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palestine vs israel
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Syria Asiimov 
i dont understand anything about this conflict who is wrong and why????
2019-04-08 11:01
0/8
2019-04-08 11:02
#2
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Syria Asiimov 
i genuinly dont understand tho :I
2019-04-08 11:02
#58
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Finland torarz_ 
The allied powers gave Jews a country after ww2 for the horrors they had to endure. They took territory from Palestine and gave some of them to Israel. From there the conflict began. After that many wars happened between Israel and Palestine and other middle east countries. But you should use wikipedia or watch documents for certain information. I could be wrong but i believe it happened this way.
2019-04-08 11:34
wikipedia lol ... no wonder you just wrote what you wrote. you actually know shit about it. dont write cuz you dont understand the world or anything. go back to your wikipedia
2019-04-08 13:30
Hmm :/
2019-04-08 13:45
#165
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Italy kyoor 
fakeflaggg
2019-04-08 13:53
#174
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United Kingdom daneclaw 
Wikipedia is actually reliable most of them time, they even state their sources on the bottom of the pages.
2019-04-08 14:06
yeah...and NATO are peacemakers and Russia are bad guys right? It all depends what angle you are looking at it from. Never trust media, they are all influenced and they all lie. I've seen wars with my own eyes, and than I look at tv and what they say is like 95% lies of what actually happened. Hope you get my point.
2019-04-08 14:48
Russia literally are the bad guys which they have proven so many times not to mention their crimes during the Soviet era? Crimea, Donbass wars, Georgia. They threaten the western world on a yearly basis. I fucking hate the U.S but Russia is definitely not the good guys.
2019-04-08 16:57
Yeah and NATO is great peaceful organisation lol. Let me name a few: Afganistan Croatia Bosnia Kosovo Lybia Egypt Syria Iraq Iran Morocco Ukraine Bombing of Serbia and many many more... how many civilians did die because of it? maybe search wikipedia for it. Russia for example very rarely (or almost never) attacks anyone while USA attacks one country per year, invades, leaves thousands of civilians dead and brings poverty while when they get attacked once in return on their soil (like on 9/11) they cry like they suffered 100 milions causalities. Worst trash in the world.
2019-04-08 17:03
I never said that Nato was peaceful?
2019-04-08 17:13
Well point is they always attack and you said that russia are threat to "western world". Well nato is a threat to humanity if you are looking at it that way. I didnt say russia are good guys either, they just react to what nato does mostly.
2019-04-08 17:17
React to what Nato does? Invading Georgia, Chechnya, Ukraine, supporting rebels in Ukraine isn't a reaction, it's an invasion.
2019-04-08 17:19
You should read #193 War in Ukraine was actually also started by NATO, actually rebels got supported by Germany and USA (read Klitschko) instead of throwing off the regime on elections they started military operation (which in any case is internal issue of a country). But NATO (read USA) always feels free to get mixed into it, so when it escalated Russia also felt the need to protect Russian people in Ukraine (in your and western media named as rebels) so in the end they (russian people in ukraine) wanted independence from Ukraine which they voted for (democratically) and then they got attached to Russia. Very simple to see if you want to see it. If you are to look at it your way, which is also ok for me, than you should tell your prime minister (and all other ones in EU) to be against independence of Kosovo for example, where people didnt even get to vote for it, they just "gave" them independence, or mixed into once independent country's internal issues (in that case Yugoslavia if I remember well), which is against the law, and in the end they even bombed Serbia and destroyed the country completely, killed thousands of civilians etc. I don't see them calling people from Kosovo aggressors there, but in Crimea case it is!? As I said, read my #193 please...world is fu*ked up my good friend, and there is absolutely no point in discussing it whatsoever. I just think that almost everything that's bad in this world is coming from USA, and you cant prove me wrong.
2019-04-08 17:29
just read your last sentence and can totally agree.
2019-04-09 18:24
So Hitler was right?
2019-04-09 10:46
#313
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United States BLNDSPT 
literally everyone is biased retard, don't lie to yourself
2019-04-09 15:58
no need to be a dick german nazi he just said what he knows. and if you know that hes wrong then you should explain why
2019-04-08 15:45
First of all Im not even german. second, you should get educated yourself, because your first sentence shows that you are not better either. I hope, for your childrens sake that scandi education is not what two of you represent, because you both are disgrace to humanity. and no, I dont need to explain anything, he should get educated better before talking publicly, just like you.
2019-04-08 16:33
Israel is wrong and espacially UN
2019-04-08 11:02
Yeah palestinians with terror actions are right. Fuck off.
2019-04-08 11:04
#9
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Netherlands shinkansen 
LOL american always serving his israeli masters
2019-04-08 11:05
Israeli masters? XDDDDD Israel would be nothing without the help of the US yet you call them our masters, another brainwashed european
2019-04-08 11:06
#22
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Denmark God_of_Wisdom 
This just proves how dumb you are. Israel would be nothing without, hold tight, yep, that's right, Israel would be nothing without - GERMANY (post WW2) and the British government.
2019-04-08 11:10
Not really, but that's cute from you trying to show wisdom
2019-04-08 11:12
#39
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Denmark God_of_Wisdom 
Andorra and education doesn't go well together. Hasn't been an exception in your case either I see. I already said in #35 that Israel and Germany were trade buddies in 1950's and that saved the Israel economy.
2019-04-08 11:21
"romania" it's andorra you uneducated kid haha, it appears that even good education doesn't mean danish kids will be smart.. how sad. also im fakeflagging if you didnt figure it out. Also being trade buddies is far from reality
2019-04-08 11:23
#56
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Denmark God_of_Wisdom 
Honestly I thought it was a stain on my monitor hence the comment about Romania. But it's same shit. Education south of Germany is very poor. No, it's not far from reality. This is a fact. Germany is second most important trade buddy after the US. But back in 1955+ it was Germany that was the most important until around 1970.
2019-04-08 11:32
Israeli army and Israel is literally relevant cus of US, not anyone else. Another brainwashed eurofag.
2019-04-08 11:13
#35
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Denmark God_of_Wisdom 
The fun part is that you actually believe what you write, but have no idea what happened in the years 1945-55. Israel was poor as a hooker with no legs. Germany and Israel were dependent of each other (trades).
2019-04-08 11:19
#43
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Albania PSDunken 
Israel built from a shithole (like all other arab countries) to this modern israel only because jews were setteling there. These brainless arabs obviously didn't care about it, until they realise jews are are getting their country and then OMG THEY ARE TAKING OUR HOLY LAND LETS TERRORISE THEM
2019-04-08 11:22
not even the case they thought we are taking their land, the arabs just always wanted the whole middle east for them selves, look at the Kurds trying to get a state when they're clearly indigenous people to their land... not when militant Islam rules the middle east tho!
2019-04-08 11:28
80 iq but don’t worry it’s an average result in us
2019-04-08 11:21
brainstats.com/average-iq-by-country.htm.. 9-United States 98 15-Greece 92 Get your facts straight in your face, also funny fact that you dare talking while you have been crying about economic crisis for like 10 years properly. Fuck off now mr 92 IQ poor shit.
