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GeT_RiGhT | 
Sweden SverigeStan 
So people always discuss on which country has the best military. The discussion is always big and no one has a real answer except China, Russia and USA. Here is my list: 1. USA 2. Russia 3. China 4. France 5. UK 6. Pakistan 7. India 8. South Korea 9. Japan 10. Turkey Thoughts?
2019-05-05 17:01
Brazil m4ri 
Pakistan kkkkkkkkkkk India kkkkkkkkk
2019-05-05 17:02
You clearly haven't read about any military have you?
2019-05-05 17:03
Their armies are fucking useless, zero power projection, all they can do is deny area by massed forces and treathen to nuke shitholes which already look post apocalyptic
2019-06-17 00:44
2019-06-17 12:25
what a counter argument, truly a fucking genius right here fellas
2019-06-20 23:22
I laughed at the comment. What you think that Pakistan and India doesn't deserve to be on the list? Don't really get it. Tell me why they shouldn't and i'll give you a proper response. Also holy shit. Sad to see retarded faggots comping to HLTV wasn't like this before.
2019-06-20 23:23
your counter argument is comparing me to a faggot? mate, just fucking move to texas already
2019-06-20 23:25
Nope, i'm telling you to tell me what your argument really is. That Pakistan and India shouldn't be on the list or what?
2019-06-20 23:28
'Also holy shit. Sad to see retarded faggots comping to HLTV wasn't like this before.' man, just stick to your arguments and don't be a degenarate cuck. way to be a fucking snowflake man, go melt already
2019-06-20 23:32
He has asked you twice now what you think about pakistan and india being placed on the list and you haven't even bothered to respond and instead decide to get even more difficult so i think you're the true "snowflake". How about you reply to his question so you can actually have a relatively civil discussion about the topic.
2019-06-21 00:10
I don't have shit to say about his damn subject. I'm replying to his moronic comments if you can't tell that yet
2019-06-21 00:20
Oh and just to clarify moving forward. I didn't mean powerful countries since that's where GDP plays a huge role. But i'm talking about how strong a military is.
2019-06-24 14:26
what's so great about counter-arguments?
2019-06-23 01:06
Europe smartSUFY1 
ROFL, agreed tbh.
2019-06-21 19:10
2019-06-21 19:17
Yep, and Mongolia is the strongest country in the world no doubts
2019-06-19 21:44
He is not from Mongolia..
2019-06-21 18:16
Who cares honestly.
2019-06-24 14:18
2019-06-23 13:10
read about any military
2019-06-20 03:01
2019-06-20 23:07
read about any military
2019-06-21 18:14
2019-06-21 18:57
shrek | 
United States shrek1 
2019-05-05 21:33
India's military is no joke
2019-06-19 18:28
Not one of them in the list are.
2019-06-19 21:40
Pakistan? Seriously dude?
2019-06-23 22:17
Flag checks out.
2019-06-24 14:18
IQ checks out.
2019-06-24 14:55
Flag checks out IQ of country checks out.
2019-06-24 14:57
Aur bhai kaisa hai , band kar ye ind vs pak aur world cup enjoy kar :))))))
2019-06-24 15:04
And how is the brother, close this country and enjoy the World Cup :)))))) Is that right?
2019-06-24 15:28
"That post of famous personalities " Amir khan ,zayn malik Smh Stop this shit lmao ,enjoy the world cup my brother Hope ind vs pakistan semi again :))
2019-06-24 15:59
First defeat Afghanistan men. Also not Pakistan. You do realize that was a troll when my name was acting like a refugee.
2019-06-24 16:00
That afganistan match tough but good eye opener for india, 'name was refugee' ??
2019-06-24 16:02
When i was acting like a refugee. Either way if India want's to go through then they have to play better then what they did in the Afghanistan game. Since they have tough matches.
2019-06-24 16:14
Really Hope england lose all their 3 matches and pakistan win all 3,and india vs pakistan semi final at old trafford gl
2019-06-24 16:17
I do want to see a match between both of them since the hype is always big. But if England lose all their matches and Pakistan wins the're matches. Then Pakistan will be in 4th place and play New Zealand that will surely stay on top. In the semi final the bracket is that the first team faces the 4th team and the second the 3rd. The're is only one way Pakistan and India face each other other than a final and that chance is pretty low.
2019-06-24 16:24
Never mind just looked at the standings. India has a big chance of coming first place and Pakistan has a big chance coming 4th place and will surely face India. But it comes all down to England and Australia. England vs Australia New Zealand vs Pakistan India vs England Will show how the standings will be.
2019-06-24 16:31
Are pakistani bhai hai ye sverigestan ,ind vs pak ki bakchodi hoti hi rhegi lol
2019-06-24 15:05
But India have nukes
2019-07-09 17:24
Thats so boring I prefer regional comparison. USA and China above all so much
2019-05-05 17:02
2 big different topics lol.
2019-05-05 17:04
Vietnam Furbelow 
2019-06-21 12:27
I think germany should be there instead of turkey
2019-05-05 17:04
Yeah i thought about it but decided to go with Turkey but why tho?
2019-05-05 17:05
France Pattapain 
german haven't nuclear bomb :)
2019-05-06 17:05
Turkey doesn't either tho.
2019-06-17 00:18
boltz | 
Germany Yavex 
German army OMEGALUL
2019-06-17 19:46
Turkish army is so much more disciplined than german army,people underestimate turkish army a lot but our army is probably stronger than pakistan’s military without nukes
2019-06-19 21:50
Turkey has #1 airforce in the world
2019-06-20 03:03
2019-06-20 23:21
Atleast most talented
2019-06-21 12:16
CIS undamaged 
2019-06-21 12:27
LOL NAH. The most talented pilots and best pilots from each country are from the UK, Pakistan and the US.
2019-06-21 17:13
Nope, Turkey most talented.
2019-06-21 20:48
what a counter argument, truly a fucking genius right here fellas
2019-06-24 14:19
I tend to write clearly and straight how things are, when im "arguing" with children with no brain
2019-06-25 02:23
what a counter argument, truly a fucking genius right here fellas
2019-06-28 14:57
India Noobdian1 
Spotted fakeflagger Pakistan kkkkkk
2019-06-22 07:10
Pakistan NoNamerPK 
M.M.Alam Kkkkkkkk
2019-06-23 13:11
India Noobdian1 
2019-06-23 13:24
Please stfu brown shit.
2019-06-24 14:21
India Noobdian1 
Is your shit red?
2019-06-24 16:01
Nah it's your color.
2019-06-24 16:12
India Noobdian1 
Red is not my colour lmaooo
2019-06-24 16:12
My shit=Dark brown Your face= Shit
2019-06-24 16:14
India Noobdian1 
What So racist Reported
2019-06-24 16:43
No men Sorry I gave an explanation.
2019-06-24 20:28
The US would have a few words about that
2019-06-21 18:20
Not atm I guess
2019-06-24 16:08
"Turkeys military is stronger than Pakistan's military without nukes." That was the shittiest argument this year. Sure Pakistan has missiles and nukes that Turkey doesn't have. But saying stuff like that is just funny lol. Also if you compare both countries military excluding nukes and missiles then: Turkey has a bigger budget. Pakistan has more active, reserve and people available for their military. Comparing the ground force; Pakistan has way more modern and more tanks. They have more total artillery. The only thing that Turkey has more is armored fighting vehicles. When comparing the the air force. Turkey in total has more helicopters and aircraft. But if we check the quality (what the aircraft are) Pakistan is the only one with attach aircrafts. It has thrice the more Fighter aircrafts. Also Pakistan is way more modern and has F-16's and is planning on buying the new F-35 while Turkey is not the're yet. In the navy Pakistan has a bigger total navy. But Turkey more frigates corvettes and submarines. So comparing it Pakistan still is way ahead then Turkey. But the're is no real reason on comparing both of them since they both just love each other.
2019-06-20 23:21
Hii s400 wtff? Turkey > pakistan
2019-06-21 00:08
What are you on dude? Turkey has more tanks,more APC’s,more SPA and towed artilleries than pakistan. Also Turkey is so much more better at navy than pakistan. Also if you are going to look at number of personnel why didnt you involve NK? They have numbers? Just like pakistan
2019-06-21 03:36
Did you read what i wrote? I compared everything. You do realize that Pakistan is ahead in many points. Sure Turkey has more tanks but i'm comparing everything when it comes to ground forces.
2019-06-21 17:11
"Pakistan has way more modern and more tanks. They have more total artillery. The only thing that Turkey has more is armored fighting vehicles." i did read it,did you?
2019-06-21 17:26
I don't get it you didn't really answer what i really wrote. But either way both countries seem to love each other.
2019-06-21 17:47
He was countering your point about how Pakistan is better in every way, saying that they're not only better in tanks, but APCs, Self Propelled Artillery and towed artillery.
2019-06-21 18:17
Well i did mention that on the ground force that Turkey has more stuff than Pakistan. But Pakistan is way more modern. That's my point specially when it comes to the ground force.
2019-06-21 18:59
Fair enough.
2019-06-21 19:02
what a counter argument, truly a fucking genius right here fellas KIDDIN
2019-06-21 19:03
I dont think thats true at all,not gonna lie i dont have that much info about pakistani stuff but i know turkey has some modern tanks like leopard and turkish made atak and shit(also we have so much more better artillery which is very important on ground imo). And i was talking about you saying pakistan has more tanks and artillery,which is not true.
2019-06-21 20:50
Check the stats bro. Pakistan is better when it comes to the ground force and has better tanks. Just look at their Al-Khalid.
2019-06-24 14:22
Turkey Undaunted 
2019-06-21 12:27
germany is already turkey men)))
2019-06-21 20:04
2019-06-21 20:46
2019-06-24 14:23
Tr more powerfull man , we have bad economy yes but army index is very high
2019-06-23 16:12
Most of these sites are irrelevant. Since they look at GDP and other stuff that is not important when it comes to a military. Since a military GDP is not important but it's budget and spending.
2019-06-24 14:24
Military tech is important because when war knocking your door you can sell your technology to other countries, That is what US does most of the time ...
2019-06-24 15:25
Did you read what i wrote?
2019-06-24 15:29
1.Russia India > UK
2019-05-05 17:04
1. Russia expected from Serbia lmao India>UK why?
2019-05-05 17:06
Both nuclear powers India has a slightly weaker budget but that does not matter at all India has 6000 tanks while UK has around 200 Indian air force consists of 1000 planes while UK's airforce consists of again around 200 And Indian military personnel is over 1 million This 2 armies are literally uncomparable in any way shape or form
2019-05-05 17:10
The Indian military is stronger than UK. But the reason why i putted UK over India was because India has way worse allies and could easily be attacked by Pakistan if they ever focused on UK. But allies shouldn't matter so you are right.
2019-05-05 17:13
India is looking pretty bad with their allies but they do have alot of treaties with russia but on the other side they are not good with China
2019-05-05 17:15
Yea they have a good allies with Russia. But i don't think that Russia wants to involved in a war where Pakistan attacks India and even with the possibility of China and also in this situation the UK.
