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Vegan youtuber went back to meat
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Poland teacandothat 
She was a vegan, got ill due to her diet and went back to animal products. Now please tell me how veganism is good for you youtube.com/watch?v=rHjaKB0A14A&t=68s
2019-04-11 23:20
#1
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Finland mrboombasticXD 
B12 Zinc Iron Omega 3 Vitamin D Calcium Protein Riboflavin Missing all those on a vegan diet.
2019-04-11 23:23
#4
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Poland teacandothat 
better take tablets containing these vitamins cos its natural
2019-04-11 23:24
#31
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Czech Republic _s0 
acting like nowadays GMO shit, animals on steroids, and plants filled with fertilizers and roundup are healthy
2019-04-12 01:10
still healthier than grass LUL
2019-04-15 11:48
Why isn't gmo healthy?
2019-04-15 11:51
#201
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Sweden Zaser5 
some think it is causing cancer
2019-04-15 11:53
anyone who has any idea how gene modification works will know that that is nonsense and there couldn't possibly be a connection there (not in general, anyways)
2019-04-15 11:55
#213
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Sweden Zaser5 
Yes but it is not the smartest people that is extremists so they don't care as long it don't support their beliefs
2019-04-15 12:43
#222
Loh | 
Russia Romashish 
+1
2019-04-15 14:07
#244
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Czech Republic _s0 
roundup is absorbed by gmo plants it easily kills insects and small animals for sure its healthy for people
2019-04-15 19:12
did I say "in every single case" or did I say "not in general"?
2019-04-15 19:13
Then don't use roundup lmfao? What is this logic? GMOs have the potential to feed the entire world
2019-04-20 01:15
#315
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Czech Republic _s0 
flag checks out mosanto' worker
2019-04-21 19:27
Get this, you don't have to use roundup on plants dingus
2019-04-21 23:20
This +1. Same people flart earth, lizard people etc
2019-04-16 06:42
#217
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Fake flagger from California????
2019-04-15 13:46
#218
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Sweden Zaser5 
no, I would rather die, I'm all in for gmo, I said some says it causes cancer
2019-04-15 13:47
My brain hurts reading this. Only thing you miss out on is B12 and vitamin D.
2019-04-11 23:42
My brain hurts reading this. Vitamin D comes from the sun and you get it when you are exposed to sun.
2019-04-12 01:06
I am fully aware where Vitamin D comes from. But if you live in a place where the sun does not come up in the winter. You get your D from fish, milk etc.
2019-04-12 06:35
No, you get it from supplements brcaude thr dosagages from snimal products are way too low (no, 1000IU a day is not enough haha)
2019-04-12 10:12
#84
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Switzerland BottomFragger 
+1 finally someone with a brain
2019-04-12 13:07
#106
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Czech Republic rusteD 
Thats why the nordic countries drink fishoil since ages...
2019-04-12 16:53
#147
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Denmark Twick_ 
And/or eat a lot of fish
2019-04-15 09:26
And/or are white as christmas
2019-04-15 10:46
#179
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Ey, not nice
2019-04-15 11:14
Only a swede could take this as offense
2019-04-15 11:36
#224
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
So what you are saying is that being white is better?? I think im going to have to call the police
2019-04-15 14:11
Yeah, it's better
2019-04-15 21:40
#266
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Estonia MC_Ride 
whites are better here in europe and blacks are better in africa nothing racist about that just facts
2019-04-15 22:35
#208
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Denmark Twick_ 
Dude Yo right
2019-04-15 12:05
#165
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World Vidua 
Fish oil is a supplement in that sense. They don't consume it as food.
2019-04-15 10:48
#214
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Czech Republic rusteD 
Yeah while its still an animal product.
2019-04-15 13:28
#215
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World Vidua 
But it is processed and turned into pills so what does it matter if you take one made from fish oil (carnivore), sheep wool (vegetarian) or lichen (vegan) when all are equally valid?
2019-04-15 13:37
#225
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Czech Republic rusteD 
Read #75 then read what you just wrote. Think about it and i hope you realize that you are completely derailed.
2019-04-15 14:12
#226
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World Vidua 
Can you elaborate?
2019-04-15 14:13
#239
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
No.
2019-04-15 14:47
#246
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Czech Republic _s0 
vegan destroying animals expected
2019-04-15 19:18
#176
Jame | 
Romania qAp 
Swed confirmed
2019-04-15 11:10
Wrong. Several amino acids, EPA, DHA, among other things don't exist in vegetable products. Also iron is difficult to obtain through only vegetables.
2019-04-12 01:13
Gmo veggies grown on dead soil yields empty veggies. She ate empty veggies and unfortunately putting a bad rep on vegan diet.
2019-04-12 03:07
organic produce is worth it LOCAL produce is even better +1
2019-04-12 03:37
Yes indeed my friend!! 😎👌 👌 👌
2019-04-12 03:40
Iron is difficult? You know the biggest source of iron in a average diet comes from bread and grain.. but heme iron is ONLY in animal products.
2019-04-12 06:41
heme iron is a pro-oxidant and has other damaging effects. Non-heme iron has no similar toxicity.
2019-04-12 14:10
#159
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Norway bruhfessor 
heme iron is best. God damn vegans are so brain washed
2019-04-15 10:03
Because vegan science is mostly propagated by antisocial hippies who like to assume a lot when factuality is vital... This is what you become when you've been missing out on B12 for a lengthy period, a complete retard because of faulty nutrition and none of them are aware of it. They just treat that shit like it's something negligible, arguably the most complex yet sensible organ.
2019-04-15 12:08
#145
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France HYPNO5 
+1
2019-04-15 09:24
Omega 3 is actually highest in Chia seeds
2019-04-11 23:52
As ALA which the human body is incapable of converting to long chain DHA and EPA at a sufficient rate for optimal health.
2019-04-12 01:10
another unsupported myth. I've had my blood tested after only consuming ground flax/chia/hempseed and walnuts and had good levels of DHA and EPA. Plus it's not impossible to supplement a good quality algae for DHA/EPA.
2019-04-12 03:37
Unlikely and regardless anecdotal. Supplementation is not the topic.
2019-04-12 04:16
how are objective results like a blood test anecdotal?
2019-04-12 13:00
You need to learn what anecdotal means. I think your kind of stupid isn't fixable.
2019-04-12 13:17
anecdotal - adjective adjective: anecdotal (of an account) not necessarily true or reliable, because based on personal accounts rather than facts or research. So how exactly are blood test results from a medical Dr. not facts?
2019-04-12 13:49
Because it's a personal account. You're a sample size of 1 and you're suggesting that because you claim your blood test came back okay it proves something.
2019-04-12 13:56
but I'm not the only one who has adequate levels of DHA/EPA from eating pure ALA sources. There is research on this, not much but enough to convince one it's effective. My blood tests confirmed that my body is capable of converting enough ALA. Besides there is no downside to consuming more chia/flax/hemp seeds as well as walnuts. Every plant food has tiny amounts of ALA in it anyways. You honestly sound like me a few years ago, so staunchly against a plant based diet without ever actually trying it for myself.
