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flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
Is all of Flushas fishy VAC-shots cheating or just gamesense? My guess is gamesense. Check nade damage statistics: Flusha has 8,5 nade damage per round, higher than any other pro I have checked. HE-nades and mollys are thrown based on game-sense. Surely cheats can be used to give the player an idea of where the opponents are without aimlock, but still I think this statistics is showing that Flushas gamesense is remarkably high. Other players nade damage per round (all time, all matches): flusha 8,5 coldzera 2,2 S1mple: 2,0 Niko: 3,4 Device: 4,1 Magisk: 5,0 Dupreeh: 2,6 Forest: 2,9 Zywoo: 3,6 Twistzz: 3,3 Also, another thing. Of all the pro players in the scene, there will always be one guy with the most fishy plays. If it was not Flusha, it would be someone else, like S1mple's wallbangs or JasonR's spraytransfers. And then every play of that guy would be scrutinized, Think about Xypex and his clutch ability, how it is beyond comprehension. And the imagine a guy with the same extreme game-sense. Of course there will be fishy wallhacks and spray transfers in his games. No, I'm not sure. He could be cheating. But I don't think he is.
2019-05-18 20:29
#1
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Ukraine volanchick 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:32
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:33
#3
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Europe XXXPAK1 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:33
#4
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Palestine FREE_PALESTINE 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:34
#5
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Estonia badbait0r 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:37
#6
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
God flusha
2019-05-18 20:38
+1
2019-05-20 17:36
jasPOGR
2019-05-18 20:39
#39
oof | 
Montenegro Fraggot 
+1 but nordavind bad team
2019-05-18 22:38
wtf men))
2019-05-19 11:40
#8
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Poland Lukovsky 
internet explorer spotted
2019-05-18 20:39
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:40
#10
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Portugal MR_CAL 
anyone that thinks that flusha is cheating is just dumb af
2019-05-18 20:40
get ready for the people with tinfoil hats
2019-05-18 20:42
As a tinfoil hat user I agree with him. Don't think we're idiots thx
2019-05-18 21:36
Underrated comment
2019-05-19 20:51
#33
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
anyone that thinks that flusha is cheating has just drastically lower iq than flusha
2019-05-18 21:49
Talking about iq with that grammar.
2019-05-22 00:04
#113
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United States TeasinTrio 
IMAGINE GRAMMAR SHAMING 2019 OMEGALUL
2019-05-22 00:14
Only shaming shamers.
2019-05-22 00:27
#115
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Oh look, we got a grammar nazi here.
2019-05-22 01:06
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 20:41
jasonr spray transfers lmfao he's playing against bots in solidarity bot league
2019-05-18 20:43
+99999999999 LUL
2019-05-18 20:46
#20
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Poland wiktorex 
still sick spraytransfers
2019-05-18 20:49
#25
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Ngl when i see his highlights i wonder why he isnt a pro
2019-05-18 21:28
He already been a pro, said it was to much traveling and no bitches
2019-05-18 21:32
#40
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Ty for explanation
2019-05-18 22:39
#41
oof | 
Montenegro Fraggot 
No solidarity in the teams he was in
2019-05-18 22:40
#34
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Ppl keep forgetting that the difference between tier1 and whatever tier is solidarity is not about personal or aim skill, but about tactics and igl calls which has nothing to do with his mechanical skills/knowledge about spraying/"transfering".
2019-05-18 21:53
Tier 1 in only top 1 team in hltv
2019-05-18 22:36
#14
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
i think he's just played too many matches and been to too many events for admins to not find his hacks if he was hacking
2019-05-18 20:46
You know that isn't a logical conclusion, right? You aren't actually that stupid? The question is if he ever hacked, not if he is hacking all the time. The answer isn't binary between 1.Flusha always hacks and 2. He has never hacked.
2019-05-20 02:58
#95
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
i mean maybe, but from the fnatic games i've watched from 2015 to 2019 his overall skill and gamesense that i think people mistake for walls has stayed pretty constant. if he stopped or started hacking, wouldn't we see a sudden jump up or down in percieved skill?
2019-05-20 17:34
Wow, mate. You are actually that dumb. Most of his suspicious clips came before 2015. And he has had an overt dropoff in performance over the last year and a half. Not saying that dropoff had anything to do with him ever cheating, it just proves how inept you are as a critical thinker.
2019-05-21 00:05
Chill bro he admitted you had a point and at the end of the day his own point wasn't totally wrong since flusha did get a lot of suspicious clips under supervision of admins. I can't believe I'm taking the side of a brit..
