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North America northamerican10yrs 
hi, as leftist id like to hear the BEST rightist arguments so i can engage with others ideas! rightists, whats your BEST argument?
2019-05-16 08:28
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Why would you question what's right?
2019-05-16 08:29
+1 lol
2019-05-16 08:35
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2019-05-16 16:33
Leftism checks out
2019-05-17 03:38
+1 got BTFO with that answer
2019-05-16 16:46
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United States tatsumi
2019-05-16 20:02
Belgium Bouli
+1 hahahaha
2019-05-16 23:10
2019-05-16 23:37
+1 leftie got rekt lul
2019-05-17 03:37
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2019-05-17 07:01
Because everything should be questioned.
2019-05-17 07:06
Not if it's right already
2019-05-17 22:13
2019-05-17 17:12
Hehe +1
2019-05-17 22:11
+1, annihilated
2019-05-17 22:11
I am very surprised that despite the fact that at least one of those puns is on each of those political threads on hltv, so many people still find them hilarious. I have seen so many of them, its crazy.
2019-05-18 10:02
mad leftie
2019-05-20 17:49
Nah, I just dont laugh at obvious jokes. If a leftie had made a similar pun I would have also just sighed.
2019-05-20 19:02
Czech Republic QuertyX
+1 haha
2019-05-18 13:33
+1 damn right
2019-05-18 13:36
I don't get why people are LOLing so much.. Don't see how it's that funny
2019-05-18 13:38
2019-05-18 14:30
Sweden dr_mario99
The right thing is not what is left
2019-05-16 08:31
Sometimes I wonder if right-wingers think that those semantic statements are actually anything more than just a pun.
2019-05-18 10:03
There's nothing more to it than it being a pun
2019-05-18 10:10
You're wonderful.
2019-05-18 10:13
no matter what they sayyyy
2019-05-18 10:24
Never answer to soyboy SJW from americrap.
2019-05-16 08:38
2019-05-16 09:03
Stfu sjw soyboy from americrap
2019-05-17 03:38
I don't frequently consume soy, and soy contains phytoestrogen, not estrogen. I can't change what country I'm from, and I guess I'm an "SJW" if you decide it...
2019-05-17 04:59
I'm not a rightist, but why don't you read some books about left, liberalism and right before enagaging for discussion treads trying to argue why you're correct? Avoid being a one book/author person Edidt: missclicked an 'a'
2019-05-17 21:14
United States Acehavok
Americrap will eventually blow you up because you have stan in your name lol
2019-05-16 09:06
god bless america
2019-05-16 09:15
United States Acehavok
Every time I hear or read that I instantly think of an eagle screaming, a monster truck in the background, and some explosions with the national anthem ear rape.
2019-05-16 09:17
Denmark Twick_
And borat
2019-05-16 09:22
Same, god bless America even though I have nothing to do with it
2019-05-16 16:33
Blowing something up? National anthem? Leftists tend to burn american flags, maybe start from them?
2019-05-17 03:40
Denmark Twick_
I didn’t know they had internet in desert Finland
2019-05-16 09:18
2019-05-16 09:19
united shithole of america
2019-05-24 08:16
+1 Accept the americrap part. Now prepare to be bombed.
2019-05-16 16:39
Most muslims are radicals. Maybe not terrorists, but they're fanatics when it comes to religion.
2019-05-16 08:39
Not like Israelis. Where almost every citizen is involved directly in the military operations of illegal occupation and support annexation of foreign territories. Whose nation exists outside the standards of international law. Who redefine reality to support their agenda. Average Israeli: "The whole world thinks we're guilty of war crimes? Well the whole world must be biased!" "This is our land!!!! The Torah said so!!!!"
2019-05-16 09:59
"Not like Israelis. Where almost every citizen is involved directly in the operations of illegal occupation" Illegal occupation where? "and support annexation of foreign territories." Give me examples so we can debate. Right now they're planning to annex Area C, which is totally legal and there is nothing wrong with that. By the way, annexing Areas A & B is just stupid, and Israel will never do such thing. So as I said in the beginning, give me examples. "Whose nation exists outside the standards of international law." First of all, this is not true. Show me which "international law" they are violating. Secondly, no one can force ANY international laws onto a country. So this argument is not true. "Who redefine reality to support their agenda." Arabs and muslims did it when they created the Palestinian lie, pretending "Palestine" was a country or an ancient nation, just because they don't want the existence of a jewish state. Arabs and Muslims rewrite history just to fit their agenda and justify the terrible acts they are doing around the world. "Average Israeli: "The whole world thinks we're guilty of war crimes? Well the whole world must be biased!"" Stop it, get some help. The whole world doesn't think Israel is guilty of 'war crimes' or whatever BS goes through your mind. And by the way, why don't you show your real flag? P.S How are you not banned for using 2 accounts? The admins are probably biased.
2019-05-16 10:37
its not a lie to say palestine exists just like its not a lie to claim that israel exists. the area has been occupied by many peoples over the last 2000 years. for hundreds of years, there was a muslim majority. it was only not defined as an arab country because it was occupied already by arab countries and they werent a big fan of borders back in the day. something to do with their religion? there are plenty of people in my country, both that i know personally and in politics, who clearly state that israel does violate treaties, does not keep to the geneva convention, that their occupation is illegal and their treatment of the non jewish people that live in israel and palestine is inhumane. a previous prime minister of my country, Dries van Agt, last year called meetings to tell people how worried he was about the israel palestine issue and how little attention my country pays to the human rights violations that occur there daily. a man like that does not lightly make such a decision, to start meddling in foreign affairs, at the age of 80. he would only do that if he truly believes he has to. did you know the israelis dug very deep wells along the border with gaza and are pumping up all the groundwater so it cant get to palestine? just 1 example out of a 1000 things they do to fuck people up. hamas is a terrorist organisation, but if you call hamas terrorists, you must in the same sentence admit that the israeli government also causes terror to further their political agenda. they deserve each other.
2019-05-16 10:46
Canada suzi
What is his other account?
2019-05-16 18:09
Not only the Torah says so, even the Bible and the Quran say so. And if you're not religious, than you have historical facts that this land is jewish, and rightfully belong to the jewish people to protect thenselves from their enemies.
2019-05-16 10:40
^Israelis are not radical, terrorist or extremist btw.
2019-05-16 11:43
If by Israelis you mean 'people with Israeli citizenship', then of course there are some extremists and radicals. But not as many as there are in the arab and muslim population.
2019-05-16 11:47
My memory isn't what it was, but wasn't the modern state of Israel literally formed through a campaign of terrorism by Jewish extremists? Didn't Irgun blow up civilians and commit terror against British and Arabs like all the time?
2019-05-16 12:05
Uh, your memory isn't very good. After the jews accepted the offer and the arabs declined, the local arabs started slaughtering the jews while the British army did nothing to prevent that. This is war, things like that happening in any war - that's the meaning of war. If you want to cry over wars, do it, good luck. By the way, why did the arabs slaughtered the jews 100s of years before the idea of Israel was even a thing? Why did Christians did it as well? The answer is simple: because everyone hated jews without a reason, and when they can blame something on them they do it straight up - just like the muslims and arabs are doing.
2019-05-16 18:37
Keep using alt accounts, coward. This is war, if you want to cry about it you might wanna leave this planet. By the way, I couldn't care less about what an anti-Smite like you is thinking, because the jews have suffered since the beginning of Judaism - whether it was Christians or Muslims or anyone else for any reason that hated them and slaughtered them by millions.
2019-05-16 23:04
xaxaxa expected.
2019-05-16 23:32
Certain people and censorship. Name a more iconic combination. Causing trouble wherever they are.
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Netherlands NELK
"most" I think you are confused with the Muslim population
2019-05-16 22:53
Explain yourself please? Most muslims are radicals, do you agree or disagree?
2019-05-16 23:04
He meant all -.-
2019-05-17 03:42
And thats exactly what makes them terrorists, so yes in fact they are terrorists /close
2019-05-17 03:41
I am center-left and yet I approve this message.
2019-05-18 10:04
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Israel DatBoiSus
Ttump is a great president for US
2019-05-16 09:03
economically yes
2019-05-16 16:41
More importantly he's got good principles, the left tries to spin them as if he's a racist etc. but he really just want to make America great again which it's not yet, economically they still have quite a debt burden that can blow up anytime.. but he's trying to get production back, that will help, but has he time??
2019-05-17 22:19
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United States fatburger
Nice argument
2019-05-20 06:17
wasn't making one
2019-05-20 17:20
Nope, in terms of foreign relationships I have never seen such an ignorant and clueless person. Economics yes, other areas he is completely ignorant pushing his dumb agenda.
2019-05-16 16:51
Italy Gio_bose
2019-05-16 20:15
Give us an example, will be especially fun to analyze if it's from CNN =)
2019-05-17 22:20
Italy Gio_bose
example of what?
