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Most Average Player Ever
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United States Lazerz 
Idk? CajunB? nitr0?
2019-04-11 07:04
markeloff in csgo
2019-04-11 07:07
#2
device | 
United States Lazerz 
2019-04-11 07:08
hey man you asked for average there you go
2019-04-11 07:36
#62
device | 
United States Lazerz 
bruh if u think markeloff in csgo is average, then u must think that sixer is just slightly below average, and that someone like REZ is godlike
2019-04-11 07:58
#97
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Australia krittyx 
without REZ nip would be fucked
2019-04-11 10:11
#107
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Poland Okyoaku 
yes, but it doesn't mean he is godlike, no doubt he is good. and when i think about average player i see edward, byali, nbk, denis, mouz etc...
2019-04-11 10:39
GodRez!
2019-04-11 21:25
#171
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United States WashamGaming 
EliGE
2019-04-11 21:49
#177
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Poland Okyoaku 
Elige is actually good or very good player, 4 sure above average
2019-04-11 22:23
#114
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Lithuania arres 
Bruh average is a statistical mean, not whatever you consider it to be. Use words accordingly. Rez is way above average unless you take into account only top 30-40 players currently playing.
2019-04-11 10:51
facts and logic here to save the day
2019-04-11 16:02
#180
FalleN | 
Brazil 7nnox 
Nice answer lol
2019-04-11 22:35
#3
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Switzerland Sinneslust 
f0rest
2019-04-11 07:09
#4
device | 
United States Lazerz 
ha made me laugh at least
2019-04-11 07:09
+1
2019-04-11 07:36
#89
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Serbia s1v9mple 
+1
2019-04-11 09:48
#160
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Denmark dR_JaCkPoT 
NBK
2019-04-11 21:19
#5
flusha | 
Europe a2tral16 
felps maybe?
2019-04-11 07:12
#8
device | 
United States Lazerz 
maybe
2019-04-11 07:13
flamie
2019-04-11 07:12
#9
device | 
United States Lazerz 
he has a few top 20's
2019-04-11 07:13
#7
Canada p100n 
flusha
2019-04-11 07:13
#10
device | 
United States Lazerz 
i would laugh but #3 already made me spit my water out
2019-04-11 07:14
f0rest is the definition of overrated
2019-04-11 07:47
#42
device | 
United States Lazerz 
whether or not u think he is overrated, to call him average is just...
2019-04-11 07:48
Well, hes either really great with amazing crisp aim or really underwhelming. In the context of being a star player i think its fair to call him average.
2019-04-11 21:10
#11
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Mexico <3 Zetas 
Edward
2019-04-11 07:14
#12
device | 
United States Lazerz 
few top 20's but now he sucks dick i guess it balances out somewhat i was thinking more along the lines of consistently average rather than peaking at top 20 then falling to bottom 20
2019-04-11 07:15
#13
flusha | 
Slovakia jurrte 
MichaelAverage
2019-04-11 07:16
+1 😎
2019-04-11 07:29
Wtf mens)))))))
2019-04-11 21:16
+1
2019-04-11 22:29
#14
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
Device
2019-04-11 07:16
#15
device | 
United States Lazerz 
#10
2019-04-11 07:16
#16
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
Not gonna look at that comment, if you want to tell me something write it here, otherwise tough luck. #14
2019-04-11 07:17
#17
device | 
United States Lazerz 
i would laugh but #3 already made me spit my water out
2019-04-11 07:17
#19
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
Disgusting person (flag checks out) spitting out water. They dont teach you manners in NA?
2019-04-11 07:18
#20
device | 
United States Lazerz 
I wouldnt know since i didnt grow up here. Sometimes when some super dumb shit catches me way off guard like saying f0rest/flusha/device are average, even tho they are baits they still catch me completely off guard
2019-04-11 07:18
0/8
2019-04-11 10:32
#142
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Switzerland meme_jesus 
Shox is the perfect average player. Thanks for the suggestion, would have forgotten that some bot like this even exists.