2019-04-08 11:27
92 >80 You are the only country that destroyed Syria Iraq Palestine Afghanistan Libya Papua guinea and received later a freedom nobel prize LMAO
2019-04-08 11:31
Yeah you are just talking non-sense and ignoring facts, I literally proved that an average Greek person is dumber than an American yet you are bringing up your own illiterate assumptions, and nobel aint even an American thing you dumb shit.
2019-04-08 11:35
So tell me how did u help these countries if u didn’t destroy them by your “intervention” All these places turned from prospective countries to trash
2019-04-08 11:39
Brainstats.com Yes real facts for a Murican. Come on dude , you voted Trump for President you cant blame anyone for his brain.
2019-04-08 12:42
#179
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
You think IQ equals knowlege? You should think again if this is the case.
2019-04-08 14:14
The greek eurofag brought it up first just letting you know.
2019-04-08 15:19
#218
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Germany Shadyy89 
That's not a answer to my question but if it's okay for you to fill up his footsteps, than so be it.
2019-04-08 15:44
But your asking the israeli just letting you know it was the greek who brought it up first.
2019-04-08 16:20
#53
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Albania PSDunken 
lol and greece would be a smarter country?
2019-04-08 11:31
We were developing art and culture when you were praying on your knees to the trees 🌳
2019-04-08 11:33
#64
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Albania PSDunken 
Nice history indeed, unrelevant when you are collapsing in the present. and USA is the greatest country in the world.
2019-04-08 11:38
I would say China
2019-04-08 11:40
#70
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Albania PSDunken 
Living in USA Living in China I want you to choose that
2019-04-08 11:41
As a Chinese I would live in China
2019-04-08 11:44
+999999
2019-04-08 12:46
#84
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Japan Getp0x0st 
Google USS Liberty and Israeli Boycott Ban
2019-04-08 12:36
#261
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Afghanistan crywolf1337 
hahha +1
2019-04-08 17:11
omegalul america chiming in with typical 0iq brainwashed attitude
2019-04-08 12:33
EU TALKING HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-04-08 16:17
#314
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United States BLNDSPT 
too afraid to show real flag 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
2019-04-09 16:01
#105
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North America niftynick 
imagine thinking palestine are the bad guys when they literally got all of their land, capital, religious sites, and agricultural capital stolen by some jews crying victim. stupid fuck
2019-04-08 12:54
Imagine being a brainwashed libtard without education Stupid moron
2019-04-08 16:18
#238
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North America niftynick 
I'm educated and far right doesn't mean israel isn't a shitstain on the planet
2019-04-08 16:27
#21
2019-04-08 16:40
#254
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North America niftynick 
nah
2019-04-08 17:04
Destroyed by facts. REKT.
2019-04-08 17:06
0 iq
2019-04-08 14:06
#199
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United Kingdom niggatwerk 
Good goy! A shekel for you!
2019-04-08 15:11
Cya in a week, discussion about Israel and Palestine isnt allowed
2019-04-08 11:03
#6
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Syria Asiimov 
¨why not??
2019-04-08 11:04
Ask admins
2019-04-08 11:04
#8
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Syria Asiimov 
@admin why
2019-04-08 11:04
HLTV owned by Zionist clan That's why
2019-04-08 11:06
#14
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Syria Asiimov 
what
2019-04-08 11:06
I'm risking getting banned for 10 years if I say more Google Zionism and read about it
2019-04-08 11:07
#20
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Syria Asiimov 
ok baby
2019-04-08 11:07
"Zi·on·ism a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann." source: google.
2019-04-08 11:31
I find nothing bad about supporting the greatest country in the middle east.
2019-04-08 15:22
good
2019-04-08 15:22
#255
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North America niftynick 
thats a good goyim
2019-04-08 17:05
+1
2019-04-08 11:21
nobody is, both are terrorists
2019-04-08 11:05
only you're the righteous one -_-
2019-04-08 11:32
at least i don't kill innocent people
2019-04-08 12:31
#85
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Japan Getp0x0st 
siema
2019-04-08 12:37
cohav.org/uploads/7/3/6/2/7362844/339013.. You don't just kill innocent people, you kill your own people and you talk hahahahaha
2019-04-08 12:56
#121
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Germany Surcal___ 
At least there not innocent lul
2019-04-08 13:13
#180
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
You didn't really understand what Surcal__ was saying right?
2019-04-08 14:18
retard?
2019-04-08 15:22
#223
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Germany Shadyy89 
No? He just mentioned that the people were not innocent even though it's been their own people. That concept new for Jewish people or what?
2019-04-08 15:48
oh and the concept of people not being innocent is far fetched for nazis?
2019-04-08 16:13
#230
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Germany Shadyy89 
Please give me more proof about your low iq in your next reply. Thanks.
2019-04-08 16:17
For now you're just asking really stupid questions, I can have a more productive conversation with a fucking 4 year old
2019-04-08 16:27
#303
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Germany Shadyy89 
You just take whatever I say the wrong way and out of context so there is no point in a 'conversation'.
2019-04-08 20:35
tell me what you see in that picture idk maybe you're autistic
2019-04-08 16:13
#229
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Germany Shadyy89 
Autistic people are not able to describe a picture? That's a new one. I see some kids with rifles. So what?
2019-04-08 16:16
My point is there is a very wide spectrum to what you would define an innocent person.
2019-04-08 16:24
typical propaganda pic
2019-04-08 15:17
quiet dog
2019-04-08 15:23
#11
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North America Techno_Lover 
I don't recognise Palestine.
2019-04-08 11:05
+1
2019-04-08 11:06
#16
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Sweden Akoulad 
Yes exactly! I've spent countless hours searching around the internet for an answer but have yet to found a good, viable answer. Hopefully, here on HLTV dot ORG can a sane, collected and a calm person answer this question in a very respectful, unbiased manner with elegant chose of words.
2019-04-08 11:06
#19
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Syria Asiimov 
wow smart man))
2019-04-08 11:07
#73
BelieveR | 
Finland FinTz 
+1
2019-04-08 11:44
#277
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North America Techno_Lover 
+1
2019-04-08 17:34
#78
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India Narendra_modi 
Nice answer lol rekted him
2019-04-08 12:32
None of them are right or wrong. Their people were/are being manipulated by mighty men abusing religion as a tool to fuel hatred between them, which resulted in (as always) pointless wars of imperialism, masked by religion. Abrahamitic religions and their intolerance of "infidels" have been abused for thousands of years now - only western Christianity has been partly reformed successfully - mainly because of the wealth nations have accumulated in lands where this religion dwells. But even so events and politcians in e,g. Hungary, Poland and Russia show that hatred of other religions is still easily awakened in the poor and uneducated. If anyone was wrong, it was the people thinking that ending the Diaspora would create peace for the Jewish people (if they ever really thought that). Nationalists who reply to this post spreading their impressive levels of stupidity will be ignored.
2019-04-08 13:00
Hitler wasn't religious.
2019-04-08 15:23
What is your point? Mighty men who are/were truly religious are hard to find since being religious generally implies idealist and non-pragmatic thinking which hardly ever gets you into a position of power. Of course Hitler wasn't religious - he was a massive racist while Christian religion doesn't care about race whatsoever. Hitler was trying to destroy the Jewish race, not the Jewish religion - a racial jew who was atheist and on fire for national socialism would still have been deported to a KZ unless he had something very appealing for the Nazis to offer. This is one the points that make national socialism incredibly inhumane.
