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VSM should be banned forever
Austria veryniceperson 
just like swag and anothers no mercy for cheaters change my mind
2019-04-24 21:43
#1
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United States kami917 
No
2019-04-24 21:43
yes
2019-04-24 21:45
#16
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United States kami917 
Ok
2019-04-24 21:46
#115
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Brazil chasehawk 
lul
2019-04-25 06:08
#56
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Brazil bacon1 
fnx have a second account vacced and never got ban from esl events...
2019-04-24 22:02
#61
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Portugal YANRAZA 
And never gonna play in one again anyways
2019-04-24 22:05
+1 lmao
2019-04-25 06:23
hahahah
2019-05-14 23:35
#113
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Brazil PedroZNL 
Do not talk shit, he was able to prove that he did not use it.
2019-04-25 05:56
But he wasn't cheater
2019-04-24 21:44
#51
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France mdK_ 
yes he was
2019-04-24 22:01
#139
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Brazil D1sco 
only when he was a teenager and he never used it in events, so why does it matter?
2019-05-14 23:32
#140
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France mdK_ 
I know it and it doesn't matter
2019-05-14 23:34
#3
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Brazil BRAZlL 
like s1mple as well
2019-04-24 21:44
S1mple doesnt have vac ban.
2019-04-24 21:45
+1
2019-04-24 21:45
#17
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Brazil BRAZlL 
it's not about VAC you imbecile, s1mple cheated in the past, vsm didn't cheat, he got banned because he had a old steam account VACCed
2019-04-24 21:46
vsm didn't cheat he got banned because he had a old steam account VACCed pick one and call someone imbecile after
2019-04-24 21:48
#32
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Brazil BRAZlL 
we are talking about CSGO, he wasn't banned on CS obviously, otherwise i'd be here supporting you idiot
2019-04-24 21:51
#95
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Argentina mnscs 
he got banned in csgo, he even admitted it LUL
2019-04-25 03:28
#119
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Argentina MrRioKai 
+1
2019-04-25 06:38
#53
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France mdK_ 
HAHAHAHAAHA
2019-04-24 22:01
Reported for calling me an imbecile. Vsm has vac ban. S1mple has no vac ban. Even a kid can understand that. Peace.
2019-04-24 21:47
reported as well mens)))
2019-04-24 21:48
How do you get VAC without cheat?
2019-04-24 22:31
#89
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Brazil BRAZlL 
not in CS you bastard, he was 13yo
2019-04-25 03:14
#96
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
Isn't CS 18+ though?
2019-04-25 03:29
so you get vac because you're 13?
2019-04-25 14:57
He got vacced for not cheating eight. Probably using cheat engine RIGHT
2019-04-25 03:56
#4
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United States Mufftings 
What did he do?
2019-04-24 21:44
he said the nword
2019-04-24 21:44
xD haha
2019-04-24 21:45
cheating when he was 13yo
2019-04-24 21:45
Proofs
2019-04-24 21:57
#45
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Czech Republic drafterkakaka 
prove it or...
2019-04-24 21:59
#43
2019-04-24 21:59
#60
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Czech Republic drafterkakaka 
-rep
2019-04-24 22:05
nothing against rules, enjoy pepicek
2019-04-24 22:05
He got a VAC when he was a kid 13 years old. It's like to arrest a kid forever for stealing something.
2019-04-24 22:29
Explain please, when did he cheat?
2019-04-24 21:44
13yo
2019-04-24 21:45
#12
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China lxxl2 
When he was 13.
2019-04-24 21:45
#14
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Denmark sNju 
He got a VAC ban when he was 13. ESL linked together his accounts, but afaik he's allowed to play ESL again, perm banned at Valve.
2019-04-24 21:45
gj valve, no mercy with those dog ppl
2019-04-24 21:47
+1
2019-04-25 03:37
proof? just can't look it up my own atm.
2019-04-24 21:45
#120
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Argentina MrRioKai 
#43
2019-04-25 06:40
He is still probably cheating tbh
2019-04-25 03:56
#133
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Denmark Floosha 
Cry?
2019-05-14 02:35
About what???? You stupid third worlder he can't even qualify his garbage team for LAN. He is probably cheating on alts or playing mm with walls. Obviously you're one of his dumb fangays who will respond to everything with pride and arrogance
2019-05-14 18:14
#137
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Denmark Floosha 
Show me proof of what you say, the boy is a born talent. Maybe even with 2 or 3 years he is playing majors, clearly his comment is completely stupid. Both vsm and swag should have their vac bans removed.See you around Murica redneck.
2019-05-14 22:11
Redneck, I don't believeni live on a farm?? How he be a talent? Because you said he was? And miraa wrote an article about vsm?
2019-05-14 23:28
#143
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Denmark Floosha 
For xenophobia and lack of iq, yes I believe you are a redneck. He has proved not only a player with a good aim, but also as a great strategist, you can see this with only 30 minutes of demo.