2019-05-21 00:15
"I have watched him from 2015-2019" "Almost all of his clips are from before that period, though." ??? If you think he had ANYTHING even RESEMBLING a point, you have just ousted yourself as a fucking vapid cretin. How do people like you two manage to function? I honestly cannot fathom how the world works if you two are examples of what an average intellect can come up with. How the fuck is him saying that many admins have watched him play a point? OF FUCKING COURSE admins watched him play and he was never convicted. Do you really think admins do that much? Lance Armstrong was "under supervision" of the entire fucking world mate, and it took them years after the fact for the news that he was doping to come out to the public. It's not perfectly analogous, but even that hyperbolic bullshit I just spewed out makes more sense than you. Seriously, how is "Many admins have watched him play, he cannot be cheating." a point?
2019-05-21 02:38
#102
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
firstly mate, chill out; this is a discussion on a site about a VIDEO GAME. I never said that it was impossible for him to have been/to be cheating and not get caught, i just said that it was extremely unlikely considering how closely watched he is especially due to his 'suspicious clips'
2019-05-21 16:17
Are you underage or do you have a learning disability?
2019-05-21 18:41
#105
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
my handwriting is almost unreadable when written at any reasonable speed, if you consider that a learning difficulty. If not, then no.
2019-05-21 19:27
Brother, you can admit it here, I won't judge you. You practically confirmed it in your previous posts, anyway.
2019-05-21 23:11
#117
NiKo | 
United Kingdom lr1015 
> run out of arguments > begin the insults > americans.png
2019-05-22 20:05
You haven't argued anything either, you made several different points that don't build, or even correlate with each other. Saying that admins exist and he is "closely watched" are non-arguments and frankly, not even relevant. The question is if he ever hacked. You have failed to understand this several times now.
2019-05-23 04:21
Lmao! The fact that you put players under supervision of admins on LAN makes it less likely to actually have cheaters. That's it. That doesn't mean there isn't cheaters that just means it's harder to cheat. The simple fact that you are using the exemple of Lance fucking Armstrong just proves you are the one lacking logical thinking here. You American nerds are the best.
2019-05-22 15:40
Either there is a language barrier here or you are seriously mentally inept. I just asked how admin "supervision" is a point. You aren't arguing anything. You are stating a known detail, like it's at all persuasive. Let me try to explain my point to you, as simply and succinctly as possible. -He says that he doubts Flusha could have cheated, having played many tournaments -I point out that is CLEARLY moronic and juvenile thinking, as NO ONE says he still cheats, and cheats every game -you proceed to say "yeah but he had a point, that there are admins watching him play" -I try to explain to you that a clever human could work around any admin "supervision", and that is a complete non-argument, because the question is whether he cheated, not whether you (random pleb) thinks it's possible to cheat on lan in 2019 -This hurts your precious ego Do you understand now, how your comments are throwaway drivel, lacking any substance? I love how people who are obviously out of their depth, in any form of discourse, always proceed to posture. Is this cognitive dissonance kicking in?
2019-05-23 04:18
"Point: noun; an idea, opinion, or piece of information that is said or written" I think that yes we have a language barrier here: you have a hard time understanding yours. I must add that we have a fairly good exemple here of what the American system often provides the world: loud people that think they know it all. So once again, in simple words: his point was that a person under the supervision of admins for a long time is less likely to have cheated. Period And there is absolutely no need to try to write fucking novels thinking it makes you smart, sry bro it just makes you a big nerd on a Counter Strike forum. Had a good laugh with you tho. Cya
2019-05-23 18:34
"i mean maybe, but from the fnatic games i've watched from 2015 to 2019 his overall skill and gamesense that i think people mistake for walls has stayed pretty constant. if he stopped or started hacking, wouldn't we see a sudden jump up or down in percieved skill?" This was his point, though. Sorry to dismantle your entire ego like that.
2019-05-23 23:30
flusha g0d
2019-05-18 20:48
#17
sergej | 
Finland jUPPE! 
Flusha has like 150 IQ. That's why everybody thought hew was cheating.
2019-05-18 20:48
his most suspicious and fishy "aimlock" was already debunked because you could see him move his mouse quickly in the cam in sync.