2019-04-12 13:58
#171
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Norway bruhfessor 
Yes the conversion rate to EPA is a nice 0-4% for males lmao
2019-04-15 11:02
#216
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World Vidua 
Which means you got to eat how much specifically? Few table spoons of chia or like a dozen of walnuts. Tragic.
2019-04-15 13:44
#227
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Norway bruhfessor 
No, vegans have half the amount of omega3 in their body than meat eaters due to this
2019-04-15 14:14
#229
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World Vidua 
1. I don't care about generics. I only care about my results. 2. Half is irrelevant value. Is it enough? If both get enough it doesn't matter who gets more.
2019-04-15 14:16
+1 meat eaters continue to hate us cause they aint us
2019-04-15 14:18
#250
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Norway bruhfessor 
Lol I dont hate vegans. I feel sorry for their lack of scientific knowledge and extreme ignorance that will make them believe voodoo influencers online Majority of vegans are urban single women with onset of mental disorder, and they will go to extreme diets thinking they have solved the world
2019-04-15 20:26
#249
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Norway bruhfessor 
In children it is more obvious when their brain has developmental issues due to omega3 deficiency. In adults having deficient omega3 will just slowly rot your brain and nervous system. Same like 96% of vegans being deficient in b12, but it will takr about 5years before they start showing health problems
2019-04-15 20:23
#252
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World Vidua 
If there is deficiency. But there isn't one.
2019-04-15 20:27
#99
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Austria db42 
im actually suprised to see so many people who actually know shit about food here lol
2019-04-12 14:12
>know shit about food >B12 Zinc Iron Omega 3 Vitamin D Calcium Protein Riboflavin Missing all those on a vegan diet. are you retarded
2019-04-15 11:06
#240
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Austria db42 
was more meant that this isnt a 0/8 bait +1 poorland etc thread, i have no fucking clue what anyone talks about here anyway, i know nothing about this stuff
2019-04-15 17:36
#251
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Norway bruhfessor 
He forgot creatine
2019-04-15 20:27
creatine is an essential nutrient now? Lmao
2019-04-15 21:34
#261
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Norway bruhfessor 
Creatine supplementation gave a significant measurable boost to brain power [to vegetarians who were deficient in it unlike omnivores]. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3145223.stm
2019-04-15 21:40
yeah I know that. I've even supplemented in the past during heavy training sessions based the research. I've seen studies that show creatine monohydrate supp. improving omnivores lol. Nowhere is there mention of it being an essential nutrient for human health. Nice try though, once again you're grasping at straws and have no real argument against a whole foods plant based diet.
2019-04-15 23:24
vittu sä olet tyhmä neekeri
2019-04-15 11:06
Vegan from birth nothing happening
2019-04-15 14:05
I got ill due to my meat diet and went to vegan diet. Now please tell me how eating meat is good for you
2019-04-11 23:24
How the fuck did you get ill from eating meat, if not raw?
2019-04-11 23:25
too much meat is no good. You should only have as much as the palm of your hand a day
2019-04-11 23:29
so this guy thinks eating meat is bad because he eats to much ok
2019-04-11 23:43
favela iq
2019-04-12 00:53
#59
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Brazil Haschera 
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-04-12 03:14
#168
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World Vidua 
No, he made an analogy to the case of the girl in the video. She ate RAW plant based diet. She also ate too little calories pretty much every day. She wasn't a healthy vegan, she was an idiot with eating disorder. Millions of people that eat meat, have eating disorders and get sick. In fact, most developed countries lose tens of billions due to people like that. Her diet type is not the reason behind her issues. All peer-reviewed, medical research says that vegan diet with B12 supplementation can be healthy for absolutely everyone - healthy, unhealthy, young, old, even pregnant ladies or newborns; it just has to be balanced and provide all macro nutrients.
2019-04-15 10:53
"she was an idiot with eating disorder" yes thats basically veganism in a nutshell
2019-04-15 11:52
#232
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
Looooooool +1
2019-04-15 14:17
#254
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Norway bruhfessor 
hard rekt
2019-04-15 20:27
#290
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Argentina M4estre 
+1 OMEGALUL
2019-04-16 00:09
I eat way more meat than that, sometimes about 3 or 4 ribs at once and I am still ok, and that kind of meat eating is normal in my country. I don't really see anyone in my country going vegan tho considering we have like 6 times more sheep and about 15 times more livestock than the population.
2019-04-12 01:22
im a mongoloid, freaking ghenggis
2019-04-12 01:54
yup Chingis spread his sperms everywhere
2019-04-12 15:23
at least i dont need sun tan lotion. Gee is my mongolian rapper all day
2019-04-12 21:35
+1
2019-04-12 03:07
Ok, another one. Like everyone that spends enough time as vegans to start dying.
2019-04-11 23:24
these people are not the role models of a proper vegan whole food diet, they are egocentric and just jumped on the hype train not understanding how to sustain a whole food plant based diet for optimal health. It can be done and have incredible health results you just need to learn a lot. I'm vegan and have been for two years. Please tell me how I am starving or malnourished twitch.tv/lte143
2019-04-11 23:26
#7
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Poland teacandothat 
most if not all vegans go back to animal products after a while because they cant sustain their bodies. youtube full of videos about these people
2019-04-11 23:26
this logic is so stupid. people sustain plant based diets for 5, 10, 15, 30+ plus years in many cases. You just do not see trendy youtube videos about them and you are too close minded to listen to doctors like Colin Campbell or Caldwell Esselstyn.
2019-04-11 23:35
#13
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Poland teacandothat 
stupid logic? where? you have literal ex-vegans telling you how it was bad for them. what else do you want? veganism is a trend and will die off soon. /closed
2019-04-11 23:38
vegan =/= whole food plant based diet one is trendy, one is a scientifically proven optimal way of eating for human health and longevity
2019-04-11 23:39
you seem to be the only person in this thread with half a brain "you cant get protein from a plant based diet" what the fuuuck
2019-04-15 11:11
thanks bro, Im trying to fight the good fight. Give me a follow if you like twitch.tv/lte143
2019-04-15 14:19
If you want to discuss anything seriously in your life you need to understand that anecdotal evidence is no evidence. I guess you haven't hit university yet. This is the absolute basis of a discussion.
2019-04-12 01:15
Even highschool goes over that for you
2019-04-16 01:15
#15
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Poland teacandothat 
+ you can read that 1/2 of Campbells and especially Esselstyn's research was misleading. bye
2019-04-11 23:39
lmao what an explanation
2019-04-11 23:52
Campbell's research is a meme
2019-04-12 01:20
nice explanation...
2019-04-12 03:14
#255
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Norway bruhfessor 
wrong 89% of vegans have stopped veganism before 5years, which is when serious b12 vitamin deficiency eould set in unless supplemented. All other deficiencies would be pretty severe already then
2019-04-15 20:29
You need to understand that vegan youtubers are .00001% of vegans. They are in for the money and not because they read 10 books on nutrition, examined studies and exchanged words with doctors.