2019-05-17 22:22
Obama was good with foreign relationships and it turned out america got even bigger debts and pretty much everyone fucked them in the ass for the sake of their own interests so nice try but no bad try trump2k20 hurrah!
2019-05-17 03:44
Yeah, of course. Coz instead of voting for the middle-man politician that enacts on the will of his puppeteers who obviously dont care for lower or middle-class, voting for the puppeteer himself who - again - does NOT care for lower or middle-class makes SO MUCH SENSE. You just took the middleman out. You didnt improve ANYTHING.
2019-05-18 10:06
2019-05-17 03:42
Thats not an argument, thats a statement.
2019-05-18 10:04
As a leftist, the rightist argument that I agree the most is "SJW are useless on 1st world countries".
2019-05-16 09:06
yay thats true when it comes to 1st world educated countries
2019-05-16 16:43
as a leftist, i thought so until recently as well
2019-05-16 17:06
Thats about the only argument that they ever reduce the left to. I even once said to a guy that I am center-left and his response was of course that that must mean that I am also non-binary. Like WTF?
2019-05-18 10:07
Leave them. They think left is only liberalism, SJW or Communism.
2019-05-18 10:12
2019-05-18 10:24
Sjws are useless in all countries
2019-05-18 11:25
In 2nd and 3rd world countries(at least in Turkey): *Thousands of women gets killed by their own husband or relatives *Lots of children found dead in forest(and probably raped) *Some girls below 16 y/o are forced to marry It IS necessary in those countries.
2019-05-18 11:33
You dont know what an sjw is if you think that
2019-05-18 11:45
sjw in 1st world countries of course isn't that. But feminists in Turkey speak about those topics that I've mentioned only, and LGBTQBLABLA society says "ok we are f-word, we just want to outside freely without fear of getting beaten". Also no one accepts fat people as beautiful and there is no other race so there is no racism. Have you been to/lived in a 2nd/3rd world country? If your answer is no, you are just biased.
2019-05-18 11:58
Sjws dont fight for equal rights you moron
2019-05-18 14:41
2019-05-18 14:56
No in all fucking countries.
2019-05-18 15:01
United States Acehavok
"pUlL yOuRsElF uP bY yOuR bOoTsTrAps"
2019-05-16 09:08
The easiest way to spot an idiot is when they mock that great mindset , Yes , pull yourself by the bootstraps , if you think you're not capable you have no say in this.
2019-05-20 06:06
> rightists > arguments pick one
2019-05-16 09:10
Nah, there are few ok ones. But it's mostly bullshit imo
2019-05-16 09:11
Israel DatBoiSus
We're ready to hear
2019-05-16 16:43
I mentioned one on #8
2019-05-16 16:45
Israel DatBoiSus
No i'm ready to hear why right is bullshit.
2019-05-16 16:47
You are confusing far rightist with mild rightists
2019-05-16 09:12
United States tatsumi
2019-05-16 20:16
nickname checks out
2019-05-16 09:15
2019-05-16 18:14
You should be asking the opposite. Why being a leftist, when sociasm is known to have never worked through history. But if you wanna know, im all about the individual rights, don't think government should dictate what is good or bad for you.
2019-05-16 09:13
Socialism has never been tried my boi
2019-05-16 16:29
Hmmm? You sure?
2019-05-16 16:35
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Brazil vhq
Try to implant socialism > fail because socialism doesnt work > say socialism was not tried > try to implant socialism again > all same heuaheuhaue leftists
2019-05-17 06:51
Can you give me a country where the wealth was redistributed to the people?
2019-05-17 14:29
Brazil vhq
" say socialism was not tried > try to implant socialism again"
2019-05-17 17:09
good argument btw, nice try on the pivot
2019-05-17 17:10
again guy who act like ReaAl CoMmUnISm HaS nEvERR been tRied
2019-05-16 16:45
It hasnt smart guy
2019-05-16 16:49
like u :)
2019-05-16 16:50
real communism would be an unbiased computer overlord distributing wealth and giving orders to country
2019-05-17 21:25
Men, I am from east Germany and socialism like the GDR was great. Don't be a moron, socialism is the dictatorship of the proletarians. And you need to to oppress the bourgeois.
2019-05-16 17:18
Socialism is a dictatorship of the people wowie. And oppression isnt apart of socialism:)
2019-05-16 17:30
You never read Lenin. Please, you don't know anything about socialism.
2019-05-16 17:31
Leon has nothing to do with today's socialism. Leon was a revolutionary was not a socialist
2019-05-16 18:12
Netherlands Removed
So good they had to build a wall to keep people IN
2019-05-17 21:28
2019-05-18 10:02
Netherlands Removed
bait on hltv in 2k19 is such garbage like atleast put a little effort in
2019-05-18 13:20
I have no desire to discuss with you. My English is too bad.
2019-05-18 13:31
Netherlands Removed
GDR education lul
2019-05-18 13:50
I never life in GDR. The schoolsystem in the GDR was one of the best and much better than this today. Finland copy it and is today the #1. Btw I am from saxony and saxony has the best schools in Germany.
2019-05-18 14:17
Netherlands Removed
lol ok you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I won't even bother with this anymore, it's like someone saying 2+2=5. There's no helping you.
2019-05-18 14:31
Not sure if baiting or just plain stupid.
2019-05-17 03:34
Just smarter than you
2019-05-17 03:51
plain stupid confirmed! LUL
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2019-05-16 16:31
yeah first one is liberty dude
2019-05-16 16:46
Portugal Yaxok
it should to a certain extent otherwise most countries would be like brazil
2019-05-16 17:33
left does not equal socialism, democratic socialism is sorting entirely different (nordic system)
2019-05-16 18:25
aren't they social democracies, not democratic socialists?
2019-05-16 20:09
yh fucking German confuses me sometimes
2019-05-16 20:19
Italy Gio_bose
and capatlism works so much better
2019-05-16 20:16
I am not really on the right, but SJW's suck
2019-05-16 09:14
Yes and they probably swallow too, thats why we call them soyboys lul
2019-05-17 03:48
I mean it says it in the name... We're right
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Netherlands RincoB
2019-05-16 12:08
Expect your wrong on everything somehow and need safe spaces
2019-05-16 16:31
Dumbest user please don't speak to me
2019-05-16 16:37
I'm so dumb but you still pussy out of every argument
2019-05-16 16:40
No because I've argued with you before and there's no common ground so I'm not talking to a brick wall
2019-05-16 16:43
I know its hard when you only argue feelings
2019-05-16 16:48
0/8 not taking it bud
2019-05-16 17:00
Your just starting to realize I bait you into getting triggered? Atleast you got it
2019-05-16 17:27
The freer the market the freer the people
2019-05-16 11:44
That's been disproved:)
2019-05-16 16:29
Brazil vhq
wrong. nt leftist
2019-05-17 03:50
WRONG righest destroyed
2019-05-17 03:57
Serbia Provizija
2019-05-20 17:45
yes the free market for pharmaceuticals in usa is working well, very good pricing for the medicine! #lovecapitalism
2019-05-16 16:35
You earn more so you can afford it! It's the more moral strategy.
2019-05-16 18:03
Except that the government has very low minimum wages, which means people dont get paid more.
2019-05-17 06:40
Minimum wage should be abolished! It encourages companies to use robots instead.
2019-05-17 13:06
People dont earn shit in the US, they often have to work 3 jobs, an unexpected 400$ bill would be ruin for them and some of them die coz they cant pay a 7500 deductable before a treatment for whatever terrible disease they may have. What fucking planet are you on?
2019-05-18 10:10
2019-05-18 11:10
Why dont you post the fact that the minimum wage is not a living wage but rather a starvation wage? And how about you adress the fact that people die in the US coz of the idiotic healthcare system which all other 1st world countries are just laughing about?
2019-05-18 11:36
Using cnn as a source! Are you that thick?
2019-05-18 12:48
Ahh, here comes the woke wikipedia mofo. Cnn is just the messenger you dumb fuck. The original source is the Federal Reserve Board and the chief financial analyst at also agreed with the study. Surely you know more than the Federal Reserve and a high-level professional combined, yes?
2019-05-18 15:00
There are poor people in all countries. America is one of the best countries to live in.
2019-05-18 16:15
Not if you want an education without shit tons of money or crippling debt. Or if you have an accident or get a disease. Then its 2nd world. Nah, m8 US is ok but not as good as truly developed countries.
2019-05-18 17:19
If you get a degree in an actually useful subject you'd pay back debt easily. In socialist countries healthcare is "free" but you might not even get treated or you'll have to wait a long time, in the US you pay and you get treated.
2019-05-18 17:22
WTF is that answer? Do you want big corporations to dictate literally EVERY aspect of peoples lives? Its about doing it for societal health and having young people that are educated. As communism may have taught you, its important to let people go the way they generally want. Otherwise shit doesnt work as well. Yeah... or you cant and you fucking DIE. Thats way too cruel to be acceptable in a "1st world country". Why do you constantly intentionally leave out the big and relevant part that is fucked about the system?
