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Low sens isnt good!
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Philippines BritishCocaine 
Having low sens is a disadvantage in today meta. New meta rely more on fast pace trade kills and faster decision so having low sens is disadvantage because you cant play in fast pace Ps ive been playing this game for 8 years so i knew what i said
2019-03-27 03:58
#1
kNgV- | 
Canada AyWays 
twitch movements might better because you move a smaller part of your body?
2019-03-27 04:03
#234
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Slovakia Georgy10 
2019-03-28 16:12
#2
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United States No5712 
if you know where to aim, you can use a low sens just fine.
2019-03-27 04:03
#9
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Philippines BritishCocaine 
No, you cant aim if you having low sens. As i said, you cant move faster than someone playing with high sens. Therefore you cant get trade kills faster than high sens, cant get good mouse grip angle than high bcs low sens means your mouse angle in the desk is very random
2019-03-27 04:14
Its not about moving faster lol.. Its about aiming right, good crosshair placement and anticipation
2019-03-27 04:38
Its also about being smooth and consistent the best aimer never has to flick, hell peak and have his cross hair already on the head of his victim and he might have to make the smallest adjustment before taking their head off.
2019-03-27 04:52
exactly
2019-03-28 10:40
#72
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Germany mrrwombat 
+1
2019-03-28 11:16
you just emphasized the benefits of a low sens
2019-03-28 11:42
Yeah and the benefits if a low sens are far greater than the ones of a high sens, it doesnt matter how fast you can turn if you dont hit the shot, and clearly most pros agree as senses are pretty low in CS for the most part. And for basic mechanical reasons you are more likely to be accurate and hit the shot on a lower sens.
2019-03-28 11:43
Totally agree. I must've misinterpreted #24, thought you wanted to support a high sens. Low sens > high sens.
2019-03-28 11:46
#265
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Norway SaltySausage 
high sens is nice in fortnite all kids are now rekt
2019-03-29 09:29
I never tried fortnite, so can't tell.
2019-03-29 10:30
#272
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Norway SaltySausage 
there is this thing called bulding, where you essentially just spazz out shit everywhere until you have high ground, then you shoot your opponent. spazzing effectively needs high sens
2019-03-29 10:31
damn, now i understand why people say fortnite takes more skill than any br game. thanks men
2019-03-29 10:33
#275
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Norway SaltySausage 
its best game ever, 10 year olds playing 900x1080 stretched res with one hundred sens just shitting all over you with their tiny t-rex arms
2019-03-29 10:37
I’m gonna have to back this up! I play low sens, 1,62@400dpi, and the only problem for me is transfering the crosshair between two players with a lot of distance between them. In any other situation low sens is better (for me at least)
2019-03-28 11:51
In reality its more important to secure that first kill consistently and also all the downsides of a low sens can be offset with utility, positioning, cross hair placement and trades, the down sides of a high sens, they are inherent.
2019-03-28 11:53
Yeah, u will Get fucked over because of your sens sometimes with low sens, but much more often with high sens. I’ve never had to drag around 180 degrees and lost, and then thought: «hey, maybe i should higher my sens?»
2019-03-28 11:56
Meanwhile i have had to make the smallest little adjustment on high EDPI in a tense situation and fucked it up, low sens also makes it easier when under stress.
2019-03-28 11:57
#266
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Norway SaltySausage 
use mouse acceleration
2019-03-29 09:30
me too! im using 1.64 400dpi
2019-03-28 12:02
then u must be good :D
2019-03-28 12:07
ty! u too mate!
2019-03-28 12:08
#267
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Norway SaltySausage 
800dpi and 1.10 in game is god sens
2019-03-29 09:31
i've never tried
2019-03-29 15:31
instead of tranfer try to reset the spray when they are that away from each other, its better to get that first kill and just reset the brain for the next one, if you die theres no problem, someone on your team will get the trade
2019-03-28 12:34
spray transfer isnt a problem, but the movement from one player to another takes longer for me than someone with 2,4 sens. i know how to play csgo, im globaleliteforlyf
2019-03-28 13:01
thats the point, if its hard for you to spray transfer when they are far, just reset it, gives you more time to aim to the other dude, never told you that you're bad
2019-03-28 13:09
its not about transfering the spray, its about how long it takes to drag the crosshair from one player to another xD
2019-03-28 13:39
See i have to disagree, the lower i got the better my spray transfers got. Iwas standing between default and triple on Mirage and one 600EDPI i transfered from Under palace to Sandwich and then to default and got all 3 kills.
2019-03-28 14:38
#268
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Norway SaltySausage 
you are norwegian, just use your nav money and buy a bigger mousepad
2019-03-29 09:31
+1
2019-03-28 12:01
+1
2019-03-28 12:10
Are you British for real?
2019-03-29 08:53
Why?????
2019-03-29 08:54
#210
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Europe tweekzter 
Despite probably being baiting, he's not totally wrong. No matter what, with higher sens you can always flick faster, as you need to bypass less distance on your mouse pad. -> Same arm speed -> faster flick.
2019-03-28 14:34
#269
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Norway SaltySausage 
yes, but for most players its hard to be consistent with high sens
2019-03-29 09:32
#253
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France Aalkhaan 
+1
2019-03-29 08:50
#44
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Australia CaZeR01 
Ur not very smart
2019-03-27 05:46
#49
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New Zealand Eauor 
what you say is all bullshit lmao, if low sense was a problem then pros wouldn't all be using low sens.
2019-03-27 07:00
if low sens wasnt a problem too, then no pros at all would be using high sens
2019-03-28 11:58
#270
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Norway SaltySausage 
what? its all preferance
2019-03-29 09:33
#211
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Europe tweekzter 
While I agree, that this is either baiting or stupidity, there is still a part truth to it. Higher sens means you can flick faster with same arm speed. And regarding "pros would do it" - remember how everyone argued that pros don't buy the AUG because it is the price of an additional flashbang.