2019-05-15 22:47
didn't on official match
2019-04-24 21:47
who cares? once cheater forever cheater
2019-04-24 21:49
Lol. These forever bans for stuff that happen outside pro or official semi-pro matches are retarded. Just shows that Valve cant spot a cheater in Majors or they would sensible like all real sports.
2019-04-24 22:02
thats why they should him ban forever, bad example for another ppl
2019-04-24 22:03
Its like a bad joke. Like banning next Messi for unsportsmanlike conduct at age 4.
2019-04-24 22:16
But how can you be so stupid that you have ties to your vac banned account when you wanna play pro lmao. Monkey brain
2019-04-24 22:44
Are u saying that n0thing and simple are cheaters? Lol
2019-04-25 03:45
so s1mple shouldn't be a pro player
2019-04-25 13:18
Well he didnt cheat as a pro, he was a 13yo kid match making, he had his pusnishement (account deleted) than he never cheated again, or at least no proof of that
2019-04-24 21:47
#27
2019-04-24 21:49
Just forget about VSM So imagine a 13yo kid steal something from a supermaket, just because its young and retard he will steal forever ? ofc he wont i dont care about vsm, tbh, why would i? But the scenario as a whole, i think its unfair for a human being being through this
2019-04-24 21:52
no, cheaters are cancer swag is forever banned as well for matchfixing, why make exceptions?
2019-04-24 21:53
swag was on pro scene already man, he was making money with it Not same thing, you paid for something you did 5 years ago, when you were a 13 years old But doest matter, you wont change your mind anyway
2019-04-24 21:55
No, he just wont be able to enter that supermarket ever again. Which I find pretty fair.
2019-04-24 21:55
or maybe cut his hand should be good punishment
2019-04-24 21:58
So imagine a 13yo kid kill his entire family, just because its young and retard he will kill forever ? no but he will get punished for it i dont care about vsm, tbh, why would i? But the scenario as a whole, i think is fair for a human being being through this
2019-04-24 21:59
not samething at all lmao im out of here !
2019-04-24 21:59
#31 not samething at all lmao im out of here !
2019-04-24 22:01
Actually yes. Valve's zero tolerance policy wrt cheating and matchfixing is one of the few good things about the way they conduct the CSGO pro scene. The fact that vsm was 13, 10, 1 year old, doesn't change the fact that he cheated. Both him and swag should be banned from Valve-sponsored events forever
2019-04-24 21:48
#121
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Argentina MrRioKai 
+1 But i dont like to compare matchfixing and cheating
2019-04-25 06:43
#29
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Denmark sNju 
It's stuff like this that stops CS:GO from being a true all-time great Esport that companies can invest a lot of money into. MUCH more than they invest in it at the moment. We need an org like FIFA (without the corruption) that can control the rules and bans of CS:GO. This includes map rotations, future updates/balance changes, player bans, etc etc. It's not fair someone is banned for life for anything. Even using cheats in public games should give a MUCH lower ban than cheating in a pro game. Like 6 months vs 24 months or so. Imagine me being caught snorting cocaine when I was 15, and it resulting in me being banned from playing pro Basketball when I was 25. Makes no fucking sense.
2019-04-24 21:50
lul u cant compare these things cheating is completly different case§ edit: swag is forever banned for matchfixing, vsm should be banned forever as well
2019-04-24 21:52
#49
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Denmark sNju 
Different from what? Doping? In REAL sports you get 1-2 years ban. And the example is exactly the same. Cocaine is comparable to MM, and real doping for a competition would be comparable to cheats in a pro game. Do you understand how hard a punishment 1-2 years is for a professional athlete? It's like throwing someone in jail for 10 years. They lose EVERYTHING that they worked their entire life for, BUT they still get a very slim chance to be able to come back. A permanent ban is just too hard. The only people who don't deserve second chances are people who hurt/kill women or children.
2019-04-24 22:01
comparing 1-2 year to 10 years. do you always make your comparisons the way you want them to be right?
2019-04-24 22:06
#35
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Brazil Fabes6 
+1
2019-04-24 21:53
Brainless comment. If anything, Valve should be even more stringent with the way they handle cheaters. Cheaters are the ones who ruin the game for everyone else and make MM unplayable
2019-04-24 21:53
nt alaba
2019-04-24 21:50
#34
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Brazil Lucian1 
If ur a pro and cheat, u are banned 4 ever /Closed. If ur a 13yo Kid and cheat, u lose your acc 4 ever /Closed. He already had his sentence.
2019-04-24 21:52
#122
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Argentina MrRioKai 
I dont see swag unbanned lmao -1
2019-04-25 06:44
#38
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Brazil RhuanPorto 
#freevsm 13 years men
2019-04-24 21:54
#47
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Brazil Merrin 
who?
2019-04-24 21:59
#58
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Norway ludvik33 
Wasn't it a secondary account which got caught cheating on another game than CSGO 6 years ago or something? I´d say f*ck permanent ban...