2019-05-18 17:29
to a certain extent, yes
2019-05-16 16:49
My country's working conditions under unregulated capitalism during the industrial revolution indicate otherwise, people have never been less free. I remember when there was a free slave-trading market. The slaves were not so free.
2019-05-16 23:04
That sounds like you were missing some human rights
2019-05-17 00:27
unless they're Palestinian
2019-05-18 10:22
White power
2019-05-16 11:50
The Sun's color is white, with a CIE color-space index near (0.3, 0.3), when viewed from space or when the Sun is high in the sky. The Sun releases an estimated 384.6 yotta watts (3.846×1026 watts) of energy in the form of light and other forms of radiation. We are able to survive on Earth because the energy is spread over the area of a sphere with a radius of approximately 93,000,000 miles. At the upper reaches of our atmosphere, the energy density of solar radiation is approximately 1,368 W/m2 (watts per square meter). At the Earth's surface, the energy density is reduced to approximately 1,000 W/m2 for a surface perpendicular to the Sun's rays at sea level on a clear day. The surface area of the Earth is 510.1 trillion m². That means the white light from the Sun hits the Earth with around 500 quadrillion Watts everyday. That's a lot of [white light] power!
2019-05-16 20:18
physics > white supremacists
2019-05-17 03:37
citation needed tm
2019-05-18 10:23
right and left are bait
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Netherlands NELK
2019-05-16 22:54
starting that sort of discussion on hltv... LUL its your funeral m8
2019-05-16 16:32
Asylum immigration doesn't solve the root of the problem, therefor it's worthless in the long run. It also creates integration issues and cultural clashes.
2019-05-16 16:50
Agreed, I dont care if my country takes refugees as long as it stops starting wars that create those refugees.
2019-05-16 23:00
Exactly. If people don’t want refugees from say Syria, maybe not bombing the shit out of every man, woman, child, oil refinery, building, dog, dildo, shoe, car, plane, cat, and bed in Syria is a good way to start
2019-05-18 09:06
Why would u ever vote left? Unless you believe in fairy tales and all that.
2019-05-16 17:05
2019-05-16 18:16
name doesn’t check out?
2019-05-17 21:26
Why is 9/10 NA citizens a leftist? It's as if the cold war positions have completely flipped around
2019-05-16 17:22
It's like 1 and 4 are leftist bro
2019-05-16 17:31
I guess that NA leftists are unusually vocal
2019-05-16 20:14
Kinda have to be tbh, I'm just a loud fuck you like to argue and alot of leftists are too
2019-05-16 20:18
If 9 / 10 would be leftist , then Trump wouldnt be in power. Stop spreading your bullshit.
2019-05-16 18:27
Name doesn't check out
2019-05-16 19:16
too woke
2019-05-16 20:01
I got some talking points you will find controversial: Its okay to be white It's okay to be a man The Y chromosome defines whether you are a man or a woman. Anybody confused has, by definition, gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria has an ICD10 code l, meaning it is a medically documented, diagnosable disease. They are mentally ill and it isn't right to redefine biology and logic for 0.6% of the population. Building the wall does not harm anyone entering the country legally, does not cost much compared to our annual federal budget, and if anything will give a bunch of construction workers a wage for the duration of the project.
2019-05-16 18:37
It's okay to be white. Yes It's okay to be a man. Yes Misconception by the right generalizing the left. Two things to the your sex, gender statement. gender =/= sex , gender is more of a social construct than sex, which is biological And yes I agree with two sexes, and the rest can be considered a mental illness, but the way these people are treated is wrong. They are existing and should be considered a part of our society and thats not what is happening. No one is redefining biology in the way you are saying it, but even calling these mentally ill is dehumanizing, I dont go on the and scream "YOU ARE RETARDED" at people with an disability. People are trying to fit them into society, so that they can live a life like everyone else. And the money for the wall can be put on better things like education, healthcare or research in my opinion.
2019-05-16 20:11
2019-05-17 21:10
Germany GiiGa88
Or they could just take the money that they save on the illegal immigrants after the wall is finished
2019-05-18 11:38
I doubt you counted that through.
2019-05-18 11:53
>Its okay to be white It's okay to be a man No one disagrees with that. "It's ok to be white" was "controversial" because the people who started saying it were 4chan fascists who wanted to make it out as if there's this campaign against white people. There isn't. >The Y chromosome defines whether you are a man or a woman. Anybody confused has, by definition, gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria has an ICD10 code l, meaning it is a medically documented, diagnosable disease. They are mentally ill and it isn't right to redefine biology and logic for 0.6% of the population. No biology is being redefined by gender politics. Gender is a social construct with some biological aspects while sex is the strictly chromosomal phenomenon. Further, intersex people exist... >Building the wall does not harm anyone entering the country legally, does not cost much compared to our annual federal budget, and if anything will give a bunch of construction workers a wage for the duration of the project. Won't harm most people coming in illegally either lol. Your best argument for a government project is that it doesn't cost much compared to our massive budget and will give people a wage? There's so many better projects that fit all of those categories...
2019-05-16 22:00
Stopped reading at 4chan fasicsts Fuckin delusional
2019-05-17 03:50
whats delusional?
2019-05-17 04:58
U and ur little brainwashed npc brain
2019-05-17 13:09
im an npc but ur brain shuts off whenever you hear a phrase you dont like and you cant make a real argument
2019-05-17 15:57
delusional npc
2019-05-17 16:58
calls other people npc but can only operate in the same insults over and over LOL you literally stopped reading something because you read a phrase you dont like BAD WORDS SEEN. SHUTTING DOWN NPC BRAIN OMEGALUL
2019-05-17 17:23
the npc meme was pretty lit until it became political like pepe and ‘soyboy’ shit too. politics ruined all my favourite memes
2019-05-17 21:27
+1 lmao
2019-05-19 15:26
2019-05-20 04:22
It's true though.
2019-05-19 15:23
2019-05-17 03:49
the left are arent mentally ok
2019-05-16 22:05
2019-05-16 23:02
nice name lmao
2019-05-17 02:24
2019-05-17 13:50
being white doesn't mean you're automatically racist from birth
2019-05-17 02:24
no said that does?
2019-05-17 03:38
This is a conservative strawman. Virtually no one believes this from what i've seen.
2019-05-17 21:12
I mean I've seen a fair amount of people who have, not saying that all leftists believe this but I have seen some who do.
2019-05-17 21:20
Proper liberals do, they just aren't common anymore.
2019-05-17 21:21
Leftists are cancer to humanity /close
2019-05-17 03:37
Something tells me that you used to have a different account before.
2019-05-18 10:13
the problem with this whole fucking thread is that people on the left only look at the radical sides of the right and then extrapolate that to the entire side. its the same with people on the right. lets start by getting that out of the way, you all are collectively idiots
2019-05-17 03:39
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2019-05-17 22:18
After reading the first comment, I hereby close this argument from further comment /close
2019-05-17 03:41
I will debate u mens The reason that African Americans have an iq one entire standard deviation below white Americans is entirely genetic. There is a mountain of evidence for this, including the Minnesota transracial adoption study where black kids adopted by wealthy white families had an iq in line with the general black population of the US (83) and white kids adopted by white families had an iq in line with the general white population (just over 100). This is not due to testing bias because blacks having a slower reaction time than whites (and whites slower than east asians) which is due to blacks processing information slower than whites, hence the lower iq. Iq and reaction time are very closely linked, and there can be no bias in the reaction time test. The percentage gap between black and white reaction times is very similar to the percentage gap between black and white iq. The IQ gap, along with othe genetic factors like lower time preference (can't plan ahead/see consequences of their actions), higher frequency of MAOA alelle (strongly correlates with aggression) and lower cranial mass makes it impossible for black people as a group to be functioning members of white society. The US military did a study where they determined that anyone with an iq below 85 was a net negative and created more work than they achieved, and the military has some of the least IQ intensive jobs there are. Blacks are responsible for most of the problems in the USA today (52% of violent crime, vast majority of gun violence, hugely disproportionate welfare usage), and no matter how much is spent on educating them or welfare, their genetics prevent them from integrating into productive and peaceful members of society. >Inb4 colonialism/slavery Plenty of races and ethnic groups were enslaved or colonised and yet they don't demonstrate anywhere near the level of criminality and low iq. Irish were brought to the USA as indentured servants en mass, slavs were kidnapped by the ottomans and turned into janissaries, Spain was occupied by Muslims for hundreds of years, Armenians were occupied and genocided by the turks, and yet none of these groups have such a low iq. Before European colonists, sub Saharan Africans were effectively living in the Stone age, not even having discovered the wheel. Colonialism didn't set them back, it hurtled them forwards at an unprecedented rate. Without colonialism sub Saharan Africa would be the same now as it was 2000 years ago. Please reply fast before I get banned btw.
