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best tier 2-3 player
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Brazil MarkCS 
kscerato?
2019-03-26 03:17
#1
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
Zywoo or KennyS
2019-03-26 03:20
#2
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Brazil MarkCS 
2 tier 1
2019-03-26 03:20
#7
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
You must be out of your mind if you think that botg5 or LULtality are tier 1.
2019-03-26 03:23
we are talking about players
2019-03-26 03:24
#27
gAuLeS | 
Liechtenstein KotoPRO 
cold or fer... tier 3
2019-03-26 04:42
About tiers Tier 1: Top10 Tier 2: Top20 Tier 3: Top30 Ez like that.... don't fight more, girls.
2019-03-26 11:38
#65
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Russia slyfoxxdd 
it's just hltv to, I do not think that he is so reliable
2019-03-26 11:48
It's a good base, a don't know a better one.
2019-03-26 16:00
Fnatic=same tier as Astralis?
2019-03-27 13:07
Read, please.
2019-03-27 14:58
#66
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Israel TheLoveGuy 
cadian is a tier 1 player ? I dont think so :D
2019-03-26 11:49
If he mostly plays against tier 1 teams, yes, he is. Does not matter his specific skill level.
2019-03-26 16:10
#135
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Spain Tort1 
Wtf, Consistent top 8 are T1 Consistent top 30 T2 Under that T3
2019-03-26 19:21
So you're saying that North are tier 1? hahahaha
2019-03-26 21:04
so FaZe rn is T1? youre an idiot
2019-03-27 11:51
Lol these kids with 4 month accounts.
2019-03-27 12:21
dont matter about how long ive been on this site, have you seen FaZe's form, they barely won eleague, thanks to guardian carrying, and they scrapped by to katowice playoffs when they shouldve lost to CoL who played better just FaZe's individual performances got them past, and arguably they shouldve lost to C9
2019-03-27 13:05
#196
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United States ferric 
Not to mention that tournament they did barely win was at best a tier 2 tournament in and of itself
2019-03-30 22:55
tbh c9 deserved to win that, and they wouldve if guardian didnt just multiply the size of his dick 10 times
2019-03-30 23:39
#207
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United States ferric 
Yeah C9 won the Eco but the tech difficulties made guardian alt tab or smthing and even though they didn't have to replay since someone already took damage way before in the round, C9 wrre sportsman and decided to replay it even tho the rulebook said the round counted. Still they didn't deserve the win really considering they won 3 t rounds in a row but failed to get even one CT round to close out OT
2019-03-31 01:01
Top 20 Players are all tier 1
2019-03-27 16:58
#13
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India AAgOnFire 
So according to you a top 10 team isn't tier 1
2019-03-26 03:31
#14
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
Yes
2019-03-26 03:32
#18
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
As a Vitality fan and G2 fan he is right. Really the only tier 1 teams atm is Liquid and Astralis obviously
2019-03-26 03:58
Thats bullshit. Im not saying Vitality is tier 2 (which is debatable) , but G2 is def not tier 1. Also, how could you say teams like Navi, ence, and mibr are not tier 1. When they go to t1 events.
2019-03-26 04:48
#33
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
So you saying Avangar Windigo are tier 1??? Exactly, I never said G2 and Vitality are tier 1
2019-03-26 04:51
Some people don’t read before they hate.
2019-03-26 17:11
amen
2019-03-26 21:02
how about you read the entire thread and other messages he sent before saying things like this!
2019-03-27 20:39
M♿BR t1 LUL 0/8
2019-03-26 11:23
#92
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Poland cinos 
0/5 to be more accurate :)
2019-03-26 15:18
*0/10
2019-03-26 16:15
0/16**
2019-03-27 01:51
#127
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United Kingdom TiKoPigeon 
ENCE, MIBR, NaVi are not t1
2019-03-26 17:08
#161
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Finland Goofyraider 
yep, you are right Ence is Uber-tier team
2019-03-27 11:58
Mibr tier 5 team
2019-03-27 23:07
#40
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
Lmao
2019-03-26 05:40
#49
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Ence proved themselves to not be a fluke.
2019-03-26 11:24
What lose to tier 20 teams
2019-03-26 20:59
#143
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Online. Not on lan.