2019-05-05 17:17
Bad with allies ,do you even know where is india on the map looooool ,please stop this I am laughing so hardddddd
2019-05-06 17:45
Worse allies lollllll these topics are not for kids seriously stop please
2019-05-06 17:44
Sad to see people with under 80 IQ coming to HLTV.
2019-05-06 17:48
Sad to see people believing on online iq statss
2019-05-06 17:49
lol really?
2019-05-06 17:51
so you have intel directly from the defence headquarter?
2019-06-21 17:53
2019-06-28 15:22
Worse allies? How? They are in NATO and they also have good relations with russians ? Wtf u talking bout Holy fuck how old this post is? Damn
2019-06-19 21:54
Yes and Poland had a huge cavalry when Germans attacked :D Counting planes or tanks is for retards if you dont take into account what type those are. Old obsolete jets are useless vs anyone with real military.
2019-05-05 20:49
german had over a million troops attacking poland so the polish didn't have more troops while India does have some obsolete tanks and planes they also do have newest generation tanks and planes
2019-05-05 20:52
Obsolete things are useless if you are not fighting vs people with sharpened fruits as weapons.
2019-05-05 21:05
typical thinking of a western european
2019-05-05 21:07
India has no where close 1000 war ready planes unless they plan to bomb some even less developed country to shit. They have Sukhois with outdated tech.
2019-05-05 21:12
Not only that it's not that developed. The thing is that India has way less capability for powering their weapons like fuel and ammunition. Which has been a big problem.
2019-06-17 00:20
we are improving for sure.
2019-06-21 18:12
Probably at the expense of people like yourself and others in your city.
2019-06-21 18:18
Poland lost because they lacked equipment not soldiers, they had about 1 million troops although not fully mobilized. Germany had 15x their tanks and airplanes
2019-06-25 21:24
The're is a reason why you look at how modernized you're weapons.
2019-05-06 17:49
United States Trump2020KAG 
Them 200 planes are all current gen fighters/bombers plus UK has a brand new aircraft carrier loaded with F-35 s/b jets
2019-06-19 19:39
2019-06-19 21:41
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
But F-35 isnt very good. For example f-22 outshines it in every way.
2019-06-23 01:51
United States Trump2020KAG 
except stealth and take America dont sell raptors...only we have them
2019-06-23 04:27
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
Yeah, US doesnt sell them because f-22 is so good and has so much advanced technology.
2019-06-23 10:52
United States Trump2020KAG 
yes but in different things...f-35s can take off straight up with out a runway and has better stealth then the a air vs air yes raptor better
2019-06-23 14:53
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
only the navy model can take off vertical
2019-06-23 15:50
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
Quality>quantity. Even if india has 800 planes more it has mig-21 that is old as fuk
2019-06-19 21:54
Because numbers
2019-05-05 17:10
Nope. Check the numbers. Turkey has a way way better ground and air force and also a better navy.
2019-05-05 17:14
What? it's about india vs UK xD
2019-05-05 17:18
Thought you meant on Germany being better than Turkey on the comment you mentioned above. But as i said i didn't choose India over UK since India would have a hard time going over EU and NATO ground to come to UK and also UK has way better allies. If India ever focused on the UK Pakistan would probably attack them.
2019-05-05 17:20
Lol wtf I just read
2019-05-06 17:46
My bad, just to clarify. If India would ever focus in a other country other than Pakistan when it comes to a war. They it will surely be attached by Pakistan while also being attacked by the UK (since we are comparing both countries). Which will make India lose the war. But if you remove other relations and focus on only the UK and India. India has problems within it's military like powering it's military. (They have problems regarding ammunition and fuel). Also since India and the UK being so far apart from each other. A bombing would surely happen and where the UK is way more developed as a country with more nukes and better and more modernized jets. UK would surely have the upper hand.
2019-06-17 00:26
United States tw1isttv 
Flag checks out
2019-05-05 20:41
50 million immigrants vs 1 million immigrants
2019-06-19 17:54
Nobody cares of military of EU countries
2019-05-05 17:06
Why? When your talking about the best militaries you will have EU countries included.
2019-05-05 17:08
He is likely used to hearing what the state TV make up about the world.
2019-05-05 18:12
Don't be naive. They have rifles, pistols, grenades and armored car
2019-05-05 21:06
2019-05-07 16:42
Germany Bier 
That's literally the only thing russia is top3 in lol. Well this and corruption
2019-06-21 00:33
Germany is nowhere near top3 in world politic. Most cocksucking country which change sided every time, you support USA, then you support Russia, then you support USA and this goes over and over again. EU military is police-like military, you can fight with France size country but thats all.You dont need to fight for something, you already have owners from both sides. I dont remember when EU made something opposite to USA.
2019-06-22 00:06
Germany is the most influential country in World politic - With distance.
2019-06-22 07:01
Maybe not by themselves but combine them all, and I doubt Russia would win.
2019-06-21 18:20
I don't even want to think about it Europe has bled enough this past century, let it rest :<
2019-06-24 16:04
Looks like list is correct, but spending billions on the maintenance of the army is so pointless nowadays when you can just develop nukes and keep praying that there's no way in the hell people will let WW3 happen.
2019-05-05 17:08
Agreed. Should i then put countries with nukes over others?
2019-05-05 17:09
U.S. defence busuness is the biggest corruption swamp on the Earth. They steal money, noone interested in sweaty soldiers and rusty hummers there.
2019-05-05 20:59
ti nedavno nachal baitit' na hltv? 500 commentov za 3 goda, no takoe chystvo chto segodnya ya yvidel kak minimum 100 replies ot tebya.
2019-05-05 21:24
I come here to find some matches to watch. I actually don't like all that retarded battles, I have really had enough of that shit for years. I have to engage when someone starts spreading shit about my country. Western people are brainwashed af. No one of them know real situation. They have 3-4 cliche and spam it everywhere. And there are some Russian people who dumb enough to shit on our country on international forum. We have problems we must discuss and solve them internally. No eti maloletnie uebany srut zdes' so slezami na glazax o tom kak zhostko ix ebet Putin. Eto ne delo.
2019-05-06 18:41
2019-05-07 16:43
coming from russia who puts even more of their %GDP into their military, LOL
2019-06-22 09:17
No Israel despite their nuclear weapons?
2019-05-05 17:52
They are using all their tools to kill women and children, so they have nothing left.
2019-05-05 18:01
they use nuclear bombs?
2019-05-05 18:02
Officially they don't have them.
2019-05-05 18:02
Their is no proof of Israel having nuclear weapons. But if you just take it's military it's not close to having a ground and air force near these countries.
2019-05-05 19:58
I agree on both points. In most situations countries or rather their leaders behave rational. If your army is to defend yourself or at the most oppress some people without an army then you don't need that much, really all you need is an army strong enough that would be attackers find that doing so would be too expensive.
2019-05-05 20:26
+3 Couldn't say it better.
2019-05-05 20:39
Not close? Israel is at 15 millions/years while Turkey is at 18. Alongside with their 2 years conscription it is what I call "close".
2019-05-05 21:00
I'm sorry what are you talking about? Turkeys military is way better than Israels check the stats.
2019-05-06 17:01
I think you underrate israel, they put resources to their military almost like nobody else, and its pretty clear to everyone that israel got nuclear bombs. Ofc f.e turkey have a lot more people, but this days wars are not so much about the men power.
2019-05-07 16:55
First of all they don't officially have nuclear weapons the're are no proofs. If you check their ground, air force and NAVY they are nothing close to what the other countries on the list are.
2019-05-07 16:59
Yeah they have no admitted it directly, but all know they do have. If you claiming that its not clear, you must be stupid. Having nuclear, makes a really big difference, and beside that there is not so big difference in the other things compared to f.e turkey. Menpower doesnt mean so much this days as its all about modern technology and bombing.
2019-05-07 17:08
If everyone knows that Israel has nukes, why don't they just make it official? Sure it makes a difference. But since Turkey and Israel are close a invasion can happen without nukes.
2019-05-08 15:41
Its well known that they have them but no one really knows why they dont admit it. I guess they dont want to aggravate their neighbors further by implying "dont fuck with us or you'll be obliterated". Which is pretty much what your doing by announcing that you have a nuclear arsenal.
2019-06-24 15:08
2019-06-24 15:27
Finland hotguy2004 
north korea scariest
2019-05-05 18:05
Nah, just because they test nuclear weapons doesn't make them the scariest. They are nothing compared to any other country with nukes.
2019-05-05 19:59
Depending if you live in South Korea or not.
2019-05-05 21:01
Irrelevant lol.
2019-05-06 17:02
United States Equinox2018 
South Korea would be North Korea's first target, then U.S. But by the time N.K. Fires on S.K., US will be expecting a nuclear strike and already send a retaliatory nuke to N.K. Chances of firing a nuke at S.K. are low right now, because they have gotten a bit close, but still a large possibility.
2019-05-07 17:01
North Korea using their nuclear weapons is pretty much their country doing suicide.
2019-06-17 00:29
North Korea is just like an impetuous kid with a couple nukes at their disposal. Scariest not because of they are potent; they are nowhere close to being called one, but of their recklessness in regard of peace treaty.
2019-06-24 16:07
Europe Instabait 
I would not put France over UK.
2019-05-05 18:13
France is way better than UK in every way.
2019-05-05 19:57
what way
2019-05-05 20:13
2019-05-07 16:42
2019-06-17 15:35
France CKs1 
Guy UK except for navy never been a great millitary power but france got one of the best navy (second or third ). A not bad ranking (but not perfect):
2019-06-17 19:56
Who cares what Military Power we have as single countries in the EU, we still have NATO, so we are fine.
2019-05-05 18:14
Irrelevant as relations can change and specially when it's war. Every country is for them self.
2019-05-05 20:00
Portugal nakbarone 
Not at this day and age
2019-06-17 00:30
2019-06-17 00:39
Turkey is also in NATO but they have to use their army to fight with "terror"
2019-05-05 20:48
Yea exactly. When it comes to wars each country is with them self. Which has been proven throughout history and even nowadays.
2019-06-17 00:29
Imagine USA agreeing to put their west coast at risk because they have to defend another NATO member, Poland for exemple for being too cocky. Since the 20th century, USA suffered 2 attacks on their soil : Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Look how shocked they were and still are. You and I live in countries with years of war on their soil, we can easily find place with the scars of wars all around us. They can't. So, risking a massive bombing/invasion to save a random NATO member? I can't believe it. I believe in Europe, as we all have relatives that fought on their very land, that have seen their house/town destroyed we have a very different understanding of war than the USA. And I even ask myself if the ratio of PTSD vet is the same in our forces than in theirs, and if that historical link with war could explain such difference.