2019-05-17 04:42
Copied and saved.
2019-05-17 06:37
Japan @0x0
+1 malala
2019-05-17 06:43
big if true
2019-05-17 21:28
"The reason that African Americans have an iq one entire standard deviation below white Americans is entirely genetic. " Not true. 1st sentence in and you are spewing bullshit.
2019-05-19 15:27
Actually, they don't have any proper arguments as such. So they just choose to make fun of leftists and going round the corner, ill speaking of all leftists, simply not accepting the diversities of thoughts and perspective in the world, which is actually something poor to sew in this twenty first century.
2019-05-17 07:07
Lowered Taxes would give more freedom to people, and more companies would give a choice to people.
2019-05-17 07:19
even though history has proven otherwise
2019-05-17 14:30
Give an example
2019-05-17 20:25
Soviet union. High taxes and much freedom lol
2019-05-17 21:08
proves my point
2019-05-17 22:10
Because when you don't have taxes and regulations for businesses they ultimately end up abusing their power for the motive of profit. That's why the countries with laxer laws have the worst workers rights and the most dominant companies. The situation was the same in Norway before we started regulating.
2019-05-18 09:00
Exactly, in a free market, as soon as one economic agent gets more power than the others, everyone gets FUCKED bigtime and longtime.
2019-05-18 10:15
individualism and free markets vs collectivims and closed markets hmm which would i choose -TaxationIsTheft!
2019-05-17 17:01
Why do people get put in jail after committing crimes?
2019-05-18 10:15
Freedom is more important in the long run than safety
2019-05-17 21:08
im a radical centrist the holocaust wasn’t all that bad wwii wasn’t that bad we need north korea to exist otherwise the world will be taken over by the ant overlords
2019-05-17 21:29
NO POLITICS ON HLTV You fuckin donkey.
2019-05-17 21:30
its fuckin raw
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Germany N4ime
Depents on trhe topic, if it comes to gay marriage for example , the left is right. But if we look at the refugee crysis for example they are wrong in every way.
2019-05-18 09:59
the world has become a shit hole of censorship and open racism towards white people is not only encouraged but somehow considered cool...leftists are responsible for this. they want to weaken the dominant race on the planet in order to globalize. sheepish beta males like being subjugated so they're all for it.
2019-05-18 10:04
Straight from r/braincels to hltv?
2019-05-18 10:20
FACT #1: The White race has crossed seas, harnessed rivers, carved mountains, tamed deserts, and colonized the most barren icefields. It has been responsible for the invention of the printing press, cement, the harnessing of electricity, flight, rocketry, astronomy, the telescope, space travel, firearms, the transistor, radio, television, the telephone, the lightbulb, photography, motion pictures, the phonograph, the electric battery, the automobile, the steam engine, railroad transportation, the microscope, computers, and millions of other technological miracles. It has discovered countless medical advances, incredible applications, scientific progress, etc. Its members have included such greats as Socrates, Aristotle, Plato, Homer, Tacitus, Julius Ceaser, Napoleon, William the Conqueror, Marco Polo, Washington, Jefferson, Hitler, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Magellan, Columbus, Cabot, Edison, GrahamBell, Pasteur, Leeuwenhoek, Mendel, Darwin, Newton, Galileo, Watt, Ford, Luther, Devinci, Poe, Tennyson, and thousands upon thousands of other notable achievers. (37) (39) FACT #2: Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel. (Note: This is in reference to the pure-blooded Negro.) He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use (although many powerful and docile beasts abounded around him.) His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable. (21) (39) INTELLIGENCE FACT #3: The I.Q.'s of American Negroes are from 15 to 20 points, on average, below those of American Whites. (26) (16) (18) (22) FACT #4: These Black\White differences have been demonstrated repeatedly by every test ever conducted by every branch of the U.S. Military, every state, county, and local school board, the U.S. Dept. of Education, etc. The same ratio of difference has held true over a 40 year period. (18) (26) (24) FACT #5: With an average I.Q. of 85, only 16% of Blacks score over 100, while half the White population does. The Negro overlap of White median I.Q.'s ranges from 10 to 25 percent-- equality would require 50 percent. (31) (27) (16) FACT #6: Blacks are 6 times as likely to have I.Q.'s of 50 to 70 which put them in the slow learner (retarded) category, while Whites are ten times more likely to score 130 or over. (15) (16) (18) (23) FACT # 7: The U.S. government's PACE examination, given to 100,000 university graduates who are prospective professional or administrative civil-service employees each year, is passed with a score of 70 or above by 58% of the whites who take it but by only 12% of the Negroes. Among top scorers the difference between Negro and White performance is even more striking: 16% of the white applicants make scores of 90 or above, while only one-fifth of one percent of a Negro applicants score as high as 90--a White/Black success ration of 80/1. (27) FACT #8: Differences between Negro and White children increase with chronological age, the gap in performance being largest at the high school and college levels. (31) (26) FACT #9: White/Negro I.Q. differences are constantly excused as results of environmental variations. but at least five studies that have attempted to equate socio-economic backgrounds of the two races indicate no significant change in relative results. As environment improves, the Negro does better but so does the White. The gap is not decreased. (26) In fact, extensive research by DR. G.J. McGurk, associate Professor of Psychology at Villanove University, reveals that the gap in intelligence between Blacks and Whites INCREASES where socio-economic levels of both races are raised to the middle classes. (18) FACT #10: In 1915, Dr. G.W. Ferfuson took 1000 school children in Virginia, divided them into 5 racial categories, and tested them for mental aptitude. On average. full-blooded Negroes scored 69.2% as high as Whites. Three-quarter Negroes scored 73.0% as high as Whites. One-half Negroes scored 81.2% as high as Whites. One-quarter Negroes scored 91.8% as high as Whites. All of these Blacks lived as and considered themselves "Negroes." Their environments and "advantages" or disadvantages were exactly the same. (14) Also see (26) pg 452. FACT #11: Results of the Army Beta test given by the U.S. Army to over 386,000 illiterate soldiers in WWI showed Negro draftees to be "inferior to the Whites on all types of tests used in the Army." Additionally, tests were conducted upon pure Negroes, Mulattoes, and Quadroons. It was found that "the lighter groups made better scores." (14) FACT #12: Studies conducted with identical twins raised apart in radically different environments provide conclusive evidence that over-all influence of heredity exceeds that of environment in a ratio of about 3 to 1. (41) FACT #13: Even when Blacks and Whites have the same backgrounds, in terms of family income and childhood advantages, Blacks still have average I.Q. scores 12 to 15 points lower than comparable Whites. This includes cases where Black children have been adopted by White parents. Their I.Q.s may be improved by environment, but they are still closer to their biological parents than their adoptive parents. (3) (15) (26) FACT #14: Equalitarian ideologists often discount I.Q. test results with the excuse that they are culturally biased. Nonetheless, NO ONE, not the NAACP nor the United Negro College Fund, nor NEA had been able to develop an intelligence test which shows Blacks and Whites scoring equally. (15) (42) (3) FACT # 15: American Indians, who often live in conditions far worse than American Blacks during their entire lives, still consistently outscore them on I.Q. tests. (3) (27) FACT #16: The offspring of interracial marriages tend to have lower I.Q.s than the white parent. (11) (26) THE NEGRO BRAIN Fact #17: Among human races numerous studies have been made of the comparative weight of White and Negro brains with results that fell within the range of about an 8-12 percent lower weight for the Negro brain. Such studies have been conducted by Bean, Pearl, Vint, Tilney, Gordon, Todd, and others. (23) (27) FACT #18: In addition to the difference in brain weight, the Negro brain grows less after puberty than the white. Though the Negro brain and nervous system mature faster than the white brain, its development is arrested at an earlier age which limits further intellectual advancement. (22) (27) FACT #19: The thickness of the supragranular layer (the outside layer) of the Negro brain is about 15 percent thinner, and its convolutions are fewer and more simple, on average, than that of the White brain. (9) FACT #20: The frontal lobes of the Negro brain, responsible for abstract conceptional reasoning, are smaller relative to body weight, less fissured, and less complex than those of the White brain. (9) (27) (23) (22) ANTHROPOLOGY FACT #21: The name Homo sapien was first used by the 18th Century Swedish botanist Carolus Linnaeus. The word "sapien" means "wise." The name was originally used to speak of the White man and synonymous with "europaeus." As a result, many later taxonomists and geneticists believed that Negroes and other races should be classified as different species. In fact, Darwin declared in The Descent of Man that the varieties of mankind are so distinct that similar differences found in any other animal would warrant their classification in different species, if not different genera. (39) FACT #22: For his mammoth work, The Origin of Races, Professor Carleton Coon, President of the American Association of Physical Anthropologists and the premier geneticist of the world, assembled massive evidence from geography, anatomy, genetics, physiology, comparative dentition, linguistics, archeology, and fossil records from 300 bone-bearing sites to verify his theory of pre-sapien racianation." In other words, Homo erectus was divided by race even before evolution into Homo sapien stage. (12) FACT #23: According to Dr. Coon, while the Caucasoid subspecies (the White race) was evolving in Europe, the Negro race was standing still on the evolutionary plane and is today no less than 200,000 years behind the European in skull and brain development. (9) FACT #24: The Negro skull, in addition to having a smaller brain volume and thicker cranial bones than that of the White, is prognathous; i.e., the lower face projects forward, rather in the manner of an animal's muzzle. In