2019-03-26 21:43
#164
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United Kingdom jobels 
>implying mdl matters
2019-03-27 12:56
#197
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United States ferric 
Well MDL itself does matter since it's the qualification path to PRO league but a few online matches in MDL don't matter all that much
2019-03-30 22:57
#208
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United Kingdom jobels 
more in the case of ence who're going to blast and such i'm sure they can live without mdl
2019-03-31 16:41
#160
nukkye | 
Bulgaria kczr 
Not yet, we ll see at StarSeries but i am happy for them
2019-03-27 11:53
#20
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United States Jammin800k 
Yes? tiers are differentiated by results and performance not by arbitrary cutoffs (top 5, 10, 20 etc)
2019-03-26 04:05
#25
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United States Neroz44 
Tier 1 is literally just Astralis and Liquid... Some would say only Astralis is Tier 1. It is based off of how good the team is compared to other teams, not a cutoff...
2019-03-26 04:38
I will take a wild guess...you are not so smart are you?
2019-03-26 04:59
#39
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United States Neroz44 
Tier 1: Astralis, Liquid Tier 2: ENCE, NaVi, FaZe, NiP, MIBR Tier 3: RNG, North, Vitality, NRG, C9, G2 There is nothing wrong about what I said lol
2019-03-26 05:27
#43
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
Flag checks out
2019-03-26 05:42
#50
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Mibr looks pathetic. Maybe they still need time but currently I wouldn’t put them tier 2.
2019-03-26 11:26
#52
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Europe Jansuuu 
Liquid have never beat ENCE
2019-03-26 11:28
#59
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Finland ToxicDUD 
blast pro hello?
2019-03-26 11:38
15-15 hello?
2019-03-26 11:42
#62
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Finland ToxicDUD 
liquid advance hello?
2019-03-26 11:42
still 15-15 hello?
2019-03-26 14:01
#187
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Finland ToxicDUD 
still one won one lost hello?
2019-03-28 17:00
didnt lose a match? heard about a draw? hello?
2019-03-29 18:09
#69
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Europe Jansuuu 
Onko englannin luetunymmärtäminen noin heikolla tasolla?
2019-03-26 12:30
#203
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Finland lasarus 
takaisin peruskouluun ja allu-testeihin :D
2019-03-30 23:43
#199
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United States ferric 
yeah and ence have never made pro league before. One bo3 doesn't mean anything.
2019-03-30 22:58
Astralis has their own tier.
2019-03-26 11:53
#86
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United States Neroz44 
I only did that so people wouldn’t call me an Astralis fangay
2019-03-26 15:12
Well, in my opinion i don't like to put only one team in tier 1 so when i mention Astralis i Usually make the case for a god tier
2019-03-27 01:55
#151
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United States Neroz44 
Yeah that works too
2019-03-27 02:50
liquid is tier 2 aswell
2019-03-26 14:06
#87
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United States Neroz44 
Fine by me
2019-03-26 15:12
As I guessed, you are not so smart.
2019-03-26 14:36
#88
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United States Neroz44 
How am I not smart lol
2019-03-26 15:12
You dont understand how tiers work, or how they are/should be made. The End
2019-03-26 15:36
#134
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United States Neroz44 
But I do lol
2019-03-26 19:20
u just dont
2019-03-27 01:51
#152
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United States Neroz44 
stop baiting lmao
2019-03-27 02:50
Tier GOD: Astralis Tier 1: Liquid
2019-03-26 15:02
#89
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United States Neroz44 
Only did that so he wouldn’t call me Astralis fanboy.
2019-03-26 15:12
Mibr, FaZe , nip tier 2 ???????? Tier 1: Astralis (obv no one can beat astralis rn) Tier2: Liquid, Navi, Ence Tier3: mibr,FaZe, vitality,g2,north,nrg,rng,nip
2019-03-27 23:12
#183
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United States Neroz44 
Mibr and faze can compete with all the tier 2 teams. Maybe nip tier3. But I mean we will see. I guess currently you can put mibr down because poor performance, but it is kind of my opinion that they aren’t that bad
2019-03-28 00:28
Lol wtf do you think tier 1 is?
2019-03-26 11:21
#75
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Slovenia Josip09 
rofl you are actually retarded
2019-03-26 14:08
LMAO +1
2019-03-26 03:20
Coldzera
2019-03-26 16:27
kennyS tier 1 Zywoo tier 1
2019-03-27 23:05
#4
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Germany Neckarstadion 
niko
2019-03-26 03:21
#6
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Brazil MarkCS 
niko?
