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tfue vs faze POLL
Bolivia edenhassard 
who is right and what side are u on go strawpoll.com/4z2913bb
2019-05-21 13:50
#1
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Netherlands installwizard 
never trust a fortnite player thats the golden rule here
2019-05-21 13:51
#2
cyx | 
South Africa bonkaz 
+1
2019-05-21 13:51
#9
Hiko | 
Brazil renanmalta 
++ Faze legendary org tfue, rich kid who for the first time is knowing how business works and became scared like a fcking bitch
2019-05-21 14:04
+1
2019-05-21 16:52
#185
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World Nastradoomus 
Both are two faced lying cunts.
2019-05-22 17:18
nah, faze did nothing wrong
2019-05-22 17:30
They did Undrage drinking and lying about ages and shit That's wrong but like fuck it Underage drinking is so common not worth it Other shit he said about faze is probably fake
2019-05-23 17:22
damn, you got baited HARD
2019-05-23 21:35
#71
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Other xrist 
legendary org? rofl
2019-05-22 11:39
no?
2019-05-22 13:34
One of the most well known orgs in e-sports... been around since the beginning of times. Wtf are you on about
2019-05-22 14:29
#104
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Other xrist 
faze clan was a trickshotting group from the beginning and was founded in 2008... ROFL, SK Gaming was founded in 1997, NiP 2000 that's legendary.
2019-05-22 14:31
Nip is obviously legendary. But calling SK Gaming a legendary org because it was founded in 1997 is so retarded even a swede should know it. You even had to google info about said org to comment here lmfao. If you think SK Gaming is a legendary org compared to faze you're a delusional retard with 2 braincells. Which makes sense since you're a swede
2019-05-22 14:35
#108
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Other xrist 
what? heaton played in sk gaming, thats why i know its old lol
2019-05-22 14:38
He played in SK from 2002 to 2004 so you googled i think. PS: Would you call aAa legendary then ?
2019-05-22 15:16
LOL dude how isnt SK not legendary you dont know what youre on about sry bro but maybe inform you better just of top of my mind. -Legendary old cs lineups( especially 2003 lineup HeatoN, elemeNt, Potti, SpawN, fisker, ahl) -The massive dominant fifa twins, no match -The legendary Phayton in pes -The god of quake, Rapha just what im thinking in the fly so tell me how thats not legendary
2019-05-22 15:24
#207
2019-05-23 14:12
#127
suNny | 
Finland jakem0n 
+1
2019-05-22 15:25
#133
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Other xrist 
i brought up sk gaming because they actually won a major and is an old org...
2019-05-22 15:36
FaZe won majors in COD too though.
2019-05-22 15:43
#139
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Other xrist 
has cod ever had a large viewership though?
2019-05-22 15:44
are you really asking this question ?
2019-05-22 15:46
swede got upset men(((
2019-05-22 16:27
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Other xrist 
How many live viewers at cod's peak?
2019-05-22 18:39
COD's peak was when streamming and esport wasn't mainstream like it is now, i still remember login in a early Twitch.tv and seeing 50k+ for the BO2 and MW3 MLG weeklies
2019-05-23 07:40
you are so delusional its starting to annoy bro like you you really think FaZe is better than SK. Fnatic >>>> FaZe, Fnatic dominated many games too like battlefield they almost everytime made it to finals like SK, THE REAL RILVARY SK VS Fnatic NIP >>FaZe SK >>>>FaZe SK also faking DONINATED in women CS btw with Fnatic
2019-05-22 17:49
i never said it was better i said FaZe Clan is legendary in his own way... of course Fnatic Sk NIP >>> FaZe but FaZe still represent an era in gaming you like it or not. so before you get on your high horses learn to read
2019-05-23 07:44
#203
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Other xrist 
But you basically said sk was shit and not an legendary org,like what
2019-05-23 09:28
where did i say that ? Quote me ?
2019-05-23 09:34
#205
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Other xrist 
But calling SK Gaming a legendary org because it was founded in 1997 is so retarded even a swede Didn't say just because of 1997
2019-05-23 09:35
so we moved Norway to France then ? and i ranamed to turboleifern ! I guess you learn something new everyday
2019-05-23 09:36
#208
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Other xrist 
Oh it was the other dude saying that, srry
2019-05-23 09:37
Wait hold the fuck up, Heaton was in SK from 2002-2004, meaning there was already an E-sports team for SK by 2000 (I don't know much of them). Therefore they really are legendary. FaZe clan was made like 10 years ago how does that make them legendary?
2019-05-23 09:56
They are legendary because they are one of the household name in gaming, you can ask most 10-30 Years old they will at least tell you they heard the name. it's the story just like optic of some players that made a million dollar making International Company from uploading gaming footage
2019-05-23 10:35
Uhhh what? Just because so many people know them doesn't make them Legendary, it just makes them popular.
