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ASTRALIS TOP #2???
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Norway stekt_laks 
is this the day that BLASTRALIS will finally fall to top 2??. as an astralis fan i've been quite disappointed by both their lack of attendance and perfomance. i feel like the real astralis era is long gone and blast is ruining all competitive integrity in the scene. for me, yes. astralis is definately top 2 after madrid.
2019-05-13 10:23
No
2019-05-13 10:24
Team Liquid is already top1, everybody knows that America dominate scene once again
2019-05-13 11:01
How can Liquid be #1 when astralis beat them 14 out of the 17 series in the past year.
2019-05-13 11:11
we are not talking about past but about present, they were lacking good aimer and job finisher like stewie, unfortunately their past looks like this because TACO never fitted into the team
2019-05-14 07:17
? Taco was arguebly the best for Liquid. he was the anchor and the supporter that liquid needed. he was the reason, liquid gor the the 2nd spot in the first place. just becuz somebody doesnt perform like the rest of the team, doesnt mean that they are useless
2019-05-15 09:22
+1
2019-05-15 11:52
+1
2019-05-15 16:48
"Taco was the best for Liquid" Absolutely Not W/Taco: something like 4-25 vs astralis W/Stewie: (2-1) (1-2) (beat astralis at blast miami groups) (lost at the other blast that i forgot the name of in groups) (4-4 overall on LAN) W/Taco: After choking map 4 in a bo5 against a worse team at ESL NY, Liquid choke map 5 aswell and lose 2-3 W/Stewie: After choking map 4 in a bo5 against a worse team at IEM Sydney, Liquid destroy map 5 and win 3-2 "oh hes just better, oh support, oh he is support so no frags" shut the fuck up with that talk, taco isnt the reason liquid became top 2, elige naf and twistZz were star players are 10x more important than support prime faze is a 4 star 1 support team, 2017 jul-nov navi is a 1 star 4 support team (s1mple zeus flamie seized edward) faze was top 1, navi was top 20 say whatever u want about support roles, results show stewie is the best for liquid
2019-05-15 16:51
+1 STEW > TACO
2019-05-15 20:08
+1
2019-05-15 18:35
ok yes TACO is great support player but I still think he didn't fit cuz more than supportive player they actually need some non-choking, clutching player, choking is their achilles heel. They need strong non-choking clutcher tbh. Who would fit? Idk
2019-05-15 20:45
aspx?
2019-05-16 07:48
#158
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Brazil MrLucas 
+1 Liquid was shit before Taco
2019-05-16 22:34
When?
2019-05-13 11:19
once again? OMEGALUL
2019-05-13 11:20
I dont even remember what i wrote before, could you please say it again
2019-05-13 11:31
i replied to the wrong comment i guess... imma dumb weeb dont mind me
2019-05-13 11:45
Its Ok my weebo :)))
2019-05-13 12:15
#32
Finland nzj 
Ence > Liquid atm :)) Liquid lost to Faze and did not manage to beat Ence, also Ence has won every top#4 team this year in bo3. Tho rankings => 1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3. ENCE 4. FaZe 5. NaVi 6. fnatic 7. Mibr 8. NiP 9. NRG 10. Renegades
2019-05-13 11:29
#38
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Norway analpain1337 
6 fnatic 7 nip 8 mibr
2019-05-13 11:34
#93
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United Kingdom RaZeFX 
I disagree
2019-05-15 08:57
No one asked. But seriously, in the last week or two, Fnatic and NiP have looked better than MiBr imo
2019-05-15 09:02
#109
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United States Jammin800k 
But MiBR got farther than NiP at Sydney...?
2019-05-15 11:49
Yeah, I'm probably influenced by NIP's matches in Blast Pro Madrid. Didn't really consider MiBr not being there, my bad
2019-05-15 11:56
#117
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United States Jammin800k 
They looked alright but they also got clapped by Giants, still showing classic NiP inconsistency.