2019-04-12 01:08
+1111 Finally high iq person thank you
2019-04-12 03:08
<3
2019-04-12 03:13
#8
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Lithuania Sedge 
thank you kornelius, very cool
2019-04-11 23:27
old
2019-04-11 23:27
#10
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Germany YarrakJunior 
I would give her my meat and slap it against her head
2019-04-11 23:29
Name absolutely checks out xD
2019-04-15 11:18
Why are meat eaters so insecure? You are the majority position yet you are so fragile that you constantly attack vegans unprovoked. The science is in: when done right, veganism is healthier. It's also morally superior. But you want something easy that you like and tastes good. That's fine dude, whatever. Why don't you just accept that about yourself? You are so obviously insecure because you are aware of your moral and dietary inferiority.
2019-04-11 23:40
+1
2019-04-11 23:45
#20
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Japan KAMlKAZE 
0/8
2019-04-11 23:47
+1
2019-04-11 23:58
+1 xaxaxaxa
2019-04-12 01:10
0/8 lmao, morally superior? Animals are literally part of my body, you vegans know nothing of being animal and you try to claim moral superiority! Aaaahahahaa idiots. Meat is far healthier and animals get to live a life they wouldn't have if we didn't eat them. You vegans would have a world without animals. Scum.
2019-04-12 01:20
youtube.com/watch?v=1pO1eOWJtEY 18+ warning This life? :DDDDDDDD
2019-04-12 01:31
Your country could do with some regulations men. Cute piglets though <3 They'll be tasty in a year or so.
2019-04-12 01:35
#181
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Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
bro im no vegan, i love my meat ...but your "animals get to live a life they wouldn't have" - argument is fucking stupid lmao
2019-04-15 11:15
+1111 omg love high iq ppl
2019-04-12 03:08
#57
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New Zealand joshwaah 
This is true. An intelligent debate between a meat eater and vegan, meat eater has to lose every time by accepting that at some point their morals are flawed. There is no way I'll stop eating meat but I have to accept that my morals are flawed at a certain point. This isn't to say Vegans are overall morally superior. We are all flawed in one way or another. If your only flaw is that you eat meat, you are doing pretty fucking well.
2019-04-12 03:12
0/8
2019-04-12 13:06
+1
2019-04-12 17:42
morally superior you made me giggle
2019-04-15 10:25
Not an argument
2019-04-15 10:44
#175
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Norway bruhfessor 
Lmao there is also no research saying veganism is a healthier diet. On the contrary there is a lot of research on the deficiencies developed and under development of kids following a vegan diet
2019-04-15 11:09
well fucking done? i just stated that you made me giggle
2019-04-15 12:28
#183
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Replace veganism with vegetarianism and youre right
2019-04-15 11:16
#212
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Australia Mr.Sinister 
Morally how?
2019-04-15 12:39
women got vegetarian/vegan only because they think it's easier to keep their weight in check
2019-04-11 23:49
#253
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Bulgaria Omaiguudnes 
Holy shit makes sense
2019-04-15 20:27
Hippies are cool if they just smoke their marijuana away from me, anyways, humans are meat-eaters since 10.000 BC, why would everyone just change the way of living of our race just because is cool? Fuck off...
2019-04-12 01:04
#30
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Denmark slacking 
"Now please tell me how veganism is good for you" how is that video proving anything? lmao
2019-04-12 01:10
#37
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Faroe Islands ruski_puski 
poland brain, ignore him lol
2019-04-12 01:18
#33
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United States MrFornino 
Isnt the best diet based on your genetics? Or am I a stuupido.
2019-04-12 01:11
Genetics and lifestyle. So yeah, you're correct. There's no one size fits all diet, which is why general nutritional advice from reputable sources is always to 'eat a balanced diet'. A small amount of red meat, fish, poultry, dairy and a variety of fruit and veg is a diet that pretty much has everyone covered (barring specific dietary diseases and disorders). Veganism can work for some people but it's generally not healthy, which is why there are so many people becoming 'ex-vegans' at the moment.
2019-04-12 01:28
You do know that you are arguing against the biggest nutrition and health institutions world wide with renowned doctors and scientists on a basis where your argument is lifestyle Youtubers that in almost every case have body image disorders and eating disorders?
2019-04-12 01:37
You're very wrong on both points. There are fringe health institutions and doctors who recognise there's money to be made from veganism. The most reputable sources indicate meat as an important part of a balanced healthy diet. Also my arguments have nothing to do with youtubers, it's merely an amusing and expected result of the vegan movement.
2019-04-12 01:40
Like the American Dietetic Association? ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 or... ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27886704 And if anything, there is money in the animal products industry because it is indeed a billion dollar industry, unlike "veganism". But I'm sured you already have nightmares about the broccoli and tofu industry. I'm not even vegan but you clearly are uninformed and ignorant. :D
2019-04-12 01:49
These sources assume the inclusion of supplements and fortified foods along with nutritional consultation, which would be with a professional from the nutrition and dietetics association. This is not a study but a position of an organisation which operates on the basis of people paying them for advice. ie. there's much money to be made from a diet which is actually not capable of providing the appropriate level of nutrition without, by their own admission, supplements and fortified foods. They also have a pro-vegan ideological position as evidenced in their statement regarding environmental impact, which is entirely irrelevant when providing dietary advice. Stop pretending it has anything to do with health. Also, I didn't say a vegan diet can't work, in fact I literally said "Veganism can work for some people..." with the assumption being that those people invest a significant amount of time and effort, probably also money, into making sure they can sustain the diet. The alternative is just to include some meat in your diet and not be deficient because you're eating what your body has evolved to require.
2019-04-12 02:09
>you're eating what your body has evolved to require. what is that exactly?
2019-04-12 03:04
0/8
2019-04-12 04:20
incredible refutation just kidding
2019-04-12 13:01
#178
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Norway bruhfessor 
eggs. From hunter gatherer times, next comes beef, at bottom comes vegetables. This can be seen from protein absorption analysis
2019-04-15 11:11
nice explanation of essential nutrients we need from beef and eggs... LMAO
2019-04-15 14:19
#248
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Norway bruhfessor 
”evoled to require”. If egg protein absorbs the best at 100% scaled, beef would be at 80% and gluten and nuts around 40%. Whey isolate protein would be around 155% but it is unnatural. We didnt evolve to digest plants which is why we cant even absorb cellulose, the main energy ingredient in plants unlike cows. They have the correct aminoacid and mineral combination to maximize absorption. Also things like b12, creatine,omega3 in correct forms and so on. Sorry to break your vegan bubble. You will likely not want to listen to the truth, because veganism is part of your identity and when I tell you beef is healthy and show proof you will ignore it because accepting it would delete your ego and ruin your way of life
2019-04-15 20:19
I mean honestly you can do whatever the fuck you want but all I've heard from you is utter nonsense and childish hate directed towards people you disagree with. I'll keep eating a whole foods plant based diet which is very different from a typical vegan diet.