2019-03-28 14:36
I prefer high sens but because i have a small mousepad i need to use high sens or i will get my mouse out of the pad
2019-03-28 23:12
#249
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New Zealand Eauor 
What you say is true ONLY in a vacuum which ignores ALL the other important factors that are a reality for any player. If we were talking about a robot who was 100% consistent and had perfect literally everything 100% of the time, then yes, faster sensitivity is objectively better simply because you can kill people slightly faster. But you need to remember that there are so many important factors which come into aim, including MOVEMENT which seems to be forgotten in the sensitivity conversation, ultimately - lower sensitivities are GENERALLY better when considering all human factors.
2019-03-29 02:08
#250
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Europe tweekzter 
Well, I agree to a certain extent. But that has nothing to do with vacuum. If you are able to move your mouse with a certain speed on your pad, it will ALWAYS be faster with a higher sens - no matter friction or whatsoever. I agree that it comes down to personal preference and dexterity tho. If you have good dexterity, higher sens might be beneficial.
2019-03-29 08:37
#278
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New Zealand Eauor 
>If you are able to move your mouse with a certain speed on your pad, it will ALWAYS be faster with a higher sens - no matter friction or whatsoever. never denied this, I agreed.
2019-03-29 11:32
that is completely wrong, you can move just as fast, but you have to move the mouse further, sure its slightly slower but with high sens you easily overshoot it
2019-03-28 10:50
if you move your mouse faster that also makes it easier to overshoot. its all relative.
2019-03-28 11:58
not really, theres more room for error
2019-03-28 12:43
yes bigger margin for error and bigger error and bigger error variance, all proportional to each other.
2019-03-28 12:44
Nope, thats not how it works, lower sens picks up movement in less intervals, therefore less room for micro specs of dust being picked up and just shifting the movement away a pixel
2019-03-28 12:45
yeah if you play at 400dpi like its 1999. you can put dpi on 1600 or 2400 or 3200 and make your in game sens 4 or 6 or 8 times lower, and then you have more fine grained movement. also if your mouse picks up dust if you increase the dpi over 400, you need a better mouse. we have the technology.
2019-03-28 12:48
when people say sens in csgo they usually mean the mix between dpi and igsens
2019-03-28 12:49
you cant play high sens (more than 2-4 in game sens depending on your resolution) on 400dpi, you get pixel skipping and your aim will be shit and you cant control spray. this is one of the most common reasons why people think high sens is always bad, because they never bothered to set it up properly.
2019-03-28 12:50
mouse-sensitivity.com/forum/topic/423-cs.. you can find more info on youtbe, 3clicksphilip or some guy like that i think made a video on pixel skipping
2019-03-28 12:51
the irony of this is that a lot of people play on 400dpi and more than 2 sens and they still have slow movement and also get pixel skipping if they are playing on high res. which is one of the main reasons why people think high res is bad in csgo. besides fps.
2019-03-28 12:53
i play 400 dpi and 1.7 so doesnt affect me
2019-03-28 12:58
yeah below 2 you are all good but you could try 800dpi and 0.85 sens, it will still help you make smaller adjustments.
2019-03-28 13:09
Its so small that it basically doesnt matter.
2019-03-28 14:39
it matters to me, i cant play on 400dpi, idk how so many people get used to their crosshair teleporting around the screen. you can feel how grainy the movement is.
2019-03-28 15:21
#214
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Europe tweekzter 
>it's just as fast >it's slightly slower ...
2019-03-28 14:38
i dont make sense, and i do when you know i do
2019-03-28 21:46
NiKo begs to disagree...
2019-03-28 11:33
You said you have played this game for 8 years. But the first release of csgo is 2012, which is 7 years for now.
2019-03-28 11:55
#222
Luminous | 
Tunisia me_ 
He's clearly talking about cs series.
2019-03-28 15:24
I play 1.5 sens, 400 dpi meaning I have more control than most high sens players, so micro-adjustments are so much easier than if I was playing a higher sens. I can also flick as accurately as high sens players, if not more accurately because I have more control. Idk what you mean by "The mouse angle in the desk is very random" but I assume you mean because of how your arm bends the mouse will be at a different angle relative to your elbow. When you move your mouse it tracks the direction relative to itself, so the angle doesn't matter. This would also affect higher sensitivities the exact same so I don't see your point if that is what you meant. Although thats probably not your point. High and low sens has they're advantages but what you're saying about the meta favouring higher sens is just wrong.
2019-03-28 12:00
the meta slightly starting to favor a bit more higher sens could be true, just because of the aug and sg being more viable. with a scope for long range fights that lowers your sens, you could argue that avg sens could go up a few % once new players who started playing in this meta start to filter into the pro scene. we will see in a few years if the game isnt dead by then. its not like players who already played for a million years with a certain range of sens are going to change it now.
2019-03-28 13:12
The scope sens being lower doesn't really affect me personally but I guess I can see how some people would benefit from higher sens with it. I still favour the control of a low sens over the speed of a high one. You can also independently control scope sensitivity if you're not a fan of the low scope sens, but as I said I'm fine with it being lower and don't mind having to physically flick further with my arm if necessary.
2019-03-28 13:26
in the most extreme case you could walk around the map scoped in and only scope out to do 180s. if you have teammates covering your flanks there isnt much down side to the scope's lower fov
2019-03-28 15:19
#209
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Other jakerr 
Dudr its all about crossharplacement if you want to trade, fucking silver
2019-03-28 13:42
I agree. I use 3.3 sens with default dpi.