2019-05-18 20:48
#19
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Poland wiktorex 
ye wallbangs are fishy hehe
2019-05-18 20:49
ofc its a known fact that flusha is the smartest player in the world
2019-05-18 20:50
#22
Dio | 
Japan Jotaro 
Flusha just better /closed
2019-05-18 21:24
LOL comparing jr to flusha and s1mple
2019-05-18 21:25
#82
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
+1 Flusha is way better
2019-05-20 00:20
#99
flusha | 
Sweden T1mmy^ 
Lol he is not comparing, he is just saying that hes spraytransfer can seem fishy like some of flushas plays. Obv Flusha is better the fuck.
2019-05-21 00:11
#24
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Israel wetz 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 21:28
#27
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Other wtf_men 
He might have been cheating a few years ago, no one will ever know. But he's definitely not cheating now. Further, he's been known for years to be one of the best (if not THE best) utility user individually. Which is absolutely thanks to his great game sense.
2019-05-18 21:36
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 21:40
Flusha is the best player men) i love him
2019-05-18 21:40
#31
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Other khorkalba 
Flusha doesn't even have the fishiest clips imo. Shox, Niko and s1mple all have worse clips.
2019-05-18 21:45
Some stats to add about players whom I thought may have huge damages per round. Flusha is very good but your list is shit btw. You need to consider IGLs and support for it. kennyS- 3.3 dmg/round gob b- 6 dmg/round GeT_RiGhT - 4.2 dmg/round NBK- 3.4 dmg/round kioshima- 4.6 dmg/round Olof - 4.6 dmg/round Zeus - 5.5 dmg/round pronax- 4 dmg/round gla1ve- 5.7 dmg/round xyp9x- 6.0 dmg/round
2019-05-18 21:47
#37
flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
Flusha hasn't always been IGL, but well. He is still highest by far:)
2019-05-18 22:23
C'mon dude we all know that most probably players who will be good with nades will be IGLs and supports and some of them are extraordinary. Like Flusha. He always had the most superior game sense. Can't say that about s1mple or cold. They might be very good players but they aren't good at tossing nades. You need that nading ability plus game sense to have 4+ dmg/round.
2019-05-19 10:17
I agree the nade damage is an impressive stat, but does it really mean he has the best gamesense? What bout how many clutches won etc?
2019-05-19 10:31
I think it means more gamesense than clutches won. Simply because if you don't have great aim, you can't always flank from behind of every player in a 1v3,1v4 situation. I don't think anyone has better game sense than IGLs and Flusha of course. These guys know perfect movements of their opponents. Now if you check their clutches won, you'll find it to be lesser than that of cold,niko,s1mple,etc but they've superior gamesense.
2019-05-19 10:35
s1mple has superior gamesense to any igl if you ask me
2019-05-19 10:43
Oh c'mon. Don't make fangirlish comments.
2019-05-19 10:45
where else would his strong perfomance and high clutch stats come from? ofc gamesense plays a role there, and I think its why he was often fighting (or still is) with zeus for example
2019-05-19 10:50
What? So clutches come only from gamesense. ok nt kid. You need to hit shots too. Most IGLs fail to do so.
2019-05-19 10:52
I said it plays a role, does that mean it comes only from gamesense? nt kid. 🤦
2019-05-19 10:54
lol so why do you even tell about clutches. Because clutches require a lot more so they're not a proper stat to check for gamesense.
2019-05-19 10:57
#35
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United States jay_320 
Flusha very well may have been cheating in the early years. I highly doubt he has if he ever did since 2015 or so however. Let's not act like it's out of the realm of possibility he once did however. He has the most shady early clips of any well known pro.
2019-05-18 21:53
#43
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Sweden swediztann3 
no slim shady is the shady flusha is in the shadow idiot
2019-05-18 22:46
what did i just read
2019-05-19 20:54
Let's not act like he was possibly cheating because of some fishy clips at the peak of his career.
2019-05-19 10:27
#63
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United States jay_320 
*some* fishy clips. lol
2019-05-19 18:30
really some clips are only fishy if you lack the intelligence to explain them
2019-05-19 20:43
#78
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United States jay_320 
I guess I lack the intelligence then.
2019-05-20 00:00
show me a clip and i will explain (except the inferno short flick)
2019-05-20 00:30
#88
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United States jay_320 
Honestly bro I'm not all that interested in re-litigating Flusha's clips. I'm just saying he has a lot of fishy clips and we know pros cheated a lot more when the scene was small. He may not have cheated. Subroza may not have cheated. Who the fuck knows. To deny that the clips are out there though is in my opinion sticking your head in the sand. Either way he's one of the best players to ever play. I'm not suggesting in any way that we ought to try and punish Flusha for five year old clips.