2019-05-23 13:37
Achievement and the ability for people to remember are what makes you legendary here are some of their achievements: - Make COD esport Great With Optic (Won numerous Majors) - 2nd best R6 team - their 2 duos being ranked 1st and 2nd at the Fortnite's Twitchcon Major - started a trend of "superteams" in CS
2019-05-23 14:11
-Not sure about make COD esport great because it's as salty as ever with them -That is a good achievement not gonna lie -Ewww no no no do not mention that piece of shit here - "Started a trend of "superteams" in CS" ehhhh by buying the current best players yeah sure sure superteams hmmm
2019-05-24 01:07
LOL dude how isnt SK not legendary you dont know what youre on about sry bro but maybe inform you better just of top of my mind. -Legendary old cs lineups( especially 2003 lineup HeatoN, elemeNt, Potti, SpawN, fisker, ahl) -The massive dominant fifa twins, no match -The legendary Phayton in pes -The god of quake, Rapha
2019-05-22 15:20
there are alot of scandal according the faze managment and players, so i wouldn't bet if they are innocent.
2019-05-22 13:43
+1
2019-05-21 14:10
+1
2019-05-21 16:44
+1
2019-05-22 01:26
+1
2019-05-22 09:24
#66
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Denmark Twick_ 
+1 Gayfue
2019-05-22 09:35
+1
2019-05-22 09:42
#89
swag | 
United Kingdom Midoriya 
+1
2019-05-22 14:08
+1
2019-05-22 14:27
#117
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2019-05-22 14:55
-1000
2019-05-22 15:51
#149
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Czech Republic QuertyX 
+1
2019-05-22 15:56
+1
2019-05-22 16:49
+1
2019-05-22 16:52
+1
2019-05-23 10:38
#3
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Portugal KuaZar 
idk, faze says they didnt collect any money from his earnings, but tfue wouldnt be mad sued them for no reason
2019-05-21 13:51
#6
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Germany Vini_1337 
maybe he want to sue them for more money ?
2019-05-21 13:56
I'm a lawyer bro, this is a classic move to get your contract terminated. I've read the case file uploaded online and this does seems to be the case and is pretty evident when you look into what the "reliefs" are that his lawyer asks for.
2019-05-21 14:09
#21
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Netherlands installwizard 
You're a piece of shit dude, and when my side of this is heard you'll see why. Way to fkn jump on the bandwagon and chase the clout. You must me dancing right now. Matt I'm going to personally make sure you regret tweeting this and adding to this bullshit dumpster fire.
2019-05-21 14:20
#24
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India antique94 
Not funny
2019-05-21 14:23
#25
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Netherlands installwizard 
I’ve done my best to avoid unnecessary controversy and drama over the last few years but my tweets today were an oversight on all accounts. I’d like to apologize to everyone over at the FaZe Clan organization for jumping in unnecessarily.
2019-05-21 14:24
he doesn't know you're pasting banks
2019-05-21 16:44
Can you give me a link? I'm actually interested and would like to look into it. Edit: nevermind i checked your average posts/threads.
2019-05-22 01:32
that edit had me laughing my hearts out. nvm have at it > scribd.com/document/410833590/Tenney-v-F..
2019-05-22 06:10
IANAL but i think i should represent myself in court over false manslaughter charges. how hard could it be?
2019-05-22 01:32
#15
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Portugal KuaZar 
he wont get money if he is not right
2019-05-21 14:12
#16
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Australia Pwnisher_ 
no but he'll get his contract terminated for free
2019-05-21 14:14
#17
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Portugal KuaZar 
thats stupid, he benefits more if he is in faze, more exposure, his numbers sjy rocketed whe he joined them
2019-05-21 14:15
He 2as actually already signed with faze before he blew up so faze took a risk and it worked out
2019-05-21 14:19
#54
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United Kingdom fal36 
hes outgrown faze' hes gotten so big now that he doesnt need an org to do well. he cant get certain sponsorships cus faze already have brand deals. like if hyperx or logitech were to offer tfue loads of money for him to promote them he wouldnt be able to since faze are sponsored by steelseries and that would go against his contract
2019-05-22 01:30
#131
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Turkey rivaluk 
lets see if he is "big enough" fortnite... im just sayin. tfue out my face
2019-05-22 15:34
#84
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Germany Roflcopter234 
nah he has more than enough exposure and would earn more money without them
2019-05-22 13:44
+1
2019-05-22 14:17
#79
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Denmark BriTe 
tfues dad is sueing them to get tfue out of the faze contract
2019-05-22 13:39
tfue plays fortnite,he obviously has braindamage
2019-05-22 15:07
#199
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Norway at0mic_cs 
+1
2019-05-22 21:19
#4
chrisJ | 
Netherlands ChrisJay 
Who?