2019-03-26 03:22
#11
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Germany Neckarstadion 
Faze NiKO
2019-03-26 03:27
KNGv
2019-03-26 03:21
Those shit you are talking about
2019-03-26 04:48
#9
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Brazil Drikon 
Somebody, Mir, yuurih, chelo
2019-03-26 03:24
#10
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United States BigFnaticFan 
Ksceratwho?
2019-03-26 03:26
#186
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Brazil hmix 
50-22 vs NRG , top #19 , 17-0 on mdl and semi is day 25/04 for me a third best brazilian player
2019-03-28 01:15
#12
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Sweden fxzo 
Yurih, huNter, Jame.
2019-03-26 03:28
Jame just baiter
2019-03-27 12:23
#15
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Brazil RIPInPiece 
NAF
2019-03-26 03:39
cERq, brehze, kioshima, zhokiNg, kNg, konfig...
2019-03-26 03:48
#17
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Brazil johnnyOcean 
Zywoo, KNGV, kscerato, Jame, yuurih, Ethan (NrG), Poizon (Windigo), BnTeT (Tyloo)
2019-03-26 03:58
wtf kng is a t1 player bro
2019-03-26 11:50
#73
shox | 
India prat_pps 
Lol irrelevant player
2019-03-26 14:06
not more irrelevant than shox
2019-03-26 15:33
#123
shox | 
India prat_pps 
definitely more irrelevant than shox. btw just because some other player is irrelevant doesn't mean the player we are CURRENTLY speaking about is relevant. Did they not teach you common sense at school?
2019-03-26 17:06
#81
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Denmark minosss 
XDD
2019-03-26 15:05
#90
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Brazil johnnyOcean 
t1 player, t3 team. I believe the post is about good players playing at tier 2-3 teams.
2019-03-26 15:16
lol he didn't said it the post is about best tier 2-3 player, regardless the team he plays and kng is a tier 1 player in a tier 3 team
2019-03-26 15:33
#101
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Brazil johnnyOcean 
Friend, how can a player be 'best' and 'tier 2-3 player' at the same time? If a player is tier 2-3 individually, he's actually not good player. The post ask about BEST PLAYER tier 2-3, and this means: good players playing at tier 2-3 teams. Just read every comment above this and you will figure it out that everybody else is talking about top players who play at tier 2-3 teams. It's not that hard to understand.
2019-03-26 15:42
Friend, how can a player be 'best' and 'tier 2-3 player' at the same time? wtf are u talking about . a player could be tier 1 and play in a tier 2 team .. look at Na'vi without s1mple, they're barely tier 2, but he is definitely a godtier player i think u didn't get the thread point
2019-03-26 17:39
Lol navi is a top3-4 team. Stop acting like a retard m8
2019-03-26 20:41
#140
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United States Jammin800k 
Top 3-4 doesnt necessarily equal tier 1. Technically Astralis is the only top tier team right now
2019-03-26 21:03
"Technically, according to my own personal judgement for which i offer no explanation regarding the criteria what so ever, asstralis is the only..."* Did a quick fix there for you m8, no need to thank. Cant say its an engaging point tho, since your subjective idea of "top tier" isnt really an argument
2019-03-27 01:44
#149
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United States Jammin800k 
So what is your definition of top tier?
2019-03-27 02:27
Competing at the highest level lol Or astralis been playing tournaments alone? You can arrange tiers as you wish really, idgaf but saying a top4 team is barely tier 2(like the guy i originally responded to) just shows you have retarded criteria(like i implied) So whats your point again?
2019-03-27 06:19
#168
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United States Jammin800k 
So to you Astralis and Faze are in the same tier?
2019-03-27 16:23
Well, if faze reaches playoffs of t1 tournaments like astralis consistently then yeah. Can you play mostly t1 events and be t2? Lmao I mean, sure, if you wanna sound retarded then you can say yes, but kinda defeats the purpose of organizing things in tiers if youre just artificially making them more complicated, ye? Tiers by the same level of competition = organic and much better than spouting "hurr durr asstralis tier0 hurrrrr durrrrr mibr tier 5 hurrr swole patrol maybe tier 11 or 12, i lost count, hurrr durrrrrrr"
2019-03-27 22:36
#184
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United States Jammin800k 
No but it's also strange to say a team that consistently wins finals and if they dont it is odd is the same tier as a team that has only been making quarterfinals and placing 5th at Blasts which are invite only. Atm Astralis should be in a tier of their own and then you have a conglomeration of tier 2 teams that can makebfinals and have clear advantages over other teams such as Liquid Ence Navi Mibr and Faze. Astralis dominance should push the other teams down because they arent currently in the conversation to WIN tournaments. As stated in the definition no team is at the "same level of competion" as Astralis, as constantly stated it's clear that they are a few steps ahead of every other team rn.