2019-05-15 11:58
Jesus christ I am bad at reading results, nvm
2019-05-15 12:06
#130
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United Kingdom RaZeFX 
I can make a case for it tbh, dominated ence, raped Navi ect
2019-05-15 20:18
#126
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Norway analpain1337 
i was right anyway so i wont care about you
2019-05-15 20:04
navi faze fnatic nip mibr
2019-05-13 12:08
#79
Finland nzj 
almost ;-)
2019-05-13 22:07
ence never beat renegades
2019-05-14 06:34
#86
Finland nzj 
true, sadly Renegades can't perform against top10 :( edit: Sorry I take it back, seems they've beaten Mibr and FaZe x) well Top5 then.
2019-05-14 07:15
fucking retard.
2019-05-15 01:47
#91
Finland nzj 
typical aussie response.
2019-05-15 08:30
Dude why u so buthurt? Most of the time when an Aussie says ur a fucking retard we mean it lightly as ur an idiot jokingly. Sorry if it came across harsh bud. + i love ence anyways hope they stay top 3 and i also hope liquid stay at the top ;) and renegades can perform well. have a good day.
2019-05-15 09:43
I somewhat believe that nzj replied with a sweethearted grin on his face, of course we understand aussies. In matter of fact, please, do not change, u're awesome :)
2019-05-15 12:42
Blastralis Liquid Ence S1mple NRG//NIP//Faze In a few months Liquid Ence BADstralis S1mple NRG NIP 7 8 9... 37 Faze
2019-05-15 01:52
+1
2019-05-15 08:58
#107
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Poland Ki11eRq 
Do you mean that NEO's transfer was a bad decision?
2019-05-15 09:47
4 faze ? More like 8-10
2019-05-15 11:50
Faze top 4? OMEGALUL
2019-05-15 16:46
#125
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Germany Shackrag 
faze has a new ingame leader they are a completely different team now that has to proof themself. the loss vs vp shows that they are far from being a team that deserves a top 10 spot and rather need some time.
2019-05-15 20:01
why NaVi lower than Faze, who lost to god damn VP
2019-05-15 20:14
When was the last time?
2019-05-13 11:29
uhhhh about that...
2019-05-15 11:54
Liquid still didin't play against Astralis after IEM Sydney. Liquid can't be top1 if they choke every final. Against fnatic it was really close and Liquid was massive favorite, everybody thought that Liquid will win 3-0 and they almost choked against against FNATIC. What Liquid want to do in the final against ENCE, or Astralis
2019-05-16 22:42
ence need to win more tournaments to get points and be top1
2019-05-13 10:24
#5
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Denmark RotterdamMelon 
Liquid*
2019-05-13 10:25
Ence*
2019-05-13 11:39
you ENCE fans are getting to a level where SK fans used to be except ENCE cant win jackshit
2019-05-14 01:04
Buahah ence fan? That was a good one
2019-05-14 06:31
HLTV ranking in 3 months 1. Liquid 2. ENCE 3. Astralis 4. NaVi 5. Fnatic 6. FaZe 7. NRG 8. MOUS 9. NIP 10. MIBR
2019-05-13 10:57
#23
dupreeh | 
Denmark svejso 
lul astralis 3 they just won a major wtf what did liquid win? Intel Extreme Masters XIV - Sydney astralis would easy win that if they was there
2019-05-13 11:14
We see after next major)
2019-05-13 11:15
#97
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Italy Gio_bose 
What good event have Astralis won after the major?
2019-05-15 09:06
What good events have they played ?