2019-04-08 15:32
#18
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Germany notBaitland 
Jew wrong
2019-04-08 11:07
youtu.be/76NytvQAIs0 This video explains it pretty much.
2019-04-08 11:09
+1 this might be the best video that explains that conflict.
2019-04-08 12:34
#127
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United Kingdom Dedner_xD 
Ahhhhhhhh yes, good goyim, make sure u pay muh $38 billion shekels to israel and remember muh 6 million. Oy Vey and make sure you spill ur filthy american blood for muh israel, you low life goyim cattle. youtube.com/watch?v=3lSjXhMUVKE youtube.com/watch?v=XytkI7afHcQ&t=2678s youtube.com/watch?v=Mm-Dm4pO0xY youtube.com/watch?v=_1OgxfCT044&t=82s
2019-04-08 13:20
Ahhhh yes a goat for you to rape and 9 yo girl to marry for you. Braindead muslim fanboy lmfao.
2019-04-08 16:19
It's actually very simple.. Israel exists, palestine doesn't. Those arabs in Gaza Ramahllah and the rest of arab settlements are just refugees from Syria,Lebanon,Egypt etc.. Their own countries don't want them back, and they prefer israeli control rather than Sharia Law. Israel is stuck with dealing with the world's largest human trash, and still everyone is complaining... I always wish for those who hate israel that at least 1 member of their family will die due to terror attack, and only then i would love to see them speak :)
2019-04-08 11:11
ok ur def braindead, open books or open google idk
2019-04-08 11:14
please enlighten me, how am i wrong?
2019-04-08 11:15
He is probably a refugee from Algeria living in Frafrica, dont expect much from him.
2019-04-08 11:16
Honestly? he is just another TV\Internet washed kid. 0 self thought, 0 understanding yet 100% confidence talking shit. I eat people like him for breakfast
2019-04-08 11:17
no it's just not the place to speek about that, it's way too long u have to go back in 1918, just because Great Britain/France and than UN in 1945 messed up.
2019-04-08 11:37
#40
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
Lol, the guy who never opened a book and has no opinion of his own tells others to read, LOL Pathetic
2019-04-08 11:20
#32
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Albania PSDunken 
That's why some israelis are pleased to see terror attacks in anti-semitic countries
2019-04-08 11:16
Hearing people talk about terror from countries that do not experience it, is much like taking sex advice from a virgin. Have sex and talk to me
2019-04-08 11:16
#37
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Albania PSDunken 
Israel basically gets trashed by the whole world only for not giving up. Israel letting it's guard down and being destroyed is the only way when anti-israel people will be shut up
2019-04-08 11:19
Why? let them speak while we continue to thrive.. idgaf about idiots' opinions,. i will rekt anyone about this topic. Israel will forever triumph, that's the beauty of it
2019-04-08 11:20
#44
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Albania PSDunken 
Hope the best for israel. Are you israeli? i don't see your flag for some reason
2019-04-08 11:23
#67
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France Urzqor 
+1
2019-04-08 11:39
can u tell me in which fight israel conquered their area? neither can i. they got it for nothing and still bitchin and tryna make the rabs look bad w their bs propaganda. ur a biased isaac who cant accept the truth and yeah, ur name really checks out
2019-04-08 13:18
HAHA wow bro thanks for the laughs!! and the way you write too.. it's like a failing rapper "tryna" acting smart
2019-04-08 13:40
keep rocking that 200iq isaiah, also thanks for the confirmation
2019-04-08 13:44
confirming you have no education, no opinions and you are in fact..a nobody
2019-04-08 13:45
if having another opinion means i have no education, opinion and in fact im a nobody... u must have some serious illness
2019-04-08 13:49
#182
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Still waiting for #38 promise. I don't see you rek anyone, only blatant insults towards other opinions.
2019-04-08 14:25
Only with worthy people, not some mongol troll.. also idgaf about lesser people's opinion. Had you been a thinking man and not a wannabe smart troll you could actually gain some new knowledge
2019-04-08 14:36
#186
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
"also idgaf about lesser people's opinion." Did you copy that from the Nazis? They used the same phrases. "Had you been a thinking man and not a wannabe smart troll you could actually gain some new knowledge" You talking to me with that sentence? How and when did I troll you? That was never my intention. Actually I was hoping for some real intelligent way to put down his stupid comments. But you failed my hopes. Sad times.
2019-04-08 14:40
So ? Nazis used knives and forks? you use them too you hitler's grandson? also they used to wear shoes, i bet you do that too you sick fuck! /end sarcasm "Had you been a thinking man and not a wannabe smart troll you could actually gain some new knowledge" was about the mongol.. You want real knowledge? go explore, i wont be able to spoon feed you.. I can direct you to the truth if you'd like and it's very simple.
2019-04-08 14:47
#217
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
I didn't really ask for knowledge...dont know where you misunderstood me. Was just disappointing that you insulted the guy instead of fulfilling your promise to shut him down with something smart :D. The weirdo 'sarcastic' comparison between the usage of daily tools with a common phrase used by people you should differentiate yourself from is disappointing as well. But never mind, you gave it some effort and I appreciate it.
2019-04-08 15:42
As i said i cannot feed you, you need to go and find the truth, i rekt people who are worthy of being rekted.. this guy is a troll, so its not worth it. Also i do not try to differentiate myself from any type of speech or expression. I spit it out as it is, either you deal with it and agree or not. And i expected you to understand sarcasm a bit better.. well
2019-04-08 15:46
#225
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
I disagreed with it obviously. My ancestors were bad to act like they did. Too less people stood up against it. I won't follow that bad examples so I point out when somebody is doing the same. That's my way in dealing with these things :)
2019-04-08 15:53
Trust me i hold no grudge towards muslims and or nazis.. but i dont hold back either. If stupid people speak i will make sure people know they are wrong and stupid. That's my way
2019-04-08 16:13
#234
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Yea I never said you shouldn't. But using insults won't help these people to understand anything. But I totally know what you mean. There are people who can't be reasoned with. Still insults doesn't make it better, but I myself often find myself in the exact situation and act like this too. Sad times xD
2019-04-08 16:20
#200
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United Kingdom niggatwerk 
A shekel for you!
2019-04-08 15:12
A pound\euro\brexit for you ?
2019-04-08 15:16
It’s simple Palestinians lived there for thousands of years Zionists from UK who conquered their land gave a part of it to USRAEL, year by year they conquered more and more % of Palestinian’s land and now they occupy it without legal action, zionists from UK and USA gave them enough weapons and technology and it’s the only reason why they can maintain to keep it, sometimes they also kill innocent protesters including Palestinian children
2019-04-08 11:24
thousands of years HAHAHA xdxdxdxdxd better troll next time cus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_histor.. roll back 100 years and look how many Arab colonizers there were in ISRAEL. spoiler:500 thousand bedouins/druze Arabs. now somehow the "palestinians" which means invaders in Hebrew are now 5 million. The only refugees in the land of Israel are the Arabs.
