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Sunny?
Aleksib | 
Finland OldGuy 
Where is Sunny going as C9 is closed? Pls no HR
2019-03-27 15:02
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#1
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Mongolia FoxOutOfGlocks 
he go to ajuri
2019-03-27 15:03
#2
autist | 
Austria SNOOBYYY 
no its raining here, not sunny
2019-03-27 15:03
Idk. I see golden chain in sky
2019-03-29 17:09
#3
adreN | 
Cyprus Galaxy322 
I think he failed to sign with C9 tho
2019-03-27 15:03
Nah C9 is indeed "closed"
2019-03-27 15:04
#11
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Finland SininenMF 
Guessing mouse had too high buyout on the contract
2019-03-27 15:19
And i feel like he wouldnt like to move to murica
2019-03-28 11:03
FAZE
2019-03-27 15:07
#6
Aleksib | 
Finland OldGuy 
Just tought of that fans want rain out of faZe. Ropz also needs better team. So think about if these would form new team? suNny rain ropz Who 2 players would make this lineup perfect bc these 3 would be amazing start
2019-03-27 15:13
Hampus? Honestly not many igls around anymore
2019-03-27 15:24
would be perfect, new young blood with nothing to loose NiKo ropz to lurk sunny and rain alternate entry and rain would have freedom again IGL i'd go for chrisJ as he knows how to work with ropz and sunny, karrigan and chrisJ wont work out well
2019-03-27 15:28
#21
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Finland Faust_fSt 
"new young blood with nothing to loose" "NiKo ropz to lurk sunny and rain alternate entry and rain would have freedom again IGL i'd go for chrisJ" ok buddy
2019-03-27 15:31
#119
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Germany staxie 
and NiKo as support then?
2019-03-29 08:53
chris support igl. its not like support only has to support. it doesnt work liek that. what is to support? throwing flashes and baiting? thats not support
2019-03-29 13:57
#16
NiKo | 
Finland FocusMen 
lol rain is coming back so he will stay at FaZe
2019-03-27 15:28
#24
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Sweden RaketHopp 
faze doesnt want to spend any money rn from what ive heard
2019-03-27 15:40
With money spending you mean what?
2019-03-29 08:24
#134
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Sweden RaketHopp 
they dont want to buy out players. Atm they will try out adren for a while
2019-03-29 19:20
Ahh roger. Dunno how player changes go in cs. Thought they could just kick rain out 😅
2019-03-31 23:04
they will eventually, ynk said theyre looking for igl
2019-03-29 13:58
#135
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Sweden RaketHopp 
yes ofc eventually but rn they test current lineup
2019-03-29 19:20
#53
Aleksib | 
Finland MorstB 
joink chris or karrigan from mouz and take styko
2019-03-27 18:29
#113
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Germany Fabbsen 
Hope Styko finds a good time soon. I like NoChance but without Frozen there he is stuck in that team.
2019-03-28 19:12
faze should just -London +Gran Canaria
2019-03-27 18:42
Can he just replace someone from ence like x7 he's finnish
2019-03-27 15:15
#13
Aleksib | 
Finland OldGuy 
Really hope this is not happening. Ence lineup is good as it is right now. They are 3th ranked team and able to compete with top tier teams. xSeven is playing rather well and won multiple important rounds. Don't really see sunny replacing him. Different roles.
2019-03-27 15:23
#17
NiKo | 
Finland FocusMen 
+1
2019-03-27 15:28
#54
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Skill can compensate for roles at times. Sunny could move to a more aggressive entry role and sergej could be a bit more supportive and play the late rounds. Keep aerial and allu comofrtable as long as sunny is willing to adapt to the system there shouldnt be much of an issue its purely a skill upgrade and hes literally the best finnish player.
2019-03-27 18:29
#77
Aleksib | 
Finland OldGuy 
suNny might best individual finnish player. However, this is still team game. Just compare navi vs astralis. So I still don’t get why they should change the lineup at least as you said. Too big changes as it is not only -player +player trade but also role mix. xseven has also shown that he has skills to be the playmaker from time to time.
2019-03-27 21:09
#78
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
If they have the option to talk to sunny they should be talking to sunny, obviously I think this lineup should be given more time to see if it was an over performance or if they can be consistent top 5. But I'm sure sunny would like to play in a finnish team and I'm sure room could be made for a player who is amazing individually and is known to have a good attitude and has never had any personal issues
2019-03-27 21:16
For the last sentence yeah Sunny is great guy and has pretty good skills also. I think he was something like 16th ranked player in 2018 and would surely like to play in Finnish team. As you said we need to give ENCE time before taking actions regarding lineup chance. ATM ENCE looks really good. In Blast they really put up a fight against liquid and astralis and others also that they won. Between major and Blast pro they have only lost meaningless online matches against lower tier-teams in series that they weren't able to play in Finals anyways and no chance to obtain invitation to higher leagues or tournaments. So obviously they didn't want to show new tacs or best form and didn't even have motivation to truly put up fights in those matches.
