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Croatia ^BCko^ 
I guess it's officialy over now, we aren't even allowed to discuss cheating on pro level anymore because current admin logic is "admin standing behind players means it's impossible to cheat". How the fuck can you censor someone's opinion when it doesn't break any rules of the fucking forum, not like we're talking about censoring racist words or something. It's completely wrong to not let people discuss a certain subject, especially when you have absolutely no knowledge on it. It has been confirmed by many professionals that cheat coders will always be one step ahead of anti-cheat teams, just take f0rsaken for example, he was able to cheat on lan undetectably without admins who were standing behind him noticing anything, and he was using a 50€ public cheat, makes you think what thousands of dollars private builds are actually worth. At this point, the cheating on semi-pro/pro level comes only to the moral of the players, and saying no pro/semi-pro cheats is the same as saying every single pro/semi-pro player cheats - it's ridiculous.
2019-04-03 08:10
Stfu bcko jonathan rekted you and you looks like fucking sing sing
2019-04-03 08:11
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
Jonathan is usually fair and open minded, i was banned for 10 years and got unbanned. It's just completely insane mods started deleting threads that go against their own personal opinion, we used to be able to discuss anything on hltv that didn't break the forum rules such as racism, gambling sites etc. Also no, I am now a gentleman intellectual:
2019-04-03 08:14
Ofc it's the useless admin named dimitrii once again. Jonathan is reasonable tho
2019-04-03 08:14
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
Yup, probably got the admin job by being someone's sibling or something.
2019-04-03 08:15
2019-04-03 08:16
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
No thanks, my eyes are bigger.
2019-04-03 08:17
Denmark Twick_ 
@dimitrii get him
2019-04-03 19:10
I agree with you. Have you seen that b0rup's aimlock clip a few days ago?
2019-04-03 08:19
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
Yeah i did, pretty sketchy but could be explained by having rawinput 0 and pressing tab+moving crosshair, even thoughthat's very unlikely.
2019-04-03 08:21
Exactly what I thought. But if that actually happened by mistake, which is really unlikely, then he should go to the lottery and try his luck.
2019-04-03 08:25
Denmark MeToxi 
tbh, thats like saying that he is very lucky that he won the lottery even though he bought several million lottery tickets.
2019-04-03 12:58
He didn't aimlocked the wall several times though.
2019-04-03 18:52
Denmark MeToxi 
Woah, I just met omniscient god!
2019-04-03 18:57
Denmark MeToxi 
Btw, you basically just unwittingly confirmed my analogy
2019-04-03 18:59
Can you link me that clip by reply or dm?
2019-04-03 21:59
"It's completely wrong to not let people discuss a certain subject, especially when you have absolutely no knowledge on it" This is why they wont let you talk about pros cheating you moron. Because you don't have any knowledge about that nor the experience of cheating on pro level. Keep your assumptions and conspiracy theories for yourself and go to reddit so hltv will get better without you. /close
2019-04-03 08:47
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
I do have decent ammount of information on high level cheats to know it's definitely possible to cheat on high tier lan tournaments, by claiming otherwise you are literally proving you have absolutely no knowledge on the subject.
2019-04-03 09:00
And we just went nowhere. Nobody can take you serious after your last bait thread about simple "cheating" vs nip on nuke lmao. Keep believing in your flying unicorns, thats completly fine. Im happy that your shitty threads will be deleted :) Cya hopefully never o/
2019-04-03 09:10
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
Well i don't expect a random nonamer with 500 hours in CS to understand what i'm talking about, keep being delusional and believing things you WANT to believe, i'm sure you'll go far in life with that mentality.
2019-04-03 09:15
"Well i don't expect a random nonamer with 500 hours in CS to understand what i'm talking about, keep being delusional and believing things you WANT to believe, i'm sure you'll go far in life with that mentality." You're making things up. Stop using ad homs when discussing with others and you might actually get a point across :)
2019-04-03 09:19
He wont get it anyways. Pretty sad he wasted few thousands hours for that ;D
2019-04-03 09:21
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
Am i lying? Aren't you a casual mm player with couple of hundrets of hours in this game?
2019-04-03 09:23
It's not a matter of lying or not. You assume something about him without any proof to back it up. When talking to someone, never direct your attention to who you are talking to. Focus on their arguments.