2019-05-05 21:09
true that, if we don't count terrorist attack they haven't experienced a single war on their territory. Well Pearl Harbour is actually their soil but come on it is in the middle of the fucking ocean, not even close to borders
2019-05-05 21:20
While not modern, the US has had its revolution, civil war, and the war of 1812, so wars have happened there, just not within the past 150 years
2019-06-22 09:12
well civil and internal wars are another stories to be fair
2019-06-23 21:16
2019-06-24 01:34
Russia grEminence 
Who cares? The real power is GDP per capita, so 1. Switzeland 2. Norway 3. Canada Etc Or smth like that.
2019-05-05 18:17
Japan hirohito 
*qatar luxembourg singapore
2019-05-05 18:19
Europe Instabait 
2019-05-05 19:59
A country buddy.
2019-05-05 20:00
It's not how it works buddy. If you don't invest in your military then you're not the most powerful.
2019-05-05 19:57
Today earlier you were asking for Ukraine passport. Fast progress man! I'm impressed! But it's still way to go. I believe in you as you're Russian. Money can't win a war, truth can
2019-05-05 20:54
Russia Hellyer 
Truth? Are we talking about the Russian state, right?
2019-05-05 21:21
You look suspect, why all these questions
2019-05-05 21:23
Russia Hellyer 
Why not tho? We are on a forum website where people can talk to each other
2019-05-05 21:29
Yeah you may talk to me
2019-05-05 21:44
No, power is total GDP. The total economic capacity of a nation. Wealth is GDP per Capita, and is often more reflective of standards of living, not pure influence/power.
2019-05-06 18:23
2019-06-17 00:31
Hahah idiot :D Per Capita ...
2019-06-22 07:03
pakistan over india omegalul they have like 15% of total indian population. + you dont know anything about indian armies / fighter planes / nukes. pakistan will be turned to dust even if we send like 50% army and some stray dogs. also 10 = turkey ???
2019-05-05 18:20
Was waiting for you. Pakistan is nothing compared to India's population. But the military workers are not different. Pakistan sits by 1,5 million people including reserve personal while India at 2,4 million. Sure may look like a big difference. But India has a way more space to cover and their country is way more bigger. Also they need people over at the Chinese borders. Since a clash with Pakistan means that they would have to cover the Chinese borders and can't use all their man power on Pakistan. The fact is that you can find enough about every country and it's military. India has 4 times bigger budget but that is irrelevant the thing that matters is the weapons. If you start by the navy India has more aircraft but most of them are old. While Pakistan has a way modernized air force including the F-16 F-7PG and it also has more helicopters and have has the best well trained pilots of the world. The navy of India is way bigger. But the small navy of Pakistan has way better weapon and Pakistan has a way way smaller coastline compared to India. Pakistan ground force is a bit smaller then India's. But Pakistan as i said before is way more modernized by everything then India. Also Indian forces is limited by inadequate logistics, maintenance and shortages of ammunition and spare parts Also Pakistan has a better nuclear program more nukes, bombs. What's wrong with Turkey being 10th?
2019-05-05 20:12
India and China doesnt have that much border tho,there is Himalayas.
2019-05-05 20:47
India Noobdian1 
2019-06-22 07:09
Lol do u even knw anything abt international relations between countries?? India borders with pakistan and china but 90% of Chinese border is on Himalayan terrain and india have strong political relationship between usa russia, japan and Israel .
2019-05-05 21:24
Israel would be the only one fighting alongside India. Since USA would be neutral between a conflict with Pakistan and India. Russia also supports both India and Pakistan and China being on Pakistan side would make them neutral. Japan isn't interested in being involved in any war. The Indian and Chinese border doesn't change the fact that Pakistan has a better military than India. Also it could still cause disability in India.
2019-05-06 17:08
U shd really update ur knowledge
2019-05-06 22:48
Nice argument.
2019-05-07 15:59
lool quality over quantity he means
2019-06-19 19:32
thank me later for putting it in simple words, considering the ability of Indians to understand
2019-06-19 19:33
Their prime minister has 10 IQ.
2019-06-19 21:46
United States 9ine_qBk 
You clearly have no idea about India and Pakistan LOL. You're misinformed by a thousand miles.
2019-06-21 17:53
Tell me men
2019-06-21 18:53
United States 9ine_qBk 
You need to know a lot about these countries which you clearly don't. Judging by your comments on this forum. There's many internal issues and factors that matter when it comes to these 2 nations which you wouldn't know and that's completely understandable. But please don't argue about something you don't know of.
2019-06-21 19:28
2019-06-24 14:29
Italy kyoor 
definitely pakistani
2019-06-21 19:26
Oh no busted lol
2019-06-21 19:32
India Noobdian1 
Nice fake flag and #505
2019-06-22 07:08
India Noobdian1 
Lmao at least he knows that Japan and Germany don't share borders unlike your pm
2019-06-22 07:07
he clearly meant France, it was an error of speech, you dont see him flexing about how well informed he was, by going on national tv saying clouds would hide the planes from the radar, there's difference between two, thats why we separated from you guys lool,
2019-06-22 18:15
India Noobdian1 
Still India_3wars_Pakistan0
2019-06-22 18:49
lool the onli war truly lost was kargil, other two, India despite their overwhelming numbers couldnt beat Pakistan lool, PAK 2 - 1 India, 3-1 if you count 26 feb showdown lmao
2019-06-22 23:49
India Noobdian1 
Delusional af lmao
2019-06-23 04:14
nice argument, Indian IQ
2019-06-23 11:53
India Noobdian1 
Well everyone knows that we won CoUnTiNg 26 fEb Showdown Lmao was it a war? No
2019-06-23 12:45
"if you count" considering you guys can say clouds will block radar detection, we should expect anything from you guys, so i just put it up there just incase :))
2019-06-23 13:08
India Noobdian1 
Btw Germany the most developed asian country
2019-06-23 13:24
lol here we have a nice showoff.
2019-07-09 17:14
Please stop this little kid, I will die of laughter
2019-05-06 17:47
26 February men :))))))
2019-06-19 19:31
India Noobdian1 
1965?? 1971?? 1999??
2019-06-22 07:09
well we kinda won two of them too so yeah :')
2019-06-22 18:13
India Noobdian1 
Well you didn't So yeah
2019-06-22 18:46
nt kid
2019-06-22 23:49
India Noobdian1 
But you didn't
2019-06-23 04:15
but we did, sad Indian brother
2019-06-23 11:53
India Noobdian1 
But you didn't Delusional
2019-06-23 12:44
your history books? yes they are
2019-06-23 13:07
India Noobdian1 
In 1971, India won the war against Pakistan that resulted in the birth of Bangladesh (then East Pakistan). On this day 47 years ago, Pakistan lost half its country, its forces in the East, and had to publicly surrender to India. It was also the largest military surrender after World War II.
2019-06-23 13:22
India Noobdian1 
It's from Google btw
2019-06-23 13:22
India Noobdian1 
It's literally everywhere that you surrendered lmao Let's finish this gn mate
2019-06-23 17:36
mate you just proved how fucking stupid you really are, I would have gone through and fucking pinpointed every retarded thing you just said but I'd probably lose a few brain cells b4 I even start.
2019-06-21 00:23
Tell me why your military is stronger than Pakistan tho? "I got points" Tell me or STFU
2019-06-21 17:08
because we have won three wars before with them . In 1999 war they had to surrender.Their air force may be stronger but india has geographical advantages due to which they were able to win despite of the fact that india had weaker ammunition and fighter jets.
2019-06-21 18:01
First of all when comparing them from history. When Pakistan became a independent nation it had nothing. While India was still a country which Pakistanis worked for that worked for the British. But did you really expect Pakistan to win a war when they were a young nation that had nothing? Can you please tell what geographical advantage India has? India is way bigger than Pakistan and has a way bigger landmass to cover. Which makes it hard to take care and protect every one and protect them self from an invasion.
2019-06-21 18:56
Pakistan got independence in 1947,war errupted in 1965,1999 .Moreover Pakistan had high tech weapons that america gave them to fight terrorism but still were insufficient to ein the war .Indian army penetrated till lahore ,the commercial capital of pakistan while the pakistani force couldnt even reach jammu due to the mountains and uneven trenches.Moreover if pakistan and india ever had a war china would not declare war on india ,they are just friend with benefits with pakistan.
2019-06-22 06:08
He is a pakistani ,never going to accept they lost all 4 wars lol
2019-06-22 06:44
America gave hi tech to PAKISTAN lmao, our soldier fought terrorist who had american weapons. dont @ me on this, Pakistan won 65 and 71 because with the overwhelming numbers India could've easily wiped Pakistan off, but we strategically out played India, we did more with less so if you look at this considering equity not equality Pakistan won both wars, Kargil however was another story, that one we lost, also 26feb men, i dont think we lost that one either, so yeah
2019-06-22 23:53
yes you didnt loose you just surrendered. lol dumb Pakistani
2019-06-23 06:25
but its lose* not loose that we certainly didnt
2019-06-23 11:52
India Noobdian1 
While India was still a country What?
2019-06-22 18:47
I'm sorry i don't know much about the 4 wars between you 2. But what i meant is that Pakistan was never a country. It was India. It worked for them. (During the British.)
2019-06-24 14:06
I bothered watching this just to make sure I was right on this: You've got to be Pakistani or something, I was right, it isn't even close at all on any category. And the video even said the Indian army was more advanced as well.
2019-06-22 07:17
apparently wikipedia and quora are a reliable source of information now
2019-06-22 23:55
Where in the video did he say he was referencing only wikipedia and quora? And wikipedia is a decent source of information either way.
2019-06-23 01:33
history has proven time and time again, quantity dont win you wars, quality does. Just look at the recent showdown, 26feb where Pakistan claims to destroying two Indian Aircrafts one of which was sukhoi, with JF-17 block 2, they have better tech, but Pakistan have better quality personnel who can make use of inferior tech to the max
2019-06-22 23:59
How many Pakistani aircraft fought against the two Indian aircraft?
2019-06-23 01:36
two JF-17 block 2, Mig and Su were chasing a F-16 on his way back from Indian Airspace, and a couple of J-17 did intercepted them, and rest is history
2019-06-23 11:58
So the F-16 was outnumbered, in that case I don't see your point.
2019-06-23 20:02
PAF sent a single F-16 to lure them in, and while they were chasing that F-16, Thunders intercepted the iAF aircrafts
2019-06-24 00:19
So, from what you're telling me the Indian aircraft were outnumbered. It's not like the single F-16 fought them alone, it was just there to lure the Indians in.
2019-06-24 00:21
The reason i put Pakistan over India is because: India has problems in it's resources like fuel and ammunition. Pakistan has more and better nukes that can be used in a tactical advantage. Since India has such a big population and is so big. If ever defending from an attach they will have problems. Because India can't really protect everyone and if they ever tried they would be to stretched out and would also lose offensively. By average one Pakistani solider can kill up to 8 Indian soldiers. When it comes to the military workers that's where Pakistan is ahead.
