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TL + auti - who?
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United States Pyreon 
You cabt really take out stew because they play vastly different roles, and plus, they have synergy and used to play off of eachother really well, so who?
2019-04-20 19:43
-overrated2k +auti
2019-04-20 19:44
+1 lol
2019-04-20 19:44
#5
EliGE | 
Turkey Emriqueta 
+auti would be dope af
2019-04-20 19:46
#8
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
But wont happen, taking Stew onstead of auti was the biggest mistake possible and they did it
2019-04-20 19:47
#11
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United States Pyreon 
Youre literally autistic if you think auti could have played the role that stew plays in liquid. Autimatic as an awp on that team would be amazing, however, autimatic as a support would be underwhelming at best.
2019-04-20 19:50
overrated2k has been pushing Twistzz out of his positions making Liquids real star player play worse. C9 without Godimatic would be a rip
2019-04-20 19:59
#44
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United States Pyreon 
???? Ok buddy.
2019-04-20 20:06
he is right
2019-04-21 20:40
do you really believe the reason twistzz underperforms is stewie taking his space..piss on this fucking tard,twistzz has been underperforming more than 3 months his also misses a lot in big games russel got his own problems and its looking like if he continues like this his going to be the one whose going to get cut
2019-04-20 20:07
Underperforming more than 3 months? hltv.org/stats/teams/players/5973/Liquid..
2019-04-21 02:24
#109
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Belgium zygijelcy 
Xd armenian math checks out
2019-04-21 15:44
i especially pointed out that his missing on big games
2019-04-21 20:36
2019-04-21 22:15
#53
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Norway SaltySausage 
naf is their best player
2019-04-20 20:32
Ehh elige has been in the best form generally it took naf a bit of time to gain form after a good ibp
2019-04-21 02:18
#100
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Norway SaltySausage 
naf is still their best player
2019-04-21 03:23
I think with autimatic, TL will be more rigid and like European teams. But would need changes in tactics otherwise -stewie +autimatic will make Liquid able to compete Astralis for top spot.
2019-04-20 20:51
Nitro awps and Stewie can (is okay) at awping. Godimatic has been awping for the better part of a year so far which means he would have to get back into rifling. IMO, Stewie isn’t the right choice for Liquid but neither is Autimatic (+ without auti c9 would be Disbanded9).
2019-04-20 21:34
I think Autimatic is better AWPer than both. Autimatic can be something like zywoo,s1mple if he gets more chances. And I think shuffling of AWP doesn't help Liquid much. They good to go for opening picks with AWP but not to utilize mid rounds mostly. With autimatic it can change. But yeah c9 are in so much trouble. They might make a comeback now with roster change.
2019-04-20 21:55
C9 were in trouble* This roster looks pretty solid. I think CajunBAD is just a temp player/ placeholder but even with CajunBAD C9’s form is looking good.
2019-04-21 02:16
He has played one tournament in a new team you cant judge him yet but you know you can judge? Rush who has been in bad form for months
2019-04-21 02:19
RUSH had a good performance last night. His performance is understandable. He is a support player and that’s a role greatly affected by an unstable roster.
2019-04-21 02:35
#93
n0thing | 
Peru firev_ 
actually autimatic is a player that can perform a lot of roles he was entry lurker awper.
2019-04-21 02:32
As an AWPer?
2019-04-20 20:47
caralho?