2019-04-03 09:26
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
But an argument of "no pros cheat" can only be said by someone who doesn't have basic knowledge on the subject. Saying not a single pro player cheats is same as saying every pro players cheats, you cannot make such a stupid claim.
2019-04-03 09:28
The burden of proof lies with the person who makes the claim. Innocent until proven guilty, right?
2019-04-03 09:29
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
You're implying i'm posting clips of "sketchy" things and demand said players get banned for cheating based on those?
2019-04-03 09:31
Where am I implying such a thing? I simply said innocent until proven guilty.
2019-04-03 10:15
1. You're a random nonamer aswell, sadly for you, you just wasted like 10k hours? 2. Everyone believe in things that we want to believe. Even you with your shitty cheating accusations. 3. Hf losing your mind one day :)
2019-04-03 09:27
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
You are basically admitting you don't want to "think" because it's your own choice to do so? Why not? Would you rather lie to yourself than face the facts and maybe spend some time looking into things?
2019-04-03 09:29
2019-04-03 10:50
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
And nobody is saying one, two clips make a certain player guilty of cheating. I'm saying it should be looked into and if you're educated on the subject, it's a known fact that it's definitely possible to cheat even on top level of CS, therefore we shouldn't censor such discussions even if there's 5% chance of a certain someone cheating.
2019-04-03 10:52
Obviously you can cheat on a pro level. I agree with that. But i wouldn't make a judge based on some clips. Sadly or not, we need something more that that to make a step towards banning them. Pros from all around the world might have best coders possible (besides forsaken because lol, it was worse than a kid with free cheat) but im sure valve and others are trying their best to avoid cheating on top level. This is why i would rather wait for something to happend.
2019-04-03 11:02
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
If we're as a community ignoring the cheating problem, Valve has no need to do something, do they? They will make money with players' popularity rising. Isn't it crazy that still at this point in 2019, the players even on major tournaments get to bring their own fucking peripherals?
2019-04-03 11:27
If valve would not give a fuck or they will try to cover it... bro. Csgo is dead, valve is fucked and it will be the best that could happend for like epic games store because steam would also lose a lot. But yea, organizators should give them new gear.. it would cost nothing. BUT fhere would be some people that will go with their conspiracy theories about how coders have accest to these gears before players etc etc... it will never end
2019-04-03 12:50
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
Not really, myself and most of the community that was trying to spread the truth for like past 4,5 years since the beggining wanted to see players get new peripherals at these events.
2019-04-03 13:17
Nah reddit is way worse, hltv admins are pc now
2019-04-03 09:03
Lost all respect to Jonathan
2019-04-03 09:03
2019-04-03 09:50
rip :/
2019-04-03 09:16
Belgium HLTVnewfag 
2019-04-03 09:17
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Myanmar xdcc 
Nice forsaken example. The guy can't keep getting away with cheating! Oh, wait..
2019-04-03 10:17
Netherlands NELK 
Dude that's old news, the fact that all "hltv" users say flair, which is a fucking Reddit thing
2019-04-03 10:55
Japan @0x0 
+1 this site shouldve closed registration after the one millionth account
2019-04-03 11:57
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France VitaIity 
Spreading rumours and accusations about pro players with no proof is indeed wrong behaviour. Saying that you have high knowledge of cheating in the pro scene doesn’t back anything up.
2019-04-03 11:42
Denmark MeToxi 
2019-04-03 13:04
World ///fuck 
Take off your tinfoil hat
2019-04-03 12:57
India Noobdian1 
Okay Mr Admins 1.Forsaken was caught cheating on LAN. This could mean that there are other pros cheating who just haven't been caught. 2. forsaken would have been caught either if he didn't hesitate so much. Regards Noobdian1
2019-04-03 18:56
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Croatia ^BCko^ 
He got caught cause he was using a cheap 50€ cheat he literally downloaded from the internet, and he didn't even get caught physichally cheating by an admin, admins couldn't realise he was cheating even though his aimbot was shit and obvious as fuck, how would the admins realise someone was cheating with actually well set up cheat rofl
2019-04-03 19:01
India Noobdian1 
"how would the admins realise someone was cheating with actually well set up cheat rofl" Yeah that's what some pros might have well set cheats
2019-04-03 19:08
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