2019-05-20 01:25
Top pros usually have an obsession and a strong mentality, such mentality can only stem from your own achievements. pride would prevent them from doing it, as such I am fairly certain flusha and most others were clean. Even money is less important than actually winning to them. Whereas the only reasonable motivation for a cheater would be money, in no way can he declare himself to be the best with a clear consciousness.
2019-05-20 02:10
#90
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United States jay_320 
You very well may be 100% right. I hope you are as Flusha is one of the pros admire the most. Either way. He has some fishy fucking clips. I don't know what else to say here. The community both public and from the analytical side all agree on that point. Whether or not he ever experimented with or used cheats we will probably never know so I don't even really see the point in arguing it as I said above.
2019-05-20 02:20
I don't usually believe in magic except when it comes to counterstrike.
2019-05-20 02:33
jason has just sick spray and he is playing against way lower skilled players.
2019-05-18 21:55
#42
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Sweden swediztann3 
ofcurse its cheats you can not habe gamesense in computter game¤!½"¤!"¤!¤"!½¤½!
2019-05-18 22:46
#44
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Turkey Experium 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-18 22:53
flusha without cheats is a fucking cancer
2019-05-18 22:56
hltv user without brain is a fucking cancer
2019-05-19 10:31
+1
2019-05-19 20:55
#51
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Denmark Xipingu 
Flag checks out
2019-05-19 10:35
+1
2019-05-19 10:33
yup he uses gamesense as cheat
2019-05-19 10:37
#56
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United States kami917 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-19 10:48
#64
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India LodFresa 
Guilty until Proven otherwise, but i don't have the resources to prove or agree, so i will take the worst possible outcome and incline my opinion to him being a possible cheater
2019-05-19 18:34
#65
flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
Lol, the rest of the world is not like India ;)
2019-05-19 20:40
#66
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India LodFresa 
often, its a racial abuse if there are no arguments to be made :)
2019-05-19 20:43
innocent until proven guilty* we are not in india my friend, this is the free world
2019-05-19 20:44
#69
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India LodFresa 
im pessimistic
2019-05-19 20:44
#70
JW | 
United Kingdom Hamshanks 
Its not about pessimism or your own personal opinion, its about morals and justice which arent linked to personal feelings
2019-05-19 20:49
thats not pessimistic, that is denial of an international human right
2019-05-19 20:49
#91
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Poland Ktav 
Fuk off
2019-05-20 02:29
#75
SpawN | 
Austria vaekos 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-19 20:57
#76
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United States @FyreCS 
Very nice read tbh, thanks for info men)))
2019-05-19 21:01
#85
flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
Your welcome
2019-05-20 00:28
insane gamesense
2019-05-19 21:15
#79
Netherlands itsm 
WHy is jasonr in the same topic as the likes of flusha and coldzera..
2019-05-20 00:05
#84
flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
Because I recently saw some clips with quite fishy spray transfer. Yes I know indeed he is in a completely different league. Point is if it wasn’t Flusha then it would be someone else who would be mr. VAC, but a lot of people here seem to be to immature to understand that :)
2019-05-20 00:27
#80
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Germany Chivezz 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-20 00:08
Is this 2015?
2019-05-20 00:19
Are u saying magisk better than anyone in this list judging by gamesense?
2019-05-20 00:27
#86
flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
[Iinsert Cathy Newman meme]
2019-05-20 00:30
#93
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Mexico BasicN1ga 
Floosha to smert pls cum beck
2019-05-20 02:40
he is the goat of csgo
2019-05-21 00:07
#103
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Yugoslavia PoglavaR 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-21 16:20
#106
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Poland p4sheko 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-21 19:39
#108
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Jason tier1 r
2019-05-21 23:14
#109
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Turkey Buryy0 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-21 23:14
They have tried since late 2014 without any real proof or progress. Hail señor vac!
2019-05-22 00:00
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-22 00:08
idiot dog he knows where they are so he throws grenade to do some damage so he can get easier kill are u idiot OP?
2019-05-23 04:23
#121
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Belgium sniperou001 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-23 04:25
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-23 04:28
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-23 04:30
#126
jOELZ | 
Faroe Islands staxus 
flusha has a good gamesence and a solid small dick
2019-05-23 23:31
#127
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Poland dailyy 
Jas OMEGALUL nR
2019-05-23 23:33
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