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Any opinions now? Imo it fixes timings for CTs who can play aggressively on the ramp now.
2019-05-22 11:01
Btw love the map now 😍
2019-05-22 11:01
you love a map in a shitty dead game? Okay thats weird dude
2019-05-22 11:06
Then why are you a part of that shitty dead game's community?
2019-05-22 11:21
#31
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
People been saying csgo is a dead game for 3 years now even though csgo never even dropped users
2019-05-22 11:58
+1
2019-05-22 12:13
+1
2019-05-22 13:01
#54
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
idiots have been crying even in 2003 that CS is dying
2019-05-22 14:07
#78
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Spain N0Love 
Exactly xD
2019-05-25 12:45
#58
rain | 
United Kingdom EKersh 
+1
2019-05-22 14:54
#61
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Europe PlatinumToe 
CS grow significantly every year, huge amount of money is pumped into it and big companies invest. But there will allways be mindless idiots shouting their state of mind controlled by their emotions without any sense of rational thinking. Its all about money, and when the amount of money flourish constantly every year, you have to blatantly stupid to say it is dying.
2019-05-22 15:00
#68
Germany pmb  
well, the market for competetive pc games grows by the day - stagnation in this case is equal to dropping market share.
2019-05-24 13:30
Well said
2019-05-24 13:36
#72
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
if we are talking about competitive games then no they are not growing just like csgo. and stagnated unless we are talking about league in korea.
2019-05-24 18:12
#73
Germany pmb  
yes they do, as we can see with br games like apex or fortnite. like it or not, they have big prize pools and regardless whether one deems those suitable for competetive gaming - they fall under that category. a whole chunk of gamers who played consoles or minecraft previously got introduced to high stakes pc gaming that way.
2019-05-25 12:19
#75
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Lmao if you think br games are competitive you must be retarded their games have literally no structure as an esport and usually the tournaments are not watched by anyone only the atreamers themaelves are being watched. Br games have no esport there is a reason that everyone is making fun of them as esports ready. Cause nobody cares about them. They are popular by themselves but have nothing to do with competitive
2019-05-25 12:42
#76
Germany pmb  
nice argument :D csgo is full of randomness and technical difficulties, so what? hitreg is serverside -> doesnt even matter what you shot at, you cant force a kill through skill? still people act like it's the holy grail of competitiveness. there are like 20k viewers right now for that summit event, although there are decent teams. as soon as people compete vs each other, playing for a prize pool - it is a competetive enviroment, like it or not.
2019-05-25 12:42
#81
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Hit reg has been almost fixed and it is rare now that someone doesnt die to hit reg wtf are talking about. Csgo and league get about 200k viewers in normal tournaments. You know how much fortnite, pubg and apex tournaments get? Lmao the fact even is that 20k viewers is what fortnite tournaments get. And this is a tier 2 tournament
2019-05-25 12:54
#84
Germany pmb  
hit reg has been fixed???? all you see in tournaments is what THE SERVER sees, you dont see actual player in eye view. just compare a recording of your game via obs to the demo which you can download, it is blatantly different. ofc it seems that player x misses since it is what the server has concluded.
2019-05-25 13:33
#87
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
The fact that if you play csgo faceit regularly you would know that it is basically fixed and that it is rare that your shots dont connect. And btw you went off from the main subject that is br games and their comp
2019-05-25 15:16
#88
Germany pmb  
I did for a while, everytime I got matched with a 100ms russian I could hit every shot or got fucked before I had the chance to see him. interpolation does work very poorly in cs, and no, faceit doesnt magically fix it. Instead, it makes the issue worse by enabling their server side anti wallhack, which hides players until you peek them -> random chance decides who sees whom first. This just explains why I dont think br games are incomparable to csgo. The game format of cs itself is superior to br, obviously, but that doesnt mean that 1) csGO is superior in every regard or 2) br games are not competetive at all. they are, to a lesser extand maybe.
2019-05-25 15:29
#90
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
What the fk are you talking about lmao they literally had 3 updates to fix this added with 128tr its so rare that your shots dont connect now. And yes csgo is superior in its competitive but in br games people justlike to watch the streamers themselves which we dont have in csgo
2019-05-26 14:53
#79
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Spain N0Love 
- Competitive - Fortnite and Apex Pick one
2019-05-25 12:46
#66
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Bulgaria cerq_sex_god 
s1mple 0 major dev1ce 3 major
2019-05-24 13:25
#56
ropz | 
Europe saurakeun 
+1
2019-05-22 14:30
-vertigo +cache
2019-05-22 11:02
#4
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Russia parovozik 
+1 dear god
2019-05-22 11:03
Fortunately is not gonna happen - mirage + Cache after major
2019-05-22 11:04
#53
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Germany VeryColdGuy 
sadly its true.. valve isn't ever close to remove vertigo from active pool
2019-05-22 14:05
i mean, they never just add a map to competetive map pool, to remove it few months later. Probably it will stay for a long time
2019-05-22 14:49
#60
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Germany VeryColdGuy 
yeah, the map on the road to be removed, its Mirage.
