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Steven Crowder
Other TheVyrox 
If you dont think that Crowder is a completely dishonest "autistic shill", I got news for you. youtube.com/watch?v=PrNmq4ouWww
2019-04-11 11:45
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NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
he is worse than Shapiro
2019-04-11 11:49
#4
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Finland ToxicDUD 
U hatin cuz they hold views u dont or cuz u hate the facts they often present. Or do u just believe that feelings matter facts dont?
2019-04-11 11:51
No? He never said why he dislikes him. How would you know what his reason to dislike Crowder is? And the whole facts over feelings thing isn't really a good thing to mention if he got the fact wrong. I hope you have a nice day though~! c:
2019-04-11 16:52
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Finland ToxicDUD 
he is dishonest human or made a false case once (while shit like cnn does one weekly
2019-04-11 17:09
So...? Still doesn't mean he dislikes Crowder because of different views on certain topics or that he hates facts. Wasn't defending CNN, nor planning to defend them either.
2019-04-11 17:13
#28
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Finland ToxicDUD 
then why is he so mad at conservatives?
2019-04-11 17:14
Where does he say that? He only said "he is worse than Shapiro".
2019-04-11 17:15
#32
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Finland ToxicDUD 
u calling people that have only thing in common being the fact that they are conservative what else is there?
2019-04-11 17:17
Personality, way of debating etc. It's not on me to name what else there is. It doesn't even have to be something they have in common.
2019-04-11 17:41
#49
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
"way of debating" ???????? I'm not debating i just said that i disliked Shapiro.
2019-04-11 18:10
And I never said you were c:
2019-04-11 18:17
#55
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
sorry, I misread. Watch this: youtube.com/watch?v=cZwOe2--VUg&t=
2019-04-11 18:20
No worries, it happens. Have a nice day~!
2019-04-11 18:19
#42
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Lithuania arres 
Dude, they both are dishonest hypocrites that skews everything to fit their agenda or to critisize the opposing opinions. Their goal is not the truth and facts but to win even when they are in the wrong. Just look at youtube. There are ton of videos where people go through their ramblings and point out inconsistencies, hypocrisies, etc. This kind of winning no matter what mentality is very prevalent in USA, it is happening everywhere. You must've heard the stories about state prosecutors who hides, destroys or falsifies evidence to win the case even when they know that the guy is not guilty. State prosecutors should not do that - they should represent people's interest and that is fair justice system where criminals go to jails and innocent people go free. That is mindblowing and it is the same mentality with these 2 here. They declare they care about the truth but all they care is winning by whatever definition they presume it to be. Nobody even mentioned anything about cnn, which I think they would also criticize on the same point about them being massively dishonest. And I do to, from what I saw, CNN is schills for the establishment democrats where nobody cares about truth and integrity as well. And all they care is to have their guy in power. No matter what this guy is.
2019-04-11 18:07
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halo | 
United States QastLe 
Tone is everything my dude. Without tone a set of words can have so many different meanings. If I say "Hitler is worse than Crowder" I could mean so many different things. If instead of asking you immediately assume what I mean and react in a negative fashion, then you have turned what could have been a statement that could unify into a meaningless hurling of ad homs. Also, both Shapiro and Crowder might be conservative, but Imo Ben is better looking so... Crowder is worse than Shapiro. Have a good day 😊
2019-04-11 18:01
#48
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
Im not mad LoL. I just dislike Shapiro. He is also an insufferable asshole, a pseudointellectual hack, and a terrible author.
2019-04-11 18:16
#21
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United States 4PP135 
I dislike Crowder because he's a dishonest shill; while I disagree with people like Shapiro, I can at the very least stand him most of the time.
2019-04-11 17:08
#46
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Lithuania arres 
speaking about standing... you can't tell if shapiro is standing or sitting if you are a bit further from him.
2019-04-11 18:09
#47
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
I'm not hating. Shapiro is just dumb.
2019-04-11 18:09
#59
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Finland ToxicDUD 
smarter than any leftist out there, nt bait
2019-04-11 18:35
#66
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
nope
2019-04-11 19:11
#67
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Austria raicoon1337 
Why is shapiro dumb?
2019-04-11 19:13
#72
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
I don't wanna write a 1hr comment here but let's just say he uses straw man fallacies all the time and is talking fast and is claiming things that aren't true.
2019-04-11 20:06
#74
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Austria raicoon1337 
Ah so you can't provide 1 statement
2019-04-11 20:08
#79
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
Why do i have to prove it? If my opinion is that he is a moron than that's my opinion. I'm not on HLTV to debate politics.
2019-04-11 21:51
He just provided three reasons as to why he thought Shapiro is dumb. You never asked for a statement, so he didn't have to provide one.