2019-04-20 19:47
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2019-04-20 20:31
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2019-04-20 20:34
* English only
2019-04-20 20:36
Quoting your bio: "Baitzera is probably the most popular mischaracterization of any pro player. It's like half of hltv have never watched him play." Don't troll
2019-04-20 20:37
Nt budget Greece
2019-04-20 20:38
my flag is as real as yours
2019-04-20 20:39
#85
YNk | 
Germany PeetM 
Yea but your flag is the flag of budget greece bro
2019-04-21 02:18
Greece is already budget greece
2019-04-21 02:43
#63
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Cambodia litdabber21 
how burger is an insult they taste good usually
2019-04-20 20:42
#25
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United States Pyreon 
Only saying hes overrated because you slipped out of top 10. ;)
2019-04-20 19:59
How is this in any way related to mibr? Stewie is the worse fragger in team liquid, even the Ingame leader in nitr0 frags better than him
2019-04-20 20:31
#39
rain | 
Finland FocusMen 
+1 Auti AWPing lately so would be the best
2019-04-20 20:04
#3
COCAINE | 
United Kingdom Kansur 
-stewie +dephh
2019-04-20 19:44
why though?
2019-04-20 20:43
STEWIE2KKKKKKKKKK
2019-04-20 19:45
#7
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
Stewie is the worst player in Liquid Imo. And I'm not saying he's bad.
2019-04-20 19:47
#14
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United States Pyreon 
Id argue that twistzzz isvworse only because of his inconsistency as of late.
2019-04-20 19:51
#15
Aleksib | 
Finland Mitzu 
Stewie isn't really consistent either, or did you forget his meltdown on cache? And Twistzz has higher peaks. But I mean, everyone can have their opinion. (:
2019-04-20 19:52
Lol are you on drugs mate
2019-04-20 19:58
Twistzz has been inconsistent because when Snake2k plays good he pushes Twistzz out of the picture tanking Twistzz’s performance.
2019-04-20 20:00
He has, but his ceiling is too high in my opinion for Liquid to lose.
2019-04-20 20:01
Somebody (ha haa)
2019-04-20 19:48
Cloud9 China haHAA
2019-04-20 19:59
xaxaxaxaxaxxaxaxaax
2019-04-20 20:01
From all the options, I would remove eliGE, even if he’s prob the one with the highest skill celling(getting great stats as a entry fragger, that’s impressive). Stew could take his role as he did in C9/MiBR and still be a great agressive player that’s his style of playing The canadian double are just the main force of the team and it would be stupid to take any of them out of the team, as they are insanely skilled. Yes, NAF’s role is pretty similar to Autimatic’s one, but the first is vastly superior, in my opinion. Nitr0 is IGL and a great rifler, taking the AWP out of him would unleash his potential to be a actual top 20 player. No one else in TL can take the IGL role if he goes, so replacing him with Auti is as stupid as -zeus +s1mple/-karrigan +adren Considering all that, EliGE is the one to go if you want to make a move, but I wouldn’t change a shit in this line, tbh
2019-04-20 19:50
It’s cool how everyone is saying -stew without considering roles and positions, expected from HLTV.
2019-04-20 19:51
#17
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United States Pyreon 
What im saying bro. Autimatic as a support would be absolutely saddening. Like swag in lazzarus
2019-04-20 19:54
Swag always top 1 in our hearts😔
2019-04-20 19:55
#22
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United States Pyreon 
Yes. #freebrax
2019-04-20 19:56
#51
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United States DervGuy 
Exactly, people just too fucking dumb to notice it
2019-04-20 20:31
But autimatic is far from an entry He fits naf by far the best role wise
2019-04-21 02:20
Are you actually illiterate or what?
2019-04-21 02:28
Stewie2k is the second best player in Liquid in my opinion
2019-04-20 19:51
#16
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United States kearCS 
NAF Twistzz EliGE nitr0 and stew are interchangeable but nitr0 is IGL anyway.
2019-04-20 19:53
#19
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United States Pyreon 
If we look at impact frags its Elige Naf Stewie Nitr0 Twistzzz(inconsistency)
2019-04-20 19:55
wtf is this list lmao
2019-04-20 21:58
#78
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United States kearCS 
That's gonna be a yikes from me dawg
2019-04-20 22:00
Twistzz Stewie2k Elige Naf Nitr0
2019-04-20 20:05
#48
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United States kearCS 
0/8
2019-04-20 20:11
#80
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United States Pyreon 
8/8
2019-04-21 00:49
yes
2019-04-21 10:02
This is 100% accurate
2019-04-20 21:59
#18
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Korea DubuDahyun 
Trust me you don't really appreciate fully what Stewie brings to a team until you lose him
2019-04-20 19:54
#21
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United States Pyreon 
C9 fan feelsbadman :( I agree with you, stewie is great.