2019-06-24 14:17
Can't defend everyone? Dude the border is the same size for both countries and India has more people to defend it with. Why would they need to defend everyone simultaneously? In war there's something called a front line and that's what you have to protect. Your bias is really obvious, so many people have disagreed with you on this.
2019-06-24 21:01
Well i guess i'm mad irritated by the Indians. Also an invasion can happen from more then just the border. The're is something called a coastline. Which India has and that a really big one. My other points also still stand.
2019-06-24 21:03
Lmao it's not just Indians disagreeing with you though, it's me and many other Europeans. Tbh I don't really care too much about who's stronger, but your bias is extremely obvious. Pakistan spends around a fifth on their military that India does, it has a smaller military, and its military is less modernized. There's really no reason to believe they'd win in my opinion.
2019-06-24 21:10
France 0racle 
2019-05-05 20:47
2019-05-06 17:04
2019-05-07 16:00
salty? lool PAK MILITARY >>>>>> IND and thats a fact
2019-06-19 19:30
Germany 1112Leon 
1. North Korea 2. China 3. Vietnam 4. Cuba 5. Russia
2019-05-05 20:45
Hello, We respect special people
2019-05-05 20:49
Germany 1112Leon 
Men, USA can't win anything Only bombing for oil Only invade countrys with fascist dictators for more economic cooperations North Korea have to save us
2019-05-05 20:58
Who looks after you? It's late already
2019-05-05 21:02
Germany 1112Leon 
Men, you country is bad since 1953 My country is bad since 1989
2019-05-05 21:04
Oh shit men. What can we do now?
2019-05-05 21:07
Germany 1112Leon 
Reading Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Mao to learn the situation
2019-05-05 21:14
And what about Bible?
2019-05-05 21:16
Germany 1112Leon 
You can do with the bible what you want
2019-05-05 21:19
Jesus loves you. Not sure about Marx and company
2019-05-05 21:20
Germany 1112Leon 
Jesus loves me? Oh why
2019-05-05 21:25
Because we all are God's children
2019-05-05 21:28
Germany 1112Leon 
But what is when I don't believe there is an god?
2019-05-05 21:29
Then you'll be unhappy and finally go to hell I mean after death
2019-05-05 21:40
What did i just read?
2019-06-17 00:34
JW | 
Sweden greveNse 
Israel not even top 10? U high?
2019-05-05 20:48
Israel in top 10? You have no knowledge.
2019-05-07 16:01
India on 4 and rest of the order same just because of their numbers IMO.
2019-05-05 20:49
Was thinking about it but i feel the France is better. UK being better was sure thing wrong.
2019-05-07 16:01
Israel number 1 because they control the USA
2019-05-05 21:11
They can't even ensure safety in own country.
2019-05-05 21:18
Then why don't they get the US to wipe out all their neighboring countries
2019-05-05 22:36
That's more or less what they're doing but noone is informing you in those exact words. Why do you think we suddenly had mass waves of immigration into Europe? Americanos obliterating Israel's enemies, that's why.
2019-05-06 17:10
2019-05-06 17:12
You disagree? Or you find it funny?
2019-05-06 17:15
Hard rekt.
2019-06-17 00:35
12iq hltv argument.
2019-05-05 21:16
u mom gay
2019-06-23 16:14
u dad lesbian
2019-06-23 16:49
u sister mister
2019-06-23 18:15
u dog cat
2019-06-23 22:06
damn you win this round! have to have a talk with my dog (cat)
2019-06-23 22:07
1. UK
2019-05-05 21:30
2019-05-07 16:47
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
mroe like 1. us 2. china 3. israel 4. russia
2019-05-05 21:34
Nice joke.
2019-05-07 16:47
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
You are the baiter here, not me.
2019-05-07 17:27
Israel 3 is a bait m8.
2019-06-17 00:35
Brazil Haschera 
Where is Israel?
2019-05-05 21:36
2019-05-05 21:46
Israel isn't good enough.
2019-05-07 16:48
Israel Ystyg 
Israel is much stronger than Turkey, you can see it everywhere, try using google
2019-06-17 15:44
I would go with this list: Probably the one you can trust the most
2019-05-05 21:39
That list was bad lol.
2019-05-07 16:48
Nobody knows the true militaries. The ones on this list are based on what's known.
2019-05-07 19:40
Exactly but you can make a list based on what you know since it's pretty similar.
2019-05-08 15:43
The fact that everyone that's making list about military strength is always wrong means that you just shouldn't read those lists because every list is wrong, but this is the best one i know.
2019-05-08 15:48
If you shouldn't follow military strength. Then countries with nuclear weapons should be put higher than other countries. Countries with modernized and strong weapons should be put higher than countries like Italy that was mentioned in the list lol.
2019-06-17 00:37
#1 new world order elite
2019-05-06 17:04
Pretty sure Israel should be on the list, on the upper half of it.
2019-05-06 17:11
Just read other comments on people thinking the same.
2019-06-19 21:46
You necroed a month old thread to make an unintelligible statement?
2019-06-19 23:40
Well i'm bored i guess. Tell me why Israel should be on the upper side of the list and i'll give you a proper response :P
2019-06-20 23:05
I guess just about everything in Israel's history suggests that they're a real shady bunch. The US seems to be committed to wiping out Israel's enemies, so this alone suggests that they have a special relation to the most powerful country on earth. That puts them high on the list all by itself. Also, the Balfour declaration was a disgusting distortion of what international diplomacy is supposed to be. And lastly, I really hate the victim card and jews play that card better than any other group, rivalled only perhaps by women. Ironically enough, they also seem to be the most powerful ethnic group in the world. So they're powerful, and yet oppressed at the same time.
2019-06-20 23:42
Looooool fkkkkk
2019-05-06 17:48
Mad cuz Pakistan>India
2019-06-19 21:46
Liechtenstein army best
2019-05-06 18:12
#1 USA #2 China #3 Germany #4 Russia #5 India #6 Saudi-Arabia #7 Japan #8 France #9 Brazil #10 Iran Pakistan wouldn't even be on the list, they're would probably be defeated reasonably quickly in case of a war with India, Especially considering the population disparity. It's honestly not even competitive. Russia is on a big downhill slope, and its been that way since the Collapse of the USSR. They face immense economic, geo-political, and geographic challenges, that will be nearly impossible to solve, especially considering Putin's approval ratings continue to fall. Germany should also 100% be on the list. it is the manufacturing & economic hub of the entirety of Europe, and the only real counterweight(aside from nato) to Russia.
2019-05-06 18:21
This list is just a big joke. Seriously?
2019-05-07 16:40
Idk I might just be retarded but that wasn't at all obvious? I've heard dumber things said on here that wasn't at all bait, like its literally impossible to know whats a joke on here anymore.
2019-05-07 16:56
YEP, you're IQ is under 85.
2019-05-07 17:04
I can deal with that men (((
2019-05-07 17:05
Dude your list is better than his lmao.
2019-06-22 07:24
Says someone’s iq is below 85 Uses “you’re” wrong Nt
2019-06-17 15:38
You got me. Sorry for not writing your.
2019-06-17 19:06
Dude I've looked at a couple of these lists online, and I couldn't even find one that puts Pakistan in the top 20.
2019-06-22 07:29
Most of the sites I've looked at put Pakistan on a 10-13 ranking. But most of these sites in my opinion are just full of shit. They base many of their opinions on irrelevant stuff like GDP. Since GDP doesn't matter but your spending and your budget for defense etc.
2019-06-24 14:03
India spends about 5x more than Pakistan on defense lmao. I wouldn't put India or Pakistan in the top 10 for defense.
2019-06-24 21:04
I was giving an example not a fact. Also to clarify on not finding Pakistan close to a top 10 list on the most powerful countries is because. I didn't mean the most powerful countries but the most powerful militaries. Since list on powerful countries look at GDP per capital etc. Which Pakistan doesn't have. Which is why it is putted around a 18-22 spot on the list. But if you check military list then Pakistan is around a 8-15 on the list. But they for some retarded reason base their list on irrelevant stuff when comparing militaries like GDP which as i said before is BS. You shouldn't look at GDP but spending and defense. Which is one of the many reasons. Which sure India spends way more. But you have to look at other factors and i mentioned reasons on why i put Pakistan over India.
2019-06-24 21:18
If we're basing it on spending, India spends 5x as much on their military as Pakistan does. Pakistan spends less than Iran on its military.
2019-06-24 21:13
2019-06-24 21:16
Lmao, yup no bias here. You literally just told me to base it on defense spending, I just point out India spends more on defense, you start raging on me. And your claim that Pakistan's military can surpass India's while spending a fifth of what they do doesn't seem believable to me. Since I've literally linked you sources saying that India's military is more technologically advanced with more manpower.
2019-06-24 21:24
I was giving an example. Most sites base their strength on GDP which is irrelevant. You should instead compared the budget. THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE. My point was that most of the sites include irrelevant stuff. India might spend more. But is lacking and has flaws. While Pakistan spends less but has way less flaws and problems.
2019-07-09 17:18
Holy shit, you're still responding after that tirade lmao. I'm seriously not sure what flaws you're referring to since I've already linked you sources saying India has better technologically and more manpower. The one legitimate flaw you pointed out was more coastline to protect, but there's something called radar that allows you to discern enemy movements, this isn't 1942. And please don't claim Pakistan has super advanced anti-radar stealth technology. It literally looks like you made this entire list just to put India above Pakistan.
2019-07-09 18:14
Ofc a pakistani will always say pak > india lmao ,he's my friend never mind
2019-07-09 18:22
The reason i put Pakistan over India is because: India has problems in it's resources like fuel and ammunition. Pakistan has more and better nukes that can be used in a tactical advantage. Also if you check the stats from the border clashes then by average one Pakistani solider kill 8 Indian ones. lol.
2019-07-17 16:31
I looked up one of your claims regarding oil. Where did you get the information Pakistan had larger oil reserves? And they ended up not finding their own oil when they searched for it very recently.
2019-07-17 18:53
2019-06-24 21:20
OH and just to clarify i'm not looking at the most powerful countries since that's where GDP and economy plays a huge role. But i'm looking at a military.
2019-06-24 14:25
Saudi : rich kids playing with expensive foreign toys . Israel would destroy them in a matter of hours.
2019-06-17 19:41
If you follow the news. Saudia arabia and Israel are allies.
2019-06-19 18:01
Yes by default, cause of comon enemy . I doubt they 'll be friendly forever and ever.
2019-06-19 18:25
They are also cowards, you forgot that
2019-07-09 17:36
Poland xkhao 
Germany #3 lol
2019-06-21 19:47
Poland lol
2019-06-21 19:49
Poland xkhao 
You know nothing about militaries, enough said.
2019-06-21 19:51
uh ok i didnt base that on military
2019-06-21 22:36
The topic was most powerful, not most militarily powerful. Germany is very powerful economically, his list is respectable.
2019-06-22 07:23
It's pretty accurate dude. A lot of Russia's power comes from it's military power. On economic power, Germany is one of the biggest in the world and it has a lot of influence in the EU. I would personally put Russia at #3 or #2, but Germany would be at #4 pretty easily.