2019-03-29 08:32
#127
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Well see if their form is true at starladder bro. But if they had the option to pick up sunny and didnt I guarantee they regret it unless they become the next era defining team.
2019-03-29 17:06
Out of all the people you chose x7. The main carry for ENCE. Also x7 is support
2019-03-27 15:41
#56
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
"The main carry" "X7 is support" Obvuously not then. X7 was literally their best player by a fractional margain for one series. Hes not their carry he doesnt have the most kills or impact hes just a solid support player.
2019-03-27 18:31
#67
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
a support can be a carry tho
2019-03-27 19:32
#73
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
rare af
2019-03-27 20:43
#79
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Usually when the support is carrying the team isnt structured properly or players in star roles are underperforming. And support players never carry over extended periods of time. I cant think of any top teams where the support player has been the best performing member and up until the major x7 wasnt.
2019-03-27 21:21
#83
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
coldzera , youre welcome
2019-03-27 23:38
#87
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
So you really think coldzera was the support? Hes the one being set up to close out rounds, secondary AWPing. He gets the spots he wants and is able to rotate and has players get info for him. Meanwhile Taco is the one who has to entry in mid round situations and has to set up cold. Taco is the one who has to play solo sites and delay and play 1v3s all the time. Taco is the real support. The only sense that cold was a support player was the way they played pistol rounds (he sometimes bought utility) and the fact that hes a passive player. His role and xyp9x's roles are much different and rely and very different methods of play. Cold is being set up to close out rounds while xyp9x is alive in the mid to late round to assist device. It's not like cold is an excellent utility player either like xyp9x or gob b. And when Taco wasnt there they just used tarik and fer even more that's why they suffered so much, because that role is incredibly difficult and annoying to play, enhanced by the fact that they werent winning.
2019-03-28 01:22
#90
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
twitter.com/tacocs/status/80787245195888.. "Taco is the real support." "Taco is the one who has to entry in mid round situations" So TACO isn't the support then.
2019-03-28 01:34
#92
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Doesnt change what I said? Coldzera is the center point of the team, xyp9x isnt and xyp9x's role is to set up the entry players and stars while coldzera is the star who is set up. That's also why I mentioned pistol rounds if you bothered to read the comment instead of just instaposting the tweet like an angry dweeb :) Uhm yes support players do entry some times that's why I specified mid round situations when the true entries are dead because they usually die early into the round due to positioning or a half execute.
2019-03-28 01:38
#95
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
TACO doesn't only mention pistol rounds, he ltierally says "coldzera is our support." You think I'm gonna trust some random idiot on the internet over TACO who was a part of the team when coldzera was carrying?
2019-03-28 02:24
#128
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
You think theres only one type of support or are you incapable of reading? It literally doesnt matter if hes deemed the support, what matters is what job the support has. Coldzera is set up to close out rounds for the team and gets all his spots. Therefore he is the focal point of the team. Some teams have star entry fraggers, see xantares or apex. Some teams have star AWPers, see KennyS or guardian historically. If you truly believe that coldzera was a supportive element in SK/LG/MiBR then you clearly dont understand team structure. Tell me what supportive traits does cold have as a player because stylistically hes nothing at all like the true supports, styko, old krimz, xyp9x.
2019-03-29 17:14
Imagine thinking there are set roles in CS.
2019-03-29 17:37
#133
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Quote where I said there were set roles in CS. I clearly said that there are different types of support players. You delusional buddy?
2019-03-29 18:36
You think teams have designated support players?
2019-03-29 20:16
#137
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
If pro players make tweets such as "x player is our support" then yes I think teams have roles and players have either more passive or more aggressive assignments on a team, I mean you're either AWPing, entrying, lurking, or setting up an execute/map control on T side (supports and IGLs), theres only so many things you can be doing and players usually prefer doing one of those things. Support is also defined by how much freedom you have, despite that coldzera is a support he us allowed to rotate what part of the map he plays on T side because it is not his job to take map control, hes also allowed to secondary AWP which nets kills due to his skill and gets the CT spots where hes comfortable as opposed to Taco who is always holding a part of the map (squeaky, palace) and always taking early contact. Usually the focus of the team is just the player with the highest overall skill level. Hence why I said there are star awpers, entries, lurks, and supports. Teams do have structure and teams do focus on enabling certain players on their teams based on their strengths and that is a fact. No one would consider Taco a great aimer, but he knows the game very well, has good utility usage, and great comms, and theres a role for that. Also if you consider coldzera the support then they have entry/2nd entry/lurk/igl(awp)/support So no player is the star player? The centerpiece of the team? Every team has a centerpiece or duo that they focus on enabling.