2019-05-15 09:25
#134
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Italy Gio_bose 
Exactly that's their fault for not attending any good events
2019-05-15 21:30
+1 Astralis era still didn't end imo. They fucked up one tournament, BLAST Madrid with stupid match system, and people think their era is over. Liquid almost lost to fucking FNATIC. They would lose 0-3 if they would played against Astralis
2019-05-16 22:46
so right
2019-05-18 20:20
but nip will win a tournament in 3 months 4Head and fnatic will choke 4Head
2019-05-13 11:18
NiP and Fnatic eras in 9 months trust me)
2019-05-13 11:19
PogChamp but mibr will not get 10 places they will get 30
2019-05-13 11:20
in 9 months mibr top 200))
2019-05-13 11:22
PogChamp
2019-05-13 11:22
#34
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Greece DarkiNsid3 
FaZe with neo igl 6th lul
2019-05-13 11:31
#95
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United States Kick_Rush_FFS 
exaclty faze wont even be top 15
2019-05-15 09:01
ENCE>Liquid
2019-05-16 22:42
Renegades > NRG imo
2019-05-16 22:50
#3
KRIMZ | 
Poland krwc 
astralis top2 but anyone team is top1
2019-05-13 10:24
#4
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Sweden Trkmag 
1: Astralis 2: ENCE 3: Liquid 4: FaZe 5: NaVi
2019-05-13 10:25
so true man
2019-05-13 10:26
#7
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Norway stekt_laks 
1. Liquid 2. Astralis 3. ENCE 4. Navi 5. FaZe
2019-05-13 10:26
not true
2019-05-13 10:27
#66
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Sweden Trkmag 
Ast > Liquid no discussion
2019-05-13 14:06
faze > navi? im done
2019-05-13 10:27
#13
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Norway stekt_laks 
NaVi = 1v5 (2v5 at best) FaZe = 3v5
2019-05-13 10:37
2v5 at best??? navi 4 players in top-20 if you just open stats of big events this year Edward 4th player of navi have 1,06 this year while 4th of faze have 0,97 even 3rd guardian have 1,03, if navi 1v5 then faze 0v5 if navi 2v5 at best then faze 1v5 at best AND zeus even > adren
2019-05-13 11:08
#22
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Norway stekt_laks 
Why do they never win then?
2019-05-13 11:14
hard to win 3-4v5, edward and flamie 1 of them always play like shit, another playing good, that why it's hard to win cuz no zeus = 3v5, but what faze won? bo1 event? WOW well played
2019-05-13 11:37
#43
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Norway stekt_laks 
They still won. Unlike navi lul
2019-05-13 11:41
yep can only win tier-2 event with bo1, where was faze on starladder? oh w8 they didnt even make it to the playoff on event where no astralis and liquid, where they choke agaist north and all of the matches was bo3
2019-05-13 15:42
#69
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Norway stekt_laks 
Navi had home crowd. And astralis wasnt at starladder :*)
2019-05-13 15:53
#70
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Norway stekt_laks 
Not to mention navi played against tier 2 teams the entire event lul
2019-05-13 15:57
they beat everyone on that event, they faced the best team in event ence in 1/4, ence beat faze in group stage CHINA - home crowd:D
2019-05-13 16:26
#74
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Norway stekt_laks 
Typical delusional navi fan. Celebrates when they win meaningless t2-3 tournament
2019-05-13 16:28
bo3 event with teams from top-3 to top-11 with 500k prize pool and all matches bo3 16 teams, while faze win useless tier-4 event with bo1 random luck
2019-05-13 17:40
#76
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Norway stekt_laks 
Lul, faze's form was so bad they were basically t3. Navi was the only t1 team there buddy
2019-05-13 18:18
ence > astralis > liquid > navi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> horse shit > faze
2019-05-13 20:17
#40
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Finland Juhousiwan 
What is navi? I only know team simple. Think simple is also the only player it that team too
2019-05-13 11:38
electronic > any player of faze OMEGALUL
2019-05-13 15:43
#77
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Finland Juhousiwan 
What team does electronic play for? definitely not team simple since only 1 player there
2019-05-13 19:46
#98
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Italy Gio_bose 
Niko is better than electronic lul
2019-05-15 09:08
niko have -16 frags agaist VP LUL, ofc when all team player for niko he get better stats, while electronic support s1mple
2019-05-15 11:36
#135
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Italy Gio_bose 
Why are you even talking about online CSGO?? Niko 1.23 at Lan events this year Electronic 1.21 at Lan events this year
2019-05-15 21:34
#65
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Sweden Trkmag 
With NaVi’s current form yeah, FaZe won Miami whereas NaVi lost to fucking NiP
2019-05-13 14:05
#8
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Switzerland Coolest_Medic 
No They are top10 at best.