2019-03-27 04:05
default dpi varies from mouse to mouse lol, somewhere this value is 400 somewhere it is 800 or 1600 or 1000
2019-03-27 04:56
Considering 400 dpi is the lowest 3.3 sens is still high
2019-03-27 06:44
#56
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Norway analpain1337 
All he needs for ragehack is aimbot It, there is No reason to have sens higer then 180degreeturn on mousepad swipe
2019-03-28 10:47
yes there is, if you need to get multiple kills on enemies who are rushing you down in post plant or something, your teammates die faster than expected, you might need to turn 270 degrees or more without lifting your mouse. low sens players usually just die in that spot. thats okay, its a good way to play, but dont say there is no tradeoff. also, having to lift your mouse, move it to the edge of the desk, and then swipe and lift it for the second time, is a lot slower than doing a 180 without lifting your mouse. you can say its bad but you cant say theres no reason. youtube.com/watch?v=rksKvZoUCPQ
2019-03-28 12:01
#143
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Norway analpain1337 
Or you just turn the other way so you only have to make a 90 degree turn? You can never unless your a retard be forced to make q bigger november then 180degrees
2019-03-28 12:19
I doubt you've been playing for 8 years considering you had to mention. Which seems like you said it just to put it out there. And "prove" that you played it for 8 years
2019-03-27 04:05
#6
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Philippines BritishCocaine 
I played 1.6 bro i mean i play cs for 8 years
2019-03-27 04:10
#111
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Europe god_of_hltv 
nice prove btw
2019-03-28 11:56
#5
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Finland dev2ce 
csgo hasn't even been out for 8 years nt mate
2019-03-27 04:09
#41
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United States fatburger 
c s
2019-03-27 05:29
#52
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Finland dev2ce 
topic is in csgo section and he said “this game”
2019-03-27 14:16
#7
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
0/8 It isn't. The game is based on aim, so if you could hit headshots on every shot with a 70 yrs old's reaction time, you would be good.
2019-03-27 04:11
yeah no youre gonna lose to people who adad around cover if youre not fast enough
2019-03-28 12:02
Thats just wrong the average sens hasnt changed at all in the last 7 years and also you dont need to flick when you know where to place your crosshair. I play on anything from 560-680EDPI and i often play hard entry, i have no issue playing in a fast paced manner.
2019-03-27 04:19
Rn, most pros using medium high sens which means new meta suit more for having high sens
2019-03-27 04:17
Not really, the average of the top 20 was 811, thats not high, the average for all pros is 960, so actually the higher up you go the lower the sens tend to get on average, theres a basic reason for this, it doesnt matter how fast you aim, if its not on target it means nothing and with lower sens its easier to be accurate. Then you have players like Niko and NAF who both use 560, Twitzz used 584, Dupreeh used about 720, most people in Astralis use about 800, that not high at all, its actually below the pro average of 960 and they are the best team in the world. Your argument has literally nothing to substantiate it and no leg to stand on, the fact is humans make mistakes as we are a very inconsistent, even the best of use, the higher you sens the more these mistakes will be magnified.
2019-03-27 04:29
Only 4 of them you mention, they might using low sens but the majority play with high sens
2019-03-27 04:29
No as i just proved by showing the average, only ones using high sens were Oskar, s1mple and Elige. Niko, NAF and Twistzz all used in the 500s. Everyone from Astralis used EDPI's in the 800s apart from Dupreeh and his was 720. Your argument has nothing to back it up as i have shown. s1mple 1236 Device 800 Niko 560 Electronic 880 Dupreeh 720 NAF 560 Magisk 800 Glaive 840 KRIMZ 680 Coldzera 880 Guardian 520 Twistzz 584 xyp9x 800 Oskar 1400 Elige 1184 Sunny 880 Autimatic 740 Rain 787 Ropz 708 Valde 660 Only 3 of the, above the average pro EDPI of 960. 7 of them in the 800s 4 in the 700s 2 in the 600s 4 is the 500s Thats 17 below the pro average for 3 above it, that actually shows the opposite to what youre saying.
2019-03-27 04:43
Never realised how high my sens was, I thought it was relatively normal and in fact, I know people with even higher sensitivities. My eDPI is exactly 4000.
2019-03-27 04:35
Your EDPI is very high, you would probably improve a great deal by lowering it, the highest any pro plays on is about 2500. Personally from experience most people will find their best EDPI between 500-1000, any lower is too low and any higher tends to be too high, but its better to be too low than too high, you can always lift your mouse or swipe a bit more, if you miss it has much more instant consequences.
2019-03-27 04:45
I mean, I started out with very little desk space, so I always had to go high sens. I'm used to it and can make plays with it and it feels right, so there's no way I'm going to lower it.
2019-03-27 06:39
Have you ever tried????? You might find yourself much more accurate, there is a reason when most player fall between 560-1260.
2019-03-27 07:10
All of FaZe plays like sub-780 eDPI (with NiKo and GuardiaN being especially low). All of MiBR plays below 1000 (though fer's at 1000, and everybody else plays below 880), and no, I'm not saying MiBR is good at all, but they are prominent pros still. All of Astralis plays below (and including) 840 eDPI. In fact, the lowest eDPI on their team is their entry fragger, dupreeh, at 720. autimatic plays at 560. The two best players in Liquid, Twistzz and NAF, both play at 560 eDPI. ENCE's best player, sergej, plays at 560. Krimz plays at 680. The only really notable players who play at a high sens are S1mple, f0rest and...Elige, perhaps? Maaaaybe GeT_RiGhT? electronic, perhaps, though he's at 1080 eDPI, which isn't SUPER high sens, but it's pretty high. Most of the high sensitivity segment of CS:GO players are kinda shitters, though.
2019-03-27 04:35
GTR is 960 thats the pro average, Electronic is 880, thats pretty medium. Auti is 740 not 560.
2019-03-27 04:44
playing entry can work with low sens because you can take a minute to haul your mouse from one side of the desk to the other, but if you get caught out with such low sens i dont see how youre going to turn anywhere in reasonable time.
2019-03-28 12:04
Very easily, i have no issue with it and ive played as low as 512 EDPI and played hard entry and i found it perfectly fine.
2019-03-28 12:05
if 1 of your teammates doesnt cover his angle and an enemy peeks there while you are pre aiming your own spot, what do you do?
2019-03-28 12:07
Flick over, its very easy even on very low sens.
2019-03-28 12:14
its not about how easy or hard it is, its about how much time you have
2019-03-28 12:16
You have time, proven by played like Dupreeh, Niko sometime enters, sometimes so does Twistzz and they all have low senses.