2019-06-22 07:24
Poland xkhao 
This is a military list and Germany's military is pretty bad
2019-06-22 12:42
He was basing his list on overall power, so his list is respectable if you consider that.
2019-06-22 12:43
My bad for writing the topic wrong. I meant to say the strongest military that's what i wrote in the forum. My bad.
2019-07-09 17:19
UK > France
2019-05-06 18:21
Uk is falling apart as we speak men))
2019-05-06 18:25
Military isn't
2019-05-06 18:28
Yeah, but theres a non-zero chance that the UK itself won't exist by 2020, sooo, pretty sure that doesn't matter.
2019-05-06 18:37
2019-05-06 22:50
Israel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US
2019-05-07 16:49
2019-06-17 00:38
1.USA 2.Russia 3.China 4.Finland 5.India 6.Pakistan 7.France 8.UK 9.Israel 10.Japan
2019-05-07 17:01
2019-05-08 17:56
France Ruben_H 
2019-06-17 00:31
2019-06-18 23:49
India Noobdian1 
-Finland and it's good
2019-06-22 07:21
Lmao Maybe if Nokia managed to stay relevant.
2019-06-22 07:30
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
2019-06-23 02:05
Where is Israel on your list?
2019-05-08 15:47
Israel isn't strong enough.
2019-05-11 16:59
Japan?!? Is this a joke?
2019-05-11 17:06
If anything they should be higher up the list, 3rd largest economy is the world, and a 40+ billion dollar military budget.
2019-06-22 07:31
Sweden iiceiice 
1.usa 2.china/russia 3.russia/china 4.india 5.france i believe in the next 20-50 years china will be number 1 Superpower Nation and rest of asia .
2019-06-17 00:29
Yea but not right now at least.
2019-06-19 21:47
Turkey dalinnn 
turkey is the 2nd lare army in the nato but yet you still put it 10# LOL
2019-06-17 00:31
Do you really think you do anything with a large army if countries are shooting nukes/etc at you?
2019-06-17 00:40
Turkey dalinnn 
do you really think every country is gonna use nuclair weapons? i dont think so
2019-06-17 00:40
African Union hdlmb 
turkey numba one casualities
2019-06-17 00:41
Yea lol he said it for me.
2019-06-17 00:38
Portugal nakbarone 
Portugal #1 If it's to protect motherland
2019-06-17 00:42
First get weapons.
2019-06-17 12:25
Portugal nakbarone 
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, fella
2019-06-17 14:20
So your saying that Portugal has weapons? LMAO
2019-06-17 15:31
Portugal nakbarone 
You're saying we don't?
2019-06-17 23:09
2019-06-18 17:15
Dominican Republic SantoDomingo 
2. China
2019-06-17 03:25
Not yet.
2019-06-17 12:26
Germany #1
2019-06-17 15:36
2019-06-17 19:18
Konungariket Sverige
2019-06-17 19:23
Kungariket som är övertaget :(
2019-06-17 19:27
Russia and China > USA for$ure
2019-06-17 15:41
This is individual and America is better by stats.
2019-06-17 19:18
Israel Ystyg 
Israel is much stronger than Turkey
2019-06-17 15:45
Even Istanbul is more crowded than whole Israel. Tf are you talking about? And yes population DOES matter when all of your soldiers start to die after a while.
2019-06-17 16:10
lol israel.
2019-06-17 19:17
Israel Ystyg 
Typical swedish hater
2019-06-17 19:20
Please tell me why Israel is stronger than Turkey and i'll answer you.
2019-06-17 19:27
Imo military strength doesn't mean much without economic power and rich natural resources. How important the criterions are: 45% Military Power (technology, quality of personnel etc.) 40% Economic Power and 15% Population. So i'd list, respectively: USA, Russia, China, Japan, UK, France, Germany, SK, Brazil, Indonesia. I just laugh with my ass at those who put Israel, Iran, Pakistan etc. in the list. These countries would be knocked out and dying off hunger at the end of the first year of a possible war.
2019-06-17 16:08
First of all, if countries like Iran, Israel, Pakistan etc. Would die by starvation and struggle economically then why did you put Brazil and Indonesia in your list? Specially Brazil where poverty is way way bigger than in countries like Israel and Pakistan. Second of all natural resources doesn't mean a shit just the economy. Since if natural resources were important than China should not be in your list since everything is based on the industry. Population doesn't matter since it comes in with the category of economy. Since you don't look at the population. But how much you can spend with your economy. Also if you talk about military then it's fit for war. Meaning how many in the country is fit for fighting in a war. Also where all of your arguments just falls apart. Military power is the quality here. Having all the modernized and great weapons along with nuclear weapons will change everything. If nuclear weapons didn't really matter or other weapons and technology then why for example are countries so defensive against North Korea? Having the weapons changes everything both defensively and offensively.
2019-06-17 19:27
Brazil Smartzilian 
"Specially Brazil where poverty is way way bigger than in countries like Israel and Pakistan." You're not completely right here. Brazil is the ninth GDP in the world, ahead of Canada and Russia, for instance. Talking about per capita, it's the 75rd - above Pakistan.
2019-06-19 16:54
I gave an example. GDP may be higher compared to most countries. But more people live in poverty in Brazil compared to other countries. So starvation is a bigger threat. And by all respect Brazil doesn't really have weapons, missiles and nuclear weapons that is the real deal. Specially in South America where active personal shouldn't matter. Why? Because Brazil is isolated by other countries in South America that lives in poverty. If they ever would have a war with let's say Israel and Pakistan like mentioned before. They could just easily been nuked without having a response.
2019-06-19 17:50
Brazil is studying producing nuclear weapons, it's just a matter of time. Btw in a defense situation, south american armies would be hard to beat because I don't see top armies having experience in forests, may have a chance at the coast but Brazil have a good navy too.
2019-06-24 16:33
Yeah but i'm talking about right now. Either way i don't see why really Brazil would need nukes. Since they don't really have enemies and enemies that you need nuclear weapons to stop. Also you can't be sure. Just look at Iran has almost had nukes but has been stopped so many times.
2019-06-24 20:30
Nobody "needs" nukes, it's a game of intimidation and display of firepower. Brazil may not have a defined enemy but it adds strength to play along with the allies .
2019-06-24 20:47
Denmark Gryde 
very bad list
2019-06-17 19:43
Tell me why?
2019-06-18 17:16
Denmark Gryde 
pakistan, south korea and turkey.
2019-06-18 17:18
South korea wasn't in my list. What's wrong with Pakistan and Turkey?
2019-06-18 23:28
Denmark Gryde 
2019-06-19 14:25
Ehm, can you explain why?
2019-06-19 17:51
Denmark Gryde 
their militaries are underdeveloped
2019-06-19 19:26
Nice argument and knowledge.
2019-06-20 23:33
2019-06-21 00:11
Denmark Gryde 
2019-06-21 00:29
Denmark Gryde 
nice counter-argument buddy
2019-06-21 00:29
Please saying that South Korea, Turkey and Pakistan has a underdeveloped military shows how little knowledge you have and also how retarded you are.
2019-06-21 17:09
Denmark Gryde 
didn't say that south korea had an underdeveloped military, only turkey and pakistan
2019-06-21 20:03
Doesn't change the fact.
2019-06-21 20:19
Denmark Gryde 
it does. sk is way more technologically developed than turkey and Pakistan
2019-06-21 20:32
South Korea is a first world country with a strong, modern military, so I think they're fine at low top 10. Turkey and Pakistan should be further down the list.
2019-06-22 07:35
I wonder if The USA at war against the 9 others top 10 coutries would win. Probably :(
2019-06-17 19:47
Nah lol they can't even defeat Afghanistan and the taliban.
2019-06-18 17:17
Faroe Islands Josuke 
because it was just a proxy war lmao
2019-06-18 23:42
2019-06-19 17:25
First 3 I agree but rest lol
2019-06-17 21:21
Tell me why?
2019-06-18 17:17
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
India should be in top5
2019-06-17 22:03
2019-06-18 17:17
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
They have the highest available manpower compared to France, the UK and Pakistan. They have most fit-for-service to compared to those I mentioned earlier. They have estimated 3,462,500 military personnel, active 1,362,500 and reserve 2,100,000. None of those others has such high numbers. Most aircraft, most combat tanks, most naval assets.
2019-06-18 17:42
You do indeed do a lot with all those people if countries are shooting misslies, chemical or bio weapons at you, man personel heavy armies are only good if you plan to fight third World countries
2019-06-18 17:50
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
Who are controlling those weapons? Those missiles, chemical weapons or bioweapons? Do they just magically fly where they are supposed to? What happens after you have bombed the other country and you have no ground forces?
2019-06-18 18:22
Well India does have a lot of forces. But their are downsides. First of all the Indian population is way to high. So it protecting all of it's countries population is way harder than it is for example like the UK, France and Pakistan like you mentioned. Second of all sure it does have many forces but you have to remember that India is a way larger country then Pakistan, UK and France. Meaning it has way more land to cover which makes it more stretched and is bad. Specially since 2 of their neighbors (Pakistan and China) dislike them and in case of a war they would surely be attached by them. Now they may have more combat tanks, aircraft etc. But most of their tech is outdated and not modern. Remember that quantity doesn't equal quality. So most of their weapons are not going to stand a chance against other weapons that other countries have. Now Pakistan, UK, France has a way bigger advantage then India. The reason being they have more weapons, better weapons and missiles and nuclear weapons. Which can be used in your advantage tactically. Let's just say that Pakistan would launch a missile attach to India. They could potentially nuke whatever they want. From military basis to industries and just high populated places. Which could lead India injured and big problems and then just invade them and so on. The're are so many possibilities. Also India struggles a lot with it's resources like fuel and ammunition.
2019-06-18 23:38
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
And you know this how? Most nations hide the real number of their nuclear and bioweapons for a good reason. They bought weapons from Russia a couple of months ago, were the biggest purchaser of Israeli weapons in 2017 and buys arms from the U.S regularly. So, how is their tech out-dated? Also, for sure they know how to defend their borders that same logic applies to China, Russia and the U.S as well, they are so big. Also, there are always and always will be civilians suffering, everyone knows that the army can't protect every single person. India can easily launch missile attack to Pakistan if they feel so.
2019-06-19 16:39
Russia. Putin can turn USA into nuclear ash men. )))))
2019-06-18 17:45
Oh look, what would this thread be without our pro russian guy being fanboy of his favorite third World shithole
2019-06-18 17:55
UA and Finns so mad. you say 1 thing about Russia and 100 appear out of nowhere. 😎😎😎
2019-06-18 17:59
America can also turn Russia into ash :P
2019-06-18 23:39 This mofo is a chinese troll in fact. He can't even voice any kind of criticism against his current government. Challenge him on this everytime. This is what he think of us. I drove him mad in the past and he said as well we would all die in a forecoming war etc.