consequence, the Negro jaw is substantially longer, relative to its width, than the White jaw. A feature of the Negro lower jaw is its retention of a vestige of the "simian shelf," a bony region immediately behind the incisors. The simian shelf is a distinguishing characteristic of apes, and it is absent in Whites. (9) (12) (39) FACT #25: The skin of the Negro is thicker and possibly superior to the White's in the way it impedes the penetration of germs and in its protection from the ultraviolet rays of the sun. (39) (14) FACT #26: The dark color of the Negro is due to melanin pigment which is spread through every layer of the skin and is found even in the muscles and brain. (9) (27) FACT #27: An African dentist can tell a Negro's tooth from a white man's at a glance. (14) FACT #28: Negroes have arms which are longer, relative to body height, than those of Whites. This feature, together with their much thicker cranial bones, gives Black athletes an advantage over Whites in boxing. The skeletal and muscular peculiarities of Negroes' lower limbs have given them considerable success as sprinters, but have left them relative undistinguished as distance runners. (39) (27) FACT #29: ADDITIONAL DIFFERENCES --The hair is black, crispy, and "woolly" in texture, it is flat and elliptical with no central canal or duct like the hair of Europeans. --The nose is thick, broad and flat, often turned up nostrils exposing the red inner lining of the mucous membrane similar to an ape. --The arms and legs of the Negro are relatively longer than the European. The humerus is a trifle shorter and the forearm longer thereby approximating the simian form. --The eyes are prominent, iris black and the orbits large. The eye often has a yellowish sclerotic coat over it like that of a gorilla. --The Negro has a shorter trunk the cross-section of the chest is more circular than whites. The pelvis is narrower and longer as it is in an ape. --The mouth is wide with very thick, large and protruding lips. --Negro skin has a thick superficial horny layer which resists scratching and impedes the penetration of germs. --The Negro has a larger and shorter neck akin to that of anthropoids. --The cranial sutures are more simple than in the white type and close together earlier. --The ears are roundish, rather small, standing somewhat high and detached thus approaching the simian form. --The Negro is more powerfully developed from the pelvis down and the white more powerfully developed in the chest. --The jaw is larger and stronger and protrudes outward which, along with lower retreating forehead, gives a facial angle of 68 to 70 degrees as opposed to a facial angle of 80 to 82 degrees for Europeans. --The hands and fingers are proportionally narrower and longer. The wrist and ankles are shorter and more robust. --The frontal and paricial bones of the cranium are less excavated and less capacious. The skull is thicker especially on the sides. --The brain of the Negro on the average is 9 to 20% smaller than whites. --The teeth are larger and are wider apart than in the white race. --The three curvatures of the spine are less pronounced in the Negro than in the white and thus more characteristic of an ape. --The femur of the Negro is less oblique, the tibia (shin bone) more curved and bent forward, the calf of the leg high and but little developed. --The heel is broad and projecting, the foot long and broad but slightly arched causing flat soles, the great toe is shorter than in the white. --The two bones proper of the nose are occasionally united, as in apes. FACT #30: Blood group studies made during WWII suggest the American Negro gene pool is about 28% white. --This despite all manner of institutional discrimination, social segregation, etc. Keep in mind that the results of test from true Black Africans would show even bigger differences from Whites. (32) (14) CRIME FACT #31: The rate at which Blacks commit murder is thirteen times that of Whites; Rape and assault, ten times. These figures, as given by the F.B.I. reports, vary somewhat from year to year but fairly represent the trend for the past decade. (27) (6) (13) FACT #32: According to the justice Dept, 1 in every 4 Black males between the ages of 20 and 29 is currently in prison or on probation or parole. (32) (6) (3) FACT #33: Though only 12% of the U.S. population, Blacks commit more than half of all rapes and robberies and 60% of all murders in the U.S. (32) (27) (6) FACT #34: Approximately 50% of all Black males will be arrested and charged with a serious felony during their lifetime. (27) FACT #35: A Black person is 56 TIMES more likely to attack a White person than Vice Versa. (3) (32) FACT #36: Black rapists choose White victims over half (54.9%) of the time, 30X as often as Whites choose Blacks. (2) (32) (28) FACT #37: The annual report from the Department of justice shows that when Whites commit violence they do it to Blacks 2.4% of the time. Blacks, on the other hand, choose White victims MORE THAN HALF the time. (3) FACT #38: In New York City, any White is over 300 TIMES MORE LIKELY to be assaulted by a gang of Blacks than is a Black by a gang of Whites. (32) FACT #39: Many people argue that high Black incarceration rates show that police center enforcement at Black crimes and ignore white-collar crimes. However, Blacks commit a disproportionate number of white-collar offenses as well. In 1990, Blacks were nearly 3 times as likely to be arrested for forgery, counterfeiting, and embezzlement as Whites. (32) (6) FACT #40: Many people believe that crime is a product of poverty and lack of "advantages." However, the District of Columbia, which enjoys the highest average annual salaries and is second only to Alaska in personal income per capita, leads the nation in just about every category of crime including murder, robbery, aggravated assault, and vehicle theft. D.C. also has the country's strictest gun control, highest police costs per capita, highest ration of police and correctional officers per citizen, and highest rate of incarceration. Its permanent population is over 80% Black. West Virginia, which has the nation's lowest crime rate, suffers from chronic poverty and has the highest unemployment in the U.S. It also has the fewest police per capita. West Virginia is over 96% White. (33) THE BLACK FAMILY FACT #41 46% of inner city Black men between the ages of 16 and 62 are unemployed. (27) FACT #42: More than 66% of the children of Negroes are born out of wedlock. Per capita, their illegitimacy rate is ten times that of Whites. (32) (27) FACT #43: Blacks are four and a half times more likely than Whites to be on welfare. (32) FACT #44: More than 35% of all Black men in U.S. Cities are drug or alcohol abusers. (27) BEAUTY FACT #45: The January l986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes. (Also see #11) FACT #46: Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms." The results of the study "Age, Sex, Race, and the Perception of Facial Beauty." Developmental Psychology, 5, Nov., 1971, pp 433-439, are reprinted below. GROUP BEAUTY RATINGS IN CROSS AND CROSS STUDY JUDGES' GROUP GIVEN CHARACTERISTICS HIGHEST RATING --------------- -------------- Age 7 white males white adolescent males Age 7 black males white adolescent males Age 7 white females white adolescent females Age 7 black females 3-way tie: black adolescent females, white adolescent females, white female children Age 12 white males white adolescent females Age 12 black males white adolescent females Age 12 white females white adolescent females Age 12 black females white adolescent females Age 17 white males white adolescent females Age 17 black males white adolescent females Age 17 white females white adolescent females Age 17 black females white adolescent females Adult white males white adolescent females Adult black males white adolescent females Adult white females white adolescent males Adult black females white adolescent females FACT #47: In experiments in which Black children have been left to themselves with White and Black dolls, it has been found tha most of the them would rather play with White dolls. This is true all over the world. Even in such places as Tobago. (32) (22) (23) AMERICAN HISTORY FACT #48: The Declaration of Independence, which contains the oft-repeated phrase ". . . all men are created equal . . ." was written by Thomas Jefferson, who owned about 200 slaves at the time and never set any of them free, including the mulattoes and quadroons. Jefferson's words certainly had no reference to Negroes, who at that time had no place in American society except as property. (27) (38) (31) FACT #49: The Constitution was written by and for 'We the people" and dedicated to "ourselves and our posterity," All of the 55 delegates that met in Philadelphia to draft the Constitution and all of the members of the 13 state conventions that ratified it were of the White race. (38) WEBSTER'S DICTIONARY OF 1828 defines Posterity as: POSTERITY. 1. Descendants; children, children's children, etc. indefinitely; the race that proceeds from a progenitor. 2. In a general sense, succeeding generations; opposed to ancestors. . . FACT #50: The 14th Amendment is invalid for the following reasons: -It was never ratified by three-fourth of all the States in the Union according to Article 5 of the U.S. Constitution. Out of 37 States, 16 had rejected it. -Many of the States who were counted as ratifying it, were compelled to do so under duress of military occupation. Any legal act entered into under force duress, and coercion is automatically null and void. -The fact that 23 Senators had been unlawfully excluded from the U.S. Senate, shows that the Joint Resolution proposing the Amendment was not submitted to or adopted by a constitutional Congress. -The intent of the 14th Amendment is repugnant to the original U.S. Constitution and the Organic Law of the land. It did not, and could not, repeal anything that was part of the Organic Law. Therefore the principles of precedent and stare decisis render it void. (23) FACT #51: In Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation of Sept. 1862 he said: "I have urged the colonization of the Negroes, (back to Africa), and I shall continue. My Emancipation Proclamation was linked with this plan (of colonization). There is no room for two distinct races of White men in America, much less for two distinct races of Whites and Blacks. . . . I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of the negro into our social and political life as our equal . . . Within twenty years we can peacefully colonize the Negro . . . under conditions in which he can rise to the full measure of manhood. This he can never do here. We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable." (27) FACT #52: Lincoln actually proposed an amendment to the constitution that would've authorized congress to recolonize all