2019-03-29 21:29
Sorry, don't have time to read paragraphs of bullshit.
2019-03-29 21:36
#139
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
That's code for "I have no counterarguments but have too big of an ego to admit I was wrong," Thanks for trying :)
2019-03-29 22:43
Xyp9x carries Astralis from time to time, yet Astralis are the most dominant team to ever play cs
2019-03-28 01:40
#94
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Not the point at all please read #79
2019-03-28 01:40
Ever since the year started xsevwn downloaded hacks and just has been crazy overrall
2019-03-27 20:41
#81
Brehze | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Hes been decent. Ence has been winning through tactics and fundamentals, not by crazy fragging. No one on Ence has been exceptional but statistically sergej has been their best player this year.
2019-03-27 21:29
X7 playing pretty good atm
2019-03-27 18:31
xseveN is among the best supports in the game rn, almost Xyp9x level support
2019-03-28 01:36
x7 is good, I think the weakest link in ENCE is Aerial and even he is not bad
2019-03-28 11:07
#130
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
+1, Aerial is the only player Sunny would even be eligible to swap into, since they are both entry's. But I wouldn't switch just yet, I think Jussilas Jani has more to show on this scene.
2019-03-29 17:35
nice internet
2019-03-28 11:07
nice internet
2019-03-28 11:07
he is joining my team
2019-03-27 15:17
nt prokda
2019-03-27 17:07
wtf, im not lockerboi
2019-03-27 17:52
probably going nowhere anytime soon... maybe replacing chrisJ/woxic in mouz in the next months
2019-03-27 15:18
#10
Zeus | 
Israel Gigska 
he baiting to ence)
2019-03-27 15:19
#12
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United Kingdom oyyrofl 
Sunny to ence
2019-03-27 15:20
#18
NiKo | 
Finland FocusMen 
pls no
2019-03-27 15:29
#19
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United Kingdom oyyrofl 
Pls yes, theres no better teams he could go to anyway
2019-03-27 15:33
#42
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
would ruin ence
2019-03-27 17:19
#43
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United Kingdom oyyrofl 
I think it would be upgrade and within time they would make it work
2019-03-27 17:22
#44
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
ence wont change their roster
2019-03-27 17:24
#47
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United Kingdom oyyrofl 
Lets see
2019-03-27 17:27
sunny to virima
2019-03-27 15:30
-rain +sunny to FaZe
2019-03-27 15:33
very likely FaZe
2019-03-27 15:38
#26
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China KoreanFan 
ENCE?
2019-03-27 15:42
Well he Will not join a team at least before Sumner break when the pre major shuffle begins.
2019-03-27 15:47
#32
Aleksib | 
Finland OldGuy 
is premajor shuffle a thing? what the fuck XD Changing players is so fucking NA. If you have lineup that works well together even tho they might have few bad result player change is not a good option.
2019-03-27 15:56
#28
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Finland santedek 
faze
2019-03-27 15:50
#30
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United States Koosh34 
he will go to ence. Just wait for them to fail at shanghai and they will sign him. Allu already said he wants him.
2019-03-27 15:51
Too bad ence gonna win there
2019-03-27 16:55
Would like to see him take frozen's position in mouz - to be honest. But ropz is now playing a lot better since he has taken Sunny's role so the dynamic may need to be changed up a little.
2019-03-27 15:51
why replace frozen? replace chrisJ or woxic if he fails to adapt and let chris awp. frozen gonna be a beast
2019-03-27 17:04
Woxic is hands down a better player than Frozen - he is also the main awp. ChrisJ is vital as 2nd awp and IGL. Ropz, Sunny and Frozen all play roughly the same role and out of the three of them Frozen is the weakest.
2019-03-27 19:30
#107
stinx | 
Czech Republic Alsak 
let's see
2019-03-28 11:14
have to replace karrigun
2019-03-28 15:35
#33
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Brazil Leexo 
Faze
2019-03-27 16:52
#35
stinx | 
Czech Republic Alsak 
here in Pardubice is usually sunny
2019-03-27 17:01
nt svitavy
2019-03-29 14:02
#36
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Belarus Polotsk 
He joins ENCE
2019-03-27 17:01
He's joining the best Finnish team ever called VIRIMA
2019-03-27 17:02
#40
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Finland hltv_b8r 
gonna replace adren in faze
2019-03-27 17:11
This one would actually make sense
2019-03-27 18:24
Sunny would bring such fresh air to the team, too bad i guess faze just like to be t2
2019-03-28 11:08
minttu
2019-03-27 17:12
#45
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Hopefully faze
2019-03-27 17:25
Sunny overrated af, my guess he gonna join optic.
