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Some say astralis is the best team of all time, but noone will ever be near the record of 87-0. NiP GOT <3
2019-04-26 00:50
#1
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Germany BIGGER_BIG_FAN 
unluko maluko mens)) sorry i dont know what it means, im just being a 3rd world cringe brazillian, ok bye
2019-04-26 00:51
#23
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Brazil knockera 
russia 1rst world? lul
2019-04-26 01:09
fakeflag, but nt xaxaxaxa
2019-04-26 01:45
too afraid to show ur real flag? ))
2019-04-26 11:45
2019-04-26 11:54
#81
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Japan Yeah_Hentai 
Why pick russia to fake flag?
2019-04-26 17:33
#89
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Romania KennyShoxie1 
+1
2019-04-26 19:53
#91
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Denmark Xipingu 
Yeah 0 IQ wtf lol, +1 to you
2019-04-26 19:54
1rst lul
2019-04-26 17:07
#2
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Germany VNIX_ 
+1
2019-04-26 00:51
CS wasnt really competitive back then.
2019-04-26 00:52
CS isn’t really competitive now.
2019-04-26 00:55
???????????????? what
2019-04-26 00:57
How NiP was ahead of the competition is identical as how Astralis is ahead now.
2019-04-26 01:02
#20
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Germany lor3nz 
+1
2019-04-26 01:06
#22
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Norway Lotharito1337 
There was no scene back then compared to scene we have right now
2019-04-26 01:06
#25
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Sweden Cruxor 
Lmao there isn't any scene right now either. We have astralis who is miles ahead of everyone else (Just like nip was) and then we have liquid/ navi who are the only real threat to astralis. The rest is dogshit. I wouldn't call having 3-4 competitive teams a scene. The only real competitive era of cs:go was during 2015-2017 when we had tons of good teams.
2019-04-26 01:12
#27
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Norway Lotharito1337 
Soooo? There is a scene right now which is sooooo much bigger than back in the NiP time. Scene back then is light years away from a scene that we have right now. Why do you think that pronax has no relevant team right now? He was mastermind back in Fnatic era. Bad fragger? I don't think so, just look at Zeus and even gob b. They certainly are not fraggers but they can give great leadership to their teams. The hardest thing is to adapt to the meta that is constantly changing. It's the thing that Astralis just perfected. They adapt and go even go ahead of the competition, that's what makes them so dominant. Scene that we have right now is VERY competetive If Liquid, NaVi or even ENCE existed back then in the lineups and ways they play right now they would have their own eras. They all play incredible CS but Astralis plays godlike.
2019-04-26 01:31
#28
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Brazil fkhltv 
u know that every game complicate during time right? especially when investment get bigger, like cs case. its obvious that cs got harder
2019-04-26 01:34
#42
Germany ayyy 
you have absolutely no clue what you are talking deluded nip fanboy. are you actually too stupid to understand that "no scene" and "no competition" are two completely different things? do you have the slighest clue how many teams had a gaming house back then? how many analysts, psychologists, sponsors? now every tier3 team has a coach and orga behind them, 6 years ago half of top20 were teams with just 5 players playing together
2019-04-26 11:45
#56
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Sweden Cruxor 
Lmao "deluded nip fanboy", where did I say that nip was anywhere near as good as Astralis? I simply stated that Astralis era right now is similar to the nip era where there was "no competition" since there is 1 godlike team and only 2 others that are capable of challenging that team. And yes I do know since I have been following the scene since dhw 2013
2019-04-26 16:58
#102
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Moldova gay_retard 
Seriously? You're really serious right now? I cannot tell if I have sensory problems or if I actually just witnessed a statement with such an immense amount of sheer stupidity. You know, I have seen the most bizarre things from some guy in class jerking it to Ronald Reagan tentacle hentai, to people linking Chernobyl to penis-shaped aliens, but your comment is by far the most fucking idiotic thing I have ever had the kind of horrible fucking luck one requires to hear your stupid fucking post. From this point on, when I think of you, I will imagine a diseased turtle taking an enormous dump, with so much unbelievably large amounts of shit that all the protons inside of the methyl sulfide this horrendous crap contains spontaneously fuse into uranium-235 that I can use to shove a nuke up your sub-mental ass. You can write that off as an exaggeration but it is 100% true from the bottom of my already-empty heart. I legitimately think that you lack intelligence. I would say you're mentally unstable but then I couldn't blame the terribly ignorant fucking post on you. I literally cannot comprehend how amazingly dimwitted your dumb ass is. I have trouble understanding the laws of physics, space, and time as if all laws of reality have been devastated and disintegrated due to how dense you are. I could write a damn book on your lack of intelligence that is so long, one could read the entire Series of Unfortunate Events series, watch the entire Godfather trilogy, and