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bo5 final
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Norway LoganCappuccino 
It lasts to long and is boring to watch if the match isn’t close why they chose to go for this format that all other organizations rejected?
2019-04-07 13:14
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+1 If you love watching bo5
2019-04-07 13:14
+1
2019-04-07 13:15
+1
2019-04-07 13:15
#4
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Slovakia misoS 
+1
2019-04-07 13:15
+1
2019-04-07 13:16
#7
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Georgia Khachapuri 
+1
2019-04-07 13:16
#9
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Sweden mrnotgay 
+1
2019-04-07 13:17
+1
2019-04-07 13:18
#14
stinx | 
Czech Republic stinx 
+1
2019-04-07 13:19
#17
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Germany polycarp 
+1
2019-04-07 13:20
+1
2019-04-07 13:20
+1
2019-04-07 13:20
#23
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Netherlands toothpaste 
+2 Haha I wrote 2 instead of 1 that means I don't love watching bo5
2019-04-07 13:22
#46
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Chile Lionel_Hutz 
Haha Got'em
2019-04-07 13:33
#119
RpK | 
France KepleR82b 
IQ explosion
2019-04-07 16:18
+1
2019-04-07 13:22
#32
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Finland Maestroffi 
+1
2019-04-07 13:24
-1
2019-04-07 13:25
-1
2019-04-08 06:24
#36
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Ukraine mortydefiled 
+1
2019-04-07 13:26
#45
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2019-04-07 13:33
+1
2019-04-07 13:33
+1
2019-04-07 13:34
#50
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1 only kids with severe attention problems thinks Bo5's are boring.
2019-04-07 13:34
#83
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Iceland fatboislim 
well atleast in this case the bo5 is boring as hell, since fnatic is so much worse than navi.
2019-04-07 14:11
#100
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Denmark Xipingu 
All 3 maps went to double digits for fnatic and most rounds were heavily contested. If that’s boring to you, I’d say you are watching the wrong game sir
2019-04-07 14:52
#104
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Germany Fabbsen 
True
2019-04-07 14:54
#107
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Denmark Xipingu 
+1
2019-04-07 15:20
#111
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Germany Fabbsen 
I bet the FaZe Astralis final at Sydney was boring as hell for them aswell. I mean easy 3-0 for them right? :D
2019-04-07 16:09
#136
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Denmark Xipingu 
Extremely easy :D totally a 16-2 x3. LUL Nobody I know thought that final was boring, and it’s baffling to me people think a final that is similar is boring too, that’s just dumb lol +1 again :D
2019-04-07 16:35
#138
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Germany Fabbsen 
One of the best i've seen tbh. The 11-0 loss was a bit frustrating but still really cool overall.
2019-04-07 16:39
#167
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah me too :]
2019-04-07 19:56
#105
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Iceland fatboislim 
every second half of the maps were dominated by navi nothing interesting there
2019-04-07 14:54
#106
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Denmark Xipingu 
Aha. Wrong game then
2019-04-07 15:20
#110
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Iceland fatboislim 
you got the wrong game?
2019-04-07 16:09
#133
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Denmark Xipingu 
No u
2019-04-07 16:33
#163
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Iceland fatboislim 
9-5 9-3 9-2 all the second halfs.
2019-04-07 18:47
I was gonna stay up to 2 but then saw bo5 and went to bed
2019-04-07 20:03
#176
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Denmark Xipingu 
Still wasn’t boring.
2019-04-08 06:02
#192
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Iceland fatboislim 
yes it was
2019-04-08 07:40
#193
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Denmark Xipingu 
Lmao
2019-04-08 07:56
#204
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Iceland fatboislim 
rofl
2019-04-08 08:32
Fnatic kept it close in the first half it was just the second half where NaVi kept showing such dominance. Personally it wasn't that bad.