2019-03-28 01:03
look to my comment once again u dumb i said na'vi would barely be a t2 team WITHOUT s1mple ...
2019-03-27 11:37
Yeah m8, i know. Thats retarded Como eu já tinha dito🤷‍♂️
2019-03-27 22:20
coldzera
2019-03-26 04:00
#21
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India PussyHound 
Lul i was about to comment the same just below.
2019-03-26 04:07
#35
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Canada away76 
he said tier 2-3, not tier 10
2019-03-26 04:54
huNter
2019-03-26 04:15
#23
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Finland Teukkasd 
espiranto, ottond
2019-03-26 04:16
hunter
2019-03-26 15:04
I think Nawwk could be a really good addition to a tier one team, needs experience and time of course but he's really talented.
2019-03-26 04:34
nt nawwk
2019-03-26 11:34
#26
KSCERATO | 
Brazil L1iMA 
Kscerato or Zywoo
2019-03-26 04:41
#28
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United States Jammin800k 
Difference between tier 2 and tier 3 is huge. Am i talking about the Valdes who could easily be on an elite tier 1 team and have already shown that they have it or the huNters and ksceratos that are the "next big thing"? if talking tier 2 woxic valde brehze/ethan REZ autimatic zywoo jame tabsen xantares tier 3 im looking at hunter, kscerato, yuurih, wardell, pozion, shipz, stanislaw (role based), bntet, boombl4, xsepower, syrson, kaze. attacker, savage, chopper, mir...
2019-03-26 04:44
+1
2019-03-26 05:42
#57
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Brazil Allistar 
kNgV too
2019-03-26 11:37
#173
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Turkey Lennon1923 
+1
2019-03-27 21:51
spot on
2019-03-27 23:18
#29
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United States blinDi 
Mixwell
2019-03-26 04:44
+1
2019-03-26 16:28
poizon
2019-03-26 04:49
#34
Xizt | 
Canada Rommlel 
Valde bro drops a 40 bomb and still doesnt make the majot because his teammates are shit -magisk +Valde
2019-03-26 04:53
wtf magisk is good
2019-03-26 15:06
#190
Xizt | 
Canada Rommlel 
Yeah I know I'm just playing, but Valde is still fucking great
2019-03-30 21:59
Poizon and shipz > any brazilian player that is not on mibr
2019-03-26 04:56
+1
2019-03-26 16:13
*Any brazillian player
2019-03-26 16:18
#37
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Philippines laiff 
rEZ
2019-03-26 04:57
#41
KRIMZ | 
Romania moetxxx 
Krimz
2019-03-26 05:40
Frozen, hope tier 1 soon :)
2019-03-26 11:23
#46
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Pakistan pakistaniboss 
hUnter
2019-03-26 11:23
snax
2019-03-26 11:23
#51
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Dirty peek Pete
2019-03-26 11:27
#53
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Europe Jansuuu 
Hunter or Espiranto
2019-03-26 11:29
Espiranto is off lately, he needs to work on his desicion making a lot but him and hunter for sure has tier 1 potential
2019-03-26 16:27
#54
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Estonia Hondas 
Hansel 'BnTeT' Ferdinand
2019-03-26 11:31
#55
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Ukraine Dragonb0rn 
YEKINDAR
2019-03-26 11:34
#63
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Europe artilele 
OMEGALUL
2019-03-26 11:44
#60
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Poland M0N0L0Q 
Sobol Hades Im sorry theyre not even tier10
2019-03-26 11:39
#64
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Europe artilele 
poizon
2019-03-26 11:44
KSCERATO yuurih kNgV HEN1 boltz
2019-03-26 12:38
#74
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Finland James Nelson 
coldzera hopefully he gets a solid team soon
2019-03-26 14:08
Tier2-3 not tier10
2019-03-26 17:07
#77
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Chile strong221 
issa shipz toao cooper hiko
2019-03-26 15:00
#79
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Finland helena420 
Well tarik if he performs like he used to for NRG (Although debatable is nrg t1 or 2)
2019-03-26 15:03
shipz and kscerato are both good picks
2019-03-26 15:05
Kscerato and naaaaawk
2019-03-26 15:06
Valde tier 3
2019-03-26 15:06
#91
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United States imred 
Kscerato is nuts, but both Infinite and Kaze are amazing too.