2019-04-08 11:40
1200 to these days it’s about 800 of years Who cares about the ancient times Should you give whole USA and Canada back to Indians who dominated it from the beginning to the year ~1500-1600?
2019-04-08 11:43
You're completely missing my point, there was never a "Palestinian" state or a "Palestinian" identity, only when the Jews came to question the Muslims in the middle east did the "Palestinian" identity ever came to existence. also isn't it double standards when you conveniently change your definition of "ancient" all the time whilst whining about the past. Also are you telling me the followers of Muhammad that throw gays off roofs don't care about ancient times? OK If the native Indians had a moral set of belief and clearly led the country into a better direction then the current governments do I probably would have supported them. If you're trying to claim A Muslims nation would have a better set of morals you're a madman. The funny thing about you terrorist sympathizers is every time we talk to you about the present (out moral values) you shift to the past (how we "invaded" "them"), and every time we shift to the past (the fact we were always in Israel), you go back to the present (how we are "tyrants").
2019-04-08 12:06
Particularly you may be right but how throwing gays of the roofs differs from shooting unarmed protesters ? You can’t act like you are the only nation who has “high moral”, Indians for sure were the best when it comes to morals, they didn’t torture people, they didn’t kill animals or people for no reason, they made no pollution and slavery
2019-04-08 12:08
When you hear about Hamas shooting rockets from inside schools and hospitals at innocent people do you shut your brain or do you just not care until we respond to them by attacking them? its convenient how you decide to wake up when Israel does anything to protect it self, but you do nothing of questioning the nature of those "protests". why aren't you asking the question on why Israeli soldiers are shooting at those protesters? If you put your self in that situation what would you do if your border was stormed by violent "protesters" that are escorted by Hamas snipers and have people from within them with explosives trying to actively sabotage the border, I don't think you know how the rules of engagements work in modern militaries if you say we're doing something wrong. all you're doing is conveniently call us out for things out of our hands when completely ignoring the undisputed horrors that the "Palestinians" endorse and commit as a majority.
2019-04-08 12:23
the palestinians can also justify their violence because of the oppression they suffer by israel. and then your govt can justify more oppressive measures that will cause more violence and netanyahu will get elected for 20 more terms. it all depends on what you want. if the state of israel has set as its goal to make sure that every single arab in palestine flees or moves away or gets shot, by diverting their water supply, preventing them from building ports and schools and factories, occupying the west bank, ocupying all of jerusalem, then youre doing a great job. if the goal is to minimize the number of casualties on israeli side, youre not doing a great job. your actions legitimize hamas. which is bad for everyone.
2019-04-08 13:20
Oppression they've inflicted on Israel you mean. I wrote a fucking essay and you don't even read it? no point even responding to you. Netanyahu supported the 2 state solution, inbefore he realized not a single sane "Palestinian" wants to live under a Muslim state. "every single arab in Palestine flees ...." LIES youtube.com/watch?v=-u_tsLTk2Sg You realize that the only reason we blockade Gaza is so they don't smuggle in weapons from Iran right? you should know that if you have any knowledge about the situation. by "occupying" you mean we've conquered the territories in a just war and the Arabs chose to refuse any treaty possible, only because the Israelis are insane people who still believe in peace the name "Palestine" still rings a bell for you, Rabbi kahane was right. If we Israelis listened to him there would be peace in Israel.
2019-04-08 13:53
#185
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
(inb4 ban or reports, this is just a rational thought and I don't think any of this would be good for anyone) Germany conquered most of europe in the 21st century. If the US didn't intervene, it might still be like this. For sure the occupied countries people would have tried to take their power and land back over the years (by terror, since this is the only way). But Germany would shoot all of the "terrorists" and the protesters down to make them shut up. They would shoot back with all they got and the killing never ends. Than Germany would allow each of this countries to get back 5% of their original territory to make their on state. For sure they would refuse and Germany than would say "But we offerend them a state, so we are the good ones" How would that be different to what is happening in Israel? Please put me in my place if I'm wrong. I don't mean to offend anyone!
2019-04-08 14:37
How is it different? how is it the same? they invaded STATES, "Palestine" was never a state, its a name of a region that happen to have a higher Muslim percentage. And we aren't Nazis and we don't have a bad agenda towards anyone, we just want a majority Jewish state, that is all. but of course you aren't here for information, if you were you'd read my 50 comments and get educated on something.
2019-04-08 15:20
#221
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
I read a few of them. So this land didn't belong to anyone before your went there? Sounds weird to me since people where living there for thousands of years.
2019-04-08 15:46
there were only 100k-500k between 1500-1900 many were Jews/Christians/bedouins and druze, living under different mandates and colonizers from different countries, idk why i need to teach you history when you're the one taking a side in foreign politics. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_histor..
2019-04-08 16:23
on that wikipedia page you can see that between late 12th century and 1931 the majority was muslim. it also says: "Thus," writes Dio Cassius, "nearly the whole of Judaea was made desolate."[16][17] It would take many years before the Judaean Jewish community recovered from the Bar Kochba war, seeing that for nearly 1850 years Jews no longer formed the majority in Palestine. so im not sure what point youre trying to make by linking it.
2019-04-08 17:02
When did i claim exactly Jews formed the majority all that time? of course under the Ottoman rule there would be a Muslim majority, doesn't take a genius to understand that. My point was that out of todays "Palestinians" around 80 percent are refugees.
2019-04-08 17:07
okay that doesnt change the fact that arabs christians and jews all have equal claims to palestine
2019-04-08 17:08
Israel, you mean Israel, Palestine was a name given to Israel by the Greek colonizers who both you and I can agree WERE COLONIZERS. And wtf does "claim" mean, Muslims have Mekka, Christians have the Vatican, and you seem so stubborn to let Muslims takeover Israel, who want the Jews thrown into the sea, I don't see much logic in your comment im sorry.
2019-04-08 17:15
typical that you cant even admit that the holy land is holy in all of the major religions. true muslims dont want all the jews thrown into the sea. true muslims want peace. those guys who shoot rockets at you are infidels. just like your trigger happy government. you both get what you deserve. those greek colonizers were colonizers. just like the romans that came after. just like your people colonized that piece of desert earlier. it has been colonized many times throughout history and all the people that colonized it have just as much claim to it as your people. you believe this land was given to you by god and it is your holy right to have it. other people with other religions believe exactly the same thing.
2019-04-08 17:19
"our trigger happy government" you're talking to someone who served in the Israeli defense forces, which is probably the army with the most advanced rules of engagements of any other army in the world, so nt with that bullshit. Those Greek colonizers came from GREECE. Those Roman colonizers came from ROME. Those Ottoman colonizers came from TURKEY. Those Arab refugees came from ARABIA. Those JEWS came from JUDEA. You should really look up the definition of colonization before you talk shit. How exactly did you get to own your country? It's easy to use illogical standards when hiding behind a screen without revealing your identity.
2019-04-08 17:31
you understant hopefully that every region on earth was at some point colonized by humans. those jews in judea first came from somewhere else. but even if i had a stroke and admitted that you have more claim on that desert than other people because you got there first, assuming you did get there first and didnt conquer it from people who lived there previously, mate, you got fucking rekt by the romans. you lost the war. that means that you dont get to claim that territory any more. it was claimed by the romans, which tranfered into the byzantine empire, which was conquered by the muslim ottoman empire, which was then defeated in ww1 by the british. you have to conquer it back before its really yours. which is what you are really doing now.