freed Blacks back to Africa. On Aug. 15, l962, Congress did appropriate over half a million dollars for that purpose. Thousands of Negroes had been shipped back when Lincoln was shot. (27) WASHINGTON D.C. FACT #53: The District of Columbia, which is approximately 70% Black, leads the U.S. in many areas: - The nations highest crime rates - Strictest gun control - Highest incarceration rates - Highest birthrate - Highest death rate - Highest rate of federal assistance per capita - Highest number of welfare recipients per capita - Highest rate of illegitimacy - Highest high school dropout rate even though its teachers are the highest paid in the U.S. - Highest rate of ghonnorrhea and syphilis - Highest incidence of AIDS (33) (32) PORTUGAL FACT #54: Populated by White stock, the nation of Portugal rose in four centuries to be the wealthiest most powerful country in the world. A great commercial and maritime power, it had large colonies in Asia, Africa, and America. Its seamen were the first to explore western Africa and they brought back hundreds of Negro slaves. By 1550, at the height of Portugal's power, one-tenth of its population were Blacks. Today, Portugal's population is described as one of the most homogeneous in Europe, having slowly absorbed the Negro gene pool. As of l975 it had lost all of its outside territories. Its workers are the lowest paid in Europe and they have the highest rate of illiteracy and a high infant mortality rate. In terms of art, literature, music, science and philosophy the "new" Portugal has produced virtually nothing in 100 years and by most standards is the most backward nation in Europe. *Keep in mind that the Black population of the U.S. is approximately 13%. (27) HAITI FACT #55: The Republic of Haiti, the only completely Black republic in the Western Hemisphere also happens to be the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere. It also has the lowest life expectancy, highest illiteracy, lowest per capita consumption of newsprint, lowest per capita GNP, and the lowest level of political stability. (27) FACT #56: Haiti once had a promising future. Before 1789 as a French colony under White rule, San Domingo (Haiti) was as rich or richer in productivity as all the 13 American Colonies combined. It was considered the "crown jewel" of the French colonial system, and was in fact the most prosperous colony anywhere in the world. Populated by 40,000 Whites, 27,000 freed Mulattoes, and 450,000 Black slaves and with a bountiful climate and productive soil, it supplied all of France and half of Europe with sugar, coffee, and cotton. But in 1791, the French government issued a decree ordering Haiti to give the vote to the Mulattoes, and soon after another ordering freedom for all the slaves. This resulted in a bloody civil war in which the entire White population (about 40,000 Frenchmen) was murdered, down to the last man, woman, and child. Rape, decapitation, and mutilation were committed almost universally upon their bodies. (22) (23) FACT #57: After the Blacks massacred the last of the White population in 1804, Haiti remained a part of Santa Domingo, until 1844 when it became a separate "republic." Between 1844 and 1915 only one Haitian president completed his term in office. Fourteen were ousted by armed uprisings, one was blown up, one was poisoned and another was hacked to pieces by a mob. Between 1908 and 1915 the revolutions and assassinations increased so rapidly that a United States military occupation was needed to restore order. This lasted from 1915 to 1934. Thereafter followed twelve years of rule by a Mulatto elite which ended in the resumption of control by the Black military in 1946. Since then wholesale corruption and political murder have been the rule. (23) INDIA FACT #58: India's Negroid peoples have been subjected to numerous White invasions for over 5000 years, prompting the rise and fall of one civilization after another as the White invaders became absorbed into the non-White masses. Then, about 1800 B.C. Aryans again invaded from the northwest, this time establishing a rigid caste ("varna." meaning color) system of White supremacy which eventually evolved into an integral part of the Hindu religion. Interracial mixing was banned and punishable by death. (5) (37) FACT #59: Led by an Aryan ruling class, Classical India blossomed into a great culture, giving expression to philosophy, poetry, science, mathematics, and literature. The land prospered as never before --or after. FACT #60: The caste system lasted about 2,000 years (probably longer than any civilization under similar racial circumstances.) However, eventually the castes broke down due to miscegenation and by modern times virtually no pure Whites were remaining. (39) (37) (10) FACT #61: Today, India has 834 million people who speak 150 different languages and dialects. When the annual rainfall is insufficient, they die of starvation at a rate of 2,000,000 to 6,000,000 per year. India has the highest birthrate in Asia, one of the lowest per capita incomes in the world, and an illiteracy rate close to 70%. (35) (33) EGYPT FACT #62: Ancient Egypt was founded and built by Mediterranean Caucasians as far back as 4500 B.C. Egypt's period of greatness was from 3400 B.C. to 1800 B.C. and was characterized by its amazing architecture, pyramids, temples, and mastery of mathematics and engineering, the remnants of which are still evident today. The White Egyptians pioneered medicine, chemistry, astronomy, and law; In many cases, their achievements remain unequalled. (37) (39) (21) FACT #63: But, about 3400 B.C. Egypt civilization began to spread up the Nile River, bringing it in close contact with the black Nubians to the south. Soon they were using Blacks for slave labor and Egypt became history's first melting pot. (39) (10) (14) FACT # 64: In time the infusion of Negro blood worked itself up from the bottom of Egyptian society. The slaves were eventually freed, received political equality, and took posts of authority in government. (10) (37) FACT #65: By the time of King Tut (1370-1352 B.C.) even the ruling classes had been mongrelized and Egypt began a tailspin downward. Today, the once-mighty Egypt is very much a Third World country, having lost its art, its medicine, its architectural ability, and its position in world affairs. (10) (37) The absurd notion that Ancient Egypt was a product of Negro ingenuity is now being widely disseminated in the schools. Though scholars know this is a blatant lie, they justify the deception by assuming it will boost the "self-esteem" of Black children. SOUTH AFRICA (Note: These facts will most likely change drastically now that South Africa has fallen under black rule.) FACT #66: White people have lived in South Africa much longer than Negroes. There have been White settlements in South Africa for over 300 years, about the same length of time Europeans have lived in North America. Even 150 years after the first colonies around Capetown, at the beginning of the 19th Century, there still were no Blacks within 500 miles. The Blacks wandered in from central Africa later on, possibly fleeing the slave trade or due to famine. In fact, most of South Africa's Blacks were born in other countries. (29) (8) (14) FACT #67: South Africa is by far the wealthiest and most advanced country in Africa, producing nearly 75% of the continent's Gross National Product. It is almost completely self- sufficient so boycotts have little affect upon its economy. In fact most of Africa is dependent upon South Africa. South Africa is governed by a Western parliamentary republic and strictly segregated racially. South Africa grants complete self-government to the Blacks in their own areas of the country. (29) (8) (14) FACT #68: Though South Africa is perpetually criticized by the world press for its racial separatism, its Blacks live better than the Blacks of any other African country and are multiplying rapidly and healthily. 87% of Black welfare costs are being paid by the White man. This includes food, clothing, training, housing, education an health care. --even old age pensions. (14) FACT #69: Thousands of South African Blacks graduate from college every year, more than three times as many as in the rest of Africa combined. Every Black child is within walking distance of a primary school. Africa's largest hospital, which serves Blacks almost exclusively and performs over 1800 operations per month, is in South Africa. (14) FACT #70: The Blacks of South Africa own more cars than do all the citizens of the Soviet Union. (29) FACT #71: South Africa has more Black doctors, lawyers, professional people, and millionaires than all of the rest of the world combined. (8) FACT #72: In fact, conditions are "so bad" for Blacks in South Africa that the country has a tremendous problem with illegal Black immigration, having over one million illegal foreign workers. (14) (29) ICELAND FACT #73-75: Iceland, the only all-White nation in the world, has the world's highest literacy rate. 100%. It is an island of cooled volcanic magma, located Just south of the Arctic Circle. It has no coal, no fuel, no timber, no mineral wealth or natural resources, and no navigable rivers. 75% of the interior is uninhabitable and only about 1% of the land is arable. It is the youngest nation in Europe and one of the most isolated countries in the world. Nonetheless, Iceland is #2 in the world in life expectancy and has one of the world's highest standards of living, in terms of per capita income. It has tremendous medical facilities and a thriving publishing business. Virtually every family has a telephone. Upon graduation from high school, each Icelandic student has learned five languages. (33) MARTIN LUTHER KING FACT #75-77: On Jan. 31, 1977, Martin Luther King's FBI records were sealed by court order until the year 2027 because, as his wife said, "its release would destroy his reputation" These records are rumored to contain instances of bizarre sexual perversion and homosexuality, and proof that King was under the direct orders of Soviet spies and financed by the Communist Party. FACT #78: The Wall Street Journal (Nov.9, 1990) disclosed that Stanford University editors of The Papers of Martin Luther King Jr. have long known that King was guilty of plagiarism in his l955 Boston University doctoral thesis, having lifted significant portions from the works of other writers and graduate students. FACT #79: Martin Luther King frequently enjoyed prostitutes and paid for them with his church's money. Still, congress has voted to make King's birthday a national holiday, in most places replacing Columbus Day or Washington's Birthday as an official observance. FACT #80: Almost every state in the union has a King holiday, and almost every city has a King Boulevard or King Civic Center. Yet the electoral evidence suggests that Americans will almost always