2019-03-28 12:17
those guys play in teams with structure, you probably dont. do you know what niko does when he gets peeked from an angle he isnt pre aiming? he dies.
2019-03-28 12:24
No he actually doesnt, he often kills them, and his KD shows that. You clearly have very limited Knowledge. Im done with you, plenty of people play with senses of 500 and less and have none of the issues you are talking about, me included.
2019-03-28 12:26
We're talking about common logic, low sens means you have good aim adjustments but fucked up if you turn around like the guy said in #126
2019-03-28 22:46
All this kid does is just hold a gay ass off angle with his deag and one clicks people in the side of the head CT side. Fucking terrbile player tbh.....3.09 sensitivity 400dpi using trashcan. Anyone who uses a high sens does not have the dexterity to properly play FPS games on PC. All the shitty baiters use a high sens to flick people on the back of the head, or they are equally worthless and use the telescope gun and one click people in the body. I bet this kid doesn't even play retake cuz he'd throw his arm out of his socket checking corners by flicking too hard. When was the last time you've seen s1mple popflash through a smoke, and perfectly line up his crosshair and one-tap two people to open up a site??? All this dude does is hold W and flick common angles. like wow dude, ur fucking nuts. you have parkinsons disease, you play on 3.09 sens and ur just baiting and flicking heads on common angles.
2019-03-27 04:18
Ahahahahhahahhahahaha best hltv comment🤣😂😂😂
2019-03-27 04:46
Legend
2019-03-27 05:32
#276
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
Hahahahah that was good :DD
2019-03-29 10:50
Also to further prove you wrong out of the top 20 of 2018 the average EDPI was 811.
2019-03-27 04:19
Philippines talking about pro cs meta LUL
2019-03-27 04:33
I have 400 DPI 1.5 ingame I can play without any problems cuz I’m used to it
2019-03-27 04:50
Hes just being a troll, 17 out of the top 20 from 2018 played with and EDPI lower than the pro average of 960. And more more played with EDPI's in the 500s than did with EDPI's in the 900s or 1000s.
2019-03-27 04:54
I use 800*2.5 😎😎😎😎😎😎
2019-03-27 04:54
#67
f0rest | 
Poland axm32 
Noob detected
2019-03-28 11:06
No u 😎😎😎
2019-03-28 12:25
#241
f0rest | 
Poland axm32 
XD
2019-03-28 19:46
#28
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Denmark N000rge 
literally the dumbest thing ive ever read. no way he has been playing for 8 years.
2019-03-27 05:03
Yeah given that 17 out of the top 20 players play on 880 or less and more of them play in the 500s than in the 1000s.
2019-03-27 05:05
#32
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Denmark N000rge 
exactly. why dont people research instead of making stupid threads.
2019-03-27 05:08
#51
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New Zealand Eauor 
he doesnt even sound like he knows how to play the very basics of csgo
2019-03-27 07:01
This
2019-03-28 10:55
#29
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Australia Mortein 
Low sens isn't a problem when you have good crosshair placement and gamesense.
2019-03-27 05:04
and teammates with good teamwork and good strategies and you have to know all the grenades. try playing super low sens on MM, you will get rekt a lot because your teammates are afk in spawn and you have to kill guys quickly.
2019-03-28 12:05
Most of the pros play 4;3 stretched or bb, when ur picture is stretched your horizontal sens feels faster than on not stretched picture so even 650 edpi is not that low considering u play on a stretched 4:3. And 800 on bb or fullhd feels not slow at all so em..u dont have to make edpi value higher than like 1000
2019-03-27 05:07
#33
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Finland Teukkasd 
i played with 800 dpi and 6 ingame sens, is it high?
2019-03-27 05:10
it is
2019-03-27 05:11
#36
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Finland Teukkasd 
what difference is on edpi and dpi or is it same thing?
2019-03-27 05:13
edpi is your dpi x ingame sens
2019-03-27 05:19
#39
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Finland Teukkasd 
allright ty :p
2019-03-27 05:26
np
2019-03-27 05:35
Thats extreme. Thats 6 times the average for the top 20 players in the world.
2019-03-27 05:13
#37
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Finland Teukkasd 
haha i was even global played with laptop 20-50 fps
2019-03-27 05:13
#205
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United States kearCS 
With that sensitivity and dpi, that is complete and utter bullshit.
2019-03-28 13:24
#235
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Finland Teukkasd 
tbh its not bullshit i have played with that sens everytime, ( cs 1.6 ) 2.2k hours and csgo 4.4k hours )
2019-03-28 16:58
Play what you manage rofl, very low sens, you see ppl die to "pop flash" even tho the flash sucks ass, but they can't turn fast enough away then back again, then at high sens, you sometimes see they miss easy shots far away. Pick after what type of player type you have.
2019-03-27 05:29
+1. Not because I agree with your point, but because low sens can lead to sore and hurt wrists. Stay safe kiddos!
2019-03-27 06:52
#48
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Denmark fuzeCSGO 
It's subjective.
2019-03-27 06:54
Say this to NiKo omegalul. 0/8
2019-03-28 10:43
8 years seems to not be enough for you to be at least decent at english
2019-03-28 10:45
#57
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Europe Quinxxx 
Philippines cs LUL
2019-03-28 10:47
+1 LUL
2019-03-28 11:07
if ur a man u should be strong enough to play low sens
2019-03-28 10:51
Dogshit argument. Low sens players can turn around just as fast as high sens players. They just move their arms faster. Watch some Niko highlights. I don't see him moving his crosshair slowly
2019-03-28 10:54
yes you do. niko can only move his crosshair quickly for like 20 30 degrees of rotation then he has to move his whole arm and lift his mouse. thats why he usually baits his teammates for easy trade kills, so he can crank his crosshair into position like he's aiming a fucking mortar for 10 seconds before he peeks. and if someone peeks him close when he isnt already aiming in the right spot, he is just dead. the trade off is that its really easy for him to headshot people at long range.