2019-04-15 21:35
I could list plenty of other institutions and governments that are striving towards a plant based diet. But I'm too lazy to do so and everything you said can be reflected on your diet choices as well, so basically, since we are arguing without sources here, we've come to the end of this conversation.
2019-04-12 10:17
You don't know my diet or the reasons for it. The sources you provide in support of your claim are evidence against it and by your own admission in #41 supplementation is necessary to make a plant based diet sustainable. FYI I suffer from crohn's disease and, vegetables not being sufficiently nutrient dense or low in fibre, I couldn't survive on a plant based diet even if I wanted to. I don't want to however, because there are zero health reasons to switch and I don't find the ethical reasons compelling enough.
2019-04-12 13:23
have you ever even tried a whole foods plant based diet though?
2019-04-12 13:55
Many crohn's sufferers have had to give up their place in the vegan cult due to having to re-introduce meat into their diets. My diet is based on consultation with my gastroenterologist and nutritionist. It's almost exclusively whole foods. Plant based is not a viable option.
2019-04-12 14:00
you realize eating plant based properly to change your gut microbiome takes some time? I'm willing to bet if you stuck with a wfpb diet for a year you'd see your symptoms get better. Everyone eating a western diet growing up has tremendous damage to the gut microbiome in terms of overbalances of bacteria that prefer refined sugars/carbs and also there is new evidence that certain bacteria species can prefer animal protein and produce a toxic, carcinogenic byproduct after metabolizing it. Not so great when you look at what soluble and insoluble fiber does for our gut health. Nature's prebiotic.
2019-04-12 14:03
I don't think you know what crohn's disease is.
2019-04-12 14:07
I know that it's likely caused by poor diet and lack of fiber. I had 3 friends who nearly died because of Crohn's. They all were skinny and athletic but ate absolute garbage.
2019-04-12 14:07
Okay you definitely don't know what crohn's disease is.
2019-04-12 14:08
tell me Senpai, tell me how it's all genetics and you had no fault in causing it
2019-04-12 14:09
There's really no need to be a condescending fuck just because you have zero idea what you're talking about. It's an autoimmune disease, it's not even remotely diet related.
2019-04-12 14:15
"It's an autoimmune disease, it's not even remotely diet related." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034518.. and you are calling others ignorant... the irony
2019-04-12 23:10
So you link a study which doesn't find an association between dietary factors and autoimmune diseases, presumably having not read it, and call me ignorant? Firstly, you misuse the word irony, but right back at you kid. I'm using diet to assist with controlling the severity of symptoms when I have them but it plays absolutely no role in causing the disease process. There are other theories which are just as promising regarding the increase in hygiene and in particular the reduction of parasites being the problem. The fact that you thought that article would prove a single thing shows just how limited your understanding of the scientific process is. I've been working in medical science for over 15 years, I've seen studies come and go with all kinds of promise, some succeed, some fail. An hypothesis doesn't equal a conclusion.
2019-04-12 23:33
Okay so you were eating a really nutritious diet and exercising yet you still got crohn's? Yeah sure bud...
2019-04-12 23:34
Actually yes. I've always had an exceptional diet, I grew up competitively swimming and it was impossible to perform without it. Yet again you show that you have absolutely no understanding of what an autoimmune disease is.
2019-04-12 23:36
"Also, I didn't say a vegan diet can't work, in fact I literally said "Veganism can work for some people..." with the assumption being that those people invest a significant amount of time and effort, probably also money, into making sure they can sustain the diet." why are you still even commenting here? you already admitted that properly planned vegan diets are healthy for people. Why must you be so negative against it in general? Any significant diet change requires time and energy, also behavioral changes. Not necessarily more money especially in the case of plant based diets. (dried beans, rice, fresh produce is cheap af) So your perfect diet was full of fibrous vegetables, you never drank any soda/energy drinks or never ate any fast food/processed food right? Sure...
2019-04-12 23:57
I'm commenting here because you have zero understanding of what an autoimmune disease is and you're trying to spread false information. The article YOU linked clearly states that there's no link between the cause of autoimmune diseases and diet, they're investigating whether diet can be used for treatment, but again, no definite association. That aside, yes, my diet was high in fibrous vegetables, I NEVER eat fast or processed foods and I consume absolutely no processed sugars. I've now significantly reduced my fiber intake as part of my crohn's management diet and it's working amazingly well. I still have a very healthy diet, but I've altered the vegetables I eat and increased my meat intake slightly. Vegans really do themselves a disservice trying to suggest that there are health reasons to switch. There are not. Yes, a vegan diet is possible to sustain for people without specific dietary requirements. Congratulations.
2019-04-13 00:18
lots of words and no real wisdom. You already admitted that a vegan plant based diet is healthy for some, it just takes some work and eating meat is easier. AKA it's for lazy people. At this point I also flat out don't believe that you got crohn's disease but you never ate processed food/fast food or drank sodas. I just don't believe you for one second. There had to have been a weak link in your diet causing the inflammation of your digestive tract. Healthy people don't just develop crohn's for no reason because of genetics. It's sad but true, diet is responsible for nearly all diseases and conditions. I don't blame my childhood allergies and asthma on genetics it was the shitty diet I had.
2019-04-13 00:25
You're extremely narrow minded. Eating meat is the only way I can sustain myself, vegetables do not have the nutritional density I require. With very little work, a balanced diet including meat is extremely healthy. With much more work, many people could achieve the same on a plant based diet. But most people prefer to slaughter animals for their delicious meat.
2019-04-13 00:28
nice attempt to sound edgy near the end there bud. I don't really care to continue a discussion with you any longer. I'll continue to enjoy having consistent and pain-free bowel movements and digestion tho :D
2019-04-13 00:30
I hope you do. I forget sometimes that veganism is a cult. It's like talking with religious people about evolution whilst eating their god every day.
2019-04-13 00:35
I don't promote veganism. I promote a whole foods plant based diet that technically is a vegan diet. A vegan diet is a stupid definition though. Oreos and french fries could be a vegan diet. There's a big distinction.
2019-04-13 00:41
There is no 'one size fits all' diet. Promoting any diet is ridiculous, different people have different requirements and to exclude an entire food group as a possible source of nutrition is not wise, especially when some people require meat.
2019-04-13 00:45
"especially when some people require meat." I'd love to see some scientific evidence to back up that claim.
2019-04-13 00:46
What's amusing is that you think you know more than specialists who study for over 8 years and work for a further 6 to obtain their qualifications. I have no need to find evidence, I've experienced it myself and I'm operating on the advice of my gastroenterologist and nutritions, both of whom have studied in the field extensively. If you would truly love to see some scientific evidence you can seek it out yourself. Vegans.
2019-04-13 00:50
Ah nice, so you're appealing to authority, a logical fallacy. Well done.
2019-04-13 00:51
That's what you're doing with your vegan BS. The difference being that vegaism is a cult, medicine is science.
2019-04-13 00:54
LOL, you honestly sound jealous.