2019-04-12 10:23
Ben Shapiro and Crowder talk about feelings all the time when it comes to religious stuff, circumcision, abortion, basically all social issues. Economic policies they support such as always reducing the government deficit, aren't supported by any of Keynes theories which are the most dominant in all of the economics (multiplier theory, boosting demand increases GDP growth, public deficits are expansionary and public surpluses are contractionary to the economy). So no, they're facts don't hurt our feelings, their 'facts' are just wrong a lot of the time.
2019-04-12 10:28
Yeah +1111111111111111111111111111111111111111 I love them, telling the truth to all these brainwashed cunts.
2019-04-17 19:48
#91
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Finland ToxicDUD 
but cnn said they wrongg :((
2019-04-18 10:22
What truth though?
2019-04-19 10:01
#4
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Finland ToxicDUD 
U hatin cuz they hold views u dont or cuz u hate the facts they often present. Or do u just believe that feelings matter facts dont?
2019-04-11 11:51
Did you even watch the video? Or are you the type of "Facts dont care about your feelings, but I dont care about facts when they hurt my feelings" guy?
2019-04-11 11:57
#8
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Finland ToxicDUD 
he got a fact wrong but u suddenly hate the whole man and shapiro aswell? for one mistake while loving fake news cnn? nt bait
2019-04-11 11:58
He took at least two articles from shit sources without checking what the actual original sources are saying and misrepresented the original study findings so badly that he reported the OPPOSITE of what was found. He did a TERRIBLE job at his job and even misrepresented potholers position on a debate like the coward that he is. With a platform of nearly 4 million subscribers you have a responsibility for what info you put out there.
2019-04-11 16:47
#20
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Finland ToxicDUD 
thats 1 mistaken case now give me some more
2019-04-11 17:07
3, dumbass. You havent even clicked on the link, have you?
2019-04-11 17:10
#24
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Finland ToxicDUD 
same case (being the climate change)
2019-04-11 17:11
Oh, so every time he misreports and misrepresents and misinforms 4 million people, that just counts as the same 1 mistake? Are you really that much of a fanboy?
2019-04-11 17:12
#27
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Finland ToxicDUD 
nah. I believe that anyone taking a comedians word in almost completely scientific thing is stupid I do not believe media on this issue at all just read nasa or smth
2019-04-11 17:13
He is n-o-t just a comedian. His opinion is unfortunately regarded as "honest" reporting. He has a huge responsibility but he constantly uses his big platform to misinform people about climate change. He is an influencer. He is someone who shapes opinions. What he puts out, MATTERS UNFORTUNATELY. I watched quite a few of his videos before I stumbled upon the first one that could vaguely be seen as comedy. He is first and foremost a conservative political actor. So that excuse is out of the window. Its the same thing as saying, nobody should believe Trump on climate change because he is just a businessman. I AGREE, its just far from reality. He has a huge following and they just swallow what he tells them without any shred of doubt. He is dangerous and so is Crowder, just on a smaller level.
2019-04-11 17:21
#58
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Finland ToxicDUD 
I mean if u believe that climate change is serious enough that we need to fuck up our living standards ur the crazy one
2019-04-11 18:34
Our living standards have been exceeding what we should have as our standards since decades now. Our carbon footprints are often multiple times larger than what they should be, in other words, we would need more than 1 earth to sustain the consumptions and emissions from a lot of people. So its not crazy, its just an unfortunate reality.
2019-04-11 21:33
#81
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Finland ToxicDUD 
Do you honestly believe we are about to run out of resources on earth any time soon? even the next few centuries? Fuck man ur brainwashed
2019-04-12 10:19
I dont know about that so much, but one realistic reason that this is still working out is because the vast majority of people on earth in terribly poor conditions are of course not living as frivorously as us. If everyone was living like us, we would have EASILY run out of resources to sustain that standard for all 7 billion people and I mean EASILY.
2019-04-17 19:37
#90
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Finland ToxicDUD 
And are they going to live like us any time soon at this development rate? Also proof that there is not enough resources to keep 7 billion people satisfied?
2019-04-18 10:21
No, but that absolutely doesnt mean that we should just lay back and keep going like this. As you can see, its already warmed the climate by a lot and almost nothing is being done against it. Now imagine that x7. Well, on example is this: localtvktvi.files.wordpress.com/2018/02/.. Thats only due to the warming of the last 30 years of the 1 billion people in civilized countries. Imagine that x7. The brazilian rainforest has been decimated by about 17% over the last 50 years. worldwildlife.org/threats/deforestation-.. That x7 is 119%. It would be long gone. And if what this source is saying is true: livescience.com/27692-deforestation.html Then 50% of the worlds forests have been cleared over the history (lets say 500 years). That x7?
