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sergej | 
Finland santedek 
Are they Top 5 team, top 3 team or top 2 team?
2019-03-25 09:59
Top4
2019-03-25 10:00
#4
sergej | 
Finland santedek 
What is top 3 then?
2019-03-25 10:01
#7
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Denmark Almoe 
navi
2019-03-25 10:02
#8
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
Check hltv later today you moron
2019-03-25 10:03
#12
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Denmark Almoe 
just because they didnt attend an event and they lose hltv points doesnt make them worse, imagine judging teams based off of HLTV list, moron
2019-03-25 10:03
#15
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
What if he is talking about the hltv ranking you dipshit. Use brain mb
2019-03-25 10:05
#17
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Denmark Almoe 
he clearly isnt since he could just look to the left of the webiste you absolute degenerate
2019-03-25 10:06
#19
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
#8 Holy shit you are dumb What do you rank teams based on? Your own individual opinion? Sorry to tell you this bud but nobody cares what the fuck you think
2019-03-25 10:07
#22
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Denmark Almoe 
clear you didnt understand the the point of the thread, also sad that you have to pretend your favourite team is justifiably going ranked top 3 due a poor point system on hltv
2019-03-25 10:15
#26
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
Not only is navi the worse team in actuality due to their poor performances and skipping events (because they know they would lose) they are also soon #4 in world rankings also. Your opinion is shit, and you are shit and should feel bad
2019-03-25 10:21
#31
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
so astralis is skipping tourneys because the, loose them anyways as well? xdd
2019-03-25 10:31
#45
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
No just navi Dont know why bringing up astralis, your arguments just probably always include strawmanning
2019-03-25 10:57
#72
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
And the worst-low-iq-bait-of-the-day-award goes to 0lter. Congratulations.
2019-03-25 12:29
#41
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Denmark Almoe 
damn you are actually retarded, have fun pretending
2019-03-25 10:44
#93
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Other juz36 
both idiots
2019-03-25 14:39
#28
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Finland Faifainei 
Pretty ez to see how the new hltv ranking will look so why would he ask? Think before you speak.
2019-03-25 10:29
Yes, i wanted to know opinions
2019-03-25 10:31
#34
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Finland Faifainei 
It seems like many people are ignoring navi, I feel like liquid, navi, ence are pretty close, maybe still would put navi in front of ence, starseries tells how they fit in.
2019-03-25 10:35
#48
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
Its quite easy to see how they fit in after starseries Use yiur brain man you just contradicted your own point
2019-03-25 10:58
#62
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Finland Faifainei 
Yes, thats what I did, you win. Congratulations.
2019-03-25 11:45
I'm not talking about hltv ranking
2019-03-25 10:13
#16
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Finland eMBeJaana 
+1
2019-03-25 10:05
nah man NaVi are only 11 points ahead of ENCE, with the loss of points NaVi will get and the gain ENCE will from Blast, ENCE will go #3
2019-03-25 11:18
#59
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Denmark Almoe 
yes if you are incapable of judging context around events and only base your opinion on a flawed points system of hltv, most people with a slight knowledge of the cs scene would rank navi 3rd even the game who made the thread made it clear he didnt ask about hltvs rankings since they are often inaccurate
2019-03-25 11:21
of course hltv ranking system is flawed, every system is flawed, im just saying that ENCE will take #3 on hltv. Id put NaVi tbh ence imo is in a much better form, although imo they both deserve the spot
2019-03-25 12:31
#2
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Finland trashsports 
Right now they are #3 team 1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3. ENCE
2019-03-25 10:00
#3
sergej | 
Finland santedek 
And are they going to back to back win starseries?
2019-03-25 10:00
#9
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
if they play like at the major and BLAST only navi can challenge them
2019-03-25 10:03
Agree.
2019-03-25 10:03
#67
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Finland SininenMF 
I would add Renegades
2019-03-25 12:08
+1
2019-03-25 12:17
#100
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Finland JHdash77 
+1 Renegades are literal cryptonite for ENCE, look at their major matches lol
2019-03-31 13:37
rng and astralis only team to win against ence in the playoffs :cool:
2019-03-25 13:47
back to back to back majors
2019-03-25 12:31
Ok
2019-03-25 12:55
#5
walle | 
Germany Fl0RR3 
top 1
2019-03-25 10:01
Nice
2019-03-25 10:06
top30
2019-03-25 10:02
Okay what teams are top 20?
2019-03-25 10:04
#30
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Finland Faifainei 
😎 Astralis is in top 30 too men, doesnt mean there are 29 better teams.
2019-03-25 10:31
avangar
2019-03-25 11:35
Nothing else?
2019-03-25 11:59
there's more
2019-03-25 13:45
Tell then
2019-03-25 13:49
1.Astralis (tier god) 2.Liquid (tier 1) 3.Navi (tier 2) 4.ENCE (tier 2)
2019-03-25 10:03
#38
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Europe Jansuuu 
ENCE-Liquid 2-0 15-15
2019-03-25 10:40
#49
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Finland James Nelson 
just need little more time and ppl accept that ence is top 2. If they can keep this up
2019-03-25 10:59
+1, but theyre gonna need it to keep going, if its just a fluke (i dont think it is) then they dont deserve it
2019-03-25 12:32
1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3.-4. Na’Vi/ENCE /closed
2019-03-25 10:05
EZ #4 ENCE
2019-03-25 10:12
Soon: EZ4#3NCE
2019-03-25 10:45
+1
2019-03-25 12:42
#23
Sosa | 
Europe wtfmen)) 
Yes
2019-03-25 10:16
Renegades lost to mibr
2019-03-25 10:19
#27
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Kazakhstan dc7 
yes they can lose to lower team on off day, its called upset they still have higher skill ceiling which is why they always dominated ence on separate days they played them and took a map off astralis, ence will never do this
2019-03-25 10:22
Ence havent played mirage against astralis
2019-03-25 10:32
haha no mate. renegades reverted back to their own skill level against mibr and lost. dont expect them to do anything special in the future they beat ence few times when ence was having the worst time in the tournament. nothing about ence was convincing at that point and they just didnt click the way they were supposed to. When they went 0-2 and faced elimination thats when they started playing and after that they went 10-1 to get to the finals
2019-03-25 11:13
+1
2019-03-25 11:16
#76
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Finland DespeQ 
0-2, lost first map and second map was already 0-7. What a comeback..