2019-05-21 13:53
#7
KAMI | 
Namibia YungLumis 
fortnite players...
2019-05-21 14:02
#8
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Finland Vkims 
faze is right in this situation
2019-05-21 14:03
#80
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Denmark BriTe 
+1
2019-05-22 13:39
Who gives a fuck about autistic fortnite steamers arguing keep that shit away from here
2019-05-21 14:05
+1
2019-05-21 14:39
#42
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Brazil yalamix 
+1
2019-05-21 17:00
#44
ZywOo | 
France uNLmofo 
+1 !
2019-05-21 17:05
"off topic" >uk brain >fan of smooya
2019-05-22 01:34
lmao fuck sake here we go, i don't give a fuck if it's in off topic the game is for 12 year olds and spergs and no one here gives a fuck what 2 of the biggest autists in that game are arguing about And don't try to take piss out of my nationality when all you are is a Russian puppet state you stupid piece of shit
2019-05-22 09:15
lmao calm down bro
2019-05-22 09:17
uk bad men))
2019-05-22 13:40
woa
2019-05-22 14:28
#121
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Lithuania OnyxLT 
Rekt the libtard)))
2019-05-22 15:07
#223
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Poland LucaS04 
+1
2019-05-23 17:22
#11
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Netherlands gelm1r 
Only people that would vote for ttfue are 10-12 year old fortnite players, seems there are quite some young kids on hltv they should be banned.
2019-05-21 14:07
I don't trust FaZe because of the shitty and scummy things they did in the past but i also don't trust this Tfue guy. To early to from an opinion.
2019-05-21 14:12
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Norway Sunny47 
what did they do in the past. genuinely asking.
2019-05-21 14:16
gearnuke.com/faze-clan-involved-latest-c.. Basically owned a skin-gambling website and promoted gambling to kids.
2019-05-21 14:23
#26
YNk | 
Norway Sunny47 
oh well
2019-05-21 14:33
#134
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Turkey rivaluk 
and yet this guy is just doin it to exit faze without paying anything. he wants all of the money all of the brands for himself. but yeah, he plays fortnite LUL
2019-05-22 15:36
#78
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Indonesia tsokai 
+1
2019-05-22 13:39
#20
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Sweden MpK_ 
i think tfue is in the wrong
2019-05-21 14:20
#22
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Australia CuppaJoe 
Read from both sides, siding with Faze. They said it in the contract. Tfue doesn’t want to be with them anymore. Simple But “Gamer agreements” sounds retarded.
2019-05-21 14:21
#39
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United States Equinox2018 
This is just Tfue's lousy way of trying to get out of the contract. Personally, I don't think that FaZe did anything described within the lawsuit. The contract does stipulate that FaZe can take upwards of 80% of his earnings on videos and tournament revenue, but they have made clear that's no longer the standard they uphold. That contract was written with a previous legal team. They have since switched legal teams, and now it is 20% to the Company (FaZe) and 80% to the Player (Tfue)
2019-05-21 16:58
#49
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Australia CuppaJoe 
Ok
2019-05-22 01:21
the story is faze cut 80% of his earning's? i dont understand why Tfue sign this contract and now cry about it
2019-05-21 14:34
#38
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United States Equinox2018 
The contract stipulates that FaZe can - keyword can - take upwards of 80% of his earnings. The most they've taken is 20% of 300,000 (60,000) he's made on brand deals and sponsorships.
2019-05-21 16:52
#40
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United States Equinox2018 
They've also updated the contract so that FaZe can take a maximum of 20% of his earnings.
2019-05-21 16:58
"Indeed, the Gamer Agreement purportedly entitles Faze Clan to a finder's fee of up to eighty per cent of the revenue paid by third-parties for Tenney's services."
2019-05-23 09:44
I fucking hate faze banks but tfue is retarded
2019-05-21 14:37
we cant judge before Tfue statement cuz we only heard FaZe site yet
2019-05-21 14:39
bump
2019-05-21 15:06
#34
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Sweden maximusstael 
Go unsub tfue if u ever subbed him this is bs
2019-05-21 16:45
#52
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United States k3ar 
I watched his sub count go down steadily on here: socialblade.com/youtube/user/ttfue/realt.. It was very satisfying.
2019-05-22 01:28
#107
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Canada NELK 
He already lost 30k subs
2019-05-22 14:37
#36
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United States Equinox2018 
FaZe made it clear that the only money they take is sponsorships and brand deals and nothing else. All they took from Tfue is 60,000 (20% of 300,000). The contract allows them to take up to 80%, but they don't All other revenue that Tfue makes is all his. He said on stream that he keeps all money he earns from tournaments. He wasn't pressured to drink, that was his choice. Just one day after he signed with Faze, he was drinking champagne on stream. He says he was pressure into illegal gambling, yet again something he can decline to partake in.