2019-04-13 01:02
#170
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World Vidua 
> These sources assume the inclusion of supplements and fortified foods along with nutritional consultation, which would be with a professional from the nutrition and dietetics association. Yeah, B12 - that's also added to mass produced cow milk because those cows are so malnourished, and also injected into meat cows and pigs because they can't get it from total crap they eat. Every omnivore supplements B12 daily, they just aren't aware. Vegans have decided to skip the middle-men and just feed that thing to themselves. Or heck, you can eat a bowl of natto every day if you're that insane but I'll take a pill. As for professional consultation, isn't like 40% of developed countries' populace overweight? Those people could use professional consultation as well. What's wrong with professional consultation?
2019-04-15 11:01
Also, uninformed and ignorant? If you want to see an ignorant person, find a mirror.
2019-04-12 02:14
#36
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Faroe Islands ruski_puski 
because she was vitamin/mineral deficient. im pretty sure you can sustain yourself with a vegan diet, given you take all the required supplements, but you gotta talk to dietitian beforehand or else you're gonna end like that stupid youtube hoe or worse.
2019-04-12 01:17
#105
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
"supplements" is the key here. You need to take extra nutrition since you cant get it from the food...
2019-04-12 16:52
#108
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Faroe Islands ruski_puski 
Yep, supplements are a must for most diets tbh, but especially for vegans.
2019-04-12 17:57
#109
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
If you have a balanced diet. You dont need any suplements... Look up food pyramid
2019-04-12 17:58
#172
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World Vidua 
Cows producing meat and milk get so much B12 injections that you'd cry if you had to get that many shots. So when you eat either diary or meat from mass production you actually supplement B12. Naturally those products would have very little because those cows eat absolute crap. The only balanced omnivore diet is if you buy very expensive, sustainably farmed meat and diary or hunt for meat. Most people don't so eating plants with B12 pill a day gets you the same.
2019-04-15 11:04
#180
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Norway bruhfessor 
Wrong. psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/diagnosis-.. Also you dont get creatine from vegan food
2019-04-15 11:14
#195
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World Vidua 
She's a psychiatrist and cites very little sources. I'll take well-known, honored nutritionists opinion over a psychiatrists that wants to treat vegans from their "eating disorder". Remember that doctors considered an illness and tried to treat homosexuality just a few decades ago as well. As for creatine: 1. Our body produces creatine itself, to a limit, but enough to be healthy. And the production actually increases when you don't eat meat at all. 2. The rest can be consumed from foods or supplements. There are obviously vegan supplements but there absolutely are plans that have creatine, for example cranberries. 3. You only need to supplement it if you are a weight lifter or body builder. But if you're one you are going to be eating powder supplements anyway to increase your performance so it's no different than if you were an omnivore.
2019-04-15 11:46
I was vegan myself for 6 years and did not have any problems with any kind of nutrients at all except B12. Well, it wasn't really a problem because I supplemented it and the problem was gone. Only problem for me was that B12 supplements caused very bad acne problems so after 6 years I got tired of it and now I eat 10-15 eggs a week and maybe 200-300g of fish to get my B12, not more. The acne problem with B12 isn't researched well yet, there are only studies showing that some people indeed have problems with it. Other than that I would say, from my personal experience, that a vegan diet is completely sustainable and I would still follow a plant based problem if I wasn't so acne prone with B12 supplements. In general I would say the average human isn't ready for the vegan diet though, there is a little bit of planning involved, not much. And after a few weeks of learning it's just like anything else. BUT 99% of people have no clue about nutrition. Not even the people that claim to. I think the best way to go at the moment would be heavily plant based and maybe 10-20% from animal products like fish and eggs. Dairy is completely out of the question, it's been proven to be completely unhealthy and I see more benefits in fish than in meat so I'd cut it out as well.
2019-04-12 01:27
+1
2019-04-12 03:05
#71
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Brazil Mentecapto 
what about chicken A little bit of chicken can't cause any harm right? RIGHT?
2019-04-12 04:19
I see more nutritional benefit in a bit of fish than chicken. Personally don't see it as taste pleasure.
2019-04-12 10:14
#103
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Brazil Mentecapto 
KFC is calling me right now
2019-04-12 15:47
15 eggs a week? Lmao. Your cholesterol levels can’t be healthy. Yeah, veganism is just as healthy as a meat-based diet. Animal-based, whatever. Faggots.
2019-04-13 01:16
#140
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United States snack- 
you're either a troll or really stupid
2019-04-14 00:40
both flag and name checks.
2019-04-14 00:51
#143
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United States snack- 
dietary cholesterol has been disproven as a nutrient of concern. Turns out this name and flag check out as factually correct
2019-04-14 01:11
I eat like 25-30 eggs a week and meat every day, never felt as healthy as i am right now ;] if u really believe in those myths about eggs you must be seriously retarded
2019-04-15 11:55
his brain is a vegetable at this point, no point arguing
2019-04-15 13:50
#182
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Norway bruhfessor 
I eat steak and fruits everyday and I deadlift 200kg and am very healthy, very good diet
2019-04-15 11:16
im sure every vegan on HLTV would go back to their old ways because of how convicing your post is
2019-04-12 03:38
#169
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Other nt_newfag 
why does everyone hate on vegans? they don't affect you in any way and they are actually doing something good for the environment.
2019-04-15 10:53
#184
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Norway bruhfessor 
yes importing avocados to iceland from south america via airplane is such good much wow
2019-04-15 11:16
why every oversensitive cuck assumes someone hates him? we dont give a fuck what u eat, we just occassionaly laugh off beta males like you. You can even eat your own shit, i really dont care. But the fact that you vegans are so sensitive about this topic makes me think if this diet doesnt fuck up your hormones or smth, because normal grown man doesnt act like such a oversensitive, crying, pussy.
2019-04-15 11:59
Im not a vegen or a vegetarian but the only sensitive people in this whole play are the vegan haters. I have never once encountered a vegan who has tried to enforce his eating habits on me or someone else for that matter , however ive heard plenty of people shit on vegan. Its like when the sceptics hate on feminists , the people bitching about them are more common than the actual people doing it . Kind of fascinating
2019-04-15 18:55
this thread is idiots who know nothing about nutrition prentending they are smart
2019-04-12 03:43
I don't claim to be an expert on nutrition. I do however claim to know enough on how to properly plan a whole foods plant based diet that promotes health and longevity.
2019-04-12 03:55
nice article from a peer reviewed scientific medical journal... oh wait LUL its just some shitty article written by a rando MD who likes the taste of meat
2019-04-15 14:21
#247
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Norway bruhfessor 
I understand your brain is already damaged, but if you would look more carefully it has references and it is not a random tabloid and much more credible than your vegan forum heme propagandas lmao
2019-04-15 20:12
0/10 there are peer reviewed articles showing negative effects of heme iron. Can you again show me a peer reviewed article on plant based diets and mental retardation? No you cannot.
