just pick growing players and make them great
that's a better approach
like zywoo how zywoo happened..., just get the FPL NA guys that are playing well if there's not as many NA players avaliable, would be way better
just a boom, thats kinda expected to happen, but quickly teams learned how to play against them and well you know how that story goes.
Thing with C9 is, no one there is really that insanely good, they are good yeah, but not legends, auti at best.
true im with u on that c9 topic. but this face iteration won more events than all c9 lineups together.. its a shit show since after the major and its hilarious that they are invited to the blast pro events. same as nip.
NIP at least have a better line up. They are surely weaker than the top5 teams, but they are still a decent team. top8 currently.
But Cloud9 is just bad right now. They don't have a stable line up. They are not even in top30 team. They have to rebuild a new decent roster and give them couple months to improve and become a competitive at top level or let the current roster more time to improve.
Jeah NIP aint that Bad (compared 2 C9). But if u read the article with the BLAST CEO then it kinda becomes clear y they are invited to blast. Dont get me wrong i love gtr and f0rest but come on. Everything Else u said +1
Yeah current Liquid is way above the major winning C9. We can see it by how consistent Liquid performance are. They already make several finals at top LAN this year. Also by the way they play in game. But the major winning C9 was a good roster also, that roster was competitive. Right now they have to rebuild a new team and they are trying stuff, so either they give this roster more time to improve or they will have to build a new roster.
The only reason this topic even gets so much attention is C9 is the most beloved NA team. Liquid has arguably had better success in CS but C9 were almost always able to beat them when it mattered head to head and actually lift a few trophies throughout their history.
I do think that the addition of one good rifler could change this lineups complexion. Konfig or Sunny together with Autimatic and Cajun would have been a decent trio. Not world beaters but probably top 10 good. As is they are now just a middle of the road team. Firmly Tier 2.
The sad thing for me is that Autimatic is C9 to me but after a year now of watching him have to put up with this I would not blame him if he ended up wanting out. Jack has had a year and a fuck ton of money to put into this team and he simply hasn't done it. Choosing to focus on League I understand. Cloud 9 was built as a brand in LoL. Choosing to focus on OWL I even get especially at the beginning. Winning the league was a great start for them. But I feel like by the time late 2018 rolled around the writing was on the wall that Overwatch was never going to be a sustainable esport and the monetary focus should have been shifted back.
It's really just a shame. I know people will come in here and laugh but it'd be like if Fnatic just let all their talent but Krimz walk and did nothing assertive to course correct.
At this point I feel like C9 has until the end of pro league to bring in that missing piece. If they don't they will start to lose CS fans in earnest if it hasn't already started happening already.
and you are surprised?? they where always bad...only good people where flusha und kio (and sometimes auti) who carried the shit out of the team. the team after/and before -flusha -kio was crap
people really think c9 is somehow good??? wow they won against lumi and envy gg LOL