2019-03-25 12:37
#99
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Kazakhstan dc7 
i donno mate, thinking renegades definitely got upset by mibr renegades definitely superior to teams like mibr and ence in 2k19 guess time will tell, they will get another chance to show us
2019-03-31 13:33
nah but superior to mibr because they are bad right now
2019-03-31 17:18
#35
perk  | 
Finland eIe 
yes they can lose to lower team on off day, its called upset
2019-03-25 10:36
#37
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Kazakhstan dc7 
multiple off days just means the other team is better
2019-03-25 10:39
#33
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
Shows how bad the current teams are if you can be considered to be top 3 with 2 good tournaments.
2019-03-25 10:33
Well, i think it just means how good can some team be if they are in top 3 after 2 tournaments
2019-03-25 10:37
#40
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
Team that is so good cannot get out of mdl
2019-03-25 10:42
#42
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Finland Vkims 
because no one can this season
2019-03-25 10:45
#42
2019-03-25 10:57
#50
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
#12
2019-03-25 10:59
Yes?
2019-03-25 11:03
#52
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
Just wanted to post useless number like you did
2019-03-25 11:03
#42 isnt useless its fact and u are typical depressed jealous finn because u cant accept facts
2019-03-25 11:06
#54
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
Posting #42 after 42 is useless
2019-03-25 11:10
#39
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Kazakhstan dc7 
just means the hltv rankings are fried and still consider results from over half a year ago the upcoming head to head odds will show who is the better team, i.e. real ranks
2019-03-25 10:41
Ence real ranking is top2, but hltv will make them top3 because no logic
2019-03-25 10:46
#46
Salah | 
Sweden PerraP 
top 1
2019-03-25 10:57
#57
Vodka | 
Bulgaria karucar 
top 20
2019-03-25 11:16
#60
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
Astralis are miles ahead. After that it's >Liquid >ENCE (very on par with TL tho) >Na'vi trailing a bit Maybe a few triggerd Finnish or ENCE fans may come at me, but I feel like the fact that ENCE kinda choke against smaller teams puts them behind TL (although, yes, TL lost to Rogue)
2019-03-25 11:23
#63
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Finland Faifainei 
I am a triggered ence fan and would like to point out that you have a spelling error: "triggerd" isn't a word.
2019-03-25 11:49
This ^^
2019-03-25 12:26
#95
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
Well you obviously understood perfectly what I said, meaning it doesn't need to be spelt correctly
2019-03-25 15:25
#97
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Finland Faifainei 
Ye Im just trying to be funny little ence fan to balance out the toxic kiddos
2019-03-25 16:05
Fair point but is it choking when they play with no tactics and use guns like m249?
2019-03-25 12:57
#94
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
That implies (the use of guns like m249) that smaller teams don't exactly have the respect for ENCE as they do for other teams. This obviously shows then that Liquid are a more credible team and should be ahead of ENCE. + I believe choking is unrelated to how the opposition plays anyways. Simply, if ENCE lose to teams they should have convincingly beat, they've choked
2019-03-25 15:23
i think choke is when u throw game from 15-8 or something like that
2019-03-25 15:35
#98
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
Exactly, throwing a 15-8 lead is a choke because the team lost with 7 match points. They had a big advantage and failed to seize it so they choked. ENCE have way more firepower, talent and skill than these tier3 online teams, yet they couldn't use that to win the game, thus it's also a choke
2019-03-25 17:39
#64
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Denmark KOKSALTARES 
ence fans were cooler when they were memer's now they actually think ence is a top3 team after fluke major haha lol
2019-03-25 11:50
Ez4ence dont be jealous that ur countrys team so shit if they even have a team ;)
2019-03-25 12:06
#69
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Denmark KOKSALTARES 
ok sorry ence top1
2019-03-25 12:12
Fluke? Ence has shown they are easy top 3, close game with Astolis, tie with Liquid, other than that pretty comfortable wins. ENCE is top 3 without question.
2019-03-25 13:02
1. astralis 2. ence 3. navi
2019-03-25 12:08
Navi over tl even though never won against tl??
2019-03-25 12:59
na bots xaxaxa
2019-03-25 13:02
Axaxaxax
2019-03-25 13:02
1. Astralis 2. Ence/Liquid 3. NaVi
2019-03-25 13:49
#88
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Europe andy_ 
barely in top100
2019-03-25 14:32
nt plastic fan
2019-03-25 14:36
#90
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Europe andy_ 
I'm a metallic fan of Cloud9
2019-03-25 14:36
fan of 10 teams xaxaaxaxaxxaaxaxax
2019-03-25 14:36
#92
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Europe andy_ 
nixuja
2019-03-25 14:37
#101
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Estonia teremartin 
ence top 1, nip top 14
2019-03-31 13:39
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