2019-04-15 21:36
#262
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Norway bruhfessor 
There are plenty... For example vegan kids tend to be smaller in stature and lighter in weight than standards for the general population and have delayed brain development. Nations with high vegan population, like India, have an average IQ of 80. This is pretty good considering many African nations with scarcity of meat have an average IQ hovering around 60. The creatine study I showed you earlier clearly showed that deficiency reduced their IQ, while adequate levels raised their IQ back to normal. Also your heme iron propaganda is just stupid. Have you realized heme iron is used for instance in your hemoglobin that transfers oxygen in your body. It absorbs much better than plant iron, which is a good thing.
2019-04-15 22:27
refined sugar is absorbed faster in the body than plant sugar, thus it's better. That's how retarded your logic is.
2019-04-15 23:26
#273
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Norway bruhfessor 
What is retarded is that you probably dont even know what molecules refined sugar and ”fruit sugar” is made of to make a stupid statement like that. I also said better not faster meaning you dont shit the rest out but get to use more of it. It is nutritionally more valuable
2019-04-15 23:34
lmao you're so obviously retarded, it's not even worth continuing this discussion. I'm gonna keep getting fitter and stronger while you keep projecting your own hatred and ignorance on others. Peace bro!
2019-04-15 23:35
#277
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Norway bruhfessor 
Google the molecules and tell me what they are, then you will understand how silly your statement was
2019-04-15 23:36
bro I've read multiple textbooks on nutritional biochemistry okay. Not any sort of "vegan propaganda".
2019-04-15 23:37
#281
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Norway bruhfessor 
So why is it so hard to spell it out bro
2019-04-15 23:39
you're so retarded you don't even understand my point making that comment. I realize refined sugar is absorbed faster by nature of the molecule and how it is digested. My point is that not everything in nature that is MORE or FASTER is BETTER FOR HUMAN HEALTH. Why is that so hard to spell out. I get plenty of iron on a plant based diet. My bloodwork has been fantastic for 2 years. I've reversed multiple health conditions I nearly required surgery for.
2019-04-15 23:41
#286
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Norway bruhfessor 
No you dont understand my point because you dont know what the actual difference between refined sugar and "fruit sugar" is. I am happy you reversed your health conditions, but maybe you had them in the first place due to obesity in and a McDonalds diet. There are lots of people who reverse a lot of conditions by going on a carnivore diet, and I think both extremes are what they are - extremes.
2019-04-15 23:51
I don't need to explain that to you to make the comment that I did. Your way of arguing (if you can even call it that) is asinine. Enlighten me senpai about the actual difference between fruit sugar and refined sugar oh enlightened one. I was never obese, at most 15-20 lbs overweight.
2019-04-16 00:02
#292
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Norway bruhfessor 
Refined sugar aka table sugar is a combination of glucose and fructose. Fruit sugar is just the fructose part. Vegan forums will often say fruit sugar absorbs much slower, but it is not the case it is already cut and it absorbs faster. The real idea is that you compare actual fruits to juice or soda. When you eat an orange you also get some fiber and filling from it and take your time, but when you drink a glass of juice or soda, the sugar amount is comparable to eating say 6 oranges at once, which you would most likely never do in real life. And this is what makes it unhealthier, the amount of sugar.
2019-04-16 00:10
"but it is not the case it is already cut" LMAO you are actually retarded thinking you understand this stuff. It is already cut HAAHHA what a comment. I'm done wasting my time with an idiot like you, really. Don't reply
2019-04-16 00:11
#295
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Norway bruhfessor 
You are just going full retard now. Clearly if you ever even read basic highschool biochemistry you would know what I meant.
2019-04-16 00:14
Who cuts it? You're actually misusing the cutting term for this. It's used to describe enzymes cutting peptide bonds. It literally has no relation to different types of sugar molecules. No one or nothing cuts the sugar molecule in fruit to just be fructose. It's like that because of nature. Again showing you are trying to sound really smart but actually are ignorant.
2019-04-16 00:18
#298
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Norway bruhfessor 
You are just going full retard now lmao
2019-04-16 00:29
so it's not used to describe enzymes separating peptide bonds? Care to explain where I'm wrong?
2019-04-16 00:31
#301
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Norway bruhfessor 
No sorry, I started with the assumption you are just highschool educated but now that I realized you are just another degenerate (not a surprise though due to dietary choice) I dont have interest to continue teaching you anything lmao :)
2019-04-16 00:35
basically conceding the argument... I see.
2019-04-16 00:40
#265
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Norway bruhfessor 
Ever wondered why some vegans are very pale? It is due to iron deficiency
2019-04-15 22:28
I'm the first person in my area to get a tan. I was outside in shorts and t shirt early may while everyone around me was bundled up in coats still. Nice generalization again. I doubt you even know any real vegans.
2019-04-15 23:25
#276
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Norway bruhfessor 
Im talking about anemia not tanning, also nice anecdotal shit again which is a defense mechanism due to veganism being part of your identity
2019-04-15 23:35
your statement isn't based on any evidence though, it's purely anecdotal as well! "Ever wonder why some Swedes like metal? It's due to the cold of Scandinavia. " same shit
2019-04-15 23:37
#280
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Norway bruhfessor 
No, vegans HAVE lower iron levels on average, it is not anecdotal
2019-04-15 23:38
can you show me a simple study documenting all these various vegans suffering from malnutrition and dying because of not eating dead animals? I realize there are unhealthy vegans but all of the studies looking at vegans eating a plant based diet show their health thrive. This is fact. I don't promote veganism (oreos and french fries) I promote a whole foods plant based diet.
2019-04-15 23:40
#289
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Norway bruhfessor 
Children die every day in africa due to malnutrition of rice diets. I assume you dont mean these or indian rice and bean diets, but western avocado diets that are magically much better, because you eat avocados from south america, and perhaps algae from japan and cocoa beans from north africa etc. In western civilization, when you start feeling ill you have the nice option of buying a steak or going to the doctor, which is why 89% of vegans are not vegans after 5 years. When you look at vegan societies like 500million indian vegetarians you see that their average IQ is 80, diabetes twice more than Sweden, and they have a lot of problems in general. In USA beef consumption has halved since 1970s. They used to eat 40kg beef per person on average in a year and nowadays 20kg. You know what has happened with their health? Coronary heart disease has become 5x bigger. Because the problem is not in meat but in sugar/junk food, which has skyrocketed since 70s, and the actual junk food has become very processed compared to what it was in the 70s. Simple pubmed search would yield you lots of results like: biochemistry issues: pubs.acs.org/stoken/presspac/presspac/fu.. lack of omega 3, fatty acids, b12 in ==> smaller brains: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18779510 vegans have 30% lower creatine levels: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15673098/ Vegans poorer bone density, low vitamin d: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700 The adoption of the vegetarian diet tends to follow the onset of mental disorders: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124.. Populations that habitually consume vegetarian diets have low zinc intakes: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23595983 Iron deficient: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640 omega problems: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5705809.. academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/92/5/1040/.. --- sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1.. "atmospheric depositions and marketing systems of vegetables play a significant role in elevating the levels of heavy metals in vegetables having potential health hazards to consumers of locally produced foodstuffs." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4837749.. "The regular consumption of vegetables grown in sites can cause detrimental effects to the human population. The authors strongly recommend that consumption of tuberous and leafy vegetables from these sites should be restricted and continuous monitoring of vegetables from these sites should be done." Im not even trying here, there is just so much research on it that you dont read on your vegan propaganda forums about
2019-04-16 00:04
"In Western cultures vegetarian diet is associated with an elevated risk of mental disorders. However, there was NO EVIDENCE FOR A CAUSAL ROLE of vegetarian diet in the etiology of mental disorders." from just one of the studies. Your reasoning is so absurd to hate on a properly planned whole foods plant based diet. Just do a search "plant based diet" instead of "vegetarianism" or "vegan." I'm done arguing with an absolute asshat like yourself.