2019-05-21 16:51
#46
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France uNLmofo 
funny fact is that the dude signed the contract. so it's all his fault. always read what you sign bois
2019-05-21 17:07
#48
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United States Equinox2018 
his legal team is such bs as well
2019-05-21 17:08
#50
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United Kingdom fal36 
it seems like hes realised he can make more money by getting his own sponsorships but he cant because faze already have sponsorships so hes trying to get out by throwng a tantrum and hoping faze will just get rid of him
2019-05-22 01:26
#72
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Other xrist 
isn't the stuff about alcohol brought up because his employers were offering him to drink when he was underaged. that's pretty fucked up, they are not just friends dude.
2019-05-22 11:42
#186
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United States Equinox2018 
i personally don't think that anyone would pressure him to drink. if you see the way he drinks, he was clearly doing in for years and has experience
2019-05-22 17:21
#41
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United States AproximateCS 
Some annoying brat or a trusted org. Hmm
2019-05-21 16:59
hope faze sue this kid back for spreading fake information and he losses all his money
2019-05-21 17:04
+1
2019-05-21 17:05
#47
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France uNLmofo 
+1
2019-05-21 17:07
You think he'd get help from lawyers to file a legit lawsuit based of fake information against a company worth millions of dollars? How dumb are you? Yea, he's definitely going to risk his entire brand and friendships to get some extra money when he's already a multi-millionaire. There is obviously some fking dirt on Faze, they're not as clean as you think and him and his legal team wouldn't file a lawsuit without some real ground that includes illegal activities and exploiting their players out of their own interest.
2019-05-22 06:36
I agree +1
2019-05-22 13:53
#93
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Finland Teukkasd 
he dont even need to get any lawyer becouse tfues dad is lawyer so its pretty easy for him to get help
2019-05-22 14:22
Bryan Freedman is his attorney tho
2019-05-22 15:13
#129
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Finland Teukkasd 
yea i think he is tfues dads lawyer friend or some shit
2019-05-22 15:28
#135
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Turkey rivaluk 
dude, he made millions and sues them for taking 20% of brand deals ?? faze did get nothing else from him u think a guy like tfue who literally plays fortnite acts like a kid says the truth? u think faze isnt smart enough for that kind of thing? i dont trust this tfue guy hell no, his contract was likethis, he wants to get out there without paying anything cuz he thinks he is big enough to continue without an org.
2019-05-22 15:40
You clearly haven't read any of the article or court case and don't even know what he's suing for. You think Tfue, a multi-millionaire is going to risk his entire brand and several friendships by suing a multi-millionaire company based off of nothing? According to the lawsuit Faze violate several California laws and Tfue is missing out on possibly millions in brand deals due to Faze allegedly illegally preventing him from closing deals due to conflict of interest.
2019-05-22 15:45
#151
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Turkey rivaluk 
i know exactly what all this is about. when he signed he was like obviously looking forward to his future with faze didnt expect all of that turning out like that. i cant say for sure if those they violate the california laws cuz i haven read them yet. but its just an easy way for him to get out of faze
2019-05-22 15:56
You're right, he wants out of Faze because that benefits him the most as a creator. But this doesn't excuse the fact that Faze possibly have broken several laws and unfairly used Tfue to prevent him from signing huge deals and continuing to grow as a creator while in the meanwhile only helping the interest of Faze. If Tfue feels that he is being used and mistreated and if he has legal grounds to support it then I don't see any reason why you can question him sueing them, he has every right to.
2019-05-22 16:05
#155
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Turkey rivaluk 
but we can ask tfue 1 thing, u think he wouldve been so succesful without faze? i guess there it goes the whole situation is based on the org which made tfue the guy he is today. Since its early to tell if they really violated those laws we can just sit and wait for the decision the court makes
2019-05-22 16:07
No, Banks and Faze obviously elevated Tfue's career and I imagine he's forever greatful for that. Does that mean that he shouldn't stand up to an org using him and limiting his career under legal grounds? Ofc not, he shouldn't deal with being fucked over just because he's gotten help to get where he currently is, you fight to top and don't deal with bullshit on the way. If these lawsuit claims are true and the California laws have actually been broken then Tfue has done the right thing. No matter if the Faze owner is his friend or not is irrelevant, it's just sad to see the public opinion being in the favour of Banks for speaking the loudest.