2019-04-24 22:04
If you are caught plagiarizing your career/schooling is basically over, same should go for cheating. Just don't be a pathetic loser and cheat, case solved. However, valve should implement some official mode like deathmatch with the ability to toggle on/off wall hacks only as practicing that way can actually improve your ability without cheats. They won't though, valve is incompetent.
2019-04-24 22:04
so you're saying that you could get kick out of college and banned for the rest of your life because someone found out that you plagiarized something when you were 13 ?
2019-04-24 22:14
If you get caught plagiarizing in high school, chances are you won't make it to college. Depends on who is disciplining you, but it's possible. It's extreme, but I still agree with the ban for him and every other cheater, swag and IBP included. There are plenty of other people who play the game clean at a high level who should be given the chance over cheats and liars.
2019-04-24 22:19
If you get caught in high school you just need to take the class again. In CS Valve should invite the player to LAN to prove he's legit.
2019-04-24 22:34
It all depends on the situation. The same could happen in college as well, it really just depends on who is disciplining and what the infraction was. The point is, if you cheat and lie your future lies in whatever authority is above you and the mercy they grant you. It's not up to us to decide what happens. I agree that it sucks for him, and an argument can be made either way, but it is what it is. Everyone should take it as a life lesson, lying and cheating has consequences, so don't do it.
2019-04-25 01:23
I think all of them should be unbanned
2019-04-24 22:06
Not for something that happened long ago.
2019-04-24 22:07
who's vsm
2019-04-24 22:08
Swag never cheated
2019-04-24 22:09
True.
2019-04-24 22:13
never cheated and still forever banned thats why he should be banned forever as well
2019-04-24 22:56
he did a much worse thing than cheating on a mm
2019-04-24 22:59
#69
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Belarus fan_of_North 
he a bot anyway
2019-04-24 22:13
#71
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Indonesia fraus 
no / closed
2019-04-24 22:14
Not even a 13 years young offender gets stuck forever.
2019-04-24 22:16
well he is banned from majors like many others :).
2019-04-24 22:20
#76
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Romania qAp 
Freevsm
2019-04-24 22:21
#78
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Canada top_zozzle 
naem daren’t czech out
2019-04-24 22:30
no
2019-04-24 22:38
#82
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Brazil Perdigao22 
The guy was banned before there was a Major lol
2019-04-24 22:41
+1
2019-04-24 22:47
#87
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Brazil Tablari 
With 13 years-old I had no notion of what consequences could I get with my acts. He was very young, a child, probably with a bad computer,trying to play some game and just like every kid, he wanted an advantage over the other players, probably downloaded the cheaper or free cheat and got banned by VAC, that we all know it's a shit system, even worse in 2013. He didn't offer any bad to the community but now he can offer a lot being a hope to a lot of young talents that one day dream to play a major.
2019-04-24 23:03
#99
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Mexico BasicN1ga 
Once a cheater always a cheater When i was 13 i hacked pokemon games, im 17 and i still hack them hoes
2019-04-25 03:38
Are u saying that simple and n0thing are cheaters too? Cuz they cheated in the past...
2019-04-25 03:53
That's not true, we both know it xD
2019-04-25 03:56
Why swag ? lol
2019-04-25 04:14
Nt Arg tilted
2019-04-25 05:44
#114
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Brazil PedroZNL 
If so, S1mple should also be banned.
2019-04-25 05:58
#117
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Brazil mrk15 
s1mple: - a experienced professional player cheats in a international event with high stakes prizes - has 0 punishments to his career v$m - a inexperienced child cheats in regular matchmaking - turns out to be an amazing player at the age of 20 - completely banished from majors for his entire life
2019-04-25 06:29
#118
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Brazil PedroZNL 
S1mple was punished, banned for 2 years, but I can not remember if it was by valve or ESL. But the punishment of VSM is stupid.
2019-04-25 06:32
#123
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Brazil mrk15 
Didn't know about that. Punishment must've been by ESL then, valve would've banned him forever from their tournaments. Seems as valve recognizes children cheating in their game at home ruining their stupidly awful matchmaking system damages more the whole community than a PROFESSIONAL PLAYER (with legal contracts, with salaries, with influence) cheating at a PRESTIGIOUS INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT (with thousands watching and large prizes).
2019-04-25 06:45
effects of low IQ, cheaters should stay banned
2019-04-25 06:49
Who?
2019-04-25 06:49
- turns out to be an amazing player at the age of 20 --- ¿?¿ meu deus ...........
2019-04-25 06:49
macaco tramposo xd
2019-04-25 06:53
#129
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
+1 unluku caralho
2019-04-25 07:33
You have never done mistake men))) not everyone is like you men)))
2019-04-25 15:15
#135
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United States Venom_ 
Who and waht
2019-05-14 18:19
FREESWAG
2019-05-14 18:21
who is VSM wtf men
2019-05-14 23:34
No
2019-05-15 22:48
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