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Poll - Does the AWP need changing?
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Please vote here my friends - strawpoll.com/fgfhfxyd Just considered this after getting into a debate with friends, I think it needs a buff but they believe it needs to be nerfed. When considering AWP balance, the main concern is any impact on tier one - pro level play.
2019-04-22 00:00
#1
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Brazil CaioOlive 
Buff on AWP?????? What do you want it to do? One shot in every shot?
2019-04-22 00:02
#3
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Faster scope in speed Lower price Higher kill reward Faster scoped movement
2019-04-22 00:02
ur crazy
2019-04-22 00:04
#8
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
How? It costs the most out of all guns used consistently at a pro level, it should clearly be better than all the others, but it isn’t.
2019-04-22 00:05
only thing i agree with is kill reward, everything else is big no
2019-04-22 00:13
Thats exactly why it shouldnt be buffed. It costs a lot and its still consistently used at pro level therefore its good.
2019-04-22 00:25
#35
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United States Degree|CSGO 
So if pros do anything it’s right? What kind of logic is that?
2019-04-22 00:29
just used pros as an example but everybody uses it in all skill levels
2019-04-22 00:58
#46
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
ok bro ur just copying everything thorin said that one time
2019-04-22 01:07
,+1 But he's correct it should get a small buff Reduce price to 4k Increase reward to normal rifle Maybe twerk scope mechanics to make it less op but not a direct need of buff just change it to give it a slightly higher skill sealing
2019-04-22 01:29
#67
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
thats a massive buff, makes it so you can always buy glass cannon awp on 3rd round, and if you eco 1st round you can kevlar +awp thats just dumb
2019-04-22 01:59
U dont want to make it an eco then Kevlar weapon because it will force people to eco first round which is bar as pistol should be one of the most important rounds where everyone fully invested
2019-04-22 09:14
#65
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Just because I’m copying him doesn’t make me or him wrong
2019-04-22 01:35
#68
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
there is no reason to change it tbh, maybe give it $300 dollar kill reward just so it works in low level play but it really doesnt need a proper buff
2019-04-22 02:00
silver spotted
2019-04-22 03:39
#9
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Europe g4nl0cK 
all it needs is accurate quick scoping
2019-04-22 00:05
#13
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
That would be one change that would be substantial. Then all I’d say needs to be done is lower the cost to $4500 and raise kill reward to $300.
2019-04-22 00:06
How about making the fire rate hire , make it complitely accurate while moving and jumping and while you are at it ad aim assist... AWP needs no changes , literally no one complains about awp being too OP...
2019-04-22 00:05
#15
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Scrubs who are unable to correctly smoke or flash an AWPer off an angle do it constantly.
2019-04-22 00:08
well who cares about a scrubs opinion?
2019-04-22 00:13
#48
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
scrubs
2019-04-22 01:07
nt kennyS
2019-04-22 00:08
#18
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
If I was kenny I would be well pissed. He was at his prime and then the AWP nerf ended his time as being the number one player.
2019-04-22 00:11
#27
Rob4 | 
Sweden Zapid 
Edit: Commented in wrong section :(
2019-04-22 00:18
#70
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Brazil CaioOlive 
this would make the strongest gun on the game strongest
2019-04-22 03:32
Dude KennyS would fuck EVERYONE he would be a god again
2019-04-22 03:38
#24
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Austria WhiteHawk7777 
- You get money for buying it - leg shots also kill in 1 hit - 120 shots/min and infinite mag
2019-04-22 00:14
#31
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Ok, kenny, I know you miss early 2015 but there are things that shouldn’t be tried just to be number one again.
2019-04-22 00:22
#71
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Brazil CaioOlive 
+11111111 i think this is better
2019-04-22 03:33
Yes
2019-04-22 10:29
Strawpoll.me or strawpoll.com Which is better
2019-04-22 00:02
#4
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
I think they’re equal
2019-04-22 00:03
#7
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Europe g4nl0cK 
.me
2019-04-22 00:05
#62
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Canada NELK 
Strawpoli
2019-04-22 01:26
#6
Rob4 | 
Sweden Zapid 
The AWP is already pretty op. Imo a 1 shot weapon like the awp shouldn't exist in the game and only keep the scout but that's my opinion, it doesn't really fit in.