2019-06-18 21:34
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2019-06-19 00:37
Well i get his points tho. But the first thing he said was just lol.
2019-06-19 17:27
Faroe Islands Josuke 
UK >>>>
2019-06-18 23:42
Denmark kPappy^_^ 
Where's Greenland and Jamaica?
2019-06-18 23:44
2019-06-19 17:27
Japan, man. Those asians can build big-faking mechas or battle robots or some kinda weird shit
2019-06-18 23:52
lol They don't even have rights to have military weapons.
2019-06-19 17:28
That was a joke man
2019-06-19 18:55
And they do have forces of self-defense
2019-06-19 18:56
These are based on irrelevant stuff like active personal which most sites base their military strength on. Also the list includes GDP and is just bad lol.
2019-06-19 17:29
Japan hirohito 
+1, it actually claims that Poland has 105k troops while we actually have around 30k that have ever hold a weapon and maybe 5k of decently trained
2019-06-19 17:33
Exactly, most sites base stuff on irrelevant stuff. Troops are irrelevant when you can fire missiles at each other from such long distances.
2019-06-19 17:43
India Noobdian1 
So you know better than sites,??
2019-06-22 07:19
Sites base many of their stuff on irrelevant stuff like GDP. GDP doesn't matter while budget for defense and spending does. So yea some of the stuff they show are just irrelevant. Sometimes they'll just base their opinion on every statistic about the country possible.
2019-06-24 14:01
Japan hirohito 
4. israel due to american philosemitism unfortunately
2019-06-19 17:28
Well, i compare most of the countries individually excluding tactics. But i don't see the US doing something if all the Arabs, Iranians and Pakistanis attach Israel.
2019-06-19 17:44
Japan hirohito 
imho they would intervene almost for sure, the loss of israel for usa equals to the lose of their influence in the arabian oil market
2019-06-19 17:51
Thinking more of it. I do agree that the US would intervene. But i can't see them stopping a attach specially if it's an surprise attach. Also the US can get many more and better allies than Israel.
2019-06-19 21:38
Well they do have huge impact. But most countries i compare are individually. Also relations can change and i don't see Israel getting help if the Arabs, Iranians and Pakistanis attach them.
2019-06-19 18:05
China > Russia
2019-06-19 17:28
Denmark EyesWallow 
2019-06-19 17:29
Not yet but in the future sure.
2019-06-19 17:44
Denmark EyesWallow 
UK over france
2019-06-19 17:29
If you check the facts France is better than the UK.
2019-06-19 17:44
Georgia Broozman 
Nazi Germany, Israel, USSR
2019-06-19 17:29
I aM gEOrGiAn AnD 20% oF mY CoUnTry Is OcCupieD bY ruSsIa
2019-06-19 17:36
Georgia Broozman 
2019-06-19 17:38
LOL Nice JOKE tho. Seriously Nazi germany and Israel.
2019-06-19 17:45
Georgia Broozman 
Israel won all wars against arabs, they've strong army. And Nazi Germany took whole europe xD
2019-06-19 17:50
Yea but you do realize that was before?
2019-06-19 17:52
Ur country is russia but has american state name
2019-06-19 18:21
Georgia Broozman 
nt, men)))
2019-06-19 19:30
USSR fucked up nazi
2019-06-23 13:20
I fully understand the logic behind putting Pakistan in 6 but I also think that such reasons matter, but not that much. Additionally, where is the god damn Germany bruh :P
2019-06-19 17:41
I don't fully understand. The things and reasons i put Pakistan on 6. Was because the heave and important stuff. Well i decided to go with Turkey over Germany. Since they have better missiles ground and air force if i'm not wrong.
2019-06-19 18:07
India Noobdian1 
What heave
2019-06-22 07:18
United Kingdom Upt0n 
uk doesnt need an amazing military any more tbf. More about influence and allies
2019-06-19 17:41
First of all relations and a countries influence can all change. All countries will be for themself if in a war. Just imagine France getting a bad leader that is about to invade the UK. They surely will get help from other countries. But will still have to defend itself.
2019-06-19 18:10
United Kingdom Upt0n 
ofc they wouldnt lol who would help france if they decided to try and start war with us ?
2019-06-19 19:17
I'm talking about the UK
2019-06-24 21:00
add Egypt and Saudi Arabia
2019-06-19 17:59
Saudi Arabia should definitely not be in a list. They sure have the money. But barely know how to use their weapons. Why do you think they have over soldiers from Pakistan working the're? Saudi arabia just read a bit and you'll say no. Egypt is in a crisis and their are countries like Germany and Israel that have a better military.
2019-06-19 18:17
Turkey is in bigger crisis than Egypt. Germany has just army in papers.
2019-06-19 18:23
Turkey's military is still better than Egypt. Check the numbers.
2019-06-19 21:39
Israel should be in the top 10, replacing Turkey imo.
2019-06-19 18:26
Well excluding nuclear weapons. Turkey has an upper hand in everything.
2019-06-19 21:40
Oh hell noooo
2019-06-20 08:33
Uhm yes. Check the stats :P
2019-06-20 23:24
Iran should in that list
2019-06-19 19:24
Definitely not.
2019-06-19 21:40
ali khamenei has power to make millions of muslims suicide bomb their own child against you. doubt any western leader has such power
2019-06-19 21:57
The only few that do are brainwashed extremist.
2019-06-20 23:01
hummm in term of army usa and china or even india but in terms of what country don't give a fuck about humanity china can win easy france don't dream not even top 10 now
2019-06-19 21:41
2019-06-19 21:48
china number one !! they eat dogs you think they give a fuck about humanity ? when you eat dog you can eat babies
2019-06-19 21:58
omg dog = baby
2019-06-20 02:53
LMAO You do understand they have to invade a country for them to take their babies?
2019-06-20 23:02
chineses are everywhereeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
2019-06-23 12:19
what's wrong with eating dogs?
2019-06-23 04:26
Ireland #1
2019-06-19 21:47
2019-06-19 21:48
Agree with your list
2019-06-20 01:27
Thanks men.
2019-06-20 23:02
-turkey +israel Otherwise ok
2019-06-20 08:57
i disagree on that point. Sure Israel has nukes but Turkey also got missiles. Also since Turkey and Israel are really close to each other. Troops, tanks etc will matter because of an both of them try to invade each other. So if you check the stats on a navy, ground and air force. Turkey is ahead.
2019-06-20 23:04
United States Troglxdyte 
Put France at the bottom. They'd just surrender in any war anyway.
2019-06-20 23:06
France J0riS 
0iq americans strike again LUL
2019-06-20 23:17
United States Troglxdyte 
Stfu and wave your dumbass little white flag you fucking pussy ass loser
2019-06-20 23:20
France J0riS 
You're braindead LUL
2019-06-20 23:21
United States Troglxdyte 
Your country is a joke that's only known for surrendering in a war. I have never even see a baguette irl
2019-06-20 23:22
France J0riS 
I have a little question Do you like the Statue of liberty ?
2019-06-20 23:24
United States Troglxdyte 
Did you know 90% of Americans don't know that it was a gift from France? Nobody cares about your little ass country
2019-06-20 23:26
France J0riS 
Our two countries are good allies since we helped you during your independence and you helped us for ww1 and 2. Only retards with 2 digit iq like you don't care. Bye
2019-06-20 23:27
AT LEAST 95% of Americans like France. And most people know the Statue of Liberty was a gift from France and we know France helped us win our independence.
2019-06-22 07:39
France J0riS 
Dont worry I know that the majority of americans are Nice people and I still believe it thanks to people like you <3
2019-06-22 13:14
+1 <3
2019-06-22 13:14
Canada iluvpizza 
North Korea ?
2019-06-20 23:21
United States Troglxdyte 
You shouldn't even be allowed to talk about the power of different countries, white flagger.
2019-06-20 23:24
Canada iluvpizza 
2019-06-20 23:25
You do realize that "surrendering" is a while ago :P
2019-06-20 23:26
Lol nah you clearly don't know much about a military and just watch the news.
2019-06-20 23:25
Canada iluvpizza 
I don't give a fuck about this lmao just asking
2019-06-20 23:26
My bad for that shit response. North Korea has many working in their military and also nukes. But it's not up their with the strongest military's. If you just compare a country that is up with the strongest like let's say India and North Korea, you'll see that India has the upper hand in almost everything.
2019-06-20 23:34
Canada iluvpizza 
okay ;) ty
2019-06-20 23:33
Anytime bro <3
2019-06-20 23:34
Brazil fuNNa 
2019-06-20 23:22
You can see that on the list if you didn't know.
2019-06-20 23:24
Brazil fuNNa 
i'm just here to confirm
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France J0riS 
You mean The 52nd state ?
2019-06-20 23:43
what's 51?
2019-06-20 23:47
France J0riS 
2019-06-20 23:49
2019-06-20 23:49
France J0riS 
That was just banter xd
2019-06-20 23:50
2019-06-21 19:03
No Germany lmao
2019-06-21 00:24
I just realized Germany isn't even on the list. Lmao, this list is bad.
2019-06-22 07:39
Germany is rightfully not on this list. As of 2017 only 30-70% of all german weapons systems are usable including 132 of 167 Leopard2, 12 of 27 KHS Tiger, 28 of 74 Tornados, 41 of 79 Eurofighters and 2 of 4 U-Boot 212 A. Lately the situation got even worse up until the point where 0 german submarines were usable. And that is not even including the recruitment problems of the german military at the moment.
2019-06-22 08:26
Power should also factor in economic power, it doesn't just say military power. I think Germany makes top 10 if we factor in economic power and influence.
2019-06-22 08:54
yeah, i didn't read this right, my bad
2019-06-22 09:01
Maybe sweden, I saw a dude in uniform the other day edit: nvm it was in the gay bar
2019-06-21 00:32
2019-06-21 19:04
Germany 1112Leon 
1. North Korea
2019-06-21 00:39
2019-06-21 19:04
Wheres germany?
2019-06-21 00:43
Not in the list and shouldn't be.
2019-06-21 19:04
India Noobdian1 
It's in every other list except yours XD
2019-06-22 07:17
what a counter argument, truly a fucking genius right here fellas
2019-07-09 17:27
nt afghanistan
2019-07-09 17:42
United States jay_320 
The US is the only country in the world that can truly project power on the world stage. Russia which people will bring up can project power in the Pacific and some of Eastern Europe. China can kind of project power in the South China Sea and Taiwan. The US could fight a multi-pronged war all across their world. And that's because US military planners learned in Korea just how important carriers were. THey knew it in WW2 but someone thought that a single plane with a bomb was going to be the answer. A carrier with 65 F-35's is where true power projection comes from. Especially when flanked by destroyers, attack submarines and the best technology in the world. Combined with a volunteer force that wants to be there. And if for some reason that doesn't work 18 Ohio Class submarines invisibly patrol the ocean. Each one is capable of destroying the planet several times over. The American Military is actually fucking terrifying. I mean we are not even taking into account the fact that the best special forces units also play on that team and are better practiced then anyone else from the continued war on terror. Russia has some impressive assets. The S-400 could be a deterrent to F-22s or F-35s. Maybe. We don't really know yet. The S-500 has an even better chance. But half of their shit doesn't work and the one aircraft carrier they own is a floating embarrassment still running on diesel engines.