vote down honors for King when given a chance. (41) MISCELLANEOUS FACT #81: The entire continent of Africa, perhaps Earth's richest land, accounts for only 3% of world trade. (27) FACT #82-84: Almost all Blacks who have been leaders in fields other than athletics or music have had some White ancestry: Fredick Douglas, W.E.B. Dubois, Booker T. Washington, George Washington Carver, Alex Hailey, Thurgood Marshall, Bryant Gumbell, Colin Powell, Carl Rowan, Ed Bradley, Doug Wilder, etc. According to Dr. E.B. Reuter, ". . . Of successful and best known men that the Negro race has produced, at least thirteen- fourteenths are men of mixed blood. (27) (21) FACT #85: Blacks are 50 times more likely to have syphilis than Whites. (32) FACT #86: Twice as many Blacks as Whites receive dishonorable discharge from the U.S. military. (32) FACT #87: A White woman is 15 times more likely to contract AIDS by engaging in sex with a Negro than with a White heterosexual. (U.S. Centers for Disease Control) FACT #88: 90% of U.S. children with AIDS are Black or Hispanic. (36) FACT # 89-92: In l950, American schools were among the best in the world. However, vocal elements within our society demanded that the public schools take on a social engineering role as well as an educational one. Violent disruptions of American education were ordered by the Supreme Court for the purpose of breaking down racial barriers. For 30 years, American schools have diverted enormous resources into forced integration, quotas, and bussing operations. (Few people realize how expensive bussing is. Annual cost may run into tens of billions of dollars. In l990 California alone was spending $500 million per year on integration. Many school districts spend a quarter or more of their budgets on transportation. In Milwaukee alone and in a single school year, 30,000 staff hours were diverted into calculating the race of students to attend the various schools.) The results? Today's students rank at the very bottom worldwide in science and math, some 40% of American adults are functionally illiterate, and standardized test scores have declined steadily for both Whites and Blacks. Today the average White still scores 200 points higher on the combined SAT than the average Black. Americans spend more on education than any other country in the world and have the worst results. Massive White flight to escape racial zoning has reduced the tax base of every major American city. In l983, after nearly two generations of racial experimentation to promote equality, the research arm of the Dept. of Education could not produce a single study that showed Black children were learning appreciably better after desegregation. (25) (20) (32) FACT #93: In Black Africa the average ruler lasts 7 months. (22) (27) (7) FACT #94: By 1995, a third of U.S. students will be non-Whites and Whites will be a minority in the school districts of 5 states. (32) FACT #95: Dr. William Shockley, Nobel prize winner for his work in the invention of the transistor and renowned geneticist as Stanford University, said, "The major cause for American Negroes' hereditary is origin and thus not remedial to a major degree by improvement in environment." FACT #96: In 1930, about 33% of the world was White. Today, the U.N. estimates that only about 9.5% of the world's population is Caucasian. This percentage is falling rapidly. (34) (27) FACT #97: Every race has an equal capacity to learn and contribute to civilization and any differences are caused by prejudice and racism. The fact that white skins are associated with civilization is merely a quirk of fortune and coincidence. Any attempt to distinguish the races is motivated by paranoia and hatred. We must prevent any investigation into the subject and work to melt society together into a receless, nationless, harmonious utopia. (?) FACT #98: In 1988 there were 9,406 cases of Black-on-White rape and fewer than 10 cases of White on Black rape in the U.S. (32) FACT #99: For the book INTELLIGENCE AND NATIONAL ACHIEVEMENT, by Raymond Cattell, three distinguished American scholars compare massive evidence of national I.Q. score averages worldwide and warn against the decline of any nation whose population reflects declining intelligence. Taking into consideration the differential birthrates of American ethnic stocks, they concluded that American ability is declining rapidly. (21) FACT #100: The American taxpayers have spent over $2.5 TRILLION trying to upgrade Blacks since the l960's. (6) FACT #101: QUOTES "The Negroes' rude ignorance has never invented any effectual weapons of defense or destruction: they appear incapable of forming any extensive plans of government or conquest: and the obvious inferiority of their mental faculties has been discovered and abused by the nations of the temperate zone." --Edward Gibbon, the great historian and author of THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE, (V.III, pg. 277) "Wherever you find the Negro everything is going down around him, and wherever you find the White man you see everything around him improving." --Robert E. Lee, to Col. Thomas H. Carter, May, l965 ----------------- Recommended books for further study: * "The Origins of Race and Civilization" by Charles A. Weisman. $8.00 from Scriptures For America, P.O. Box 766-c, LaPorte, CO 80535. "The greatest controversies today seem to center around the races of man, the origin of which is battled over by two concepts - "evolutionism" and "creationism." But in all the debates, it is strange no one has suggested that BOTH of these concepts may be in error. It is the intent of this material to reveal the true origin and nature of the different races and civiliazations occording to 'immutable' evidence. In doing so it will be shown that both of the forenamed concepts are inconsistent and illogical in much of what they say, and that they both have been manipulated so as to produce the 'same' erroneous results regarding our origins." pg. 4 (preface) "Since God is the source of science as well as His Word recorded in the Bible, it is impossible for the two to be in conflict with one another." -pg. 5 "The word 'species' is in itself an anti-evolution term since the very meaning of the word refers to something specific and fixed." -pg. 9 "Natural selection and the survival of the fittest are natural processes, they are not evolutionary ones." -pg. 14 "Nature has a way of preventing cross mating between species and rejecting the hybrids that do occur." -pg. 18 " The Bible, verified by the geological record, reveals the pattern of creation God has used." -pg. 23 "All evidence available from comparative ethnology, linguistics, and prehistoric archaeology indicates a long seperation of the principal races of man." -pg. 38 "From the Egyptian monuments we know that there were various races of man in existence during the three centuries that followed the Flood." -pg. 55 "All scripture evidence indicates Adam was created a white man." -pg. 57 "Inequality and discrimination, like segregation, are Divine precepts." -pg 80 "The weight of scientific studies and research on the subject of the races of man seems to be in favor of classifying them as distinct species." - pg. 86 "Prolificacy of distinct species, inter se, is now proved to be no test of COMMON ORIGIN." -pg. 128 "A study of civilizations throughout history is a study of the history of the Adamic race - the builders of civilization." -pg 131. "3,000 years before the Europeans ever raised a single cathedral, their ancestors had already constructed pyramids in Egypt, Stonehenge in Britain, and palaces at Crete." -pg. 153 SOURCES ------- 1. African Business Magazine, Dec. '91 2. American Journal of Sociology, Vol. 92, pg 822+ 3. American Renaissance, Dec. '90, Box 2504, Menlo Park, CA 94026 4. American Sociological Review, Vol 45, pg. 859 5. Basham, A.L., The Wonder That Was India, Grove Press, New York, NY 1954 6. Buckley, William F. syndicated column, Jan. 5. 1993 7. "But What about Africa?" Harper's, May '90 8. "The Christian Heritage of South Africa Under Attack!", Peter Hammond, Herald the Coming, Dec. '92. 9. Coon, Carleton S. The Origin of Races, 1962, Alfred A. Knopf 10. Fagan, Myron C. How the Greatest White Nations Were Mongrelized - Then Negroized, Sons of Liberty Books. 11. Fields, Dr. Ed, The Dangers of Interracial Marriage, PO Box 1211, Marietta, GA 30061 12. Howells, William. Mankind So Far, Doubleday, Garden City, NY 1945. 13. Harris, Marvin, 1981. Why Nothing Works. Simon & Schuster, New York, NY 14. Jacob, A. White Man, Think Again! 1965, publ. by author. 15. Jensen, Arthur R. Bias in Mental Testing, The Free Press, New York 1980 16. Jensen, Arthur R. Straight Talk About Mental Tests, the Free Press. (Macmillan) New York, 1981 17. McCall's, May '92, pg 76 18. McGurk, Frank, "A Scientist's Report on Race Differences." U.S. News and World Report, Sept. 21, 1956. Washington, D.C. 19. Pearson, Roger, Eugenics and Race, 1966, Noontide Press 20. Pearson, Roger. Race, Intelligence, and Bias in Academe, Scott-Townsend Publishers, N.W. Washington, D.C. 21. Pendell, Elmer, Sex Versus Civilization, Noontide Press. 22. Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reason, 1961, Howard Allen Press, Cape Canaveral, FL 23. Putnam, Carleton. Race and Reality, a Search for Solutions, 1967, Howard Allen, Box 76, Cape Canaveral, FL 32920 24. Putnam, Carleton. A Study in Racial Realities, an address at the University of California at Davis, Dec. 17, 1964 25. Scott, Ralph. Education and Ethnicity: The U.S. Experiment in School Integration, Scott-Townsend. Washington, D.C. 1989 26. Shuey, Audrey H., The Testing of Negro Intelligence, Social Science Press, New York, 1966 27. Simpson, William Gayley. Which Way Western Man? 1978, National Alliance Press, Box 3535, Washington, D. C. 20007 28. Social Forces, Vol. 69, pg.1+, Sept. '90 29. "South Africa: Time to Choose Sides" Soldier of Fortune, Dec. '89. 30. Snyderman, Mark, and Rothman, Stanely. The IQ Controversy, the Media and Public Policy. Transaction Publishers, New Brunswick, NJ 1990. 31. Stell v Savannah-Chattham County Board of Education, U.S. District Court, Southern Georgia, May 13, 1963. 32. Taylor, Jared, Paved with Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America. 1992, Carrol & Graf. New York, NY 33. World Almanacs, '88, '89, '90, '91, '92 34 United Nations World Census, 1990 35. Van Loon, Henrick, 1940, Van Loon's Geography, Garden City Publ. 36. The Voice, Feb. 27, 1990. 37. Waddell, L. A. The Makers of Civilization, 1929, Angriff Press, Hollywood, CA 38. Weisman, Charles A. America: Free, White and Christian, 1989, SFA, Box 766-c, LaPorte, CO 80535 39. Weisman, Charles A. The Origins of Race and Civilization, 1990, SFA 40. Weyl, Nathaniel. The Geography of American Achievement, Scott-Townsend, Washington, D.C. 1989. 41. Martin Luther King (Man Behind the Myth) by Des Griffin.