2019-05-22 16:18
FaZe Clan did not respond to a request for comment on Monday. But it did issue a statement via Twitter, saying, “We’re shocked and disappointed to see the news of Tfue’s press article and lawsuit … We have only collected a total $60,000 from our partnership, while Tfue has earned millions as a member of FaZe Clan. While contracts are different with each player, all of them—including Tfue’s—have a maximum of 20% to FaZe Clan in both tournament winnings as well as content revenue, with 80% to the player. Lmao basic math? 20% of millions>>>>>60 k? .... Yes semantics etc, but 60K? My fucking ass....
2019-05-22 01:36
That number is quite fishy, but he still has millions.
2019-05-22 14:29
#136
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Turkey rivaluk 
think about it, if he made millions from tournaments and twitch subs youtube subs etc, which faze says they didnt take. and then 300k for example from brands and stuff? and 20% of that is 60k yes
2019-05-22 15:41
Those numbers would make no sense whatsoever. But i'm sure we will hear more from this in the future. He has the monetary assets to be well represented and this through the end. If i were in Faze position i would try to settle this as quietly as possible.
2019-05-22 21:10
#211
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Italy marxie 
Banks explained this in his latest video
2019-05-23 10:05
No offense, but i won't look into it. I just merely posted because the statement was written horribly. Just tell me who is right and wrong and i will take your word on it.
2019-05-23 11:12
#221
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Italy marxie 
If faze side is the truth tfue did all of this to get released from his contract with faze and to stop promoting the faze brand. Banks said that he took only 20% of a 300k$ deal (=60k$) with some sponsors and stuff but tfue probably have brought massive revenue indirectly by promoting faze (merch and stuff like this). Thats the story in short terms, now you be the judge
2019-05-23 17:19
tsue
2019-05-22 02:31
If you knew the entire story and actually read it through you'd actually be retarded if you defended Faze as much as you do. The amount of scummy shit they've pulled is insane. It's not like you file a lawsuit over nothing and I highly doubt that even 90% of you actually read any of it through. You probably watched Banks crybaby video about how he was ''betrayed'' and sided with him XD Tfue has a legit case with exceptions in it, for example the pressure to drink and commit dangerous activities seem to just have been thrown in there to make Faze look worse when they aren't true. But the fact about Faze preventing Tfue from collaborating with sponsors is a huge deal, something that none of you probably even know about. And the fact that Faze made a 11 year old they signed lie about his age in the interest of growing their brand is just insane, I wonder why Banks didn't bring either of these two things up in his video......
2019-05-22 06:37
Tell me one thing. How bored were you to actually read the whole shitshow?
2019-05-22 09:28
I didn't read all of it, I read through it but mainly watched Richard Lewis stream where he addressed the whole situation and it's complications. Atleast I don't form and express my opinon about a lawsuit solely based off of some doucetubers emotional youtube video.
2019-05-22 12:18
#193
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Bulgaria ONZIEMA 
nice
2019-05-22 17:51
That 11 year old already streamed before he joined faze
2019-05-22 09:40
#87
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United States priceisright2 
"the pressure to drink and commit dangerous activities" Tfue and his brother have been doing both those things since Turner was like 16. Turner was the one who wanted to jump off the reservoir and was pressuring the other FaZe dudes to do it. The fact that he would even try to blame FaZe for that is absolute insanity.
2019-05-22 13:52
If you read what I wrote I said that that claim was most likely not legitimate. Maybe Tfue saw it in that way from his perspective but it sure doesn't look like that, still that was only a small part of a big lawsuit that includes some pretty shady stuff.
2019-05-22 15:07
"Faze preventing Tfue from collaborating with sponsors" That's how the business works? Hello?
2019-05-22 14:27
You gotta imagine that Tfue as one of the biggest creators in the world would want out of this contract for freedom to cooperate with the brands that he wants rather than being limited by Faze making the choice for him and not allowing brands to make deals based of off conflict of interest. This isn't the main part of the case though as Faze allegedly limited his ability to pursue his profession in violation of California law and failed to pay him his share of sponsorship earnings. That's where the illegal side comes in but nontheless Tfue should have no interest to be apart of Faze. Just look at Ninja, once the success really hit him he wanted out of Luminosity as quick as possible, as he did and now he has his own brand aswell as HUGE sponors such as redbull and ubereats.
2019-05-22 15:21
"limited his ability to pursue his profession" - this is just how it works. Hamilton can't drive for Ferrari. Once you're under a contract, you have to follow it. "failed to pay him his share of sponsorship earnings" - is there any evidence, speaking of bank accounts and so? I might happened to overlook them.
2019-05-22 15:26
I know what you're saying, when Tfue joined Faze with almost only upsides to it, but now that success has hit him hard it is more viable for him to be independant. This is not considered illegal but rather a part in the case that they brought up to further support the fact that Tfue is being used by them. i.gyazo.com/5da4f810b942a6c9395c9b119dd2.. Here is the part about breaking the california law, I can't be bothered to look through and find the part where they mention the sponsorship earnings not being paid but its on: hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/tfue-sues-.. with the actual court case at the bottom.