2019-04-08 17:37
"those Jews came from somewhere else" not true, they formed as a people in the state of Israel. So what you're saying is the Roman colonizers had a right to take over Israel? sounds about right after calling us colonizers.... We fought for it and won, the fact we didn't "conquer" it is only because of the good will of the Jewish people. and maybe the stupidity if i think it through.
2019-04-08 17:43
yes, just getting it over with and removing all arab presence from the area would have been more humane than what youre doing now.
2019-04-09 17:41
It would have been a lot more humane, think about all the lives that would have been saved... besides the fact the Israeli government is willing to pay them alot of money and to pay the governments taking them. think of all the "palestinian" refugees enjoying a way better life in the US, look at m0e, he's quote "Palestinian" and he'd never have his opportunities growing up under Hamas/fatah.
2019-04-09 17:46
yeah but you guys could have left too, both sides are very stubborn people, its a shame you cant get along.
2019-04-09 18:00
left back to germany where we were slaughtered? back to poland where we are blamed for everything bad they did? to the US where identity politics is fucking everyone left and right? no thanks we'll stay here, the arabs got over 50 countries, it isn't a big deal for them you can be sure.
2019-04-09 18:17
if all israel wants is a jewish state then why doesnt your govt stick to the internationally recognized borders? it seems like there are a lot of ppl who want a lot more than your fair share.
2019-04-08 17:06
You mean the same as we do in Gaza? leave them so they can stock up on ammunition and stab us in the back? doesn't sound too logical am i right?
2019-04-08 17:11
well then why doesnt your govt recognize palestine as a state so you can ask the fucking UN to intervene and then less israelis will get killed.
2019-04-08 17:16
it seems like netanyahu's party and other right wing parties are happy with the current situation. i am pretty cynical and all i see is that israelis dying just means they get more votes. its in the interest of these people to make sure the violence continues. so they make sure that people in palestine have 0 options besides leaving or joining hamas
2019-04-08 17:27
Netanyahu's brother died rescuing Israeli abducted hostages, now i'm not saying he's perfect, but demonizing him to that extent saying he enjoys people dying, when he's advocated for the Iron dome protection system, for the building of the wall which defended so many civilians from terror attacks, its the opposite of what you say, the "Palestinians" could easily just live in peace as they are by electing a proper government that has economical/diplomatic ambitions, but instead they elect terror organizations into power, that have no diplomatic ambitions and instead they play the victim worldwide after attempting to erase us off the map. Also pretending the "palestinians" have an ambition to have a thriving democracy is so far fetched, they didn't refuse any petition that came up for their good nature.
2019-04-08 17:38
why do you think that palestinians continue to vote hamas into power when they know it will result in more bloodshed and they can never beat israel?
2019-04-08 17:41
Because they don't have real ambitions to have a state, what different will that fictional state be to any other dictatorship in the middle east? the good Arabs in Israel know its better to live under a Jewish state then under a Muslims state. But just like any other Muslim country the Arab hierarchy in Israel has the warmongers on top.
2019-04-08 17:46
both sides have warmongers on top. you have won a couple wars against the arabs and seized more territory than agreed on but you wont be content until you have defeated them completely.
2019-04-08 17:53
I'm finding it really hard to talk to you, you seem to have a biased agenda, calling names you don't even know is most of what you're doing.
2019-04-08 18:01
i just read in the newspaper and here on hltv what your govt does and then i talk to people with your flag and at least half of you seem to genuinely support this inhumane regime and dont see that its those men that are getting your soldiers and citizens killed by preventing the conditions for peace from occurring indefinitely. you already won. time to show some mercy.
2019-04-09 10:09
at least you admit you're being brainwashed by the media, the same media that pretends Muslims are the real victims. "inhumane" you're proving my point, out of all of the crimes against humanity in the middle east you choose to attack the only country that actually has value for human life, says alot about you. Israel had leftist governments for decades, trying to tell me its Israel that didn't fight to peace is ridiculous. and in over a hundred comments you couldn't bring me 1 example of the so called inhumane acts we commit. and if we already won, how come we have to deal with thousands of violent protests every fucking week, terror attacks condoned by their establishments committed onto innocent civilians, anti semitic attacks all over Europe, ajnd we still keep taking the blame. its fucking surreal if you would've looked at the situation from our side.
2019-04-09 14:09
i dont have to tell you about those inhumane acts, you can just look them up, there are people who keep track of it. journalists and people who work for UN organisations etc. if i looked at it from your side, tbh, i still wouldnt get why you want to live in the desert in arabia surrounded by terrorist groups and hostile governments. youre relatively safe behind your walls with your defense systems but you still have to worry about terrorists and rockets regularly. i dont see how its worth it.
2019-04-09 16:25
vox.com/2018/5/17/17360982/jerusalem-isr.. interesting interview that i think explains very well why your historical narrative is a dangerous argument to use to justify war and land grabbing. it also gives you justification to treat those people badly because they dont have a country anyway and they have no right to live on your land and its their own fault that you had to shoot them unarmed in the head from 500m away. obviously the part at the end is a bit shameful because there are also people with guns in between those protesters, its not always just kids with slingshots.
2019-04-09 16:30
if we're such land grabbers then why did we give away land numerous times for peace? we gave the entire Sinai peninsula full with oil without any hesitation just to get a stable long lasting agreement, blaming Israel in this situation as i've already said a million times makes 0 sense. well its good that you admit there are people with guns, I wonder are they classified as protesters? and what about the same people who hide explosives and try and sabotage the border so that they could either infiltrate the border/shoot at the people coming to fix the border with Hamas snipers. If you want to tell me the Israeli snipers target these people because they're protesting you'll have to bring me evidence, and it would be pretty difficult considering the rules of engagements in the IDF are pretty clear, and there's a trained high ranking officer attached to any sniper on that border in order to prevent unnecessary casualties.
2019-04-09 17:30
yeah its almost as if those high ranking officers are on board with those shootings...
2019-04-09 17:32
Those high ranking officers are many times leftists, the world doesn't work alongside with your phobias, the reality is very different from the fake news you're spouting.
2019-04-09 18:19
i dont have to bring you the evidence, you have both a moral obligation and an obligation as a citizen of your country to get that evidence and hold your government accountable by not voting for fascists.
2019-04-09 17:33
I have a moral obligation to give you evidence showing things that aren't even happening?
2019-04-09 17:46
no you have to look for yourself, and for your country. it doesnt matter to me. im safe over here with no rockets coming at me and no terrorist attacks.
2019-04-09 18:06
It's voting day here today, and I've voted the way i think will work, and its not by giving away land to people without any ambitions for peace.
2019-04-09 18:15
"The only refugees in the land of Israel are the Arabs." that land of israel ur talkin about was conquered by the rabs against the jews. the jews got it back from the britts/un and didnt fight for it (yeah they did, after they had already got it along w the help from other countries)
2019-04-08 13:21
"help from other countries" you're the sort of guy to blame David for using a stone to take down Goliath. You'd only be appeased if we fought armies of Arabs supported by the best Russian weaponry at the time with our fucking bare teeth. are you seriously claiming Israel had a technological advantage over the Arabs in the independence war/six days war? so stupid.
