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bodybuilding and steroids
Aleksib | 
Denmark Comehere123 
hltv gymsharks and steroids abusers can someone here tell me most safe first cycle possible for 18yo? Training for 2 years natural and now I would like to hop on juice
2019-04-23 21:36
u inject it into your scrotum whilst drinking milk from a donkeys udder
2019-04-23 21:37
#3
Nero | 
China Aachen 
+1
2019-04-23 21:38
nice men)))
2019-04-23 21:38
#2
Sweden ZAE^ 
kvarg milk and dedication
2019-04-23 21:37
just protein nothing special
2019-04-23 21:39
#9
Sweden ZAE^ 
It is not worth doing steroids you will fuck up your body within years and u r only 18...
2019-04-23 21:40
Do it naturally and be proud of yourself in the future. Nothing that's gained in a instant is ever worth it. You only currently see the "massive gains" but it fucks you up and it's for insecure people. Train hard, eat properly and don't stop, don't take extra breaks. Your body is about to change a lot anyhow in the next years, when you stop growing height you'll start putting up more mass especially if you eat enough. And never forget to sleep well.
2019-04-23 22:13
thank you for nice words, strenght with you:)
2019-04-23 22:17
men don't do steroids keep it natural
2019-04-23 21:38
#7
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Denmark VeryEZ4EnceGuy 
yep. Girls don't like those pure muscleheads but nice muscles is good.
2019-04-23 21:39
you can get nice muscles staying natural. roids make them look overly developed which isn't very attractive.
2019-04-23 22:53
exactly. Having some muscles is nice but it looks deformed and unatural to have big boulders.
2019-04-24 17:08
#8
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Ukraine Najara 
methan + deca
2019-04-23 21:39
test prop + short deca what u think?
2019-04-23 21:41
test e (needle): weeks: 1-10. = 500mg weekly d-bol (oral): weeks: 1-5. = 30mg daily winstrol (oral): weeks: 1-5. = 30mg daily test e + dbol: weeks: 1-10. = 500mg test e + 30mg dbol dont forget that you need to do a PCT for 3-6 weeks after your cycle. i dont suggest you to take a lot of oral shit tho it fucks up your liver
2019-04-23 21:42
i ll never take winstrol too toxic
2019-04-23 21:42
idk a mate of me took it and he got huge, he never got problems either but it might come sooner or later. its mainly for losing fat anyways
2019-04-23 21:43
also dbol is strongest anabolic steroid not worth to take it with 1 cycle
2019-04-23 21:43
#29
Nero | 
China Aachen 
Everything checks out
2019-04-23 21:54
steroids at 18? lmfao
2019-04-23 21:43
whats the safe age then? dont tell me there is not cuz i ll take it anyway sooner or later
2019-04-23 21:45
Theres no Safe age for steroids but atleast build a foundation naturally.
2019-04-23 21:48
#30
Nero | 
China Aachen 
There isn't
2019-04-23 21:54
yeah iknow but i ll try them anyway at some age
2019-04-23 21:55
There was a program on Belgian TV called "Trafiek Axel". In this series the guy who host the series is going undercover to uncover the different traffics behind for example: buying a wife online, human trafficking, buying organs off market, the paid animal hunt in Afrika and many more. The last episode was about buying steriods. In that show they find a young guy (28 years old) and follow him medically when he does his first few weeks of roids ever. They follow him in the gym while he's working out, they take all kind of medical tests before the roids and the same tests when the first cure is over. The guy never did roids before and his medical tests after that first cure were actually insane. Liver already damaged, balls already damaged and other things I forgot. So I would not recommend doing it ever. When the doctor told him his medical results you could see he was pretty shocked about the bad results and told the show he wouldn't do roids again but sadly, 8 months after the show he was still taking roids because once you see yourself lift more and get bigger you won't ever go back to lifting natural.
2019-04-23 21:58
good point its hard to hop off the gear
2019-04-23 21:59
He even said he had lost friends because they went depressed because they couldn't lift anymore without roids and were buying for 1400$ each month just for roids.
2019-04-23 22:02
#84
AmaNEk | 
France ZywHere 
Is this show in french or dutch ? Can find it on youtube ?