2019-04-11 14:45
Allu. Maybe a bit below though
2019-04-11 11:22
#174
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United States WashamGaming 
Nah allu is a good awp, Most avg on ence is def xseven, and if bps goes badly for them then they should -xseven +suNny
2019-04-11 21:51
MODDII
2019-04-11 07:17
Worse
2019-04-11 07:20
#21
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United States Freakmode 
stewie
2019-04-11 07:18
#22
device | 
United States Lazerz 
major winner, gotta be more average options maybe his stats are average but it isnt average for a player to win a major that was my point
2019-04-11 07:19
#33
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Finland Fliida 
Carried by Skadoodle.
2019-04-11 07:34
#44
device | 
United States Lazerz 
i think not lmao? skadoodle not even their best player at the major also skadoodle and rush were their 2 worst players before and after the major
2019-04-11 07:49
#37
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Finland yEkQ 
so gambit players are not avg?
2019-04-11 07:36
Stewie is much better than gambot players
2019-04-11 07:48
#130
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Finland yEkQ 
jeah i know but he says this, maybe his stats are average but it isnt average for a player to win a major that was my point
2019-04-11 12:49
#50
device | 
United States Lazerz 
theres a difference 1.) stew was relevent b4 and after major win 2.) stew was one of the better players on the team after the major, ska rush fell off a cliff
2019-04-11 07:52
#138
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Finland yEkQ 
jeah but i answer just to this, major winner, gotta be more average options maybe his stats are average but it isnt average for a player to win a major that was my point-.
2019-04-11 13:47
#175
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United States WashamGaming 
GamBot
2019-04-11 21:51
Nah stewie is like fer with better aim
2019-04-11 07:19
delusional
2019-04-11 23:14
Right now Edward AdreN bodyy
2019-04-11 07:21
#26
device | 
United States Lazerz 
all 3 of them suck dick rn
2019-04-11 07:21
#80
device | 
United States Lazerz 
although i agree both have played well int he past 2 or so events, give the rest of the year and their shit will fall drastically
2019-04-11 08:13
#143
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United States k3ar 
Edward has been doing alright recently. Definitely not as bad as 2018
2019-04-11 14:50
#27
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Greece anwteros 
boltz
2019-04-11 07:21
#28
device | 
United States Lazerz 
maybe
2019-04-11 07:22
#151
jks | 
North America Fule 
Jks
2019-04-11 21:13
Byali 2k14-2k17 Kio
2019-04-11 07:23
Kioshima or maikalele
2019-04-11 07:29
#48
device | 
United States Lazerz 
which one is it? kioshima is significantly better then maik, so do u think kio is above average and maik is average, or kio is average and maik is below average
2019-04-11 07:51
Maik is belo2 average
2019-04-11 10:12
+1 agree with kio
2019-04-11 10:45
#32
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Slovakia gayzera 
Kioshima AdreN woxic ISSA
2019-04-11 07:30
#100
woxic | 
Turkey cemc_ 
woxic and kio?? OMEGALUL
2019-04-11 10:14
and issaa, in front of other hr players he is really decent
2019-04-11 21:19
#173
woxic | 
Turkey cemc_ 
+1 true best arap boy ı have ever seen
2019-04-11 21:49
#34
fnx | 
Other individual 
byali, rush, shroud, krimz
2019-04-11 07:35
Krimz on that list? Explain
2019-04-11 07:40
#45
device | 
United States Lazerz 
ppl calling f0rest device and flusha average, those guys are a tier ahead of krimz
2019-04-11 07:49
Krimz > those 3
2019-04-11 09:40
#95
rain | 
United Kingdom EKersh 
device > krimz > flusha > forest
2019-04-11 10:07
Ok, better
2019-04-11 12:41
#137
device | 
United States Lazerz 
lmao?? Device > Flusha = F0rest >>>>>>>>>>>>> krimz never top 5 never best player of a top 1 team barely top 10 in a year not top 10 all time
2019-04-11 13:23
Are we talking past or present? Past= flusha, f0rest > krimz Present = krimz >>>> f0rest, flusha
2019-04-11 14:16
the title is most average player ever so all time
2019-04-11 21:23
#61
fnx | 
Other individual 
decent as ct, bot on t side
2019-04-11 07:58