2019-04-08 13:57
i didnt say israel had any technological advantage, neither that they shoulda fought in a disadvantage.
2019-04-08 14:08
The "palestinians" refused the British proposal for 25 percent for Israelis all the rest for the "palestinians" and the "palestinians" rejected it, then came the UN and declared how things will happen, followed by an attack on Israel that is what actually happen.
2019-04-08 15:13
yeah wow thats weird, why would anyone ever just refuse to give up 1/4 of their land for free for no reason without fighting any wars?
2019-04-09 10:10
considering the Jews made up around 50 percent of the population at the time, and considering the land wasn't theirs, 75 percent of the land for a country that never existed before is borderline insanity.
2019-04-09 14:01
you won in 6 days, i think its hard to maintain the opinion that you didnt have a huge advantage
2019-04-08 17:42
We were the underdogs, but we were smarter, we had spies in all the Arab countries and we knew everything about their plans, so we struck their ports and maintained air superiority. We built our weapons to be better than our opponents, we established trade as our intention was to thrive under all circumstances, if you think our weaponry and personal had an advantage you're delusional though.
2019-04-08 17:50
in other words you had a massive advantage
2019-04-08 17:53
no
2019-04-08 17:57
then you couldnt win in 6 days, but you did. dont pretend its fucking heroic to shoot at some goat farmers in the desert with your fancy american weapons. at least the first gulf war lasted 6 months. that was also american guns vs goat farmers. your war lasted 6 days. but you didnt have a massive advantage. bitch please. how can you win in 6 fucking days 1v3 without massive advantages. thats like saying oh yeah i aced every round last game on my smurf but no massive advantages, it was fair
2019-04-09 10:07
"goat farmers" you're retarded, im sorry. you have a really messed up view on life. now ur taking our victories and using it against us, as if it was us that waged the war. If we had such a massive advantage then explain to me again why the entire arab world waged war on us? oh let me guess they're stupid animals? right? the privilege you think you have to talk about this situation is insane considering you're a 12 year old.
2019-04-09 14:13
if the entire arab world waged war on you and you won, then you had a pretty big advantage, given their massive manpower superiority, right? otherwise you could not have won. you must have had some big advantages. i dont see how thats insane. you only lost about 1000 soldiers and killed a lot more. your aircraft were better than what the arabs had and you went for the surprise attack. seems like it was pretty ez. they even came back and tried to take those territories back in the yom kippur war, that time you were surprised, and you still won easily. theres a reason they didnt try it again. they have no chance.
2019-04-09 16:49
we had an advantage during the war, not before it happen, before it happen we were clear underdogs.
2019-04-09 17:42
you literally have never lost a war against egypt jordan iraq or syria, you only went full vietnam in lebanon.
2019-04-09 16:50
"went full vietnam" sorry for valuing our soldiers lives over murderous terrorists
2019-04-09 17:22
no i meant you started a guerrila war that was impossible to win and you eventually had to retreat after spending a lot of money and losing a couple people.
2019-04-09 17:24
we could've won it, but like you said the costs were too high and the military wasn't properly prepared for such an operation in a short notice.
2019-04-09 17:42
yeah so it was your vietnam
2019-04-09 17:59
If i said yes would you be appeased? :D No it wasn't but I guess there are similarities :)
2019-04-09 18:18
+1
2019-04-08 11:39
#69
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France Urzqor 
8/8
2019-04-08 11:40
+1
2019-04-08 13:21
#269
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Argentina YH!one 
+1 anglosaxon zionists are international terrorist. FREE PALESTINA!!!
2019-04-08 17:21
Jews :) just google it
2019-04-08 11:25
16:10 IS GOD RES 16:10 IS GOD RES 16:10 IS GOD RES 16:10 IS GOD RES
2019-04-08 11:27
#175
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United Kingdom daneclaw 
no
2019-04-08 14:08
#61
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Turkey tastemycobra 
There is no right or wrong. There is only stronger beats the weaker thing as usual. Typical humans...
2019-04-08 11:37
#98
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Indonesia edwardnauli91 
FACTS +1
2019-04-08 12:50
#82
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India Narendra_modi 
I don't know anything about the topic but why USA is so much interested in protecting Israel? Can anyone tell a decent answer
2019-04-08 12:36
Because USA wants to be a "good cop" in this world, and also they support Israel because of the cold war (when the Soviet Union supported the arabs).
2019-04-08 12:37
#87
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India Narendra_modi 
Didn't soviets invaded Muslims and Arabs fought against them (afghan invasion)?
2019-04-08 12:39
Might be, I am not an expert on the subject. But what I do know, is that the SU helped the arabs in Israel's 1948 war, and the 1967 war, and maybe even the 1973 war. Just like they helped NK and the USA helped South Korea.
2019-04-08 12:46
OK i think you are right, during cold War era the Soviets always supported anti US countries like North Vietnam, NK, and maybe arabs The Arab invasion of soviets i think is regarded as a mistake of downfall of Soviets which was in 1978, but i maybe wrong
2019-04-08 12:52
Hello. In the height of the cold war and the start of the Jewish independence war / civil war between the Arabs and the Jews in the mandate of Palestine, a resolution was passed in the UN. The partition plan of the mandate of Palestine. At the time, Palestinian (Pre-1948 Israel) Jews were building communal settlements and they were managed similarly to the ideas of socialism. (they were basically small socialist villages) Back to the partition plan, the soviet union voted in favour of the resolution because they saw similarities between their economic approach (socialism, communist-socialism etc.) and thought of it as a good idea to get the Jews on their side and establish a foothold in the Middle East. Jews did not care as they saw it as an international charter, something they've been seeking after for a long time --- (I don't know/remember what happened in between, therefore I'll skip it so you wouldn't be confused, I'll urge you to research this on your own) As I said at the start of my reply, this was at the height of the cold war. So the US government actually wanted to vote against the resolution because they saw the Soviet Union voted in favour. However, American citizens (and american jews) were pressuring the US government to go in favour of the resolution too because of what happened to the Jews in WW2 (this was at the time when the US citizens were all for peace, love, hippy etc), So the US did. And since then the relations between the US and Israel started to tighten. However, misunderstood by many, the US did not help Israel in any of its early wars: No help in the 1947-1949 independence war, no help in the 1967 six day war and no help in the 1973 Yom Kippur war. That's basically it. TL;DR usa and israel tightened relations after their independence, there were however ups and downs. :)
2019-04-08 13:42
Thanks it was a good read.
2019-04-08 13:52
everything for our indian friends
2019-04-08 13:55
The Arab armies *only used* Soviet equipment in the '48 war, not necessarily aided by them. However, AFTER the Suez Crisis in 1956, the Soviets willingly equipped the Arab armies and gave them intelligence.
2019-04-08 13:49
#95
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Indonesia edwardnauli91 
NEO NAZI & NEO COMMUNIST +1
2019-04-08 12:48
Wow man you really know nothing....