2019-03-28 12:11
Wrong My sens is almost as low as his and I don't have any problems whatsoever
2019-03-28 12:43
what do you mean wrong, just watch him play, he cant kill people if his crosshair isnt already almost on them. you dont ever see him turn more than 30 degrees and hit a shot immediately. yry to look ip up. the furthest niko ever flicked in my memory is from the middle of short on dust2 A to gandalf while standing on ramp.
2019-03-28 12:47
It's just wrong. Simple as that. I've seen enough clips from him whee he flicked 180 degrees. If course he tries to get himself where he doesn't need to but still, he's capable of doing so. Counterstrike is not about fast flicks but to outplay your opponent and predicting where he will be. It's not ffa death match where you get shot in your back all the time. And even if he couldn't flick as fast, high sens players wouldn't have an advantage since their aim is not as precise. Just a stupid thread
2019-03-28 12:53
niko doesnt flick 180 degrees. no hiko flicks from him. i would remembera niko hiko flick if i ever saw it.
2019-03-28 12:54
Dust2 deagle, he peeked mid killed one guy, flicked 180 to kill a guy T spawn Might not be a proper "flick" but it still shows that he can turn just as fast as a high sens player
2019-03-28 12:55
yeah he can turn but he has to lift his muse after, thats not a flick, thats just called aiming.
2019-03-28 12:56
if you want to talk about a low sens player who can flick lets talk about twistzz, for that guy i can agree that low sens doesnt have a down side
2019-03-28 13:04
>counterstrike is not about fast flicks but to outplay your opponent and predicting where he will be. It's not ffa death match where you get shot in your back all the time. it is on mm and faceit, i havent tried esea yet.
2019-03-28 12:54
if you can aim faster, you dont have to be precise, you can just try to get the kill and if you miss you can run away before the guy moves his mouse to the other side of the table.
2019-03-28 12:55
What rank are you? Aiming is way faster than moving. Wtf
2019-03-28 12:56
movement in this game is pretty fast if you dont get tagged especially with scout smg and pistol. just try it out, if you know someone is holding close next to a wall, run out wide and dont stop, theyll probably miss. pros do it too. if people played on higher sens, that would be less viable. therefore there is a trade off.
2019-03-28 13:06
If you prefire a spot you barely move your mouse at all. So the used sensitivity doesn't matter. I don't get it. What are you trying to accomplish?
2019-03-28 13:16
if you dont hit the prefire you will have to move your crosshair pretty far if someone just strafes wide with an smg or 5 7 and sprays at you its a viable strat in pro games, on eco rounds you will see ppl either hold an angle with a deagle or swing wide with a cz or p250, at close range the moving pistol accuracy gives you an advantage over a player holding the angle with a rifle, if you use your movement. and back when tec9 was good it was even stronger. now if pros can do that on eco rounds, then at any level below that, where peoples aim is worse, its a viable strategy on gun rounds too, you get a better % against a lot of low sens players by strafing out wide rather than by stopping in their prefire angle. i dont have polio and if i play low sens and someone strafes me close range with a light weapon, i nearly throw my shoulder out trying to keep up.
2019-03-28 15:16
Now what does that have to do with sensitivity?
2019-03-28 15:20
if you have higher sens you can more easily keep up with strafing enemies at very close range, you can rotate and spray for body shots just by sliding across the mousepad at a normal speed, calmly, or try to flick instantly to their head using only a wrist movement after you miss the first bullet. much easier than with low sens. conversely, trying to track enemies who are adading you at long range is easier with high sens because then you can also move your mouse at a normal relaxed pace and use your wrist for adjustments. basically, the closer the range most of your engagements are at, the higher you would want your sensitivity to be.
2019-03-28 15:26
Ah ok, now I get it. Still I don't think it does much of a difference since the time you move your mouse with high sens and low sense should be equally low. But I get your point now xD
2019-03-28 15:46
oops double post
2019-03-28 15:25
Should i write "0/8" or "retarded thread"?
2019-03-28 10:58
both
2019-03-28 10:58
if you type retarded you took the bait and that makes it 2/8 minimum
2019-03-28 12:12
NAF 1.2 NiKo 1.4 Twistzz 1.4 (i think) Sergej 1.4 Guardian 1.3 Just a few that come to mind that use low sens (under 1.6)
2019-03-28 10:58
1.46 for twistzz.
2019-03-28 11:21
#65
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Ukraine ksay 
the meta was always the same shoot in the heads
2019-03-28 11:03
Too much cocaine also isnt good for you mate
2019-03-28 11:05
#69
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Denmark dev111ce 
8 years xD
2019-03-28 11:11
CSGO came out in 2012 . 2019 - 8 = 2011 . NT XDDDDDDD
2019-03-28 11:15
#71
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
Tbh i don't know how people play with low sens, like how the fuck do you entry? 800dpi 2 sens here
2019-03-28 11:15
400dpi 1,7 sensitivity here, i have a big mousepad (100cm x 60cm or something), i just use bigger movements, i like small sensitivity bc it's easier to be accurate for me
2019-03-28 11:18
#75
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
But i'm sorry imagine having to entry i mean ofc you can check left and right but if you get shot in behind i mean your fucked. Also your statement about more accurate that's just preference as you played with it for a while same will be with higher sens
2019-03-28 11:20
my mousepad is large enough for me to flick 180 degrees or even more, but yea im usually fucked (as basically people are) when someone's behind, i watch behind myself alot for that reason. also ik its only a preference, thats why i said 'for me'
2019-03-28 11:24
#81
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
Okay, maybe you can flick but you'll probably swing all your hand to write or left side and then it's even more unconformable to pray ^^
2019-03-28 11:27
maybe yea, i've tried to put my sens bigger but i wont hit anything when i do
2019-03-28 11:28
#89
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
Unlucko but doesn't matter we got niko aka god with 1.4 blameF with 1.2
2019-03-28 11:29
relax your wrist and move your mouse slower, if you play low sens you have to lock your wrist to move your hand fast, with high sens you can take it easy, never hurry, always stay calm. even if you switch back quickly, changing your sens a bit can help get better at the game, help visualize things differently.