2019-04-22 00:04
#17
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
So remove the AK, autosnipers, deagle and SG too then?
2019-04-22 00:09
i guess he means it takes more skill since u have to aim for the head
2019-04-22 00:14
#29
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
They should though, the rifles are much cheaper so there should be a disadvantage compared to the awp. The difference is the awp still has many other disadvantages compared to rifles that don’t make sense given it take so much more money to buy one. The deagle is even cheaper so it makes sense that you have the low fire rate and high inaccuracy when spamming. It’s cheap and dangerous so it’s got to be difficult to use.
2019-04-22 00:21
#30
Rob4 | 
Sweden Zapid 
"You cannot post replies repeatedly within five minutes" Sorry for the late reply but yeah here's what I think)). No since they take more skill to use. Everyone can pick up an AWP and kill someone easily (no recoil, only need body shot etc) while with the AK, Deagke, Sg you need to learn the recoil for the rifles and for the deagle you need to learn how to use it, tapping so it's perfectly timed etc. You need to aim for the head therefore alot harder than just getting a bodyshot. That's probably why alot of people use the AWP instead of rifles, they are too lazy to learn the recoil, tapping with perfect accuracy etc. Edit: The autosnipers I agree with, they should also get removed. Takes no skill really just spray and pray (no recoil), 2 shot to the body etc. Really broken.
2019-04-22 00:23
the gun thats been around since the beginning, and is a core part of gameplay, doesnt fit in?
2019-04-22 00:24
#36
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Found 1/10 people who wants the AWP nerf because all they do is get shit on by AWPers
2019-04-22 00:30
#39
Rob4 | 
Sweden Zapid 
Good argument, calling someone shit that you've never played with. Let me tell ya, I know how to win against an awp and I think it's to op and so easy to use, the scout you need skill, with rifles you need skill, with the awp you barely need any, just aim at the body and shoot. Then get traded instantly and cry for drop next round. I know how it is, it's quite easy to counter aswell but it's just so easy that other guns get useless when you can just pick up an awp. And don't call me bad you have never seen me play. Also if I don't respond after this then I have reached my daily 5 replies/day limit.
2019-04-22 00:34
#66
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United States Degree|CSGO 
Lol says don’t call me shit twice in the same reply
2019-04-22 01:38
#38
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Poland sosiad 
+1
2019-04-22 00:33
#11
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Spain Holiwis 
I would leave it as it is, but if I had to make a change, it would be higher kill reward, just that.
2019-04-22 00:05
#20
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Kill reward does need to be changed for consistency sake but the gun should have several clear advantages in nearly all situations to justify it being 60-80% more expensive than rifles.
2019-04-22 00:12
Awp is fine. Anyone that says it needs are nerf are not very good players. And anyone who thinks it needs a buff is a main awper.
2019-04-22 00:06
#26
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Austria WhiteHawk7777 
*anyone who thinks it needs a buff is probably a silver who screams at his teammates to drop him an awp every round
2019-04-22 00:15
#28
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Surprisingly silvers think the awp is the best gun in the game. No one at those ranks knows what any of the nades do so they can’t do anything against AWPers.
2019-04-22 00:18
#14
ZywOo | 
Europe vacban 
It's a strong weapon, good players are best when awping. But with a big price it's balanced. If you don't agree you need to add some IQ
2019-04-22 00:07
#37
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United States Degree|CSGO 
I am right and anyone who disagrees is dumb
2019-04-22 00:32
#40
ZywOo | 
Europe vacban 
+1 glad you agree
2019-04-22 00:51
Yes, it needs a nerf 5/30 ammo instead of 10/30
2019-04-22 00:12
#21
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Why?