Try watching a game
2019-04-11 09:40
#112
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Germany Constikdw 
Gave me some 10 point bonus rounds at star series when I put him as Attacker :3
2019-04-11 10:50
Reality lies apperantly 😂 (in his case)
2019-04-11 12:44
#39
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
shazahm or however the fuck he spells it? maybe freakazoid hes been pretty average since 2016~ es3tag is pretty mediocre too gade is probably the most meh player i can think of though
2019-04-11 07:46
#46
device | 
United States Lazerz 
all of those guys are below average
2019-04-11 07:50
#49
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
all of them have a 1.02-1.07 rating, you can't get much more average then that yes ratings arent everything ik that
2019-04-11 07:52
#51
device | 
United States Lazerz 
big event rating not all match rating, check them again
2019-04-11 07:52
#58
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
fair point, i only looked @ all matches, my bad maybe cajunb is most average? i don't think hes ever been a star player in a team tbh, not tsm north optic or c9 (i assume) edit: didnt realise you said it at start
2019-04-11 07:56
#59
device | 
United States Lazerz 
cajunB has somehow defied the odds and been CONSISTENTLY average for a few years now hovering slightly above a 1 rating for a few years in a row, sometimes dipping below, sometimes going above, never high enough to be top 20, never low enough to be teamless idk bruh
2019-04-11 07:57
#60
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
it seems quite impressive when you put it like that tbh. only other person that i can think of thats like that is dephh, never low enough rating to be dropped even when they're are better alternative free agents and never enough to be picked up by a better team (c9 was a mess when they asked him to join)
2019-04-11 07:58
#63
device | 
United States Lazerz 
i would say, as a whole, cajunB has been more successful, had better teams and teammates, had better results, and played better than dephh besides maybe around the faceit major timeperiod where dephh just went god mode so it depends on ur own subjective definition of average
2019-04-11 07:59
#70
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
cajun and dephh have both been average in there respective scenes/teirs imo.
2019-04-11 08:03
#71
device | 
United States Lazerz 
yea tbh cajun's career is sorta dissapointing given the teammates he had Device prime for a few years Dupreeh prime for a few years Xyp9x prime for a few years Magisk preprime about a year K0nfig prime about 2 years and all he has to show for ALL of it is a 8 team event epicenter back in 2016 when they were the underdogs
2019-04-11 08:04
#74
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
id say the astralis' guys prime are all now tbh but they were no where near bad and he should have done more, just a shame they still had the danish choke curse back then. but only getting 1 event with prime konfig is criminal tbh.
2019-04-11 08:06
#75
device | 
United States Lazerz 
prime isnt just 1 year for example f0rest prime was basically 2004-2016 and he is still good today somehow device was #3 back to back with cajun xyp was top 10 or 15 i forgot, same with dupreeh, id say thats basically prime magisk was top 15 aswell with cajun in dignitas, same with k0nfig
2019-04-11 08:07
#78
Nifty | 
Russia Maxhehe 
no i know but i just feel that at the time period cajun teamed w/ the astralis guys they are no where near the level that are at now, it be for there individual skill or them fixing there choking issue and magisk under glaive is a much better player compared to magisk under MSL/friberg when he was in north/optic and as for forest surely there was a 4/5 month streak in that 12 year run where he was better then the other 11 years 7 months. would that not be his prime?
2019-04-11 08:11
simple?
2019-04-11 07:48
#47
device | 
United States Lazerz 
bruh
2019-04-11 07:50
he said average, not trash
2019-04-11 08:00
#65
device | 
United States Lazerz 
if s1mple is trash, and he almost single handedly beat ence at katowice, then BEAT ence while carrying with elec's help this time, what does that make ence?