2019-03-27 17:27
#61
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Finland santedek 
literally he was only reason with ropz why mouz was top 5 team and he is overrated?
2019-03-27 18:39
#68
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Czech Republic mOrOkura 
That was at least a year ago, he performed pretty poorly since then.
2019-03-27 19:37
#71
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Finland santedek 
esl one new york hello?
2019-03-27 20:19
lol he was still mouz's best player, stop being an hypocrit cunt just because he left your team
2019-03-27 21:04
#84
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Czech Republic mOrOkura 
Yes, he was the best player 9-12 months ago man. Ropz and Sunny dropped down a lot, I watched almost every mouz game and he definitely wasn't the best player.
2019-03-27 23:43
so who was? Yeah right
2019-03-28 00:38
suNny & oskar if you look at the last 12 months before disband, first half goes to oskar, second to suNny
2019-03-28 01:26
so whats your point? Youre proving yourself than he isnt overrated and was still carrying mouz even in hard times, I dont see why you keep arguing thats all I wanted to see
2019-03-28 10:52
My point is: i agree with you and disagree with the other czech user, Sir.
2019-03-28 10:53
ho shit I thought it was the same person, apologize lol
2019-03-28 10:57
#112
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Czech Republic mOrOkura 
2019-03-28 19:07
lol using thorin as an argument, thanks for ending it there I won that shit
2019-03-28 20:07
#48
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France DobliiX 
join scream ex6 smooya hs probably
2019-03-27 17:39
#51
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Dogehino 
FaZe. I hope
2019-03-27 18:26
#52
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Brazil NIKOLD 
maybe faze or he will probably just wait it out
2019-03-27 18:26
#55
Aleksib | 
Finland MorstB 
superjymy
2019-03-27 18:30
trash player
2019-03-27 18:32
#59
device | 
Asia Korajon 
hes going to factory bro
2019-03-27 18:42
people saying he joins ence what drugs are you on ?
2019-03-27 18:37
#62
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Spain Crusher_ 
Havu
2019-03-27 18:40
hav
2019-03-27 18:42
FaZe, fnatic or coL
2019-03-27 18:45
#69
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Finland retku 
SuperJymy suNny..... Seriously i think suNny is replacing someone in faze...maybe AdreN?? olof??
2019-03-27 19:41
It's pretty cloudy here
2019-03-27 21:00
Best would be faze or fnatic if they finally decide to kick xizt and bench jw but those shuffle are just fucked up so we never know
2019-03-27 21:03
#80
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New Zealand Eauor 
I hate it when moves get teased so heavily, then they just go silent for months. FaZe ALWAYS do this, its so frustrating, AdreN literally tweeted after the major - "My fate in FaZe will be decided in the next few days"... then they go onto saying and doing nothing.
2019-03-27 21:23
theyre probably teasing just for a bad move that wont change shit with that, like after karrigan's kick most people expected some insane shuffle like a faze s1mple because theyve been underwhelming for a while and they didnt do shit
2019-03-28 00:40
#82
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CIS chlenixon 
HR.kz Soon.
2019-03-27 21:50
#88
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Lithuania arres 
I hope ence
2019-03-28 01:25
But why mens
2019-03-28 02:48
#99
Poland xBG1 
HR? Uruguay? New team with HS?
2019-03-28 10:54
#105
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Europe jvesper 
sunny will go to work in kesko service desk
2019-03-28 11:07
Sunny to faze for adren and -Olof for flusha or valde too
2019-03-28 15:37
I think he's probably staying where he is for a while, on the bench. You never know, karrigan may need a piece of firepower to use and bring him back, like he did with kioshima in faze. I think the org will be keeping him, just in case (for now)
2019-03-28 15:38
I also hope not HR, despite having sick players they are average so far, I think they are lacking in the tactical department
2019-03-28 15:41
Sunny for nyyrikki is almost confirmed, probably next week since its friday
2019-03-29 08:47
#118
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Norway PeteZz 
Sunny to Cloud9. Now they just be called 9.
2019-03-29 08:49
#120
twenty3 | 
Faroe Islands sGaen 
superjymy
2019-03-29 08:57
:D watch ENCE interview in blast pro where they received the rating cards. Frank asks if there are any other upcoming Finnish rosters and allu silently says superjymy and everyone just bursts into laughter.
2019-03-29 11:19
faze or he will stay a bit longer on the bench imho
2019-03-29 14:03
#132
MINISE | 
Europe Cirro 
if faze will not pick him they are even more stupid then they already are
2019-03-29 17:45
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