2019-04-22 00:12
tbh i think this is the only decent nerf since it will discourage smoke spam and encourage hitting your shots.
2019-04-22 00:26
#44
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
The main encouragement for hitting your shots comes from the 41 rpm fire rate and slow movement speed that means if u miss you’re dead anyway.
2019-04-22 01:06
true, this first part was my point and the second was encourage by some recency bias with the mag7. overall, i actually think the awp could be nerfed in some ways (what i saw in your first suggested comments was too much imo). personally, the only reason i want the awp nerfed or buffed is to either decrease mag size (speaking from my personal use of the awp, where ill often fire a number of useless shots when my spots is known to try for wallbangs and smoke kills) or increase scoping speed. the only change id be actually interested in would be slightly increased speed while scoped and decreased speed while un-scoped, to make quick scope peeks or prefire a little more difficult whilst allowing for more movement whilst scoped (which is nice when you dont want to make noise but also dont want to take 10 seconds to walk down a corridor).
2019-04-22 01:16
That would be a welcomed change! Do this and perhaps increase kill reward, I'd have nothing against that. But buffing the weapon would be whack. It's incredibly difficult to counter unless you have a good team. High level faceit games are often dominated by the AWP on several maps, difficult to argue that it needs a buff :S
2019-04-22 01:07
like i said above, agreed. but i think your reference to faceit games doesn't show that it is a particularly strong weapon at the highest level (which imo should be priority with regards to specifically gun changes). i think the pro scene (aside from s1mple) shows that the awp is not particularly op.
2019-04-22 01:20
It's like this. On it's niche positions, the AWP is heavily favoured to win a duel. Long ranged scoped in kills is almost a given for any pro to get a kill - which is a huge opening. That being said, yes, the AWP has its weaknesses. This is also required for a weapon to not become overpowered. The AWP excels at certain positions, and does so in a very dominating manner, hence why it's priced at 4750$
2019-04-22 01:22
exactly, i would be happy with it never being changed as things stand.
2019-04-22 01:23
#42
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Finland M0FF3 
buff? what the hell dude, how shit are you if you need even better awp :D
2019-04-22 00:59
#43
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Even if the awp was made $50 and had unlimited ammo I wouldn’t use it. I’m a rifler to the core and only use it to go for mid picks on inferno ct side to piss off my teammates as I’m so shit with the gun (and all the other guns too).
2019-04-22 01:05
#45
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Finland M0FF3 
so why do u want it to get buffed?
2019-04-22 01:06
So. Now I'm starting to think you're trolling. A 50$ weapon with unlimited ammo and you wouldn't use it?
2019-04-22 01:08
hyperbole.
2019-04-22 01:17
I don't know about hyperbole but sounds like boleshit to me
2019-04-22 01:20
it means he was exaggerating. aslo, boleshit?
2019-04-22 01:21
I know what it means. It was a joke :) :) :) :) (Bullshit)
2019-04-22 01:23
ah clearly had a bit too much tn. peace
2019-04-22 01:25
It needs burst and full auto mode
2019-04-22 01:13
#59
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Canada NELK 
LEave it as it is now I
2019-04-22 01:24
#61
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Germany YarrakJunior 
people who vote for ''yes it needs buffs'' are the real heroes no more legshots ez 1hit kill wallbang level over 9000
2019-04-22 01:26
#64
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United States WumboCumbo 
why bother to change something that's been relatively consistent in competitive play and is already balanced we should be talking about fixing the Negev and m249 situation Revert Negev mechanics change price to 4000 Lower m249 price to 3600
2019-04-22 01:35
#69
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Norway CheNaLii 
Bring back old AWP <3
2019-04-22 02:02
#74
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United Kingdom Peath 
AWP is in an alright place IMO. Only thing it could do with is a higher kill reward. I'd put it to $200 to keep it fair. The other buffs would need to be incremental and would only bring it closer to what it was in the early days of CS, which was pretty damn OP from what I remember.
2019-04-22 03:42
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