2019-03-28 12:13
i changed from 1.7 to 2 now, its working out okay
2019-03-28 12:56
yeah but what if you try playing on 1.3 or on 3 sens, that might make you look at the game differently.
2019-03-28 13:07
Easily, its called crosshair placement, its what you learn when you develop as a player, when i enter Inferno on B sites theres many angles, the first is CT, thats smoked, the next is coffins, thats smoked, flashes come in with me so CT players boosted blind, the only places i have to worry about are dark and E box, the awper will hold dark once im past it then i only have to worry about E box and the two places to my left, one or 2 of them will be bathed in fire. If you are entering sites and having opposing angles not mollied or smoked you have other issues and your high DPI will not save you from decent players in a cross fire.
2019-03-28 11:26
#86
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
You probably mentioned the easiest site to take with low sens, let's take A for example you are coming up from short you have to go site but pit behind you will be pretty hard ^^
2019-03-28 11:28
Thats what utility is for, eliminating angles, also even on about 512 EDPI the lowest ive used i could easily make that adjustment. Dupreeh is entry for Astralis, he play on about 720EDPI thats 240 below the pro average of 960, out of the top 20 players from 2018, 17 of them played at 880 or less.
2019-03-28 11:31
#94
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
Stooop, adding things like utility like god dam, you don't always have it , i mean i get your point but not every round you'll have full nades example, retaking a site as a ct on pistol. Also don't add astralis they are tooooo good thats cheating ;_;
2019-03-28 11:34
No not really, that makes no sense, Dupreeh plays CS just like me and you hes just better, if you dont have any nades you have a much deeper problem, you dont need high DPI to entry as has been proven by players playing entry on low DPI's, Rain has played entry for FaZe and in some parts of his career has been godly on entry and when the man is on form you cant stop him, he used about 790EDPI, lower than the pro average and lower than the top 20 average of 811.
2019-03-28 11:37
#98
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
I never said you "have" to have a high dpi to entry all my point was is first i don't know how people entry with low sens
2019-03-28 11:38
And i told you, crosshair placement and the fact that turning around even with 500edpi isnt that hard and if someone is behind you and they are even competent then youll be dead more often than not.
2019-03-28 11:41
also, for example 800 EDPI is like a half of the QCK+ mousepad to turn around, I don't see a problem with a quick 180.
2019-03-28 11:29
its not a quick 180 if you have to lift your mouse and put it back in the center of the pad before you can shoot.
2019-03-28 12:19
no, I don't lift my mouse after quick flicks, you can adjust later. Big mousepad and you just flick and shoot. Depends if you play with your wrist only or arm too.
2019-03-28 12:21
yeah and because of that you have to start putting your mouse right of the center of your pad because otherwise you bump into keyboard if you have to turn left quick and that makes your aim worse because your arm is not in the right position.
2019-03-28 12:29
and if someone peeks through the molly or runs through a smoke or anything happens you didnt predict you are dead.
2019-03-28 12:14
Not really you can still adjust, you act like on low sens you are glued to one angle, you arent at all, you just had to move your arm a bit more, its not an issue as someone who has used low senses for years.
2019-03-28 12:15
it depends on what you mean by having to move a bit more. if your sens is so low that you have to lift your mouse to turn 90 degrees, which is not that uncommon, then it is an issue if someone peeks at an angle you arent holding because you have to go to the edge of your mousepad or even lift to aim at the guy.
2019-03-28 12:18
even on 400 EDPI you dont need to lift your mouse to turn 90, that is uncommon. Also if people are constantly ending up behind you then theres other issues, there a reason that 17 out of the top 20 players from 2018 all used EDPI's lower than the pro average and more used EDPI's in the 500s than did in the 900s or 1000s, infact the best entry fragger in the world used an EDPI of 720, thats 240 below the average.
2019-03-28 12:21
we are not top players, what is the best sens for ppl with 20k hours, with a solid team, with structure and strats, is not whats best for you or me to win the games we play.
2019-03-28 12:27
also you cant call 1 guy "the best X in the world", its a team game, stats dont mean much, all those lists are just peoples opinion man. if you want lists go watch tennis.
2019-03-28 12:28
I remember you. You are the idiot with the M4A1. Yeah im going to stop you are really dense.
2019-03-28 12:29
in MM you can flash yourself out and run wide around corners just holding down A or D without stopping if someone is holding close with an awp or even m4. they just cant throw their mouse around fast enough to catch up with you because they all copy some ultra low sens pro settings but they dont have the required positioning teamwork and game sense to make low sens work. for most people who arent playing high level faceit or esea with a regular crew, low sens is a pretty bad idea imo.
2019-03-28 12:22
No, not at all, ive played low sens for years, you seem to think that low sens is like 250 EDPI its not. Even on 400EDPI you can trace corners without lifting your mouse easily.
2019-03-28 12:22
you can trace a corner for about 90 degrees and then you run out of mousepad and have to lift.
2019-03-28 12:23
No not at all unless you are on a EDPI that is about 300 EDPI, in the 500s you have plenty of coverage.
2019-03-28 12:24
not if you need to be able to turn around because nobody is covering their choke points and people are running all over the place. like lets say you are pushing A long, you smoke the cross, and a guy runs through the smoke and kills your teammate who is watching the smoke while you are pushing up ramp to site. with low sens, you cant turn and shoot at that guy without lifting your mouse. in mm and faceit, i cant assume that people are going to cover their shit. so i feel like you need to play high sens. if everyone had good communication and teamwork, it would be different. if i played with premade i could probably go lower.
2019-03-28 12:26
Even on 500EDPI you can still turn 180 very easily. Even if you have to lift you mouse its still worth the extra accuracy and as you can see the best players in the world agree, even when they are playing in tactically bad teams and the general high level player in MM agrees.
2019-03-28 12:28
there are no high level players in mm its just a bunch of throwers DINOSOWER kids and closet wallers.