2019-05-13 10:26
Flair unexpected, first non delusional astralis fan, maybe there is hope
2019-05-13 10:27
#12
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Norway stekt_laks 
thanks?
2019-05-13 10:36
Np
2019-05-13 11:32
how would they drop, they got 2nd place in event, they only gained points. Expect them to have even bigger lead than before.
2019-05-13 10:38
If they wont lose form points this website is danish
2019-05-13 11:41
I would be doubtful about that, I don't believe losing games loses u that many points, surely they gained more from their wins.
2019-05-13 11:44
If you lose matches you cant nearly have maximum form points
2019-05-13 11:46
That would really suck cuz then u could gain best points going very few events and winning all games over team who goes tons of events and loses few games xd
2019-05-13 11:49
Exaktly, thats why they should lose more form points
2019-05-13 12:01
And that is why only reason why they actually might end up losing points this week is cuz their ECS qualifier results won't be counted towards form ranking this week anymore, cuz few losses won't suddenly make ur form rank get worse as long as u also win.
2019-05-13 12:08
#50
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
Someone didn't understand the ranking
2019-05-13 11:50
Okey, can you explain to me then how they can have nearly maximum form points? Since im to retarded to understand
2019-05-13 12:00
#61
oskarJ | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w 
There is ALWAYS a team with 200 form rating. Last week it was Liquid iirc, with astralis being closely behind. So even with a not so good form(e.g. you won 13 out of the 20 matches which are included in the sub ranking) you could get 200 points( if the rest is even shittier). If you won 23/23 of the matches you would also get only 200 points.
2019-05-13 12:10
#101
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Italy Gio_bose 
By this time last year they were just winning event after event so point decay will occur
2019-05-15 09:19
They didnt lose so much points also Liquid didnt win enough. Ranking will be almost the same - 1. Astralis 2. Liquid 3. ENCE
2019-05-13 10:40
#16
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Europe lalt 
Astralis is still #1 but their era is gone.
2019-05-13 10:41
Astralis will not lose points and ence will not gain enough
2019-05-13 11:04
#36
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Vietnam comergod1 
Astralis will never fall to top 2 cause they have 1000 more hidden elo
2019-05-13 11:31
They have 992 points rn so...
2019-05-13 12:01
#63
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Vietnam comergod1 
yeah ofc it's displayed points and they have 1000+ more hidden points
2019-05-13 12:49
8/8
2019-05-13 12:52
No,they will definetly remain #1 since they wont lose points just not gain almost any and the closest team to catch up is Liquid and they didnt get any points either.The next two events will be the deciders imo
2019-05-13 11:39
#47
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Germany NatsuS 
They never had an era. And they dont belong in top 2.
2019-05-13 11:45
Astralis have been attending too few tournaments, most likely because of RFRSH org. Doing scrims and practicing tactics isn't the same as going to an event like IEM Sydney and playing against teams like Liquid, FaZe, MiBR, NRG, NiP or Fnatic. They're getting "rusty" because they play so little. If RFRSH keep hindering Astralis from playing more tourneys, they'll fall from #1 very quickly. They need to play more to stay fresh, or they'll keep making dumb mistakes like they did at Blast.
2019-05-13 11:58
Yes
2019-05-13 12:01
yes mibr top 1 in 3 months boys
2019-05-13 12:03
Astralis will win the next two tournaments they attend at least. Liquid and ENCE will battle for #2, but NaVi will also battle and place 2nd to Astralis at least once in the next couple tournaments.
2019-05-13 12:09
Just wait for Esl Pro League and for ECS S7 ..Astralis is better than Liquid..
2019-05-13 12:10
Nope
2019-05-13 15:58
#80
SpawN | 
Austria vaekos 
Yes
2019-05-13 22:11
#83
NiKo | 
India Sishir 
Yes. Sensible fan. Nice. I agree.