2019-04-08 06:24
+1
2019-04-07 13:47
+1
2019-04-07 13:48
+1
2019-04-07 13:48
#61
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Europe monkii_x) 
+1
2019-04-07 13:48
#68
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India Tritium 
+1
2019-04-07 13:57
+1
2019-04-07 14:02
#79
Australia BCP 
+1
2019-04-07 14:07
+1 holly fuck i havent seen so much +1's in my life
2019-04-07 14:11
+1
2019-04-07 15:37
#112
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India Tritium 
+1
2019-04-07 16:10
#150
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Norway k3ron 
+1
2019-04-07 17:00
+1
2019-04-07 14:23
+1
2019-04-07 14:23
+1
2019-04-07 14:41
+1
2019-04-07 14:41
#93
TenZ | 
Norway OrBN 
+1
2019-04-07 14:47
#94
chrisJ | 
Ireland suop 
+1, without it mouz vs liquid new york wouldve never happened
2019-04-07 14:48
The same could have still happened, since mouz would win cache, liquid would win nuke, and then mouz would win mirage (probably).
2019-04-07 16:35
#143
chrisJ | 
Ireland suop 
well yeah but it wouldnt have been as good, and chris's ace wouldnt have happened seeing it was map 5
2019-04-07 16:48
#98
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Denmark devnr1 
+1
2019-04-07 14:49
#102
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Armenia KKegham 
+1 Only if it's on a day on it's own it is fun to watch.
2019-04-07 14:53
#108
rain | 
France HYPNO5 
+1
2019-04-07 15:21
+1 but today we got bo3 sadly
2019-04-07 16:12
+1
2019-04-07 16:12
#116
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Germany nilssonxdd 
+1
2019-04-07 16:14
+1
2019-04-07 16:14
+1
2019-04-07 16:19
#121
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Sweden xtoySzy123 
+1
2019-04-07 16:21
#126
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Portugal DeadShotCS 
+1
2019-04-07 16:27
+1
2019-04-07 16:31
+1
2019-04-07 16:35
+1
2019-04-07 16:41
#144
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United States Project|7 
+1
2019-04-07 16:48
#149
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Indonesia NRG_Edward91 
+1
2019-04-07 16:57
#151
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Palestine Xpicyy 
+1 bo3 is nothing special
2019-04-07 17:00
#152
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Romania qAp 
+1
2019-04-07 17:01
+1
2019-04-07 17:01
+1
2019-04-07 17:02
#156
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Europe erhansol 
+1
2019-04-07 17:02
+1
2019-04-07 17:42
#162
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Denmark glaive 
+1
2019-04-07 17:44
#165
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Ukraine ram3n 
bo7 is better
2019-04-07 18:50
#166
frozen | 
Canada Swume 
+1
2019-04-07 18:52
+1
2019-04-07 19:59
+1 but bo7 the bestest
2019-04-07 20:00
#170
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Switzerland KICK_RPG_FFS 
+1
2019-04-07 20:01
#171
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
-1
2019-04-07 20:01
+1
2019-04-07 20:02
+1
2019-04-07 20:14
#175
Kaze | 
Japan Whiteger 
+1
2019-04-07 20:32
#177
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Indonesia EvilPolish 
+1
2019-04-08 06:02
+1 i think every major final should be bo5
2019-04-08 06:04
+1
2019-04-08 06:08
#181
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Czech Republic QuertyX 
+1
2019-04-08 06:16
#182
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France Minaax_ 
+1
2019-04-08 06:18
+1
2019-04-08 06:19
+1
2019-04-08 06:26
+1
2019-04-08 08:01
+1
2019-04-08 08:05
Too exhausting for the players.
2019-04-08 08:09
Only really works between 2 good teams so you need a perfect format to make it good +1
2019-04-08 08:14
+1
2019-04-08 08:18
#202
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Poland KasPro 
+1
2019-04-08 08:20
+1
2019-04-08 08:35
+1
2019-04-08 08:42
#6
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Poland friendlySeb 
yea, its to long and boring +1 who thinks same
2019-04-07 13:17
#8
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Europe lalt 
+1
2019-04-07 13:16
#15
stinx | 
Czech Republic stinx 
-1 faqqot
2019-04-07 13:19
#20
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Europe San4izeees 
-1
2019-04-07 13:20
#29
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New Zealand Eauor 
if its good team, then i like, if its gambit vs immortals or some shit teams that are gonna get stomped then nty
2019-04-07 13:24
+1
2019-04-07 13:31
-1
2019-04-07 13:39
+1
2019-04-07 13:46
-1
2019-04-07 13:48
#65
Hvid | 
Brunei sdfsdsd 
+1
2019-04-07 13:54
#69
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India Tritium 
-1
2019-04-07 13:57
#72
Hvid | 
Brunei sdfsdsd 
+1
2019-04-07 13:58
-1
2019-04-07 14:23
#88
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Poland friendlySeb 
Ok, this map is pretty good.