2019-03-28 12:30
No, high level player in MM are globals, there are good in players in MM at the higher ranks, you just havent got there to notice them. Lower sens is better as it allows you to be more consistent and have finer control. The 180 turns arent an issue and i know this from playing 100 of not thousands of hours on DM with senses below 700.
2019-03-28 12:33
lol i stopped trying to get global solo queue. just for fun now, i sometimes click to spectate a random global game on gotv. on average i see 2-3 wallers, usually a guy with aimbot, and a couple dudes who are currently toggled off or boosted, running out on A long looking at the floor and panicking completely literally like a silver 4 if theres an enemy there because they dont have their wallhacks turned on
2019-03-28 12:33
as shit as this game and its community currently is the only way i can have any fun playing it is with high sens so i can turn around and shoot if we get flanked. it was better in 2015 2016. then people used their brains a bit and looked at the map. btw high sens doesnt make you less accurate if you just move your mouse slower. unpopular opinion i know.
2019-03-28 12:36
Yeah you dont get it at all. Ill make one last attempt to show you why lower sens makes you more accurate. Lets say you use 1400EDPI and let say with this a head represents and 1cm target on your mouse pad, (these arent exact numbers but it a demonstration), if you use 560 EDPI those heads will be 2.5cm on your mouse pad, they will represent and bigger area and therefore be easier to hit, its that simple. There a reason why out of the top 20 17 of them use 880 and below and more use in the 500s than then in the 1000s
2019-03-28 12:37
if you use higher sens then the area around you that you need to be able to accurately aim at is smaller. so everything inside that area can also be smaller, because you dont need to jerk your mouse around with 80km per hour to keep up with people who wide peek you. you will make smaller mistakes if you dont have to move your mouse very far. its a trade off. the fact that you dont even understand that its a trade off means you are the noob, not me.
2019-03-28 12:42
if what you say was true then there would be 0 pros with sens over 1000edpi and that isnt the case.
2019-03-28 12:43
No, i never said you couldnt get and be good on higher sens, but lower senses still tend to be better.
2019-03-28 13:24
no, I am using slightly higher sensitivity than him and I have no problem with turning around quickly.
2019-03-28 11:27
No thats not true, lower senses are more accurate as they basically gear down your movement, its mean you have to move a lot to get a smaller movement meaning its easier to be accurate as we arent machines we makes mistakes and a lot of them. Heres the best way to explain it, if you have a volume knob that for every 1mm went up 10% it would be a really issue to be accurate, now lets say it went up 5% for every 1mm, it will be much easier to more finely control the volume.
2019-03-28 11:34
#96
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
No, it's not more accurate it's whatever you prefer and get used to for example f0rest and s1mple crisp aim both high sens 3+. Niko and twistzz both crisp aim and 1.4 - 1.7 sens You do know the lower you sens is the more for example you'll have to pull down while spraying not everyone finds that good
2019-03-28 11:36
You dont understand the basic of the mechanics at play let me explain it to you differently and youll understand. On f0rests mouse pad a head will represent lets say a 1cm space (these arent real number but they demonstrate why lower sens is more accurate), on Nikos it will be 2.5cm, so someone head will represent an area that is 2.5 times bigger on his mouse pad, this means he can make a much greater mistake and still hit the head, it also allows much more fine control due to the same mechanics. Its like zooming in on a photo to edit it more finely.
2019-03-28 11:40
#104
Ale | 
Latvia denzyE 
I feel like you think am a gold nova or smth any way you got me confused at the maths part you win gg faceit.com/en/players/Leviii- anyway i have 4k hours i have a decent understanding ngl
2019-03-28 11:43
Its simple, theres a ratio of movement to do with you sens. F0rest has a sens that is 2.5 times higher than Nikos, so for every 1cm f0rest moves his hand Niko moves his hand 2.5cm to achieve the same degrees of turning in game. This mean on Nikos mouse pad the targets head represent a bigger area, in a sense Niko be setting his dpi lower has made peoples heads bigger as they represent a larger space on his mouse pad. Test it, go into an aim map and trace from one side of a models head to the other and measure it, then do it on half you EDPI and youll see its a bigger area on your mouse pad, making it easier to hit, making you more accurate, also giving you more margin for error.
2019-03-28 11:49
#229
allu | 
Sweden Aquaaaa 
Good explanation Sir
2019-03-28 15:34
if you have to make bigger movements, you will make bigger mistakes as well.
2019-03-28 12:15
No, humans actually tend to be more consistent at bigger movement, also its still not a really big movement you are moving you arm like 30cm, its no a lot. Its also making the head a larger area on the mouse pad and easier to hit, and on a higher sens any mistake you do make will be multiplied.
2019-03-28 12:18
id like to see some research papers for that assertion. it doesnt matter if you are making the head twice as big, if you have to move twice as far and you overshoot the center of the head by twice as much. then youre just slowing yourself down for no advantage. the point where this starts to happen differs for every person, which is why different people use different sensitivity. if this wasnt true then everyone would be using 200dpi on 2m x 1m mousepads. its typical low sens arrogance to just assume that you are the standard and there is no alternative.
2019-03-28 12:40
400dpi, 1.2 for me...
2019-03-28 11:26
I vary a little i used to play on around 1000, tried lower and liked it, lowest ive player is 512, currently on about 780 and ill probably stay at this as its really good for basically anything.
2019-03-28 11:28
8 years :D :D fucken retardo also doesnt matter what sens when it suits you and ur hs master ur good to go
2019-03-28 11:17
"so i knew what i said"
2019-03-28 11:21
#83
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
What's your point? Pace is decided on how you press W and shift.
2019-03-28 11:27
u are not that smart i see
2019-03-28 11:28
You don't even know what you are saying, it makes no sense
2019-03-28 11:30
#95
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Europe FaZeTop1_2019 
low sens, alpha sens
2019-03-28 11:36
I use low sens, I have big mouse-mat. Problemo solverino my friend.
2019-03-28 11:48
#112
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Russia QibyVGZEN 
400 dpi and 2 sense who i am? i am major champion.