2019-04-24 06:43
It was in Dutch and was a very good watch. Would recommend for sure. vier.be/video/trafiek-axel/trafiek-axel-.. If you make a free account you can watch it for free but it's only in Dutch I'm afraid.
2019-04-24 17:46
arf do you think there is some subtitles ? it seems really interesting
2019-04-24 18:57
I did a (real) quick search but couldn't find anything subbed or in English.
2019-04-24 19:36
age doesnt matter. weight/muscle mass and obviously training knowledge and duration matters. you should be at a good base to start
2019-04-23 21:59
Just meant there's 0 fucking possiblity of even having hit a stand still at 18 so why wreck your body.
2019-04-23 22:00
i know some guys who took it at 16 or even earlier and they are 25+ now and actually got decent, healthy bodies with good height. but yea. tbh taking roids below 18 is actually quite clever since it still changes your facial structure (more masculine features) and can affect your height in a positive way depending on what you take. hgh best
2019-04-23 22:01
Just because they haven't noticed any side effects yet doesn't mean they're perfectly healthy. hope for them they get blood work done twice a year regardless.
2019-04-23 22:03
Read #38 and stop spreading bullshit friend. Don't let others make the same stupid mistakes you made if you are on roids. Even 1 cure will damage your liver and balls for the remainder of your life. Ive seen the show and it was tested by real doctors in a real hospital with a real guy who bought real roids and they also showed you when he injected his ass.
2019-04-23 22:07
stfu seriously. taking steroids is not as bad as everyone says. ofc if u overdo it or take oral shit then its ur own fault but 500mg test e or depot wont do shit
2019-04-24 09:13
500mg of test does enough that you shouldn't downplay it to 18 year olds who may want to have kids in the future.
2019-04-24 09:41
since when does testosteron after PCT cause errectile problems or anything similar??
2019-04-24 12:15
You are so badly informed it's actually funny. You don't get erectile problems. Your balls will simply shrink. There is even a name for it testicular atrophy. Feel free to look it up. dontcookyourballs.com/anabolic-steroids-..
2019-04-24 18:02
yea but its not forever lmfao. its until u stop using and a few months till ur body produces testosteron naturally.
2019-04-24 18:28
Just watch the fucking docu 'Trafiek Axel' and see how badly you are damaging your balls, liver and countless other stuff and that dude only did 1 fucking cure and no he didn't do oral, he injected. You are being baited by the dude who supplies you and you should rethink life choices asap. Delusional much ? Feeling your balls shrink from time to time ? Aggressive tints? And I can guarantee you if you trained once with roids you won't go back to natural because their won't be any progress. And beside health issues I wouldn't ever take roids because it's cheating. The same way I would never use cheats in an online game or whatever.
2019-04-24 17:36
also forgot to add i weight 71kg/184cm typically hard gainer rather bad eater and my goal is to build solid mass
2019-04-23 21:44
Dude, after 2 years of training thats your weight..? I think you should just forget the whole working out thing XD
2019-04-24 12:28
having problems with dieting atm :/
2019-04-24 17:54
#18
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Poland FitPolak 
Why would you jump on roids, espesially with the stats you wrote in #16 lol. Maybe get on some smart training program and hit that caloric surplus?
2019-04-23 21:45
So my training is mostly fbw sometimes when i feel some muscles groups arent ready then i skip it
2019-04-23 21:47
#21
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Poland FitPolak 
If you feel like they aren't ready then volume don't suit your "maximal recovery volume". And saying "FBW" don't tell me anything, there are tons of FBW variations. Not to insult you as well, but the stats from #16 clearly states that you havent get through noob gains.
2019-04-23 21:49
no i did some mass managed to add 6 kg in 4 months and overally my physique got stronger( bench, incline bench, pull ups, squat and additonal exercises} the only thing i avoid is deadlift due to spine problems
2019-04-23 21:51
#36
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Poland FitPolak 
I understand, then some lying leg curls should take place in your program. Anyway just learn to how count calories: youtube.com/watch?v=UabqqP-XPqo youtube.com/watch?v=dkCT-hAP8SU Hop on small caloric surplus like +200 kcals Then get on some cool Full Body Workout routine: youtube.com/watch?v=5JmWguyvu7Y youtube.com/watch?v=MWcJuLKB7RY Also I would go to one visit to some physiotherapist, so he could tell you what hamstrings exercise you can do with your spinal problems, maybe some bodyweight?