2019-04-20 19:55
they're pretty damn good atm, why would u wanna change that just gotta get over the whole choking thing but ya know, not much to do about that role/skills wise, I think the best thing to do would -nitr0 +autimatic for a true NA superteam but that's a long shot since that's your IGL and he's arguably playing better than auti rn
2019-04-20 19:58
Sad that you mention -nitr0, he's the reason liquid is #2, true talented skilled igl
2019-04-20 20:03
#40
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United States Pyreon 
Closest swap for auti tho, and stew igl 😍
2019-04-20 20:04
When stew loses focus, he won't perform, nitr0 is reason for top NA team
2019-04-20 20:05
Stewie probably
2019-04-20 20:00
#31
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United States Pyreon 
Read post then try again.
2019-04-20 20:01
I would still say Stewie. You can't always get a perfect role to role swap.
2019-04-20 20:02
#38
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United States Pyreon 
Except you could with nitro. :/
2019-04-20 20:03
Is autimatic the IGL? Also, he takes up a lot more space in my opinion.
2019-04-20 20:05
Read post then try again.
2019-04-20 20:01
Remember when stewie was the problem in MIBR? Now MIBR is a trash tier 10 team losing to tier 20 teams omegalul
2019-04-20 20:01
#36
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United States Pyreon 
200 iq. Please become liquid psychologist so they can finally not choke.
2019-04-20 20:03
was he? i thought it was the lack of communication lul xD
2019-04-20 20:08
among the brazilians, no one ever said he was the problem though. people just didn't enjoy having NA players in the team since it forced the others to speak english stewie being bad was just something hltv made up for some reason
2019-04-20 20:43
#79
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United States Pyreon 
How many times has that happened. 😞
2019-04-20 22:22
I am pretty sure tarik was a bigger problem then stewie
2019-04-21 02:22
#107
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United States Pyreon 
+1
2019-04-21 15:23
#45
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Brazil Mentecapto 
- TACO + autimatic
2019-04-20 20:07
This was actually MiBR original plan but thy got the wrong asian, lol.
2019-04-20 20:34
I wouldn't make any changes to Liquid if I were them right now, but if I had to pick someone to drop I'd probably say ELiGE. Twistzz, while inconsistent lately, is I would argue Liquid's best player when at best form. NAF is always solid, and nitr0 is a good player and IGL. I wouldn't remove Stew purely for the fact that when he and autimatic play together they're the best duo in the world outside of s1mple and electronic.
2019-04-20 20:13
>be top2 team >make changes in roster
2019-04-20 20:36
#81
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United States Pyreon 
hypothetical brother, hypothetical.
2019-04-21 00:50
#58
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United States Trump2020KAG 
stew would be the only one but i dont think it will happen...liquid is still plenty good with him
2019-04-20 20:37
ofc -stewie nitro can rifle + igl better than awp + igl autimatic - awp nitro - support / idl twistzz - entry elige - support / anchor at retakable sites NAF - lurker / can secondary awp / good at clutches
2019-04-20 20:41
Change roles between elige and twistzz
2019-04-20 20:52
Of course elige has been an entry for years why change that now
2019-04-21 02:24
-nitr0 Or -ElIGE (he’s annoying)
2019-04-20 20:45
You are annoying too
2019-04-20 20:51
#103
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Israel wetz 
I agree
2019-04-21 08:20
#67
EliGE | 
United States mehrfth 
stewie brings so much to the team though? i think if Liquid wanted to build an astralis 2.0, sure, you take out stewie and add autimatic. But this iteration of Liquid is slightly different in style to Astralis, and that's why we are seeing them consistently taking maps off them now. In a couple months, Liquid will be top 1
2019-04-20 20:45
-Elige or -Naf, they are final chokers while Stewie can deliver
2019-04-20 20:47
#82
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United States Pyreon 
watermelon brain.