2019-06-21 00:51
2019-06-21 17:52
nt indiana
2019-06-21 19:06
Nt chinese puppet
2019-06-21 19:32
2019-06-21 19:35
Triggered kid back behind moms ass lol,and talking about wars xdddddddd Nt porkistan
2019-06-21 19:38 Your country is a shithole and makes Pakistan look like a paradise lol.
2019-06-21 19:40
Lmao +1111
2019-06-21 19:48
2019-06-21 19:06
United States jay_320 
I wish. It's a big waste of money. But it's real.
2019-06-21 19:07
In my opinion. It's a real waste of money. I mean you can already blow up the whole planet and you already have so many weapons and so many powerful ones that the're is no reason for buying more. The US should focus on other things. I mean common you have school shootings and people living poverty and gangs in Chicago and Detroit. Try getting a better education and focus on what's happening in your country and stop getting involved in the conflicts in the middle east.
2019-06-21 19:16
United States jay_320 
It's a byproduct of the Cold War that never went away. Just spiraled out of control. I mean fifth generation fighter jets are perfect examples of this. The United States has deployed two. Even Europe and Russia are years away from actually developing one. Russia's stealth fighter literally has fucking rivets it's actually kind of hilarious. They simply don't have the machining tools to build one even if they had the expertise. Anyway the reason I bring these up is just about every senator and state representative got their grubby little paws on these defense programs and because of that these planes are made from parts from almost every state in the Union. In a sense it's a big jobs program. I don't know how you'd even start to dismantle it if a president had the political capital to actually try and do so.
2019-06-21 19:35
Doesn't change the fact that it's a waste of money.
2019-06-21 19:38
United States jay_320 
Right but the world is more nuanced then things being a waste of money or not.
2019-06-21 19:38
6.Pakistan ??
2019-06-21 12:23
Try reading about the country. It's more then what western media make it out to be. Like being ISIS and the Taliban combined and all that stuff is BS.
2019-06-21 19:07
and how do you know that if you are not from pakistan?
2019-06-22 08:23
BECAUSE I'M BORN IN FUCKING SWEDEN. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT FOR A QUESTION. Also if someone ever says something or knows something about Pakistan. They are immediately Pakistani. Like please Indians always cry that Pakistanis want war. But their the one always spreading shit and attacking them.
2019-06-24 14:05
2019-06-24 16:10
ok fakeflagger.
2019-06-24 17:25
2019-06-21 12:26
2019-06-21 17:52
LOL i think he is confused with GDP or smth.
2019-06-21 19:07
I actually looked it up and it said this.
2019-06-22 08:54
wtf bro
2019-06-22 07:27
2019-06-22 09:11
Europe N3sHie1k 
1. Russia
2019-06-21 12:31
2019-06-21 19:08
Europe N3sHie1k 
U w0t m8
2019-06-21 19:57
If Germany wanted to they could get 2nd biggest army easily just need to shift their car production into military production and boom
2019-06-21 12:33
Yea and the money?
2019-06-21 19:08
Military =/= Powerful
2019-06-21 12:34
Ok either you are delusional or just crazy. I don't know in what mindset would you have to be to put Pakistan in there. I will make a real list. 1. USA 2. China 3. Russia 4. Saudi Arabia 5. India 6. UK 7. France 8. Japan 9. Germany 10. Turkey
2019-06-21 17:35
LOL Pakistan should be on the list. Nukes and missiles Many personal Many tanks, aircrafts and big NAVY for a country with a small coastline. F-16 and modern aircrafts. Modern ground force One of the best Special forces in the world. One of the most well trained militaries. Also putting Saudi arabia shows that you have no knowledge. You do know that Saudi arabia military is powered by Pakistani soldiers? They have the money, bugdet and weapons. But don't even know how to use it.
2019-06-21 19:10
You don,t have any knowledge. Its all about budget Pakistans military is outdated to compared the ones on the list. You clearly also are clueless if you think manpower in modern war means anything. You can easily fuck whole army with missiles and drones. Saudi-Arabia buys their weapons from USA which has the best technology right now. Also F16 is nothing to compared F-35 or F-22 which would dominate air. Also you mentioned they have well trained military and one of the best special force let me laugh at you. Please give me source behind that claim. Saudi-arabias Navy is much better they also have 50+ aircrafts carriers compared to Pakistans 12. Saudi-Arabias budget is almost 7 times more so keep pushing your propaganda. Then lets get to airforce Pakistan has 85 f-16 and rest are outdated as fuck. Saudi-Arabias airforce on the other hand is pretty modern. They have 53 Eurofighter Typhoons which at own would fuck Pakistans whole airforce. Then they have 87 of F-15 Strike-Eagles and 61 of normal f-15 eagles. So next time when you play expert on military please check your facts.
2019-06-21 19:39
Saudi-arabias Navy is much better they also have 50+ aircrafts carriers compared to Pakistans 12. Lmao I m done with hltv experts ,can't argue more Pakistan is much stronger than you think ,saudi is nothing In front of pakistan
2019-06-21 19:59
Alright thats great counter argument keep smelling shit in india.
2019-06-21 20:00
+1 hltv expert thanks
2019-06-21 20:02
I gave you straight up facts and you have gave me 0. You must be on god tier at debating.
2019-06-21 20:03
2019-06-21 20:12
Yep my bad I ment aircrfats but was googling same time about aircraft carriers and accidnetally wrote wrong. Anyway you are yet to prove me wrong on Pakistan being worse than Saudi-Arabia.
2019-06-21 20:17
Answer written by real expert (not me) The balance of military power favors Pakistan, if you look at each country’s forces in being and military readiness. The Royal Saudi Air Force, after it completes its buy of F-15 Strike Eagles and gets more Typhoons, would be a possible exception. if Saudi-Pakistani nuclear sharing proceeds to the point where Pakistani nuclear devices remained mated to Saudi missiles (some of the Kingdom’s 538 solid-fueled, mobile CSS-5s, particularly), then It’s possible to conceive of all sorts of cases favoring either country. While Saudi Arabia has had more money for military hardware, Pakistan arguably has a greater capacity to place nuclear weapons on targets in Saudi Arabia than vice versa, as well as greater conventional forces. Pakistan reportedly also has or is pursuing a second-strike nuclear capacity based on naval cruise missiles which would allow them to retaliate effectively against a first nuclear strike. Though the quality of their weapon systems may lag the Saudis’ in some respects, Pakistan has quantity going for them: an all-volunteer army of 550,000 active troops and 500,000 reserves, opposed to the Saudi Army’s 300,000 troops, 200,000-man national guard independent of the Ministry of Defense and loyal to the monarchy and 25,000 tribal levies, so that Pakistan at full mobilization can field two soldiers for every Saudi under arms, possibly with better unity of command; an ocean-going navy consisting of 71 warships which include submarines, helicopter carriers, destroyers, frigates, amphibious assault ships, patrol ships, mine-countermeasures, and miscellaneous vessels. manned by 36,000 active duty personnel compared to the Royal Saudi Navy’s 11 main combatant warships and fifty or so coastal patrol boats, plus assorted support and landing craft manned by 60,000, divided into Eastern and Western fleets; The Royal Saudi Air Force is the possible exception in this picture as far as aircraft are concerned; they have 300 combat aircraft - Typhoons, Tornado IDS, F-15 Eagles and F-15E Strike Eagles. with 88 more F-15E Strike Eagles on order and an option to buy 72 more Typhoons. The Pakistanis’ continual armed tension with India probably requires them to have a higher readiness level across the board than the Saudis maintain. Better training, proficiency, naval type mix and operational readiness probably offset Saudi advantages in military hardware.
2019-06-21 20:43
Yeah and when I google "top 10 strongest military countries" there pops up lists that are made by "real experts" and there is always Saudi-Arabia but can't find Pakistan.
2019-06-21 22:04
Alright thats great counter argument keep smelling shit in Finland. Well i do not have to make an response on why Pakistan is stronger but you do know that the're are Pakistani workers in Saudi Arabia and Pakistanis working for the Saudi military? Saudi Arabia sure has money but doesn't even know how to use their weapons. Also many of the list you search up write about irrelevant stuff like GDP when comparing military that is completely irrelevant.
2019-06-25 21:27
Firstly I can't smell shit in Finland because we don't shit on streets unlike Indians do. Then you do need to make response why Pakistan is stronger when you make claim like that. You do know that debates work like you need to be able to back your claims? And who says Saudi-Arabia doesn't know how to use their money please give me source once again behind that claim. And yes there are some Pakistanis on Saudi-Arabias airforce but they are now Saudi-Arabias citizens too and propably are more than happy to live there since they didn't go back to Pakistan. So who says they would turn against their own country?
2019-06-25 22:19
Answer written by real expert (not me) The balance of military power favors Pakistan, if you look at each country’s forces in being and military readiness. The Royal Saudi Air Force, after it completes its buy of F-15 Strike Eagles and gets more Typhoons, would be a possible exception. if Saudi-Pakistani nuclear sharing proceeds to the point where Pakistani nuclear devices remained mated to Saudi missiles (some of the Kingdom’s 538 solid-fueled, mobile CSS-5s, particularly), then It’s possible to conceive of all sorts of cases favoring either country. While Saudi Arabia has had more money for military hardware, Pakistan arguably has a greater capacity to place nuclear weapons on targets in Saudi Arabia than vice versa, as well as greater conventional forces. Pakistan reportedly also has or is pursuing a second-strike nuclear capacity based on naval cruise missiles which would allow them to retaliate effectively against a first nuclear strike. Though the quality of their weapon systems may lag the Saudis’ in some respects, Pakistan has quantity going for them: an all-volunteer army of 550,000 active troops and 500,000 reserves, opposed to the Saudi Army’s 300,000 troops, 200,000-man national guard independent of the Ministry of Defense and loyal to the monarchy and 25,000 tribal levies, so that Pakistan at full mobilization can field two soldiers for every Saudi under arms, possibly with better unity of command; an ocean-going navy consisting of 71 warships which include submarines, helicopter carriers, destroyers, frigates, amphibious assault ships, patrol ships, mine-countermeasures, and miscellaneous vessels. manned by 36,000 active duty personnel compared to the Royal Saudi Navy’s 11 main combatant warships and fifty or so coastal patrol boats, plus assorted support and landing craft manned by 60,000, divided into Eastern and Western fleets; The Royal Saudi Air Force is the possible exception in this picture as far as aircraft are concerned; they have 300 combat aircraft - Typhoons, Tornado IDS, F-15 Eagles and F-15E Strike Eagles. with 88 more F-15E Strike Eagles on order and an option to buy 72 more Typhoons. The Pakistanis’ continual armed tension with India probably requires them to have a higher readiness level across the board than the Saudis maintain. Better training, proficiency, naval type mix and operational readiness probably offset Saudi advantages in military hardware. THERE YOU GO
2019-06-27 23:15
2019-06-28 18:08
#695 I did respond to that.