invent fucking time travel itself before it could even be published under a first edition. Half-Life 3 would be released centuries before I could finish the first chapter describing your purely pointless state of mind. I honestly cannot tell if you were abused too much or not abused enough, because you clearly did not go to school enough to get a proper fucking education. To quote George Washington, "Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company." In that case, I'm getting as far away from you as possible. Hell, I'm actually unironically considering moving to Macquarie Island just to be isolated from your brain cell-killing words for the rest of my now-miserable life. I would rather go insane from thinking about you to the point where I pull a Cast Away and consider sexual relations with a volleyball than actually spending time anywhere near you. There is honestly no other way of putting it; you're an irritating asshole who contributes absolutely nothing to this already dreadful planet. And that's saying a lot considering the fact that I've heard of carbon dioxide levels reaching 400 parts per million, Donald Trump becoming president, and toxic fucking comment sections that contain your stupid bullshit. And again I go, being confused by whatever quantum physics you are using to defy the laws of physics with your stupidity, to the point where I'm saying you are worse than yourself. I have nothing else that is most definitely as horrible as you to compare to except you yourself. How does that make you feel? Like a turtle taking a nuclear shit? I really don't have a single shit to give anyway, because you are living proof that there is no hope for humanity left. Really went downhill after that whole thing where Rome fell; that made a lot of people pissed off. But not as pissed off as I am after reading your stupid shit. No, buddy, if I should even call you that, I am not pissed off at your comment. I am FURIOUS. I am so furious that I will personally take that radioactive turtle shit myself just so I can rid the world of your baffling levels of unadulterated doltishness. You are more dull than oxygenated magnesium or even a samurai sword that hasn't been sharpened for a thousand years. And you better be glad that the sword is dull, because if it wasn't, it would be shoved up your ass just like the nuclear turtle shit. I am so fucking angry that even watching an Adam Sandler movie will make me happier than I am right now. If the Greeks made a god of stupidity, you would be the closest candidate to that fucking role. It's not a good thing when you're so fucking unintelligent that people like Socrates would get on their toga-wearing-ass knees to worship your dumb fucking ass. That's when you need to reconsider obviously pointless life choices. Read a fucking book for crying out loud, man! What the literal fuck is wrong with you? After this fiasco I will need at least 12 hours of building up sanity with my psychiatrist. After this she will need to prescribe Ritalin that I will have to take 5 times an hour just to prevent me from snapping because of your disgusting act of stupidity. Your post gave me type 5 syphilis, which I didn't even fucking know existed until I felt itchy dick. Thanks a fucking lot. That was sarcasm, by the way, if you're too stupid to understand what that is (you probably are). Is it even legal for someone to be enough of a dumbass to make someone experience these sorts
2019-04-26 21:05
#49
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Liechtenstein yppiL 
Astralis is just so good, Astralis' domination in such a competitive era shows that they're the best team to touch CS:GO. But I agree, CS:GO was also really competitive during 2015-2017 so it can be argued Fnatic are also one of the best teams to touch CS:GO.
2019-04-26 11:57
Back in NiP's glory days teams were 100x worse than they're now. Take 2013-2014 NiP vs 2019 Valiance, 3DMAX, Tricked, or even Epsilon and they would get 16-0'ed by them.. That's how tougher the scene is now than back then.
2019-04-26 17:02
flair checks out
2019-04-26 17:05
#82
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Sweden Cruxor 
How so? I never said that nip were better than astralis or nowhere near? I simply stated that their eras are similar in terms of opposition
2019-04-26 17:33
Still, if NiP was ahead of everyone else, so does Astralis, we are comparing how great the two best teams were against their competition, not how great the competition itself was/is. You’re losing the entire point of my comment, m8.
2019-04-26 01:34
Finally someone with a brain, thanks, was about to write the same thing.
2019-04-26 11:54
#24
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United States Pogromca 
+1 Haters won't admit it
2019-04-26 01:10
#76
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United States [BluE] 
Incorrect. NiP was playing in a time with a very immature scene, there wasn't nearly as much money in it back then, The scene was still young, and most pros couldn't even spray very well. They had the perfect team to take advantage of that kind of time. if NiP was in their prime now, they certainly wouldn't be the best team in the world, even if solid top 3/2. I could make an argument that they would be tied with Liquid, but i'm kinda biased on that. If you lined up all the best teams in history in their prime (fnatic, NiP, Sk/Luminosity, Astralis, & maybe EnvyUs & FaZe) NiP would probably be worse than Sk, and definitely worse than fnatic & Astralis. They would probably be better than EnvyUs & FaZe, but neither of those teams truly had an era.