2019-04-08 12:50
I stated facts, and ignoring them doesn't make you right. The SU supported the arabs (#92) and the USA supported Israel (#92) because of the cold war.
2019-04-08 12:55
If you think that this is the reason for the US/Israeli co-operation then maybe you should hit the history books once again...
2019-04-08 12:57
Then what is it? Why can't you give me a reason that is backed up by proofs and facts?
2019-04-08 12:59
Well dude if you had a clue you would know that it takes at least a couple of A4 written pages to explain. But if you seriously think that this is it, it is fine by me but just don't go and tell kids this stuff they might think it is true
2019-04-08 13:05
So you have no proofs nor facts to back you up, and you're just saying that I'm wrong without proving it. Typical leftist.
2019-04-08 13:09
dude stop being ignorant. Firstly I am not a leftist. Second just use about 10-15 minutes on google and your answer would be significantly different...
2019-04-08 13:10
You said something, you need to prove it. Don't avoiding it and blaming me for your stupidity.
2019-04-08 13:15
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Israel_Lobby_a.. foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/15/how-and-how.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_lobby_in_th.. ips-dc.org/why_the_us_supports_israel/ Start by reading this then we can have a conversation on Israel and the US. But tbh I cba to teach every kid like you everything... Start by educating yourself before going public with your opinions based on what your little sister told you...
2019-04-08 13:20
It seems like you're the one who doesn't read. The last article proves my point, and the other ones don't prove my point to be wrong.
2019-04-08 13:29
Please man do a little thinking for once....
2019-04-08 13:29
Said the guy who proved my point and couldn't prove his.
2019-04-08 13:32
If you really read this, and still think the cold war is the reason for Israeli and US co-operation then I just feel sorry for you...
2019-04-08 13:33
You didn't prove me otherwise, you didn't prove nothing at all. And yes, the SU helped the arabs, and the US helped Israel.
2019-04-08 13:35
Jesus - did I say otherwise? but that insignificant detail was already specified before the cold war due to a lot of other factors. The cold war was way after the starting of co-operation between Israel and the US, or more specific the Jews and USA.
2019-04-08 13:38
You still haven't showed any proof that what you're saying is true.
2019-04-08 13:40
nvm dude... Ask your little sister when she gets older
2019-04-08 13:40
Again, avoiding facts.
2019-04-08 13:42
#89
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United Kingdom Hamshanks 
A lot of powerful people in the US at the time were Jewish and there's obviously a lot more support in the population for Jewish people than Arabs
2019-04-08 12:44
#90
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India Narendra_modi 
Seems reasonable
2019-04-08 12:45
Can you prove it?
2019-04-08 12:49
#120
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
That powerful people during 1948 were Jewish? That the population of the US was 3% Jewish? Yes, quite easily.
2019-04-08 13:11
"That the population of the US was 3% Jewish? Yes, quite easily." This doesn't prove what you've said earlier: "A lot of powerful people in the US at the time were Jewish"
2019-04-08 13:22
#137
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
I made two points which i said could be easily verified
2019-04-08 13:27
But you still didn't give me any proof whatsoever, that what you'vr said, "...A lot of powerful people in the US at the time were Jewish", is true.
2019-04-08 13:31
#143
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
You asked me can i prove it, I told you yes. Im not trying to convince you as you are obviously either a Jew or Zionist yourself.
2019-04-08 13:32
I'm both, a jew and a Zionist. And "Im not trying to convince you as you are obviously either a Jew or Zionist yourself.", isn't a solid arguement. You avoided facts because you cannot prove your point.
2019-04-08 13:34
#159
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
No point. Some random guy on HLTV will change your mind? Yeahhhh no.
2019-04-08 13:46
It's not necessarily because "a lot of the powerful people in america were jewish", this was post WW2, the holocaust was uncovering during that time + the population in the US were, then, very anti-war. There were Jewish delegations sent to the US to guarantee their support in the partition plan etc etc etc. #154 if u want
2019-04-08 14:01
#171
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Of course. Im not nessacarily pro that or anti whatever but i think theres more sides than what this guy presents and i think its stupid to support something because its the better of two evils
2019-04-08 14:02
deilluminati
2019-04-08 13:20
Israel is right. Reply if you want details.
2019-04-08 12:36
#93
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Indonesia edwardnauli91 
IT's Not Their Fault, OUR World is Controlled by NEO-NAZI (EVIL SECRET ORG) who create Conspiracies Around The World + in the Future Neo-Nazi will Built BAD AI will Control All Of US, Hope that's not Happening. We've always PRAY for WORLD PEACE. +1 We still have many GOOD People Around the World, Don't Worry MY FRIEND :)
2019-04-08 12:46
#102
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Europe ban1c 
flag checks out
2019-04-08 12:51
RN USA is supporting Israel in its plan to create Greater Israel and steal even more lands from the Palestinian people. USA and Israel are both criminal regimes, yet they have the nerve to complain about Russia and Crimea or China in the South China Sea. USA and Israel must be stopped and punished. They are the greatest criminal empire in the world. War Criminal Netanyahu to the Hague NOW.
2019-04-08 12:57
Russia seems to have pretty good ties with Israel, Putin loves Netanyahu.
2019-04-09 18:24
#97
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Look what Israel did with the land they got. Look what Palestine did with the land they got. But once again stupid ass fighting over basically holy land. Biggest brainwashing scam ever created. Religion.
2019-04-08 12:50
TRUE +1
2019-04-08 12:51
Just a reminder that the UN and Israel have offered the Palestinians 5 different peace deals, they offered them more land than they already have. The Palestinians have rejected them all. True, religion is a scam.
2019-04-08 12:52
#107
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United States Trump2020KAG 
That’s what happens when a terror org runs the country. Palestine gets hundreds and hundreds of millions every year in aid but yet do nothing with the money.
2019-04-08 12:56
+1 Exactly
2019-04-08 12:58
+1
2019-04-08 13:16
+1
2019-04-08 12:56
#158
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Turkey tastemycobra 
That is not true. Israel dodged all the legit peace efforts. They even killed their own PM who didnt want to dodge... zionism is strong with israel deep state.
2019-04-08 13:45
No, YOU are not true. Israel did not dodge a peace effort ever. "They" = lone, extremist right winger. + the same happened with Anwar Sadaat, the Egyptian PM who signed a peace treaty with Israel which is >still< enforced to this day.
2019-04-08 14:09
#181
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Turkey tastemycobra 
lone extremist my ass... let’s not kid ourselves... Yitzhak Rabin was killed after Oslo Accords... and people who broke it are in power now: youtu.be/3-5hUG6Os68
2019-04-08 14:22
exactly, after the Oslo accords which killed so many innocent civilians both Arab and Jewish.