2019-04-19 09:29
#106
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Finland ToxicDUD 
and then tell me why is it not worth it or what should be done that is worth doing?
2019-04-20 20:54
Putting a lot more into informing people about global warming, pressuring companies to be more environmentally friendly and investing more into green energy.
2019-04-20 21:13
#109
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Finland ToxicDUD 
prices would go up which is rly inefficient
2019-04-20 21:32
Well, in an ideal world, every country would go along and so it wouldnt make a difference. Unfortunately, that is totally utopian, but yes, the prices would probably go up. Question is whether it would also decrease the peoples buying power. I bet that there are ways to minimize the damage of this, either by implementing other policies or letting the free market take over after having put in those regulations.
2019-04-20 23:07
#111
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Finland ToxicDUD 
so u would force people into consuming only a certain ammount? wouldnt that infringe on their freedom?
2019-04-21 11:25
Thats not what I said or meant. Anyhow, I think a limiting of that sort should be the last resort and should only be implemented if everything else doesnt work or isnt enough.
2019-04-21 13:53
Actually Our Planet on Netflix nicely shows how much of wildlife we have lost past years. Kinda sad to see tbh.
2019-04-20 20:59
Rude
2019-04-11 18:11
#51
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
Ben Shapiro is still stupid.
2019-04-11 18:11
why so? I think he's a great guy.
2019-04-11 18:16
#54
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
He is also an insufferable asshole, a pseudointellectual hack, and a terrible author. He is best known for his outspoken and almost entirely inaccurate criticisms of "left-wing" ideas
2019-04-11 18:18
Could you give some examples? Why is he so ''inaccurate'' after all?
2019-04-11 18:23
#63
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
prime example of leftists intolerance
2019-04-11 18:41
#65
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
"Everyone that dislikes Ben Shapiro is a leftist" -Henrioad
2019-04-11 19:10
#68
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
I would assume so, why attack a person that you have never met before and don't know personally?
2019-04-11 19:15
#70
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
wow dude I'm sorry. What you said is true: "why attack a person that you have never met before and don't know personally?" I've never met Stalin or Hitler so that means that they aren't bad, cool. ty for teaching me that.
2019-04-11 20:05
#71
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
imagine comparing a public speaker to mass murderers
2019-04-11 20:06
#73
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Flippee 
well you said: : "why attack a person that you have never met before and don't know personally?" So you don't agree with what you just said???
2019-04-11 20:07
#76
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
use common sense my guy
2019-04-11 20:17
You asked as if one cannot attack a person that you dont know personally. That is just a dumb statement in every way.
2019-04-19 10:03
#95
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
2019-04-11 21:17
2019-04-19 10:04
I was gone from hltv for a few days. But looks like you are going to do your best to find a cop-out.
2019-04-19 10:14
Hes aight
2019-04-11 11:50
Is CNN also aight?
2019-04-11 11:57
#3
Germany tmp1 
NA politics LMAOOOO
2019-04-11 11:50
CNN is straight garbage I enjoy his change your mind videos
2019-04-11 12:00
Why are straight garbage because they misreport stuff? Like he does? On shit that is actually important like climate change? He is just as bad as the MSM, dude. You have to hold him accountable. His change my mind videos are ok, but you should really see the one where he debates Yusef. Do you know the one I mean?
2019-04-11 16:49
#13
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Iceland cracker132456 
you sound like his biggest fan, have you seen all his videos or what?
2019-04-11 16:52
wtf?
2019-04-11 16:55
#75
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United States ferric 
So because he watches his videos and sees the mistakes means he supports him?
2019-04-11 20:13
Hes not a news show, its a late night comedy show. And Yusef was arguing that socialized services prove socialism works, but completely ignored the idea that workers own the means of production. Crowder did step out of line, however that debate wasn't really about socialism, rather if social services work or not. They were both idiots, crowder letting the debate go off topic and Yusef having no clue what socialism is. CNN has been caught fabricating their own news, having a left with bias and spewing anti white racism. This climate change rubbish has gotten so political its hard to know which side is right or wrong. I believe the climate is changing however I don't believe human are a result or that catastrophic events will occur if we do nothing.
2019-04-12 01:13
I hate it when people try to defend him based on the fact that he does some comedy here and there... His opinion is unfortunately regarded as "honest" reporting. He has a huge responsibility but he constantly uses his big platform to misinform people about climate change. He is an influencer. He is someone who shapes opinions. What he puts out, MATTERS UNFORTUNATELY. I watched quite a few of his videos before I stumbled upon the first one that could vaguely be seen as comedy. He is first and foremost a conservative political actor. So that excuse is out of the window. And if you have questions about climate change they can be answered quickly and concisely on www.skepticalscience.com
2019-04-17 19:45
#14
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Other bergkvisten 
politics are meh, it's just repetitive at this point
2019-04-11 16:53
#16
allu | 
Sweden Dguyg 
Crowder is easily one of the most dishonest conservative youtubers out there.