2019-04-11 08:01
Major>starladder
2019-04-11 08:48
s1mple still fucked ence at both
2019-04-11 09:50
Who cares if some baiter is having good stats when his team is losing
2019-04-11 10:13
+1
2019-04-11 11:20
#125
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
We talk about average player not average team
2019-04-11 12:36
According to your logic, a player is good or sucks dick.
2019-04-11 07:53
#53
device | 
United States Lazerz 
i provided/agreed with multiple examples of average players when some dumbass says f0rest is average, what kind of response should i give
2019-04-11 07:54
seized? I like him but hes the definition lf averge
2019-04-11 07:55
#55
device | 
United States Lazerz 
perhaps in 2014-2017
2019-04-11 07:55
#56
frozen | 
France HYPNO5 
REZ ? felps ?
2019-04-11 07:55
#57
device | 
United States Lazerz 
id say rez is slightly above felps is average yes
2019-04-11 07:55
#67
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Israel wetz 
Rez is very good ,wdym
2019-04-11 08:01
#66
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Israel wetz 
Boddy
2019-04-11 08:01
#68
device | 
United States Lazerz 
2016-2018ish id say average late 2018-2019 he's been horrible
2019-04-11 08:01
#69
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Israel wetz 
He played okay
2019-04-11 08:02
#152
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France LanaRhoades 
No it was just that all of g2 was horrible , he didn't play horrible just as the same level than before. Btw as an entryfragger he would surely be above average by far
2019-04-11 21:16
What about shitdoodle?
2019-04-11 08:05
#73
device | 
United States Lazerz 
u said it urself shitdoodle
2019-04-11 08:05
#144
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United States k3ar 
Only good in 2015 and beginning of 2018. So maybe below average.
2019-04-11 14:53
#76
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India Hafnex 
Its definately Karrigan or oloof right now...
2019-04-11 08:08
#77
device | 
United States Lazerz 
karrigan is a known choker, all of his teams start off promising but end up failing he had dev/dup/xyp/kjarbye under his belt at one point 0 trophies gla1ve joins, 1 month later, ecs s2 win, 1 month later, major win, 1 month later kato win, 1 year later, 100 wins FaZe gets niko, loses to sk to every grand final, beats astralis at starladder, the least significant final they made, get sorta prime guardian and past prime but still top 20 olof, win NY/eleague premier, choke major due to shit tactics map 3 even tho niko top fragged, choke katowice similar story, team falls apart, ppl blame niko instead of karrigan
2019-04-11 08:10
#118
REZ | 
Belgium PrgMorris 
Don't forget oakland
2019-04-11 11:16
#136
device | 
United States Lazerz 
that too
2019-04-11 13:21
NBK; just check his rating on LAN per year, it's consistently around 1 - during 2014–2018 it is, respectively, 1.07, 1.07, 1.09, 1.07, 1.06. At big events the ratings are lower generally, even closer to the average.
2019-04-11 08:19
He's an igl leading a new team
2019-04-11 08:35
The present continuous verb tense indicates that an action or condition is happening now, frequently, and may continue into the future. Only through part of 2018 was he an IGL.
2019-04-11 13:11
#96
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North America AlanSmith 
i don't think the best player of 2010 can be most average player ever
2019-04-11 10:10
We're talking about CS:GO, aren't we?
2019-04-11 13:12
#149
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North America AlanSmith 
i don't think 5th the best player of 2013 can be most average player ever
2019-04-11 16:51
#154
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France LanaRhoades 
1.07 rating for his role is insane , he is support. Consistent doesn't mean average mate
2019-04-11 21:17
Well what do you want other than rating around 1.0 to be average? Of course I picked someone who is a support, star players aren't average, duh ... Average, imo, doesn't equal bad.
2019-04-11 21:48
And on a side note, his big events ratings aren't even that good for the most part.
2019-04-11 21:49
Anyone player ranked 30-45
2019-04-11 08:34
nothing, shroud, rush just to name a few from the NA scene.