2019-04-09 18:31
+1
2019-04-08 14:43
They didn't dodge but they offered humiliating terms that were unacceptable to the Palestinians
2019-04-08 17:54
Rabin wanted to give Hamas a state, that's why he was shot, not for proper good will negotiations which are attempted to this day (no idea why)
2019-04-09 18:25
None of them are right or wrong. Their people were/are being manipulated by mighty men abusing religion as a tool to fuel hatred between them, which resulted in (as always) pointless wars of imperialism, masked by religion. Abrahamitic religions and their intolerance of "infidels" have been abused for thousands of years now - only western Christianity has been partly reformed successfully - mainly because of the wealth nations have accumulated in lands where this religion dwells. But even so events and politcians in e,g. Hungary, Poland and Russia show that hatred of other religions is still easily awakened in the poor and uneducated. If anyone was wrong, it was the people thinking that ending the Diaspora would create peace for the Jewish people (if they ever really thought that). Nationalists who reply to this post spreading their impressive levels of stupidity will be ignored.
2019-04-08 13:02
FACTS +1
2019-04-08 13:17
The Arabs hate Israel for 1 reason only and its not religion, its for their hunger for more and more land and colonization the Arabs might be one of the shittiest colonizers, but they sure don't let go of any of their land, just look at the Kurds, they are Muslims but because they don't get a state even though there's thousands of Kurds all over Turkey/Iraq/Syria/Iran the Arab fanatics will never compromise for peace, they don't value peace.
2019-04-09 18:29
nobody cares.
2019-04-08 13:04
#240
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Syria Asiimov 
some care)
2019-04-08 16:33
piece of land once UK colony called Mandate Palestine, then UK offer that land to Jews in Europe, petition to make two states in that land, arab and jewish state, arabs rejects it, State of Israel established, surrounding Arab states declare war and invade but somehow lost despite outnumbering them, more wars following, peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan are signed, and conflict continues to roar to this day with attempts at peace constantly backfiring.
2019-04-08 13:08
also I side with neither side, both only end up committing violence against each other like animals.
2019-04-08 13:26
Bible says Israel is right. God forbid to divide their land. Muslims are the nation of antichrist.
2019-04-08 13:22
FACTS, Some Bad MUSLIMS is antiCHRIST not all of them +1
2019-04-08 14:44
yes
2019-04-08 15:13
#134
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Tunisia Yuri_Tarded 
I side with Palestine because I don't understand how does a European Jew see that land as his, not to mention the numerous violations and human rights Palestinians are exposed to.
2019-04-08 13:25
#135
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United Kingdom Dedner_xD 
+100000000000
2019-04-08 13:25
#244
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Albania PSDunken 
Flag is so ironic
2019-04-08 16:47
#150
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Sweden Bakkmann 
I absolutely hate what the Israeli state did to Palestine and all that, but i gotta say, after visiting Israel, it was the most fun ive ever had in my life.
2019-04-08 13:40
#162
woxic | 
Asia istoxic 
i donk know either but there is only one fact: killing each other because of religion, ideology, ethnicity, race, skin color, hair color, dick size is just so stupid and inhuman.
2019-04-08 13:50
that's 100% of mankind history.. can you name 1 land on earth that wasnt conquered in any way? war\politics\marriage\salughter ?
2019-04-08 14:37
#167
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United Kingdom daneclaw 
When Britain left the Mandate of Palestine it was split between Israel and Palestine but after the 1948 Arab-Israel war, the West Bank was annexed by Jordan and the Gaza Strip by Egypt and the Arab defeats in the subsequent wars made Israel annex basically everything that was Palestinian.
2019-04-08 13:56
muslims and jews killing each other ? they making this planet a favor
2019-04-08 14:01
Nt indo
2019-04-08 14:03
+1
2019-04-08 14:45
If you do a world poll most people would rather see polish people die.. you are useless to earth.. It's like your'e a budget Russia, but worse
2019-04-08 15:04
#177
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Israel fvlion123 
so many people here have no idea what they are talking about lmao
2019-04-08 14:09
#247
hyde | 
United Kingdom 0outof8 
Okay mr Israel, nuke what remains of Palestine yes or no?
2019-04-08 16:55
#275
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Israel wetz 
no
2019-04-08 17:31
#304
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Israel fvlion123 
nah
2019-04-08 20:56
#274
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Israel wetz 
+1
2019-04-08 17:30
they steal our lands
2019-04-08 14:46
true #makeHebronJewishagain
2019-04-09 18:20
#204
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United Kingdom niggatwerk 
Nuke em both
2019-04-08 15:15
#246
hyde | 
United Kingdom 0outof8 
+1 this but unironically
2019-04-08 16:55
#253
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Albania PSDunken 
Drink some tea and relax, no one is getting nuked, mohammad el tea
2019-04-08 17:04
no sugar tho so his teeth wont disappear
2019-04-09 18:21
#214
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United States Howler4695 
Muslims have more rights in Israel than in Palestine.
2019-04-08 15:25
I don't really care but I hope Israel will get destroyed.
2019-04-08 16:52
#273
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Israel wetz 
u really think hamas will destroy us ? lmaoooooooo
2019-04-08 17:30
idk I want all the countries in the world to attack you, there's no reason for Israel to exist.
2019-04-08 17:47
#287
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Israel wetz 
Wont happened, same about every country
2019-04-08 17:48
I hope it will actually, I support Palestine on their way to eliminate Israel.
2019-04-08 17:49
#290
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Israel wetz 
palestine wont destroy us, maybe the rest of the world but i dont think
2019-04-08 17:51
All the countries will attack but not on Israel. Israel will eventually get destroyed but so many wars before it.
2019-04-08 17:57
Palewho?
2019-04-08 16:58
#272
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Israel wetz 
+1
2019-04-08 17:29
#316
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Sweden MpK_ 
palestine)))
2019-04-09 16:07
Who?
2019-04-09 16:49
#323
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Sweden MpK_ 
palestine)))
2019-04-09 17:05
Who?
2019-04-09 17:05
Sounds like a bunch of cry babies who tried to invade a neighbouring country and lost territory and is still crying about it.
2019-04-09 17:09
#347
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Israel namiiat 
+1
2019-04-09 18:22
There is no hope for Palestine anymore. The Arab nations abandoned the real palestinians and captured the Palestinian cause for their own political agendas - Damascus, Tripoli, Cairo, Baghdad etc. It's over, gg, nt
2019-04-08 17:38
SADLY, TRUE +1
2019-04-08 18:16
F :(
2019-04-09 10:12
Why?
2019-04-08 18:22
#302
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Belgium azertyuio 
May the strongest prevail. From the night of time, the human race fight for territory. We started fighting with spears and pebbles, then swords and bows, then guns and bombs. The atomic bomb (mutual assured destruction) have created a virtual peace that makes us imagine that war is not our way. Wars also help keep the amount of people at an acceptable level. we are already much too much for the capabilities of this planet
2019-04-08 18:36
#334
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Wars have never been good at capping Human population and the biggest ones have never been about that either. What a stupid "deep" statement
2019-04-09 17:43
#315
Jesus | 
United States BLNDSPT 
i love these threads, I could read these for hours
2019-04-09 16:07
+1
2019-04-09 16:17
#337
YNk | 
Brazil wIDt 
On the aftematch of the world war, palastines wore stripped of their land, that got divided and given control to the new jew state. Obviously the palastines are right. Imagine yourself being told that you only can live in part of what were your country, and now foreigners controle the majority of it, including the areas where you supposed to live. Add differente religion and believes to the mix.
2019-04-09 17:58
tiocfaidh ar la ireland supports you palestine
2019-04-09 18:23
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