2019-04-23 21:57
ty, definitely will watch these videos :)
2019-04-23 22:10
btw i see youre in the subject so take a look at this guy instagram.com/devinbernardo/ do u think this is achieveable naturally?
2019-04-23 21:54
It's not EDIT: i don't know how he looks without filters but at 21 its un-achievable anyway
2019-04-23 21:57
#37
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Poland FitPolak 
At least his upper body isn't 😎
2019-04-23 21:57
this guy arms are incredible #goals
2019-04-23 22:00
and yea i can confirm my diet is shit right now
2019-04-23 21:49
#85
AmaNEk | 
France ZywHere 
So you want to chose the easy way ? Eat good and a lot instead of doing drug bro
2019-04-24 06:49
Enjoy your erectile dysfunction mens)))
2019-04-23 21:49
u mirin brah?
2019-04-23 21:51
hes justa sad cunt
2019-04-23 22:41
18 years , 2 years of training and wants to start on roids LMAO pathetic kids
2019-04-23 21:52
Taking steroids before you're at least 24 is asking for all kinds of trouble.
2019-04-23 21:52
#32
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Latvia BionicRick 
Listen to #27, don't take steroids yet. You're too young and haven't even finished developing yet. If you continue lifting and still want to become a bodybuilder at that point, then hop on.
2019-04-23 21:55
#34
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Germany luros 
Taking steroids is so fucking dumb. Have fun if you stop one day taking them
2019-04-23 21:56
There is no such thing as "safe cycle". There is no such thing as low doses to avoid countereffects. If you expose yourself to enhancement drugs you expose yourself to countereffects. The only thing one can do is keep doing tests and bloodwork to keep tracking to stop the drugs and start a treatment as soon as possible if something wrond shows, to control/revert the damage. Another problem is that anyone who uses enhancement drugs will lose the capability to work out as clean and expect/deal with natural improvement and adaptations. Ppl turn addicted and lose their physical and mental capacity, motivation, to workout while not taking anything. Most gymrats feel like they should even workout if they run out of whey protein, mind you enhancement drugs. I recommend you to learn how to workout, learn how to eat, learn how to be REAL, physically and mentally, not a fake moronic ped drug addict. I don't even recommend any supplement, except for caffeine and creatine, both scientifically proven and tested for decades. I'm a personal trainer, I don't use, never user and never will use any peds. I don't sell anything, I don't work over the internet, I have nothing to profit in any way with my opinions. And this is how I look... just working out and taking creatine once or twice a day: instagram.com/rom4nholli/
2019-04-23 21:56
+1
2019-04-23 21:59
nice physique bro keep it up
2019-04-23 22:03
I'm 37, by the way. Don't get me wrong, I understand ppl who decides to risk themselver for these and even more the ones who make a living from the results peds give them. But for normal ppl like me and most of the human beings, a very good physique and performance can be achieved with a little motivation and discipline. Only with health benefits, I must add, not the opposite.
2019-04-24 00:01
#39
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Poland jakubyku 
dont take roids before 21
2019-04-23 21:58
just follow zyzz steroid intake but u might die tren clen dbol
2019-04-23 22:00
zyzz inspired me to lift forever mirin
2019-04-23 22:03
same bro. ill forever mirin the father of aesthetics, brother of hercules, son of zeus, gods of jawline and misc trolling
2019-04-23 22:07
2019-04-23 22:08
#46
gla1ve | 
Denmark topres 
There is NO safe cycle at 18 yo. You have to wait until you're 28 for your natural testosterone levels to peak, otherwise you might fuck them up (even with high quality grade shit like HGH). Don't do it.
2019-04-23 22:01
#48
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Europe Schizophrenx 
take 100mg of test p e3d and u will be surprised with results.