2019-04-11 09:44
#88
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Ukraine kOVAzj22 
ScreaM nex gratisfaction xseven rpk
2019-04-11 09:47
Scream, gratisfaction and xseven are average players? :DD
2019-04-11 10:21
#108
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Europe Jansuuu 
top 20 next year
2019-04-11 10:43
#116
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Ukraine kOVAzj22 
seems like you dont watch csgo matches dude
2019-04-11 10:55
Seems like u are blind fanboy then, if these 3 guys are average players then flamie and edward are under average
2019-04-11 12:28
#146
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Ukraine kOVAzj22 
flamie was a rising star before joined navi , and before simple joined it he was 1 of the reason why navi was in top5 with such a bad roster with siezed edward and zues . so yes, flamie isnt average , but edward is bad without doubt
2019-04-11 15:05
#156
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France LanaRhoades 
Top 7 2013 and top 9 2016 average ? Okay
2019-04-11 21:18
#181
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Ukraine kOVAzj22 
Did u watch at least 1 game of GamerLegin where Scream is playing right now? Seems like no. Maybe he was good 3 years ago, but who cares? Markeloff was the best in 2010 and where is he now?
2019-04-11 23:08
#182
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France LanaRhoades 
3 years ago is not that far lol , 9 years ago is very far and it was another game , btw between 2017 and 2019 he didn't have real teams.
2019-04-11 23:13
#90
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Serbia s1v9mple 
Probably JW Pretty sure he was at 1.00 rating for a long time
2019-04-11 09:49
#92
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Indonesia edwardnauli91 
JDM64 +1
2019-04-11 09:50
edward
2019-04-11 09:51
Hunden
2019-04-11 10:26
#103
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
RUSH
2019-04-11 10:30
Rpk is a good shout
2019-04-11 10:34
#121
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France DirtyPerez 
I thought about it but fact is that he was a beast a loooong time ago and now he is kind of bad a lot of times making stupid moves
2019-04-11 11:20
Cajun
2019-04-11 10:36
#110
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France DirtyPerez 
vice ? RUBINO ?
2019-04-11 10:46
#111
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Algeria abdodz45 
Olof
2019-04-11 10:48
device
2019-04-11 10:50
#115
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Indonesia MeX0NNNN 
optic players
2019-04-11 10:54
#158
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North America SLGam1ng 
and optic na players
2019-04-11 21:18
OSKAR
2019-04-11 11:08
gETTTT RIGHT
2019-04-11 11:18
device is overrated
2019-04-11 11:19
It all kinda depends on what scene you want the player to be from...Every scene is different then the other. An avarage european player might play godlike in the Asain scene. but an avarage NA player might play below avarage when playing the the European scene.
2019-04-11 12:45
#140
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France DirtyPerez 
too smart for hltv users bro
2019-04-11 14:31
oof
2019-04-11 16:08
#129
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
brollan
2019-04-11 12:47
gade lekr0 RUSH NBK
2019-04-11 13:16
device
2019-04-11 13:17
Lekr0 and REZ
2019-04-11 13:20
Rush, x7, alexib, azr, fugly
2019-04-11 14:59
RUSH
2019-04-11 21:18
#157
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France LanaRhoades 
RPK , TACO
2019-04-11 21:18
Cajunb for sure he's never been bad but never great
2019-04-11 21:19
#162
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Latvia Agbetchok 
apEX
2019-04-11 21:20
rain
2019-04-11 21:21
K0nfig
2019-04-11 21:22
nitr0 a god Probably someone like N0thing and cajunb
2019-04-11 21:24
Maybe hazed? He used to not be super bad, so I'd be willing to neglect the fact that he doesn't play in a relevant team as of now.
2019-04-11 21:27
#169
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Norway Nordavind 
aizy
2019-04-11 21:29
#176
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Libya Neroz44 
Nitr0
2019-04-11 21:51
Fnx
2019-04-11 22:24
rpk or aizy
2019-04-11 23:20
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