP awarded, JW is GOAT?
2019-03-25 13:16
#79
autist | 
CIS bjornzz 
mad s1mple fan? 3 Major = 3 Major 1.17 >>> 1.07 13 MVPs >>> 3 MVPs
2019-03-25 13:18
he is not skillfull enough to be the GOAT
2019-03-25 15:39
#100
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Serbia whoa!! 
agreed
2019-03-25 15:41
GOAT for sure
2019-03-25 15:45
He is the GOAT 100% but s1mple has better stats which means literally nothing.
2019-03-25 22:40
top 1 = 0
2019-03-26 00:53
Yes device is goat, s0mple isn't even top 5
2019-03-26 17:35
so true s1mple might be the best atm. device is the GOAT. it's that simple.
2019-03-26 20:19
How can player be the GOAT if he not even top 4 player skillwise? Sure, he is pretty good player, but not even close to s1mple, niko, cold (peak) olof (peak) Winning every event and be a little bit better than ur teammates doesn't make u GOAT and even just a best player at all. device looks pathetic compare to the 4 gods of CS:GO history.
2019-03-26 20:32
>Niko >gods of CSGO History LOL I CAN'T
2019-03-26 23:09
>olof >god of CSGO history OMEGALUL 😂😂😂
2019-04-01 04:57
#142
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
No top 1
2019-03-26 23:11
#144
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Brazil spaark1 
I think is safe to say that he's at least a top5 player of all time (cs go). imo he's top 3.
2019-03-26 23:15
Legend but not goat
2019-03-27 12:35
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