2019-04-11 16:59
Finally some sense in this thread.
2019-04-11 17:00
conservative youtubers as a whole are just garbage. watch three arrows
2019-04-11 17:01
#19
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
+1
2019-04-11 17:02
#29
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Norway PeteZz 
At least Shapiro makes sense. I just don’t agree with him on many things, and he’s way too focused on religion. Crowder is just a thug.
2019-04-11 17:14
Ben "Facts dont care about your feelings except when its my religion" Shapiro
2019-04-11 17:22
#61
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Norway PeteZz 
+1
2019-04-11 18:39
#37
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Other xrist 
Shapiro is just as stupid
2019-04-11 17:25
He's and egotistical maniac who is never wrong in his eyes, he is literally the definition of what the American system breeds.
2019-04-11 17:16
he's canadian
2019-04-11 18:40
rip wiseone
2019-04-11 21:36
#35
BelieveR | 
Finland FinTz 
This vid is over 2 years old btw... -_-
2019-04-11 17:24
Still hasnt enough views m8.
2019-04-11 17:29
#36
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Other xrist 
Steven Crowder also believes that Hitler was a socialist also the "change my mind" series is him just wanting to make people with other beliefs look bad
2019-04-11 17:26
Well... it was called national socialism for a reason though. There were some socialist aspects of Nazi economy, such as the nationalization of a lot of economic agents (companies etc. etc.). But yeah, he is generally quite dishonest. You should see his socialism is evil debate against Yusef.
2019-04-11 17:31
#43
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
he's arguing (in bad faith) against unprepared college students he refuses to debate people who actually know what they're talking about (like sam seder)
2019-04-11 18:00
#83
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
Well: 1. No one forces them to sit down and talk with him, it is all voluntary. 2. He only uses sources when the person asks for them, he generally speaks live. 3. He acts civilized in most cases, all the mental breakdowns come from his opponents.
2019-04-12 10:26
#41
ayaya | 
Ireland skend 
rubin, shapiro, crowder, candace owens they're all either dishonest or just stupid
2019-04-11 17:48
#44
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Iceland coolest_user 
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2019-04-11 18:02
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2019-04-19 10:05
He didn't even write the article, he may not have even read it. This criticism video is dishonest in itself. The reason people employ people is because they don't have time to do everything themselves, this includes fact checking sources. His employee obviously made a mistake here, a very long time ago too in terms of news. When I was growing up we were slammed with propaganda videos, which as children, we believed. They told us that by 2020 there would be population decline due to mass famine and that it would be too hot to leave the house during the day in much of the world. There have been many, many predictions which all turn out to be garbage. You will see when you grow up too mate. I'm all for environmental conservation, but spare the bullshit scare tactics and be sensible about it.
2019-04-11 18:38
When you are the head of a company or a channel with employees, YOU are the bearer of responsibility ALONG with the employee. And its not like he has taken down the article? And its not like he keeps producing content like this? And its not like he is directly involved in misreporting as shown in youtube.com/watch?v=qEylCS6-hBE&list=PL8..
2019-04-19 10:10
Yeah he is delusional.
2019-04-11 18:41
#69
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France 0racle 
the college campus intellectual xd
2019-04-11 19:16
The dude is a complete shill. Conservative youtube is a cesspool of misinformation and stupidity.
2019-04-12 10:26
lmao snowflakes. facts don't care about your feelings. Besides, he discusses American politics and beliefs, not EU.
2019-04-17 19:40
That is easily the dumbest and most irrelevant comment I have read on this thread.
2019-04-19 10:11
+1
2019-04-19 10:11
so in usa the climate change is not real but in eu it is? i dont get what the fuck you're trying to say
2019-04-19 10:11
lmao I'm just wondering why "your kind of people" is blowing up negatively because of one guy that speaks out and debates his controversial topics using actual data and facts. lol I dont get why the fuck you tryna act so tough
2019-04-20 02:09
did you watch the fucking video? he used an unreliable source to prove his point. i actually watch his "change my mind" episodes, those are cool but this is just retarded
2019-04-20 08:28
blows my mind how many non americans are into american politics
2019-04-19 10:05
Yeah, its because the US have this natural tendency of making 1. Stuff that shouldnt be entertainment about entertainment, such as politics where the person wins that has the best 7th-grader disses instead of the facts *cough* Trump *cough* 2. everything extreme and way overblown and sensationalistic. So american politics are basically like an accident, you dont want to look at it but you just cant look away.
2019-04-19 10:13
#112
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Brazil Br4tZ 
this is where i sit and watch some good fights
2019-04-21 11:29
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