2019-04-07 14:23
#153
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Palestine Xpicyy 
gay
2019-04-07 17:01
-1
2019-04-08 06:19
#185
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Czech Republic QuertyX 
-1
2019-04-08 06:20
-1 Look SK x VP, Epicenter 2017 final. What a game. Double overtime in the last map. SK x FaZe, ESL Pro League Finals Odense 2017. FaZe x NIP, IEM Oakland 2017. FaZe x Fnatic, IEM Katowice 2018. Mousesports x Team Liquid, ESL One New York 2017.
2019-04-08 06:30
-1
2019-04-08 08:01
-1
2019-04-08 08:18
#203
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Poland KasPro 
-1
2019-04-08 08:21
#10
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Sweden mrnotgay 
if you think it's boring, don't watch it
2019-04-07 13:17
i dont watch it
2019-04-07 13:24
#12
NEO | 
Poland KristaVeR 
IEM 2018 was the best BO5 final to watch
2019-04-07 13:18
#95
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Canada herocoolzzz 
agree +1
2019-04-07 14:48
#99
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
+1 best final in a long time, 7 hours of pure joy for my pp
2019-04-07 14:49
#13
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Brazil gangnamstyle 
if one team is leading 2:0 on maps than than they should give the worser team 2 maps for free so making 3rd map exiting.
2019-04-07 13:19
WOW, 'best idea'
2019-04-07 17:03
So make it so a team only has to win one map to win an event? Wow brilliant watson.
2019-04-08 06:25
bo5 only makes sense between navi and astralis xD
2019-04-07 13:19
#22
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Europe San4izeees 
>Astralis >great bo5
2019-04-07 13:21
#43
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North America niftynick 
I would be happy to watch any liquid, navi, ence, astralis bo5 matchups. They would all be pretty sick men)))
2019-04-07 13:33
#48
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2019-04-07 13:34
#96
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Canada herocoolzzz 
no astralis and we're good
2019-04-07 14:48
#179
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Navi would get destroyed in a bo5 against astralis wtf bo3 is so much better for them
2019-04-08 06:07
#18
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Slovakia escapeiztop 
thanks mr bo5, one more chance for my fnatic boys to win
2019-04-07 13:20
when finals comes to BO3 : "Ohh it's too short shitty format BO5 better" BO5 : "Boring af last too long"
2019-04-07 13:23
Exactly
2019-04-07 13:24
It's like different people like different things :O
2019-04-07 13:32
#52
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France theJpay 
Then do BO4 😎
2019-04-07 13:39
#66
oskar | 
Czech Republic PaYaB 
+1 EZ solution 😎 😎 😎
2019-04-07 13:55
+1
2019-04-07 14:09
#97
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Canada herocoolzzz 
+1
2019-04-07 14:49
#103
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Denmark resolut 
Almost like the users here have their own mind
2019-04-07 14:54
#26
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France Aresys 
I agree, exception for IEM Sydney FaZe - Astra, was very good.
2019-04-07 13:23
>too long >fast 3-0 for navi
2019-04-07 13:24
Every fucking format, always complaining, people won’t stop complaining untill their favorite team wins
2019-04-07 13:24
#33
rain | 
Lithuania Planum 
+1
2019-04-07 13:24
#35
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United Kingdom Dan_p666 
it's still better than the 2-0 dead matches is the past few months
2019-04-07 13:25
#37
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Finland Negroid_Prime 
>bo3 final WHY NOT BO5 !! !11!!! !!!??? >bo5 final THIS IS SO BORING !!!11!!! fucking kids
2019-04-07 13:26
#38
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Slovakia FlixSK 
write +1 every body who loves bo5 because u dont watch it but u watch every highlight from this super long match
2019-04-07 13:27
If you think that bo5 is boring try watching bo7 (It actually exists) hltv.org/matches/2297249/mousesports-vs-..