2019-03-28 11:56
#227
allu | 
Sweden Aquaaaa 
devve
2019-03-28 15:32
#138
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Netherlands mikat 
1000 dpi 1.2 sens ez men 😎😎😎😎😎
2019-03-28 12:17
#141
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Russia xtkjdtr01 
8/8
2019-03-28 12:18
480 edpi, entry fragger here
2019-03-28 12:33
#174
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
Having fast sens is a disadvantage in today meta. New meta rely more on slow pace gameplay and calculated decisions so having fast sens is disadvantage because you cant play in slow pace Ps ive been playing this game for 8 years so i knew what i said
2019-03-28 12:48
#178
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Germany zeolikk 
Tell that to 90% of the pros
2019-03-28 12:50
expected from noscene pinoy
2019-03-28 12:53
High sens has a higher skill cap but it’s harder to use because you need to do really small aim adjustements sometimes and that’s easier to do with lower sens I’m not a pro but sounds logical
2019-03-28 12:57
#195
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Russia Islademuerto 
British Cocaine is a hell of a drug
2019-03-28 13:07
#197
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Czech Republic mitsorubi 
high sens masterrace
2019-03-28 13:08
the autismo that i got from the op is insane lul
2019-03-28 13:18
#203
Snax | 
Japan axe__ 
blamef 1.2 niko 1.4 ntnt
2019-03-28 13:20
#223
Luminous | 
Tunisia me_ 
simple 3,09.
2019-03-28 15:25
#233
Snax | 
Japan axe__ 
i didnt said player with high sens cant be good, i meant there is a lot good players with low sens
2019-03-28 16:08
#204
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
Pretty sure as long as you hit your shots doesn't matter what sens you use. Also, the meta in 2015 was also quite fast pug-like, not like it's the first time
2019-03-28 13:20
I found the retard.
2019-03-28 14:38
s1mple: 400 DPI - 3.09 in-game devve: 400 DPI - 2 in-game nt
2019-03-28 15:29
#225
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Spain thebest5 
+1
2019-03-28 15:29
#226
allu | 
Sweden Aquaaaa 
400dpi 1.2 Why you bully me???!?!?!?!
2019-03-28 15:31
niko, twistzz, sergej all use low sens
2019-03-28 15:32
0/8 600 dpi 3.2 sens global, gc lvl 20, and i dont miss one fucking flickshot
2019-03-28 15:40
But this very high sens and OP is talking about low sens.
2019-03-28 19:19
hmm yeah ty bro, the OP is right high sense gave u many advantages
2019-03-28 20:02
if in 8 years playing you have not achieved anything is that you do not know what you say xd
2019-03-28 15:41
I play CS for 12 years and i can tell you that you should not use too high and too low.... Something between 2-2.5... I agree that are good players with other values but very few..
2019-03-28 18:59
Exactly
2019-03-28 19:00
If you assume that you can be as precise with high sens as you can be with low sens, then yes high sens is a mechanical advantage. This thread is arguing that the assumption is incorrect, that it isnt possible to be as precise using high sens as you are using low sens. But I think they are underestimating the power of training.
2019-03-28 19:17
bad bait
2019-03-28 19:18
#243
huNter | 
France HYPNO5 
low sens isnt slower than high sens rofl ur stupid
2019-03-28 20:05
#246
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Estonia u3ffe 
Why pick low or high? Just pick average, but more important is how you feel the game itself, you can start with the high sensitivity, but slowly decrease it, it happened to me at the beginning, now I play 400dpi 1000hz 2.8 sens in-game 6/11
2019-03-28 23:08
that's why philipne don't have a scene
2019-03-28 23:22
0.75 sens 400 dpi 1.8 zoom 5/11 windows raw input off 225 edpi I play just fine.
2019-03-29 08:41
Only wrist player era is here
2019-03-29 08:45
#256
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Germany staxie 
I play 1.7 sense on 400 dpi and that's just fine Just because you play low sense it doesn't mean that you cant play a fast paced game... You just have to move your arm faster and more.... For example the Top 5 Players Sensitivites: 1. s1mple 400 dpi 3.09 (medium/high) 2. device 400 dpi 2.00 (low) 3. NiKo 400 dpi 1.40 (low/very low) 4. electronic 400 dpi 2.20 (medium) 5. dupreeh 400 dpi 1.80 (low) 10. coldzera (arguably one of the best players to ever touch the game) 800 dpi 1.10 --> 400 dpi 2.20 (medium) Olofmeister (also one of the best) 400 dpi 1.70 (low) So yeah the god himself plays medium to high sense but thats just one and it still depends on individual style.. Also if you play smart you outplay instead of outaim them and thats way better.. So my conclusion fuck this all and just play the sense you feel comfortable with
2019-03-29 09:10
Low sens is for players with no skill :) Cant turn? Cant aim? need steady aim whit low sense so opponent runs to your crosshair? use 0.5 sens NO! set sens to 2 and just boom hs everyone 360, 180 your choice.
2019-03-29 09:16
The average pro in the top 20 plays about 811. And more play in the 500s than in the 1000s so you basically just spewed nothing but shit.
2019-03-29 09:18
what you mean with 811 500 or 1000? because i was talking about sensitivity
2019-03-29 09:20
Clearly EDPI. 811 is actually below the pro average of 960.
2019-03-29 09:23
u mom gay (just as relevant comment as yours) lol
2019-03-29 09:25
You really are a moron.
2019-03-29 09:26
like you mom
2019-03-29 09:27
#277
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Estonia Mrkruvi 
How many comments have u made on this thread wtf
2019-03-29 10:52
400dpi 1.3 sens 1.1 zoom sens Im fine.
2019-03-29 09:28
#273
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Denmark bjerkee 
Tell that to Niko, Guardian, Twistzz, Dupreeh etc... you're probably still playing mm after 8 years. CSGO is not fast paced for all teams, it really depends on the teams, a team like navi plays really slow meanwhile other teams play it fast. you're obviously delusional and don't know what you talkin bout.
2019-03-29 10:33
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