2019-04-23 22:02
Steroids make you unhealthy and ugly
2019-04-23 22:03
well normal dosage of hgh make your skin and other things look better
2019-04-23 22:05
so does plastic surgery
2019-04-23 22:09
yes and u can have these without steroids
2019-04-24 09:19
#54
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Australia Lolfeminists 
Your body hasn’t even fully developed and you want to take steroids? You have no clue.
2019-04-23 22:05
lmao cuck
2019-04-23 22:05
why u insult 3rd world brother? taking steroids is personal choice the hard work has to be done anyway
2019-04-23 22:07
you must have a small cock
2019-04-23 22:07
what u even mean dude gtfo from here
2019-04-23 22:08
danish men
2019-04-23 22:10
#86
AmaNEk | 
France ZywHere 
He mean you are insecure and/or lack of self confidence to think about roids,and he s probably not totally wrong. Mesure the risk/rewards before taking that shit, being big for some years and getting problems for decades is not a good risk/reward ratio. You will fucked up your life for a youth mistake.
2019-04-24 07:05
Not clever. Steroids can cause impotence, personality changes and damage you body in many ways.
2019-04-23 22:15
Have fun having balls smaller than moleculs.
2019-04-23 22:19
thats a myth
2019-04-23 22:22
Bro my balls are comparable to a marble in a sock
2019-04-23 22:47
It aint
2019-04-23 22:52
#110
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United States darkun 
na dude he knows what hes talking about cause hes never done it
2019-04-24 20:06
Dont take gear at age 18 man. You dont want to take anything that will suppress your natural T production. If anything take something like clomid in small doses which will boost your test without causing any hpta disfunction. If you want to do something else try some mk677 which will boost your growth hormone which can actually help you grow some
2019-04-23 22:46
#74
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United States darkun 
YOUR A PUSSY!! CANT LOOK GOOD WITHOUT JUICE? CAUSE YOU TRAIN LIKE A BITCH.... eat more and stop being a pussy. if your not hitting competitions and juicing, your an idiot
2019-04-23 22:47
#80
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United States darkun 
"good point its hard to hop off the gear" this is your OWN comment and you havent even taken gear... heres a tip that goes beyond BB... dont act like you know what your talking about when you have NO experience.
2019-04-23 22:54
it was based on other people opinons and own logic( with roids u feel like god }so i dont see anything wrong wiith this
2019-04-24 00:45
#83
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United States darkun 
besides the intensity, what i have said is TRUE... and then you need to say "IVE HEARD... its hard to get off the gear"
2019-04-24 06:36
chill out youre propably on trenbolone so offensive men)))
2019-04-24 17:55
#108
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United States darkun 
na im just tired of kids like you who think they know wtf their talking about because they read shit on the internet... i see it everywhere i go... a bunch of know it all that cant execute shit.
2019-04-24 19:43
the safest is testosterone injections because it's simply our main hormone. If you're afraid of injections then stanazolol 40-50mg/day. for the first cycle is enough
2019-04-23 22:49
Bodybuilding is good, but steroids are unhealthy.
2019-04-23 22:50
Phenyl + Test
2019-04-23 22:54
#91
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Finland herculepoirot 
Eat clen, tren hard.
2019-04-24 12:19
anavar give up :) we on same boat ayee
2019-04-24 17:57
winn allways!
2019-04-24 18:28
#94
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Bulgaria mchetvorkata 
We all know you ain't hopping on shit
2019-04-24 17:16
at this moment not , youre right
2019-04-24 17:57
wrong forum to ask such questions and it takes like 2 mins of research to find out that test 250mg e5d is the usual first cycle.
2019-04-24 17:39
lmao
2019-04-24 18:33
lol retard dont even try doing steroid your brain and dik will be destoroyed
2019-04-24 19:45
#111
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Czech Republic _s0 
lmao bodybuilding without steroids waste of time
2019-04-24 20:08
Are u anti-vaxx
2019-04-24 20:18
#114
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Serbia d1ckson 
Cock size is more impirtant than muscle size. Choose wisely
2019-04-24 20:26
#117
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
cock doesnt get smaller
2019-04-24 20:31
roids = no pee pee erection so im out
2019-04-24 20:28
#116
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
18 still too young but if u really want to, start with 250 mg Testosterone enanthate every 5th day. best beginner cycle.
2019-04-24 20:30
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