2019-04-07 13:28
Why dont they do a format like tennis tiebreak. If u lead 2:0, ur team wins. If it is 1:1, you have to get 2 more maps.
2019-04-07 13:29
#44
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Finland Negroid_Prime 
Cause this isnt tennis
2019-04-07 13:33
It makes sense though
2019-04-07 13:45
#55
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Finland Vkims 
Bo5 is better format for xizt since you really cant fuck up veto
2019-04-07 13:46
except he did lol
2019-04-07 16:21
#128
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Finland Vkims 
He didnt
2019-04-07 16:29
how could he of picked worse maps than mirage and inferno, pretty much navi bread and butter. sure fnatic have 100% mirage but they played trash compared to navi and they have been smashing other teams on inferno for ages I dont think they could take many maps from navi tbh but mirage and inferno for sure they couldnt
2019-04-07 16:32
If you guys check out the dota 2 scene you'll find out that the elimination system is very different All teams play a bo1 match that will detemine their place in one of two possible brackets: the upper bracket or the lower bracket The teams in the lower bracket -having lost the first bo1 match- play another bo1 with another team that had already lost. The loser gets eliminated and the winner advances to play one team that lost in the upper bracket and so on check out any dota 2 tournament to understand how things happen with brackets. This is a very good elimination system since it gives teams more opportunities. The loser team from the upper bracket does not get instantly eliminated they get another chance to qualify. Meanwhile teams from the lower bracket don't get to play very tough opponents super early on which can be quite unfair sometimes. In addition this is good both for players because they get to play more matches and hence more practice and analysis about the enemy team and the viewers because they get more entertainment and more tight intense matches since teams meet each other depending on the skill level and the previous tournament results and not just a lucky draw. Wanted to post this as a thread but hltv said i should be more active LUL
2019-04-07 13:48
Man too long too read 1.double elimination 2.its full playoff system 3.its not short, so winner must actually be betrwr when everyone 4.all matches will be with crowd 5.all matches promote or eliminate you, it makes them more interesting 6.you actually can rank up teams with this system more accurate 7.it take 1 week
2019-04-07 13:58
#84
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
thank mr. vodka
2019-04-07 14:11
Bo3 is shit, all finals of big events should be Bo5 if you think other wise you arent a real CS fan.
2019-04-07 13:49
Why not make it that "the team that first gets a 2 map advantage, wins"? (with 3 the maximum obviously) 2-0 = win 1-1 -> 2-1 -> extra map (until a team gets 3 maps)
2019-04-07 13:51
No, winning 3 maps is more definitive, its the rule of 3, 3 just feels more complete then only winning 2.
2019-04-07 13:53
if one team much better than other one its always boring doesnt matter bo3 or bo5
2019-04-07 13:56
But if its close then a Bo5 is just awesome.
2019-04-07 13:58
yes. SK - VP was insane on EPICENTER
2019-04-07 14:00
FaZe vs Fnatic The best final ever.
2019-04-07 14:00
yeah this too
2019-04-07 14:02
bo3 is shorter so its less boring
2019-04-07 14:40
no bo7 bbetter
2019-04-07 13:58
bo5 should be ONLY for the MAJOR. If it is to crown the best in the world, u gotta be the best in most of the maps as well, not just 2-3. How it been in the past Majors.. which were a bit of a disappointment of grand finals. bo5's in non majors feels too long indeed, for not enough prize money, or enough prestige in the tourny, so it can make it boring and not enough intense. But The Major should definitely be bo5
2019-04-07 14:05
dont agree if the prize pool is big than it fits, IEM's should 100% be Bo5. I would argue a major should be Bo7.
2019-04-07 14:10
I have to agree. From a standpoint of letting the best team win Bo5 makes more sense, but it's certainly a lot less exciting to watch
2019-04-07 14:21
#101
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Finland Faust_fSt 
Ironically, 50% of this tournament's BO3s lasted longer than the final.