2019-05-14 06:33
#85
loli | 
United States credit 
TELL ME WHY AIN'T NOTHING
2019-05-14 06:45
#2 doesnt mean much to be honest. imo they are the best team in the world until someone dethrone them consistently. "as an astralis fan i've been quite disappointed by both their lack of attendance and perfomance." so they skipped 2 events in the far east and are now in vacation. thats just some time off, before the season really starts with ecs, epl, cologne major ect.. the point with blast is shit yeah, all top teams are contracted to them except ence, thats the reason why liquid will skip cologne and navi skipped sydney probably. blast did everything wrong, but imo astralis did nothing wrong at all
2019-05-15 01:59
#103
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Italy Gio_bose 
They lost their era what do you mean they did nothing wrong?????? (I'm not saying they are not still top 1 but still lost their era)
2019-05-15 09:22
#113
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United States Jammin800k 
Lol? if they win ESL pro league ECS and cologne/major they will have won 3 back to back EPL and ECS seasons and 3 majors in a row while also winning a majority of the other Big Events in that time period, how is that not an era? Their era is far from over, theyre still the clear #1 (favored #1 at every event they attend) and every team is aiming to prove that they're better, if thats not an era than idk what is.
2019-05-15 11:53
#136
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Italy Gio_bose 
What I am saying is that they had an era from mid 2018 to early march 2019. Then they has 3 and a half months where they played no premier tournaments. If they then go on to win the EPL finals and the major then they may start a new era however because they had three and a half months where they did not win a relevant trophy that cannot be considered part of an era of dominance as they didn't win anything of value. Since you cannot have a gap in between eras Astralis's era is now over but if they win EPL and the major and ECS then they could easily start another one
2019-05-15 21:40
but no one denied them in their era. They are still the best team, even if they lose 2 blast events. imo if they win now on dominant, then their era never ended, maybe had a pause cuz all events were shit. How can there be 2 eras from the same team at the same time, then fnatic would have more eras too with your logic t
2019-05-15 23:44
#140
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Italy Gio_bose 
An era can't have a pause then it becomes two separate eras as in an era you have to be dominant o er the whole scene at all times however with a three and a half month gap of winning no premier events then they are no longer dominating therefore this does not count as part of their era. So that is two separate eras. The eras are at different times not the same time . First era: April 2018 - March 2019 If Second era: June/July 2019 - whenever it ends
2019-05-16 00:20
#141
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United States Jammin800k 
Nope the same era will continue because their dominance never stopped. #115 You realize that if they continue winning tier 1 events no one is going to care right? If they took a break from a few premier tournaments and then proceed to win all the ones they attended then they're still an insanely dominant team and no one can deny that. If no one was able to take the top spot from them or even come close (they're still ahead by over 200 points) then its clearly an era. They will have a majority of the t1 titles this year and a major, that's pure dominance.
2019-05-16 00:47
#147
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Italy Gio_bose 
Not dominance in these three and half months therefore not in an era atm. So there are 2 different eras
2019-05-16 07:46
#149
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United States Jammin800k 
Every team is still trying to catch up to them, so yes its still an era. Still by far the most favored team at every upcoming event. 3.5 months is just an arbitrary time period and completely ignores context, if they were actually dropping off and losing to weaker teams that would make sense but the only teams they've lost series to this year are the respective #3 and #2 in the world. No team can claim they are stronger than Astralis, no team can claim they are favored at any event Astralis attends, and Astralis is still the most advanced team. Era remains if they win upcoming events. You dont have to win every event in the period for it to be an era.
2019-05-16 07:52
#152
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Italy Gio_bose 
You don't have to win every event but you have to be dominant how can you be dominant if you attend no events???? Just cuz your the best team in the world it doesn't mean you have an era you actually have to win events if you want it to be an era. Even if it were true that their era was too continue they would have to win EPL and cologne cuz atm ECS is looking like a tier 2 tournament. But that's beside the point you cannot claim an era of you are not going to events
2019-05-16 15:58
#154
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United States Jammin800k 
Yes you can? It was 3 events they're still attending a majority of the big events and therefore still have the possibility to win a majority of the Big Events which is era defining not to mention the 3 major storylines 1st time 4x major winner csgo storylines. ESL reigning champ storylines. The era definitely isnt over yet.