2019-06-28 20:49
And I responded to that. You see that was literally my sepond to same what you wrote since he wrote it first #490
2019-06-29 16:28
2019-06-30 20:51
Was using phone and couldnt see what I was writing. What I ment to say is you literally went backwards to the same argument that was already made and responded. So I dont know what else you want me to say about that.
2019-07-01 01:12
1. US 2. China - - 3.Russia 4.India Rest irrelevant
2019-06-21 17:52
China leroysane_19 
2019-06-21 18:19
If you seriously read about the arguments of India being stronger than Pakistan you would know more. Also check the numbers France and UK has a better military and China doesn't yet have a stronger military than Russia.
2019-06-21 19:12
Military is just part of nation power, and China have far better economic, and have tremendous amount of labour force
2019-06-21 19:57
Yea but countries like Norway that have so much money. Don't invest a thing in their military. So that doesn't make them powerful or as powerful as other countries so that argument is not really strong.
2019-06-21 20:18
That argument is strong, Cuz China true weaponry is still mysterious, And add to that incredible powerful economy which means they could fight in a very long war and enormous population = Russia gets raped by China
2019-06-21 20:28
This thread is about the strongest military which makes the rest irrelevant. But i do apologize on not being clear on the forum title.
2019-06-25 21:28
India Noobdian1 
He's right though
2019-06-22 07:11
easy | 
Asia B2o 
2019-06-21 17:53
Israel OK
2019-06-21 19:12
sergej | 
Finland AxuZD 
Have you ever heard of Iron Dome system. Israel can't even basically be attacked with missiles. Also they have the most advanced technology because theyre allies with USA.
2019-06-23 11:05
Ukraine TheVodkaGuy 
2019-06-21 18:14
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russia number 1
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2019-06-21 19:38
1) China 2) USA 3) Russia 4) Israel 5) Germany 6) UK 7) France 8) Rest of Europe. 9) Anyone else.
2019-06-21 19:38
2019-06-21 19:38
17 years old swedish leftist "centrist" social democrat kid spotted.
2019-06-21 19:39
Nah i'm actually right but sure lol. I'm honestly not going to answer that shit list and you not having common sense.
2019-06-21 19:41
probably not
2019-06-21 22:06
2019-06-21 19:54
India Noobdian1 
Lmao Pakistani triggered
2019-06-22 07:15
2019-06-24 14:28
India Noobdian1 
That's actually Hindustan But okay
2019-06-24 16:01
2019-07-09 17:21
India Noobdian1 
That made 0 sense
2019-07-10 06:59
It wasn't meant to Sherlock.
2019-07-17 16:32
India Noobdian1 
Very fast reply
2019-07-17 17:00
ok pakistani
2019-06-24 17:28
Bulgaria goshyy 
Russia is stronger army wise but USA has the dough, they have the money, money wins wars.. You get what I mean?
2019-06-21 19:52
United States Fin4life 
according to some asshat here brasil will be the biggest power in 10 years....LMFBAO.....
2019-06-22 00:11
I mean they have lots of trees so they can make a lot of bows
2019-07-09 17:42
stopped at 2. Dev2ce
2019-06-22 07:49
Wrong forum kid.
2019-07-09 17:21
FRANCE? lol. We could send American pitbulls and the Chicago ghetto people to France and they would surrender in a few weeks.
2019-06-22 08:30
2019-06-23 00:01
Switzerland Indeon 
I think china should be at place no. 2 just because of the number of people living there.
2019-06-22 13:00
That was the shittiest thing iv'e heard this year.
2019-07-09 17:22
Bro you still on this thread ,from ind vs pak to ind vs nz today lol
2019-07-09 17:23
Bro you still on this thread ,from ind vs pak to ind vs nz today lol
2019-07-09 17:26
Aur bhai kaisa hai , band kar ye ind vs pak aur world cup enjoy kar :)))))) rEMEMBER tHIs COMment MeNs
2019-07-09 17:27
Yes men :)))))) currently this shit rain is stopping a win against nz
2019-07-09 17:29
i see men i see men. Hope India lose cuz they wanted England in front of Pakistan. :(
2019-07-09 17:42
2019-07-17 16:27
1. KKona 2. cyka 3. china 4. india 5. baguette 6. anime 7. starcraft 8. uk 9. kebab 10. hitler
2019-06-23 00:03
2019-06-24 14:27
You should have finished your list after first 3 positions because rest of your list is a joke.
2019-06-23 04:18
Pakistan xD
2019-06-23 13:12
Flag checks out. Thinks Muslim hater Please do some research skinny fag.
2019-06-24 14:27
2019-06-23 13:22
Dima | 
Russia L0sk^^ 
Yeah, she is first xd
2019-06-24 01:37
Russian military tech suck compared to west. Truth.
2019-06-24 12:13
Who cares about that when you can just nuke the planet.
2019-06-24 14:27
China numba 1
2019-06-24 14:02
2019-06-24 14:26
frozen | 
France HYPNO5 
yeah its probably something like that
2019-06-24 16:07
Like what?
2019-06-24 16:15
2019-06-24 19:17
I think you misunderstood the forum. I was talking about the most powerful countries.
2019-06-24 21:05
Yes, that is Poland
2019-06-24 21:29
2019-06-24 22:03
World doh 
1. Israel 2. USA 3. Russia / China
2019-06-24 20:30
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World doh 
99999999. sweden
2019-06-25 05:40
2019-06-25 21:17
Pakistan 6th lmao . Nt fakeflagger
2019-06-24 20:56
Pakistan 6th lmao . Nt fakeflagger
2019-06-24 20:55
Pakistani bhai hai apna wo
2019-06-24 20:58
2019-06-24 21:04
Are bhai bhai bhai
2019-06-24 21:06
Are brother brother brother. WHAT THE FUCK
2019-06-24 21:12
Kitni jyada acting karta hai ye
2019-06-24 21:10
Is chodu ko subah bhi bola ,ki chhod ye ind pak bakchodi lekin manta hi nahi lol
2019-06-24 21:12
Ye chutiya hai
2019-06-24 21:23
This is a international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in other languages will be deleted.
2019-06-24 21:13
Just to tell you. You wrote that twice.
2019-06-24 21:04
1. USA 2. China 3. Russia 4-6 Iran, Turkey, Israel 7-8 North-Korea, South-Korea 9-10 Pakistan, India
2019-06-24 21:18
Turkey? We aren‘t powerful that much. Our eco. and edu. system suck.
2019-06-25 02:37
Turkey is way to high Iran shouldn't be on the list. Israel military isn't that strong it has influence but not strong. North Korea shouldn't be on the list. Russia has outdated tech but also has nukes enough to destroy the whole world while China can't.
2019-06-25 21:19
Are you comedian? "Israel military isn't that strong it has influence but not strong" Yeah sure mate only one of the best special forces and overall has one of the best trained military. Israel is fully covered by their missile defense system Iron Dome. Then you continue "Russia has outdated tech" Indeed their ground forces and most nukes might be but they literally have either the best or second best Missile Defense system In the world right now A-135. It is almost Impossible to Nuke anywhere near Moscow. What kind of hltv military expert are you if you don't know basics?
2019-06-26 04:22
Are you really that fucking retarded? Israel has influence through the US it's not that strong that it should be listed 4-6 on a list of the strongest military. "They have one of the strongest special forces". You do know that a special force doesn't consist of more than 5000 men? Take the Mossad from Israel. It consist of 1200 men. Now tell me will they have big difference if an invasion by a country happens? They can't do much then. Also sure they might have a great well trained military but that doesn't change the fact that if a other military with better weapons and attacks them. Israel may have a missile defense system but look at their surrounding countries. They have the Arabs,Turks, Iranian and even the Pakistanis. That will never allow them to rise for power and a missile system wouldn't change them getting attacked and invaded by them. Also i stated that Russia does have outdated tech but it's strong and has the nukes. But the retarded small brain you have said they have "the A-135". You just stated what good stuff they have. I'm talking about the guy mentioning that Russia has a lot of quantity and should not be top 2. Which i then replied with that they do have outdated tech but also very new and great weapons. Also that China shouldn't be over Russia since Russia has enough nukes to destroy the whole fucking world. Again proving my point for me. Please don't argue with people without reading the full story. You're clearly retarded and don't know a shit.
2019-06-28 15:14
Listen buddy... I never said that israel is that high nor did I say I agreed with the guys list I just corrected your comment about saying its not steong because that is complete bullshit. Their army is easily on top 15 so don't say it isn't strong. I think you need to read the full story before arguing. Then I never said that their special force will conquer some country I just mentioned it as point and one of the reasons why their army is good. Special forces can have overall at the end very big effect but your small brains just can't comprehend that. Then you said that countries surraunding israel wont let them grow you do know that Israel already fucked them all not that long ago. Maybe you should go check your facts. And what are they going to do if Israel starts growing more than already now thay can't do shit. Then you said that arabs, turkey and Pakistan wont let that happen. Excuse me what? This sentence proved that you don't know shit at all. Pakistan is already in conflict with India and doesn't have the resources to care about Israle. Turkey is part of Nato and has no reason at all to attack or care about Israel. Then you said Arabs well thats not a country but I assume you ment Saudi-Arbia, jordan and Egypt and those other shit holes. First of all only on of those who could win Israel is Saudi-Arabia which is nowadays close trading partner and ally of Usa. So there goes that too. Where do you even find these arguments lmao. Then we come to Russia and if you read my original comment again you see that I agree with you most of them are outdated but I mentioned their missile Defence because its nowadays one of the most important tech you could upgrade. And my point being that I wouldn't say their "tech" is outdated if they have the Important stuff solved.
2019-06-28 18:33
2019-06-26 04:27
Not good thread for HLTV brother, people there are too retarded
2019-06-26 04:33
Polands defence budget 9 360 000 000 $ - 24th place in ranking Turkey defence budget 8 600 000 000 $ - 9th place something is not right
2019-06-26 04:38
This list bases much of their stuff on irrelevant stuff like GDP which makes it inaccurate and bad.
2019-06-28 15:04
Malta luzanocabbo 
Israeli army would shit on everybody , who knows , knows why
2019-06-28 20:54
2019-06-28 21:12
Simo Häyhä army #1
2019-07-01 01:21
Report and shut up
2019-07-09 17:23
Romania vladszk 
North Koreea mens))))
2019-07-09 17:44
Poland Hell2k 
North Korea for sure
2019-07-09 18:24
United States Jammin800k 
What a garbage thread full of nationalistic assholes who have no idea what they're talking about.
2019-07-10 07:06
USA - Russia - China - France - UK - India - Turkey - Iran - Suudi Arabia -Israel
2019-07-17 17:11
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