2019-04-26 17:23
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2019-04-26 20:16
#101
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United States [BluE] 
It's still not exactly comparable in the same way. But I misunderstood what your point was, and I get what your saying.
2019-04-26 21:02
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India SinghSir 
+1 having an era when all t1 teams had changes is astrollish era
2019-04-26 17:07
Exactly, no other time teams has been swapping so many players all the time, It’s ridicolus low skill it’s now. All top 5-10 teams swapping atleast 2 players every other months
2019-04-26 17:34
There's no team which during their era hasn't lost a map to a team outside tier1.
2019-04-26 01:35
#48
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Indonesia edwardnauli91 
+1
2019-04-26 11:56
CSGO u mean
2019-04-26 17:03
#99
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Turkey door_stuck 
old time cs > all
2019-04-26 20:25
#4
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Spain 7VultuR 
Astralis wallhacking 100% Im now 100% sure they are wallhacking to many fishy plays, smoke kills, that cant be all "lucky" GG.
2019-04-26 00:52
#6
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Spain 7VultuR 
Xizt braindead Why let this man literally destroy swedish counter strike?
2019-04-26 00:53
#55
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Europe andy_ 
+1 the whole org is braindead
2019-04-26 13:13
#8
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Denmark Duckter007 
Huh? What about all the lucky BIG shots?
2019-04-26 00:54
#10
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Germany Fabbsen 
People got no gamesense and need to call them wallhack. But there is sound that can help you + spraying common angles.
2019-04-26 00:55
#37
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Spain 7VultuR 
These are some of his posts
2019-04-26 11:37
#36
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Spain 7VultuR 
These are some of his posts
2019-04-26 11:37
#50
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Spain elskio 
nt lowel
2019-04-26 11:58
#104
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Spain 7VultuR 
this is a post from the thread author
2019-04-27 00:10
#66
ckN | 
India SinghSir 
+1 I am with you brudder and against this danish site
2019-04-26 17:08
#103
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Spain 7VultuR 
this is a post from the thread author
2019-04-27 00:10
can you really compare cs back then and cs right now? teams back then would not be in top50 right now
2019-04-26 00:52
yes i can
2019-04-26 00:53
#12
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Europe potatomato 
wtf thats illegal
2019-04-26 00:56
Well, how do you explain TSM - astralis core not being able to win anything relevant in 2015 and getting stomped by Fnatic, VP and others on regular basis and now being top 1? The scene got nothing but worse according to the logic.. Jk, but it is terrible argument that the game was not competitive back then, it is evolving but the reaction times are staying almost the same and tactics are becoming arguably worse with few exceptions maybe.
2019-04-26 01:16
#44
Germany ayyy 
because everything around the game wasnt there? no coach, no gaming house, nothing. there wasnt even a handful of orga's that run smoothly besides: nip, verygames/titan and virtus pro, the rest started to develop a few year in cs go.
2019-04-26 11:50
astralis' core? yeah its almost as if changing 2 players + a coach influences a team. Also they were still a top10 team back then going to semis in majors etc. how do you explain that fnatic, nip, VP the entire french scene is now completely irrelevant, did they all magically become bad at once ???, no the game got more competetive and they couldnt keep up with young and upcomming talent
2019-04-26 11:56
Fnatic: Washed up of the competitive spirit + Losing pronax slowly killed it. NiP: Xizt got outdated, nowadays they're around Top 7 even with all the problems. Virtus.pro: Internal issues, kicking TaZ ruined it. French Scene: Literally Vitality. You're absolutely ridiculous.
2019-04-26 17:09
hahaha are you serious washed up of the competitive spirit, what tf does that even mean non of them retired or anything + losing pronax ????? they decided to kick him after he continously underperformed, not like he went away or anything yeah NIP is currently top7 with only 2 players from the original NIP, imagine if they had all stayed together they wouldnt even be top100 Xizt got outdated - another way of saying he cant keep up with competition Virtus.Pro - internal issues, yeah every team would have internal issues if they kept losing like they did, by the time taz got kicked VP was outside top30 French scene is nowhere close to the top as they were in the fnatic days simply cause the competition is much much higher today then back then. its honestly hillarious seeing someone try and make so many excuses for all these teams and players being nowhere near the top as they used to hahahah
2019-04-26 19:58
#51
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Liechtenstein yppiL 
TSM was pretty damn good in 2015, definitely a top 5-10 team.
2019-04-26 12:00
Stomped by fnatic? LMAO. TSM won more against fnatic than fnatic won against TSM. TSM were fnatic-kryptonite. Newfag?