2019-05-16 22:30
#156
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Italy Gio_bose 
I'm getting no where you don't understand what dominance is let's just agree to disagree
2019-05-16 22:32
#165
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United States Jammin800k 
No your definition of dominance ignores context
2019-05-16 23:39
so you say fnatic had more than 1 era? looking back you still think about 1 era... the dominance didnt stop yet, until someone takes them down of their throne..
2019-05-16 01:20
#150
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United States Jammin800k 
It was 2 eras because the roster changed, but if they had continued with the same results and roster it would be 1 consecutive era. Era has to be the same 5 players.
2019-05-16 07:53
They always skip starseries, ( last one was 1 year ago) also they didnt want to travel to sydney cuz device illness or something ALSO they have to attend 5 blast events. so instead of doing nothing they attented blast events, so they dont have to go later this year
2019-05-15 23:38
#139
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Italy Gio_bose 
What do youean they always skip star series the last time they had a proper starseries that was a premier event like this one was when Astralis attended it the ones after were all tier 2 and 3 Also skiped dreamhack masters Dallas..... You can't just skip all the premier events and expect your era to continue
2019-05-16 00:22
skipping dallas cuz ecs is very close and has better prize pool. they dont care about a era. if they dominate after all this in the big events coming up, their era isnt over. no one is clearly better than them right now
2019-05-16 01:12
#146
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Italy Gio_bose 
I don't think you understand what an era is
2019-05-16 07:45
A team that dominates the whole cs-scene for a long time. the dominance just didnt stop now, if they show up at ecs, epl and cologne.. if not the era is ove imo they wont win all those events, but I just dont see a better team than astralis right now..
2019-05-16 14:00
#153
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Italy Gio_bose 
I agree with you there is not a better team than Astralis however just cuz they are the best doesn't mean they still have their era. They have not won any events like a team with an era should be doing cuz they haven't attended any so they have lost their era and must look to rebuild their era
2019-05-16 16:00
#92
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Europe Cirro 
Mby but there isn't any obvious top 1 yet
2019-05-15 08:49
#115
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United States Jammin800k 
Astralis is still the clear #1 theyre by far the most favored team in upcoming tournaments on betting sites and still have yet to be beaten at a Big international 16 team tournament, If they fail at ESL/ECS you can say their era is over, but not yet.
2019-05-15 11:54
#120
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Europe Cirro 
Hm what's true that's true, point for you.
2019-05-15 16:10
never they will remain forever top1
2019-05-15 09:09
Sorry guys but mouse top 5 in 3 months .... They are better and better with each match. Destroyed G2 and today NIP 2:0. You will see
2019-05-15 09:09
Destroying G2 doesn't mean much these days unfortunately
2019-05-15 09:27
#128
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Bulgaria ONZIEMA 
but vitality are the beasts
2019-05-15 20:10
#111
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Ukraine COV@ 
no. We don't must rate a team in one tournament. especially since it's a blast.
2019-05-15 11:51
#131
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Denmark Xipingu 
BLAST should gtfo, 5x Bo1 to determine two finalists is a fucking joke.
2019-05-15 20:20
#143
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Poland anton1oo 
+1
2019-05-16 01:12
fan of astralis kek
2019-05-15 20:22
If you are top 1 then you are also top 2 idiot
2019-05-16 01:14
They are top 2 since the new mouz got formed so... maybe they are top 3 soon
2019-05-16 22:31
Astralis top 1 GOAT team of CS:GO history, cry is free for sissy haters
2019-05-16 22:32
#159
NiKo | 
Turkey Muff1nzP 
FaZe Vitalty Ence Mouz Hellraisers
2019-05-16 22:36
Liquid won their first decent tournament, where still astralis navi faze and ence didnt play and you think they deserve top 1 spot? are you kidding me?
2019-05-16 22:45
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