2019-05-22 15:35
Those "numbers" Faze provided... seem quite fishy... What a sad story. A rich guy finds an unknown talented kid. He makes him a famous gamer with millions of everything (money, fans...). But as the kid grows, he comes to realise: "I don't need anyone [anymore]." And sues them based on some laws (still ok), but also blames (not ok). Faze give false information about the money (they obviously took care of the finances well) and so the kid uses The Law against them. Eventually, the one with "better" paper wins: If Faze proves that they have rights to be doing that all (they probably have though because of the contract) If the court finds it "harrasing" and unfair or against the good manners.
2019-05-22 15:49
I definitely think that Tfue has the edge in this lawsuit. There is no way that him and his lawyers would file such a huge lawsuit against a multi-million dollar company without 100% knowing that they have some really fking legit grounds when it comes to the law. And when reading the lawsuit and all the claims it seems hard for Faze to be able to defend themselves although I'm not going to act like im a lawyer or something, This is the thing with esports, it's so new and a ton of orgs probably get away with a shitton of shady shit to get some extra millions since there hasn't been many legal grounds set in such a new field when it comes to orgs, player contracts, conditions etc.. There's not unions like there is in other fields to help out parties that might be mistreated otherwise. I mean I can't recall any big lawsuit against any esports org so the majority of them most likely aren't prepared to be sued, and when a huge case like this finally comes around I don't find it suprising that they are able to find a lot of dirt.
2019-05-22 16:00
Nicely said,and a very good point with Tsue believing in himself. It's going to be a very messy though. Not liking that. gg Faze
2019-05-22 16:04
I honestly have a lot of respect for Tfue for having the balls to stand up to a huge org when he feels that he is being used and limited as a creator (under the law) even though Faze obviously has helped him out a lot. A huge case like this can only have good implications on the esports scene as if this case goes through and Tfue wins, I imagine a lot of esports orgs will go over their contracts to make them as fair as possible to prevent the same thing from happening. Ultimately what sucks is that 99% of the public opinion isn't based upon reading up on a bit of the facts like we have done but rather taking the side of whoever speaks the loudest (banks) as if Tfue either wins or loses I imagine he's being hit hard by this from the public.
2019-05-22 16:11
Those contracts will be "reworked", if Tfue wins. He surely has some aces under his sleeve. The thing, why many people blame Tfue is because of the manners - if you were a milionaire thanks to somke org, you own them. And he made a "snake" move (we don't truly know), so it looks. Bad things will follow for e-sports
2019-05-22 16:18
Haha yea. I just see myself as a 12 year old in this scenario after watching Banks video; Banks helped Tfue all the way to the top and now suddently he gets sued by his best friend! Of course I would've sided with Banks rather than reading some boring lawsuit and actually getting to know both sides. Yea, it might seem as a snake move, Faze and Banks elevated Tfue's career, he's at the top now and a huge part is thanks to them, but does that mean that Tfue should just allow being used and limited as of the biggest creators ever even under legal grounds? Nah. I mean from an outside perspective Tfue just seems like the biggest ungrateful backstabber but the fact that he stands up for himself (and he surely knew going into this that the public would be against him) is quite brave.
2019-05-22 16:24
He basically executed himself, his reputation will never be the same. But honestly, one of those points seems quite off to me. That Faze controlled his actions with other brands. I know, he has the right, but isn't it usually a thing that orgs do? They contact/are contacted by sponzors, provide them names, products...
2019-05-22 16:27
I get what you're saying. At first I didn't think it was allegedly illegal either as you're under contract with their brand and therefor get to have the same sponsors. It's not like s1mple in Navi can just sign an independant deal with Logitech and only use their products if Navi have Steelseries as a sponsor. It's probably because Faze is unlicensed and then the same rules aren't applied, I'm not sure though. ''Because FaZe Clan is unlicensed, it has avoided regulation by California’s Labor Commissioner. The need for licensure and regulation, however, is dire.''
2019-05-22 16:40
Damn, are you sure you aren't a lawyer?
2019-05-22 17:07
dont have time to talk, need to help this dumb fortnite player with some lawsuit xd
2019-05-22 17:17
Oh no, exposed Sorry mister for bothering you xd
2019-05-22 17:34
i.gyazo.com/7f26b32ae0856bc4e0a75f00db73.. apparently even the part about Faze controlling his cooperation with brands is allegedly illegal under california law. If all of these laws are legitimately violated then Faze are in deep shit.