2019-04-26 20:20
Of course not, there aren't amateurs teams anymore
2019-04-26 00:56
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Australia tavalol 
87-0 playing against literal monkeys omegalul
2019-04-26 00:56
87-0 is still pretty damn dominant
2019-04-26 00:57
#18
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Australia tavalol 
it's hard to lose when you are the only team playing the game seriously at the time. Look what happened when VP fully transitioned from 1.6 and VeryGames came over from source lol they started to lose every 2nd map
2019-04-26 01:02
Look at what happened when they transationed fully? They took more than one attempt to crack down NiP. Even after they lost the first map they still went on to win the majority of their next events for a while to come.
2019-04-26 17:06
#15
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Brazil cadik 
+1 NiP best beta testers of CSGO no real competition then
2019-04-26 00:57
#32
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Germany GODsuNny 
+1
2019-04-26 01:42
fluke
2019-04-26 01:06
#31
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Turkey Lennon1923 
+1
2019-04-26 01:38
#33
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Austria iVulkaN 
people saying there was no competition back then probably didn't even know the scene, THEY WON 87 SINGLE MAPS BACK TO BACK TO BACK and only loosing the 88th map 14-16 against Edward, Dosia, marloff, angel and Adren
2019-04-26 01:44
#35
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Netherlands poeya 
hard to admit but astralis era today is more impressive than old nip era just get over this fact
2019-04-26 01:46
Bad
2019-04-26 11:37
#39
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United Arab Emirates DuncanAK 
+1
2019-04-26 11:39
Most of other teams sucked back then But yeah this record is unique and will probably always remain the best one
2019-04-26 11:44
#68
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Faroe Islands |imperator 
most of the teams are suck nowadays
2019-04-26 17:09
87-0 when cs:go was still new and all the best teams like verygames were still playing source and 1.6
2019-04-26 11:47
Yes, exactly, except VeryGames was literally their biggest rival across the 87-0 streak. Delusional.
2019-04-26 17:05
literally look at the teams that they played over that stretch lmao. astralis would have gone 174-0 lmao
2019-04-26 19:53
#52
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Spain elskio 
87-0 against pub team not even semiprofessional team LUL
2019-04-26 12:06
#54
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Ukraine d3adLY 
They did 87-0 because only NiP was good
2019-04-26 12:47
Could use the same logic today that Astralis was the only 'good' team. Just because the meta of strategy was more like 1.6 doesn't mean there was no good teams or the like.
2019-04-26 17:04
+1
2019-04-26 17:32
#85
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Ukraine d3adLY 
Liquid, Navi, Faze are good too
2019-04-26 18:10
Exactly what I mean, it's a flawed argument. Teams like VeryGames, Virtus.pro, and Epsilon were good teams at the time of the 87-0.
2019-04-26 18:16
#88
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
VeryGames, Virtus.pro, and Epsilon 2013 < Liquid, Navi, Faze 2019
2019-04-26 19:51
#62
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Algeria abdodz45 
Hahaha when cs:go was trash game back then why your washed up team barely tier 3/4 now? EZ4ASTRALIS keep crying Noobs
2019-04-26 17:05
#70
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Croatia feelsbadmane 
87-0 is like Pele goals in football no one knew how to play cs/football back then
2019-04-26 17:10
NiP reached that record in a time the professional scene wasnt packed with extremly good teams as nowadays.
2019-04-26 17:10
NIP DOTA BEST DOTA
2019-04-26 17:11
#73
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Europe Deja_GG_Vu 
yep nip era nr1. the only reason so many people deny this is because they were not born or they were still not able to understand much because of being born recently.
2019-04-26 17:12
#74
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France LanaRhoades 
87-0 vs nonamers
2019-04-26 17:14
Nip the most consistant team Astralis the most dominant team
2019-04-26 17:14
Man you could definitely argue that Astralis is better but NiP was way more dominant
2019-04-26 17:32
#77
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Germany 'ezpz 
nip era was a joke like get_right best player of 2014
2019-04-26 17:23
Ofc
2019-04-26 17:31
#84
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France J0riS_ 
I don't see the point of comparing 2 eras that happened 5 years apart from each other and in 2012 NiP was the only good team with VeryGames and maybe Fnatic
2019-04-26 17:56
+1
2019-04-26 18:12
nip era > astralis era nip had a close team to play against VG Astralis have noone to match
2019-04-26 19:54
Omg get right best player 2019 xddddddddd
2019-04-26 19:57
#97
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Other Renegades_Fan 
It's like Wilt's 100 point game. In 30 years people will still talk about this time in esports, and reflect on how were all old and dead.
2019-04-26 20:21
50 players in total in NiP era
2019-04-26 20:22
87-0 in time where there was no good team lol
2019-04-26 20:27
Astralis stronk
2019-04-27 00:16
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