2019-04-16 00:10
#294
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Norway bruhfessor 
"Your reasoning is so absurd to hate on a properly planned whole foods plant based diet. Just do a search "plant based diet" instead of "vegetarianism" or "vegan." I'm done arguing with an absolute asshat like yourself." This is why I told you earlier there is no point debating with you since veganism is part of your identity and you cannot recieve any criticism of it. You are not alone, majority of vegans are like this as veganism is a more of a cult than just a diet. It is a belief that some chosen vegetables and fruits will cure all illenessess and so on. Good luck with your diet.
2019-04-16 00:12
what? Are you actually stupid? Your comment literally doesnt make sense in relation to mine. I follow a whole foods plant based diet that just happens to be vegan. I disagree with youtube vegans on many things. Do a search on ncbi for "plant based diet" and you'll find the real evidence.
2019-04-16 00:14
#307
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
Hahaha.. you made a point here looking at the replies to your post
2019-04-16 01:30
#66
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World ///fuck 
watch vegan gains instead
2019-04-12 03:44
simnett nutrition
2019-04-12 03:55
#312
SS | 
Europe ApziIsKing 
Rymdkommunist
2019-04-19 14:57
#313
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World ///fuck 
Whats your issue
2019-04-20 01:11
#70
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Brazil Mentecapto 
i'd hit that i'd also cum in a few seconds then sleep
2019-04-12 04:18
#78
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Europe 4siim0v 
There are plenty of people on a vegan diet who do it the smart way and they're healthy and strong. Check out Nate Diaz for example. He is a UFC Fighter on a vegan diet. There's always two sides. You could eat good quality meat, work out and be healthy as fuck. You could also eat shit meat sit on a couch and get ill. So yeah basically it's not black and white, you can supplement all the stuff your organism needs with or without meat. Don't base your opinion about a big topic like this on a single, individual case.
2019-04-12 10:20
Nate Diaz uses steroids. Your argument is invalid.
2019-04-13 01:17
#144
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Europe 4siim0v 
Yeah because you would know XD
2019-04-15 09:17
#189
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Norway bruhfessor 
diet must be Hood since there is one ELITE ATHLETE using heavy supplementation Who is semihealthy with it... LMAO
2019-04-15 11:18
Why am I not surprised hltv has a problem with veganism lmao. this website really breeds a new level of morons.
2019-04-12 10:22
HLTV is a place where people feel they have to defend everything they do, often by attacking what seems to be opposite to what they defend. Many of them are narrowminded, and will not show any interest towards something which challenges their belief system. They will dismiss it without further investigation, often by using belittling words towards the challenger, "hoping" he will back down for fear of being ridiculed. It's their own fear they are projecting onto others, believing they have the same inherent fear of having your very own beliefs, unprotected by social and political norms. My advice: Get out of your comfort zone, and be yourself, instead of a socially programmed entity fighting for acknowledgement by adhering to norms.
2019-04-12 13:12
I'm not even vegan but i know a few vegans and they are healthy and fit AF. But you are right the amount of narrowminded people on hltv is quite high. It's a shame.
2019-04-12 23:10
nt leftie
2019-04-15 12:01
You have plenty of examples showing the opposite. Meat eating people having their health significantly boosted by going vegan. I am a meat eater myself, but can see lots of benefits from eating vegan diet. Your sweat will become almost odorless, your digestion will improve about 100% of the time, better consciousness from not supporting animal misery in farms and so forth.
2019-04-12 13:05
try it for 2 weeks man. You'll most likely love how you feel. For starters eat the daily dozen and you'll be covering most bases. It's good to track on cronometer if you're starting out fully plant based as well. nutritionfacts.org/app/uploads/2018/03/m..
2019-04-12 14:12
#104
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
Veganism = malnutrition Thats a very well known fact.
2019-04-12 16:50
#191
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Norway bruhfessor 
+1
2019-04-15 11:19
+1
2019-04-15 12:02
so egocentric person who jumped on the hype train of veganism now regrets it and switches back oke.....
2019-04-12 18:05
+1
2019-04-13 01:04
pretty much
2019-04-15 12:04
survival of the fittest men B) we need to eat meat to survive B)
2019-04-12 21:37
#119
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United States snack- 
I eat over a pound of meat a day and 8 eggs, I have perfect blood pressure, no artery plaque. I am very muscular and have 0 vitamin deficiencies. Meat is more bioavailable than plants in literally every single macro and micronutrient. It provides everything that is needed to sustain the body. Don't say anything about vitamin C or antioxidants or even fiber. Antioxidant research is now being done that supports digested antioxidants have zero support on levels in the human body. Plant antioxidants are NOT the same as the antioxidants that your body produces. In the same way vitamin C is not necessary without the presence of carbs (they compete for the same receptor= more vitamin C needed for more carbs). Another main argument against meat and animal products is saturated fats and dietary cholesterol. Once again they have been disproven as they are not causes for heart disease. The only thing that supports any of this shitty vegetables and fruits are good and animal products are bad is shitty epidemiology that is riddled with bad science and biased conclusions.
2019-04-13 00:07
Holy shit that's a lot of meat, are you full carno?
2019-04-13 00:41
#139
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United States snack- 
nah I was for the month of january tho
2019-04-13 22:49
how old are you though? There are no long term studies of excessive animal fat or protein consumption. What are your cholesterol levels, total and all subtypes?
2019-04-15 14:24
#271
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United States snack- 
I'm 20 to be fair, but blood pressure, triglycerides, HDL, and LDL, and inflammatory markers are all within healthy levels. Also there are I think three studies I can think of off the top of my head with followups longer than 20 years. I could probably find them if u want
2019-04-15 23:31
20 lol, yeah continue eating that way at your own risk. "all within healthy levels" that's a nice way to avoid listing any actual objective number
2019-04-15 23:32
#284
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United States snack- 
lmao what do you want my entire blood test numbers? I can pull em if you want. Go find me a study that's not garbage epidemiology loaded with bias that has definitively proven that saturated fat and dietary cholesterol cause heart disease. What you'll probably find is that none of those studies that claim this in the conclusion controlled for any type of carbohydrate or had any kind of caloric restriction. I think we can all agree that overeating like an asshole probably isn't good for health
2019-04-15 23:42
just total cholesterol, hdl, ldl and trigs. Pretty common for people to actually list those numbers unless they are hiding something. Okay so what you're asking for is like in the 50s asking for a randomized controlled trial showing that smoking cigarettes definitively causes lung cancer. What you'll find is that we didn't need that sort of evidence to know it did. The epidemiology is enough. No one is arguing that refined carbohydrates or continuous caloric surplus is good wtf. Did you ever stop and think that both saturated fat and refined carbohydrates are not good? Because that's what the data shows unapologetically.