2019-04-21 00:50
TL;DR: Removing Stewie is the best option when considering adding autimatic. Actually, removing Stewie wouldn't be a problem at all, TL literally has only aggressive players, barring maybe EliGE, and even still he plays as an entry. There would be plenty of room for a passive player. autimatic could take over AWPing duties, and as a player he's passive, smart and clutch. You can't cut nitr0, he's the IGL, and he can take over the hard entry role again with autimatic as an AWPer. You can't cut NAF, he's the best player and super versatile. You can't cut EliGE, he's been very good from a lesser role, which you'd want no one else to play in this team. So it's either twistzz or Stewie2k, and frankly twistzz' ceiling is higher than Stewie's, his consistency is better, he doesn't do as many mistakes and right now he's just the better player. Picking up Stewie never was the best option, they should've always gone for autimatic if the price had been right, which I can't know. Stewie could play in NRG, but even there I wouldn't know who to remove, maybe tarik? He'd have to join Cloud 9 or CompLexity or something.
2019-04-20 20:51
#10
2019-04-21 02:31
You gave no reason as to why Stewie should stay in EliGE's stead though, you simply stated he should because he can play the same roles. What are the benefits? Stewie is a worse fragger right now, his ceiling arguably isn't as high, he's less consistent and he does mistakes somewhat more frequently than EliGE. His only real benefit over EliGE seems to be his versatility in terms of gunplay, however TL have got enough flexible players. So again, why choose Stewie, a worse player to play EliGE's role, while you remove him? I don't see the benefit of it. But I do agree with your last statement, there's no reason to change anything just yet.
2019-04-21 08:14
TL: -stew +adren C9: -the new guy not named cajunb -golden +tarik+stew Nrg:-tarik +the new guy not named Cajunb faze: -adren +golden (igl problem solved)
2019-04-21 02:45
Who cares, they'll disband soon
2019-04-21 02:48
#99
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Australia invye 
take out the 2 KNOWN chokers from liquid, nitr0 or ELIGE and get autimatic in and maybe another guy who's good but i'd keep nitr0 and kick elige tbh
2019-04-21 02:58
#102
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Israel wetz 
Why would they change the lineup
2019-04-21 08:19
#104
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United States jay_320 
There's literally zero reason for Liquid to make roster changes. A bunch of plebs that don't understand Liquid's problems are all in their heads. They are already the most talented group of 5 in the game. Adding Autimatic fixes no fundamental problems with the team. I can't believe this has spawned 102 responses. There's also literally dudes in this thread saying TL has only aggressive players. I guess you didn't watch the sixth best player in the world play a single event last year.
2019-04-21 08:25
#105
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India Hafnex 
If auti comes in for nitro then who will lead their team? As far as stewie is concerned I think if they trade stewie for autimatic then nitro can go into support/igl role and autimatic to entry/awp. Nitro rn is their weakest player. People might be saying stewie is their bottom fragger but he throws a couple of kills for retarded rushes through smoke and is way more focusing on his awp skills atm then aug or ak....dunno why but yeah he can be better. I still believe hes better than nitro in terms of player ability and game sense. Needs a little maturity though.
2019-04-21 08:34
#108
Jesus | 
United States BLNDSPT 
They shouldn't and won't do this but in a hypothetical world, they replace elige and let him go to Envy to give them the firepower they lack
2019-04-21 15:43
they play same roles twistzz is support now autimatic second baiter naf baiter elige the most underrated twistzz support nitro igl
2019-04-21 20:40
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