2019-05-22 15:48
But every org "controls" cooperation with sponzors, don't they? If the org is sponzored by RedBull, then a member (of that org) shouldn't promote GFuel..... or am I wrong?
2019-05-22 15:52
#175
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United States ItsImpact 
U can’t be a part of faze which is sponsored by gfuel, and then get a red bull sponsor. FaZe is reasonable for stating that
2019-05-22 16:58
I thought so aswell, I only thought that this part was in the lawsuit to build on the case that he is being limited as a creator although it isn't under the law. But apparently as I've come to know it Faze are allegedly breaking the law by doing this due to being an unlicensed org and under the California law it's illegal. Can't say for 100% but in the lawsuit they issue the fact that Faze control his sponsors as a break of law in California and I read in the article that its due to Faze being unlicensed.
2019-05-22 17:05
#69
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United States Trump2020KAG 
He hit it big. Now he feels he is bigger then faze. Liquid got better fortnite team anyway.
2019-05-22 11:35
#94
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Finland Teukkasd 
flair checks out
2019-05-22 14:24
#70
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Other xrist 
faze are the ones breaking the law it seems like though, love how people are supporting these shitty businesses.
2019-05-22 11:38
+1
2019-05-22 11:45
#111
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United States Trump2020KAG 
It’s a businesses job to make money. If tfue signed a shit contract that’s his problem. Should have bargain more or hired a lawyer for the contract signing.
2019-05-22 14:46
A shitty contract is one thing, an illegal contract is a whole other. It's not like the org has the ability to break the law if you sign their illegal contract, you can still object it if a lawyer looks at your signed contract and finds contents that prove you are being illegal used by the org...
2019-05-22 16:29
#164
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United States Trump2020KAG 
What illegal in it????? Even if a org say we are taking 99.9% of ur earnings that’s not illegal. That just u signing a shitty ass contract. I don’t know the whole story but I heard it’s about money.
2019-05-22 16:35
Why are you posting your opinion when you don't even know what he's suing for xd? He's obviously not suing a multi-million dollar company over taking a small cut of his money. Do you think he signed a contract that says they get 20% and then when they take it he goes ahead and sues them? Of course not, several practices of Faze are allegedly against California law and Tfue sues for being used and limited as a creator under legal grounds. Complaints: i.gyazo.com/79c0a52afb8c35071c428a9dbc6c.. Article including the lawsuit: hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/tfue-sues-..
2019-05-22 16:45
#168
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United States Trump2020KAG 
California says it all. Not a real place.
2019-05-22 16:47
Alright, shame for them that they decided to live there and obide by those rules then..
2019-05-22 16:48
#172
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United States Trump2020KAG 
And btw I’m pretty sure I’m not the only person who isn’t a lawyer in this thread. The thread asked what we think about it. If he said lawyers only I would have stayed out. But he didn’t. Tfue is being a spoiled rich brat about this.
2019-05-22 16:50
So he should just deal with being used and treated unfairly under the law whilst possibly losing out on millions in brand deals just to avoid ''betraying'' his friends on Faze? Faze made Tfue a lot bigger than he would've been without them but I don't he's forced to sit back and deal with being mistreated under the law just because they got him to where he is. Just like Ninja who left Luminosity in pursue of building his brand (which was successful asfk) Tfue wants to do the same but he is allegedly being used unfairly by Faze under the law, the fact that Faze helped him and that Banks is his friends is currenly irrelevant because right now they are allegedly breaking the law whilst stopping Tfue from reaching the levels of the likes of Ninja.
2019-05-22 17:00
#180
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Look up the video on how much tfue makes. This scum bag makes millions but yet cries because ninja makes more has better sponsors and his team pays better. But it’s whatever none of this has anything to do with me I just feel he needs to STFU and play fortnite because he is the worlds best player.
2019-05-22 17:09
I get what you mean dude but it might not be all about the money. You aren't criticising Ninja for leaving Luminosity before his contract expired. Why was Ninja so greedy for money? Why didn't he stay loyal to the team that signed and supported him a long time ago, why is no one asking these questions? It's about building his brand and he feels he is being limited and used by Faze under the LAW, Tfue has more money than he will ever spend but he probably wants to continue to blossom into the biggest content creator alive, the same thing as niko and s1mple wanting to be the best players alive. Tfue can't reach this under the chokehold of Faze's allegedly illegal and unfair contract. Do you get my point?
2019-05-22 17:15
#202
Boombl4 | 
Poland RoDaK 
why do you even bother talking to that amerifat moron lmao
2019-05-23 07:54
#73
ropz | 
Indonesia en1lykS 
tfue is a piece of a shit.