2019-04-15 23:47
#303
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United States snack- 
Well see that's where epidemiology is not sufficient because that's where it's difficult to control for variables such as low carbohydrate intake WITH high saturated fat intake. Also for reference the epidemiology for tobacco use came up with risk factors of 300-1000% increases in risk compared to the statistically insignificant from chance because of lack of controlled variables of 18% with the typical colorectal cancer relative risk increase.
2019-04-16 00:42
Hey are you trying to say fruits are not necessary to eat in life?
2019-04-15 23:55
#304
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United States snack- 
correct
2019-04-16 00:48
I'm vegan for almost 9 years *FeelsGoodMan*
2019-04-13 01:03
Guess you just dont care about your period man.
2019-04-15 11:18
#192
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Norway bruhfessor 
Yes youre honeymelon diet has lowered your IQ enough to reach a level of stupidity where youre incapable of producing meaningful thoughts anymore😎
2019-04-15 11:21
Don't be so envy.
2019-04-15 17:46
terrible bait but gl living with all those hormonal disorders, low iq and other shit LUL
2019-04-15 12:06
Well, you obviously deal with that somehow... I think I can live with that too.
2019-04-15 17:47
no u lul
2019-04-16 00:30
No u.
2019-04-16 06:39
im just happy its not that delusional guy that eats raw meat every day i try not to eat chicken tho the problem with all these vegan thots is that they think some fruits and berries in fucking almond milk every meal will nourish them
2019-04-13 01:07
Ethics aside, eat a healthy diet and routinely get blood work every 3-6 months and see what your bloodwork shows you're deficient in and or causing you issues. Genetics play a large role in dietary effects on the body and my cholesterol was barely raised eating 2 pounds of steak a day with eggs / salmon / cheese / yogurt etc which might cause massive issues for others. Regardless a lot of these morons will tell you to entirely avoid cholesterol and saturated fast and fructose but in the right doses they are essential for the body to function correctly.
2019-04-13 01:41
#141
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Japan v_for_vici 
Any diet that only focuses on a specific type of food is bad for you
2019-04-14 00:46
#146
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Denmark Weylyn2 
I'm many afraid this happening to my gf
2019-04-15 09:25
propose to go to your doctor and get some blood tests. make a deal. if all is fine you wont complain about her being vegan and if there are issues with either of your blood you will both improve your diet. just her being vegan should be enough to warrant a test, and you can just fake some story about feeling really tired lately and insist on getting a blood test as well.
2019-04-15 10:02
#220
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Denmark Weylyn2 
Actually, I was just kidding, my gf has been a vegan for like 4 years now and I've never noticed any problems whatsoever, we have however only been to together for a week....
2019-04-15 14:03
still a good idea for her to get a blood test, just to make sure she is getting all her nutrition, although i guess maybe you will have to phrase it carefully to avoid having a fight about it.
2019-04-15 14:14
#231
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Denmark Weylyn2 
ahahha no way I'm asking her that
2019-04-15 14:17
yeah smart. its a shame because it would be a good thing to do. if only it was possible to discuss such things rationally with women who have strong opinions on certain subjects...
2019-04-15 14:18
#148
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France HYPNO5 
dude please can you stop hating on veganism ?? like just let vegans be vegan the typical vegan hater speech is getting so boring
2019-04-15 09:31
Lmfao,did you see the video?or at least read the comments?I guess not.This horrible piece of a youtuber thot was profiting by promoting harmful diets to people like 25 days fast diet with only water e.t.c.,she started to see that her health started to deteriorate so she made a video to apologize for her awful suggestions and guess what,she put 6 fucking ads in her apologizing video and all her shitty vegan videos still have adds which means she still makes money.Horrible person and I believe she should be banned if not cursed to death. youtube.com/watch?v=rHjaKB0A14A the people agree and want justice (likes to dislikes and comments)
2019-04-15 09:38
#151
huNter | 
France HYPNO5 
but the problem is this retarded girl not veganism .
2019-04-15 09:56
Since the community is toxic like that,and i can find you many other channels this retarted,its safe to say that its natural for people to hate veganism since the image of veganism is in the hands of these retards
2019-04-15 09:58
THIS
2019-04-15 09:58
Just let people do what they want, why cant morons like you just give up on this useless fucking debate? If you want to eat meat - eat meat, if you want to eat vegan products - go for it.
2019-04-15 09:32
Eating a shitty diet will get you ill no matter if it is vegan or omnivorous. You can eat a healthy vegan diet and you can eat a healthy omnivorous diet. Just because she is a retard does not mean a certain diet is also bad.
2019-04-15 09:58
Exactly.
2019-04-16 06:43
Who cares ?
2019-04-15 09:59
its not that being vegan has to be unhealthy, its just harder to be vegan and get all your nutrition because you cant eat a lot of stuff. so a lot of people who dont do their fucking research will get it wrong. its 2019 ppl, cant you move on to issues that matter?
2019-04-15 10:00
is she high or just brain-dead?
2019-04-15 10:01
She's simply weak and gave up , thats all. There are millions of people not eating meat and still remaining healthy , therefore bad diet + her weak mind = her. Solved/Closed.
2019-04-15 10:04
Who cares more meat for me
2019-04-15 10:26
#166
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Italy 1257Legend 
LMAO
2019-04-15 10:48
i see alot of stupid people in this thread lmao
2019-04-15 10:50
toilet cleaner brain
2019-04-15 11:18
Imagine caring about others people diets. I eat meat whenever I want to and I never felt the need to "educate" people about their diet. PS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism_by_c.. A third vegetarians in india and several countries with 7% or more vegans. And Im sure we all have heard about a third on india being malnutritioned, right?
2019-04-15 11:24
Insane 0\8 thread lul
2019-04-15 11:52
Vegans? Mentally disabled people with eating disorder /close
2019-04-15 11:52
thank you, now youtube promotes me vegan videos in recommendations
2019-04-15 14:10
Jebaited.
2019-04-16 06:42
There is no way im going watch 33minutes of some crazy lady
2019-04-15 14:16
wank
2019-04-15 23:25
I would try being a vegan but it would probably cost 5 times my current food budget, so no thx.
2019-04-15 20:33
it actually doesn't
2019-04-15 23:34
#263
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Brazil bandicoot 
been on full keto vegan intermittent fasting for over 10 years and never even had a cold. Maybe she just didnt know how to eat properly on vegan diet, thats pretty common actually
2019-04-15 22:17
Anecdotal evidence fallacy
2019-04-15 22:18
"look at this single vegan that took the hype train and then doubled back, clearly vegan diets arnt sustainable." Your so stupid.
2019-04-16 01:18
good for her, veganism is a dangerous cult.
2019-04-21 23:23
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