2019-05-18 10:39
Good post. No leftist will ever reply though because they deny the scientific facts about race, and any scientist who studies this nowadays will have his work repressed and his name tarnished.
2019-05-18 11:23
no leftist will every reply because why would anyone waste their time debunking a ridiculously long stormfront copypasta. the first few facts demonstrate that this person has absolutely 0 clue what they're talking about, and I'll reply demonstrating that now.
2019-05-18 17:24
+1, imagine wasting time on this white supremacist garbage
2019-05-19 02:41
It took me a gigantic post to even make a mediocre response to facts #1 and facts #2. Try asking an actual historian/anthropologist about fact #2, they will laugh in your face if you actually believe that shit is a good point. The amount of effort to debunk your flawed worldview is why people don't waste their time responding. And you won't change your mind at all, because this worldview is based on emotion, not real ideas.
2019-05-18 17:50
Reply to 139 then, it's significantly shorter and not a copypasta. Should be a lot easier to address if it is so clearly wrong. Btw mind is open to being changed if you have a good argument, race isn't real is not a good argument.
2019-05-19 03:12
2019-05-18 17:23
"Fact #1": The "white race" is not a meaningful term and has been constantly redefined, and usually those redefinitions are at a result of a group being "worthy" to be considered white. Race is a politically charged concept that results in conflating different groups of people in an arbitrary way based on melanin content. Are Jews white? Are the Irish white? Are Slavs white? At some point in time in the last 100 years the answers to those questions have changed. It seems you think Slavs are white, seeming as you cite their space travel as a "white accomplishment." Yet the same men you cite would not agree at all with your grouping them in with other ethnic groups because they're both "white." The Greeks had no concept of race. They had a concept of ethinicity. They liked North Africans a lot better than a lot of groups you would define as "white," as they thought those "whites" were classless barbarians. Oh how things change. If Aliens came here and decided to classify humans into groups, they certainly would not decide to use our definitions of race as their deciding factor. "Fact #2": Only 5 societies have ever created their own original written language, and they all had large scale agriculture, which was not feasible for non-northern African people. In terms of "not inventing anything," the general response to this stupid idea can be summarized in 3 ideas "They did invent things," "The inventions you think are basic are not at all, and very few societies developed them" and "those societies that developed those inventions had far more resources and circumstances with which to do so." This fact is riddled with errors, one hilarious one being your statement of "not even the wheel." Not even the wheel? LOL. AT BEST only two societies EVER have invented the wheel independently, and they had much more use for it than the extremely mountainous terrain in central Africa. But even more laughable is your "He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use (although many powerful and docile beasts abounded around him.) " point. This is the absolute easiest point to debunk and you should probably take it out of your regurgitated copypasta because it just makes the issues with your worldview really easy to illuminate. Even after the genius "white people" colonized the African continent, do you know how many new crops they used and new animals they domesticated? 0. Zebras aren't like horses dude, they fucking kill you. You know nothing about Africa. Almost all useful crops and animals in the world came from the fertile crescent, which is what resulted in the sharing of such things across Eurasia, and Eurasia being viewed as smarter than everyone else because they were so smart to use the resources they had unlike the Africans who did not have those same resources... At this point in the discussion, it should become obvious to you that you have no idea what I'm talking about. You don't know what the fertile crescent is. You didn't know that "white people" have never domesticated in a useful way anything the Africans couldn't do themselves. So how about you go and learn something about history, and then come back and delete your post.
2019-05-18 17:49
Japan @0x0
Northern Africans at the time were Berbers, your argument is just hurr durr white race can't be defined >Only 5 societies have ever created their own original written language This isn't true, I can think of several off the top of my head. You're literally citing a Reddit post as a source lmao, fuck off I'm not going to take a reddit post as a source. >This is the absolute easiest point to debunk Debunk it then >Zebras aren't like horses dude, they fucking kill you Yet Zebras have been made docile in zoos. Several white men have had Zebras that serve similar roles as a horse in transportation, such as Walter Rothchild and George Grey Horace Hayes had worked on domesticating the Zebra and had decent progress on it. The German army rode Zebras Here's a man showjumping with a Zebra
2019-05-19 13:37
>Northern Africans at the time were Berbers, your argument is just hurr durr white race can't be defined Yea the fact that "white people" is an arbitrary and ever-changing concept based on which societies succeed and which fail is a pretty good argument against this idea of a monolithic white race. The only thing that connects a lot of different groups of "white people" is skin tone. >This isn't true, I can think of several off the top of my head. It is true. CREATED THEIR OWN WRITTEN LANGUAGE. Not gotten written language FROM ANOTHER SOCIETY. >You're literally citing a Reddit post as a source lmao, fuck off I'm not going to take a reddit post as a source. It's from a verified historian. As valid as any book written by a historian. Not an argument. Zebras are known for only being domesticated very rarely and not on a wide scale. You obviously did not have any prior knowledge on this subject and just googled it, if you asked anyone who knew about the subject they would tell you Zebras are not usefully domesticated in any meaningful way. Domestication doesn't just mean an animal is domesticated, it means an entire population is, and zebras don't meet good domestication traits.
2019-05-19 14:48
Japan @0x0
>Yea the fact that "white people" is an arbitrary and ever-changing concept based on which societies succeed and which fail is a pretty good argument against this idea of a monolithic white race. The only thing that connects a lot of different groups of "white people" is skin tone. So yes your argument is you can't define white, racism smashed, race isn't real in any way shape of form! >It is true. CREATED THEIR OWN WRITTEN LANGUAGE. Not gotten written language FROM ANOTHER SOCIETY. Alright what is gotten written language from another city? Braille Chinese Hieroglyphs Cuneiform Anatolian Hangul Brahmi Linear A >It's from a verified historian. As valid as any book written by a historian. Not an argument. It's a reddit post, why does this "verified historian" need to use reddit to communicate and not a reputable publisher? Probably because they're some guy who barely managed to get a history degree and that's all they have to their name. >Zebras are known for only being domesticated very rarely and not on a wide scale. Why would Zebras be domesticated on wide scale when Horses already have been? Same reasons wolves haven't been domesticated.
2019-05-20 05:35
2019-05-19 02:13
politics are for fags and idiots. why are u concerned about something u have 0 influence on?
2019-05-18 13:34
Netherlands BigMarvin
Yo mama so fat she become a communist state
2019-05-18 17:30
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