2019-04-07 14:53
#113
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India Tritium 
so many +1's here o.O
2019-04-07 16:10
Yeah they are real CS fans who want to see the best team win and want to watch more CS.
2019-04-07 16:57
Starseries is a bit behind with their format. We've seen that with a) them not using a seeding system for the Swiss Group b) Them having 3 quarters on one day and 1 quarter and 2 semis on the second day of playoffs c) the bo5 final
2019-04-07 16:14
They are miles ahead of the major by having a Bo5 final and not a single Bo1.
2019-04-07 16:24
The major should have bo3 swiss I agree, but most Tournament organizers don't use bo5 finals as they rarely produce good games,which we saw again with this final
2019-04-07 16:26
Thats wrong, a good Bo3 and a good Bo5 are just as likely, only the Bo5 will last longer, put it this way, if the 2018 eleague boston major was a Bo5 that would have been the best series of CS ever. This final wasnt bad, it was just one team being better, and i much prefer to see a conclusive 3 maps rather than 2. The final of every big event should be a Bo5, the final of a Blast and the final of a Major shouldnt be the same length, its not right, the major is basically a joke event, with a shit format and a big prize pool, its actually one of the lowest quality tier one events.
2019-04-07 16:30
That's your preference which is completely fine. I just feel like most of then people enjoy bo3 finals more as the third map gets kinda boring after one team got blown out of the first two maps already.
2019-04-07 16:30
Basically Bo5 hinges more on skill, depth of skill, map pool, consistency and concentration, Bo3 hinges on short spurts of form, and a gimmicky map veto. With a Bo3 you can just get lucky in the veto and get lucky in on one map and then your half way to winning, thats not definitive, if you care at all about the better team winning Bo5 is the only route for a final. A Bo5 also puts teams out of their comfort zone as they will often have to play maps they arent used too and that really shows how good a team is, a Bo5 or Bo7 are the only ways to separate the men from the boys.
2019-04-07 16:36
bo5 is the best format for a final because the best team wins not the best veto. obviously the map order is important, but imo if a team only has 3 good maps and they get their wins through vetos they aren't a good team. tbh this argument of bo3 vs bo5 is irrelevant here anyway navi would of won either way
2019-04-07 16:25
if your criticism is the match being boring because there's a gap between the two teams then it will remain boring for you even with another format.
2019-04-07 16:34
If you find more CS boring you arent a CS fan, its that simple.
2019-04-07 16:41
#139
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World Notb8ing 
best format to see who is truly best in variety of maps and in longer match up, u can't just come in hot, pumped and steal one map win which gives you huge chance to win, you actually need to earn it more, downside is the time it consumes so casual plebs get bored.
2019-04-07 16:44
But they play 2 Bo3's a day on the semis and quarters, so time wise its not longer.
2019-04-07 16:45
#145
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World Notb8ing 
Yeah, IDK rly the pleb logic but seems the thing many people say is that bo5 is boring so seems real thing anyway.
2019-04-07 16:50
They are basically people who only watched Astralis give it to Liquid without lube in every Bo5.
2019-04-07 16:51
They forget ones like Faze vs Fnatic, Faze vs Mouz, Faze vs Astralis, NiP vs Faze, Liquid vs mouz, im sure im forgetting more. Basically any great Bo3 would turn into an epic Bo5 with even more twists and turns.
2019-04-07 16:56
#158
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Europe erhansol 
its just b03 grand finals even doesnt feel like a grand final.
2019-04-07 17:20
Ence vega bo5 final was epic
2019-04-07 17:24
Lol
2019-04-08 08:12
Still ez for Astralis ))
2019-04-07 17:41
#164
Rickeh | 
United Kingdom Johal 
yes, they will know if the match is close before they even invite the teams so they can figure out if they should have bo5 or bo3
2019-04-07 18:49
#186
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Palestine howisthat888 
+1
2019-04-08 06:23
15:00Nemiga vs GODSENT
Nemiga
2.83
GODSENT
1.41
20:00RUFUS vs Falkol
RUFUS
1.11
Falkol
4.00
15:30GODSENT vs Illuminar
GODSENT
1.51
Illuminar
2.50
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