2019-03-26 15:16
Jabz
2019-03-26 15:35
#96
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Turkey cracklords 
Well it has to be xantares
2019-03-26 15:35
#98
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Poland Thukan 
Michu
2019-03-26 15:36
pashaBiceps
2019-03-26 15:39
Brehze or Valde destroy kscerato everyday
2019-03-26 15:40
#113
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Tier 1 players on Tier 1 teams lol
2019-03-26 16:28
coldzera
2019-03-26 15:47
#103
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United States FlagMaster 
Kscerato Stanislaw huNter
2019-03-26 15:53
Valde/HunTer/Nexa/Xantares
2019-03-26 16:14
Device (8
2019-03-26 16:28
#115
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Brazil hugoooo 
Shipz??? Are you guys delusional? Just because he had one better lan than poizon? Poizon >>>>> shipz
2019-03-26 16:32
#116
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Russia odyssey665 
s1mple
2019-03-26 16:32
qikert
2019-03-26 16:34
Krimz
2019-03-26 16:34
#119
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Russia versusworld 
Jame
2019-03-26 16:34
kng
2019-03-26 16:39
There is no such thing as Tier 1/2/3 players. We can assume that a player on a Tier 3 team is tier 3, but that's it.
2019-03-26 17:02
#124
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Denmark M0rtalSavage 
lol. If theres is no tier 1 or 2 players, then there most be no tier 1 or 2 teams. Otherwise its stupid. All this tier talk is stupid.
2019-03-26 17:06
#141
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United States Jammin800k 
Nah I can easily distinguish that Valde is a tier above anyone on his team and therefore makes them look better
2019-03-26 21:04
s1mple is a tier 1 player in a tier 3 team
2019-03-27 11:43
You can't say the fourth best team in the world is tier 3. They are Tier 1, with Liquid and Ence. Astralis is tier 1 / God tier
2019-03-27 16:57
lol, read my comment they're tier 1 because of s1mple
2019-03-27 21:49
Your dad
2019-03-27 22:58
#122
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Poland trustmeimboy 
Gruby
2019-03-26 17:05
#126
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Hungary HAWI 
kolor
2019-03-26 17:08
snatchie michu taz
2019-03-26 17:09
hunden b1ad3
2019-03-26 17:10
dycha
2019-03-26 17:43
Astralis is the only Tier 1 team, so I'd say the best T2 player is s1mple.
2019-03-26 17:44
#138
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Russia x4ck3r 
OMEGALUL Jame is so insane
2019-03-26 21:02
IGNACIO "MEYERN" MEYER /CLOSE
2019-03-27 01:50
Natosaphix
2019-03-27 02:31
#153
MSL | 
Europe lgbtzera 
coldzera
2019-03-27 02:51
#158
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Europe Markss 
Brehze autimatic tabsen BnTeT Freeman XiGN xeta Mixwell
2019-03-27 11:47
Kaze
2019-03-30 23:46
#174
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Poland Konteiz 
fer
2019-03-27 22:17
#177
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Spain thebest5 
s1mple
2019-03-27 22:34
Felps
2019-03-28 01:11
no he sucks
2019-03-29 18:09
tier 2-3? idk, s1mple.
2019-03-30 22:00
Device
2019-03-30 22:08
#193
woxic | 
Turkey tigrit0 
tabsen for sure
2019-03-30 22:10
blameF
2019-03-30 22:12
#195
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Sweden Lagge15 
Krimz
2019-03-30 22:53
#198
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United Kingdom Dogehino 
syrsoN
2019-03-30 22:57
#200
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Turkey sonbafrali 
xsepower
2019-03-30 23:00
#202
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Latvia Agbetchok 
EspiranTo or huNter
2019-03-30 23:41
#204
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Portugal idrisgo 
fox Kappa
2019-03-30 23:44
Dev1ce
2019-03-30 23:47
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