2019-05-22 11:43
Tfue is a good guy
2019-05-22 11:45
it only proves what kind of brainlets play forknight ))
2019-05-22 13:40
Faze are breaking the law even If you don't like it. Personally I still feel like tfue made probably one of the biggest snake move he could have made. faze made him to what he is now and look what he gives them back ,yeah a fucking lawsuit which could potentially destroy the entire Organisation.
2019-05-22 13:45
#86
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Other xrist 
snake? he contacted faze about the contract in sep 2018
2019-05-22 13:49
They have no reason to terminate his contract If he wants to join another org, that org should buy him out
2019-05-22 14:26
#109
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Other xrist 
why does he have no reason to terminate his contract?
2019-05-22 14:41
I don't understand this sentence at all
2019-05-22 15:00
#90
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Finland Teukkasd 
how are faze breaking the law?
2019-05-22 14:12
#97
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Other xrist 
"FaZe Clan is violating California law and the Talent Agency Act" hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/tfue-sues-..
2019-05-22 14:27
#110
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Finland Teukkasd 
just dont get this shit, faze clan have took from him 60 and this kid makes millions , its his fault when he signed the contract
2019-05-22 14:46
#115
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Other xrist 
faze might have taken only 60k but tfue might owe them millions/100's of thousands
2019-05-22 14:52
#130
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Finland Teukkasd 
yeah but even faze banks said that they are not gonna take any money from tfue
2019-05-22 15:29
#148
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Other xrist 
as if you can trust banks lol, most unprofessional guy ever
2019-05-22 15:54
#196
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Finland Teukkasd 
0/8 banks is the nicest and kindest person ever
2019-05-22 18:04
Faze is a shit org tbh. But you can't go with a fortnite player. I hate both of them. And this idiot called Faze Banks, ffs.
2019-05-22 14:26
dunno, don't care. I just like faze because neo hehe
2019-05-22 14:29
#105
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Canada NELK 
Lost all my respect for Tfue. He was the least autistic fortnite streamer
2019-05-22 14:34
#114
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Brazil PlasticB0Y 
dakotaz is alright, i dont watch nor play fortnite anymore but when i used to, he was alright.
2019-05-22 14:52
#112
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Brazil PlasticB0Y 
he is being manipulated by his dad and girlfriend i feel sorry for him, they are the ones forcing him into things.
2019-05-22 14:49
Karrigan's unbiased opinion about Faze: twitter.com/karriganCSGO/status/11305629.. Banks' video about the issue from his POV: twitter.com/Banks/status/113068566197392.. I suspect tfue though, but let's see till the end.
2019-05-22 14:51
#116
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Brazil Perdigao22 
Faze of course
2019-05-22 14:54
ez4me
2019-05-22 15:43
#144
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Israel soprendo 
Don't care
2019-05-22 15:50
tfue is right
2019-05-22 15:52
This isn't poll worthy. Obviously FaZe isn't hiding anything and They're right. The thing is that Tfue seriously had amazing business proposals and he couldn't realize it because of FaZe. He wanted to break the contract and the only way to do it was a lawyer. And lawyers will do and say anything to win/get results.
2019-05-22 15:56
#163
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Yugoslavia kief 
boowho millionaire kid crying because he cant read clauses in contract, who cares
2019-05-22 16:34
he is a beast
2019-05-22 16:37
19% kids who support a fortnite player
2019-05-22 16:49
Tfue already tried getting his contract terminated in Sept & FaZe denied. He's just doing what's best for his brand cause if he sticks under them for too long he most likely won't be able to branch off like Nadeshot or Ninja did with their orgs.
2019-05-22 16:54
#177
hommii | 
Iceland ban1c 
Tfue is just trying to grab someeasy bucks. He saw a potential exploit in sue-ing Faze expecting them to try and hide the case and settle. Faze made the right move to publicise and proceed with legal action.
2019-05-22 17:04
+1. He is trying to exit his contract and thinks he is in the right? What a fucking moron
2019-05-22 17:52
LMFAO 80% and 20%
2019-05-22 17:09
cs go > fortnite
2019-05-22 17:10
#188
NEO | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
footnut lmao
2019-05-22 17:32
tfue is fking stupid, actually feel bad for banks
2019-05-22 17:32
#190
Twistzz | 
Sweden davv4 
He is greedy comparing himself to ninja wanting the same incomes and freedom.
2019-05-22 17:33
#195
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Ukraine volanchick 
who
2019-05-22 17:54
#206
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Singapore Defqon_1 
Fortnite players are retards so I'm supporting the best ORG, FaZe Clan
2019-05-23 09:35
#212
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United Kingdom KieranFR 
Should have added a don't care option
2019-05-23 10:07
#ReleaseTheContract
2019-05-23 10:08
#217
Nifty | 
Latvia nauruha 
fuck that tfue kid! Retard.
2019-05-23 11:13
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