2019-05-22 14:59
#77
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Finland DaddyAllu 
either mirage or overpass.
2019-05-25 12:44
#80
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Spain N0Love 
Nah Overpass is here to stay. One of the most played maps on LAN. Pros love it and after many changes I don't see how can they improve it or rework it somehow. This is the best version of Overpass that we're gonna see. However Mirage can use a design rework just like Dust2 did without necesseraly changing any of the structure of the map. And also it will give us some rest from probably the most played map in the community.
2019-05-25 12:50
#82
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Finland DaddyAllu 
I also hope that mirage will go next, but since it's valve you can't say for sure. Mirage feels so boring and so same every single game I play it. Tbh I just wish they brought season back :/
2019-05-25 12:55
#85
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Germany VeryColdGuy 
overpass bro? really not.
2019-05-25 13:45
why mirage? maybe more ct sided ovp/train?
2019-05-24 13:38
What's wrong with CT sides maps? Could you explain?
2019-05-24 13:39
#86
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Finland DaddyAllu 
because mirage is boring, washed up and it's the only map in map pool which havent gotten a rework in 5-6 years
2019-05-25 13:46
#3
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Russia parovozik 
you can't turn piece of shit into a candy, so its still shit
2019-05-22 11:02
But it has never been a piece of shit..🤔
2019-05-22 11:04
I think you're officially the most biased individual I have ever seen on HLTV.
2019-05-22 14:04
To counter your argument, guess what happened with overpass
2019-05-22 11:05
#35
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
do you mean slowerpass? when u fall at sleep during a round?
2019-05-22 12:42
#45
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
overpass is the only map that actually plays out dynamically. Not just the same rush mid every round
2019-05-22 13:08
+1 This map was always utter trash, and will be forever. GIVE BACK SEASON AND SANTORINI!
2019-05-22 11:07
Have you ever considered going to psychiatrist for an immediate treatment?
2019-05-22 11:11
Expected from Netherland. Foken Junkies. Your sentence doesn't make any sense.
2019-05-22 11:10
you should, since ur from netherlands, ez 1.4k a month for being mentally disabled hltv user.
2019-05-22 11:28
Does 2006 mean your date of birth or the time when you were proven mentally challenged?
2019-05-22 11:35
i know multiple people from netherlands who fake being mentally handicapped just to get free 1.4k a month, nice people)) im 12 btw
2019-05-22 13:07
#14
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Portugal S4nd 
Do you remember overpass? With the b site all open and a ton of shit
2019-05-22 11:10
#19
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Russia parovozik 
yes they have done a lot of work to make that piece of shit smell fine but i dont believe they can fix vertigo to make it any good
2019-05-22 11:20
#20
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Portugal S4nd 
We can just hope
2019-05-22 11:20
#22
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Russia parovozik 
or - vertigo + cache
2019-05-22 11:21
#47
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
why do people love cache so much? it's like the same shit over and over again. mid boost, smoke z, ct a main pop flash, 2 awper will duel at b main, fork smoke just rush in ez site
2019-05-22 13:10
#49
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Russia parovozik 
theres same shit on every map, so why people love cs so much?
2019-05-22 13:13
That's why we need entirely new maps
2019-05-22 14:02
#51
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Russia parovozik 
reported for this name
2019-05-22 14:03
#62
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
new map, new routine == doesn't get boring
2019-05-23 12:09
+1
2019-05-23 14:30
What makes you think that? They've done it before they can do it again. They now have way more data on what makes maps good and they get a lot of feedback by the community
2019-05-22 11:22
+1 And they finally listen and communicate with community
2019-05-22 11:26
#29
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Russia parovozik 
because its a casual map from cs 1.6 come on dude, 3 levels map can not be competitive or it need to be redone COMPLETELY
2019-05-22 11:34
That comment actually proves you haven't played map at all or you may be a complete retard
2019-05-22 11:53
Nuke has three levels too
2019-05-22 12:57
#39
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Russia parovozik 
atleast it have never been a casual map and its completely different from vertigo
2019-05-22 13:00
Well the layout of vertigo is completely different than any iterations previously. The only thing that is the same is the setting(skyscraper) and the name. Layout and gameplay are different and will be tweaked so it can be a competitive map
2019-05-22 13:01
That's what I mean, he never even played this map
2019-05-22 14:23
#10
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Australia opzy 
I like the new changes, but i still dislike A site and mid. I actually decided to remake the map for fun, so heres what i think the map should look like youtube.com/watch?v=-TnkPN8YQoE
2019-05-22 11:07
There will be more changes surely based on feedback
2019-05-24 13:24
#11
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Brazil baldok1 
I love that map, but I believe it already was too CT-sided and this rework has only made it way more CT-sided
2019-05-22 11:08
Might be true, the previous A ramp was really t sided and now the update changed it drastically. We will see once it will be played
2019-05-22 11:10
Yeah just two smokes and you could plant the bomb easily
2019-05-22 11:22
#59
rain | 
United Kingdom EKersh 
wdym the map was heavily t sided
2019-05-22 14:56
#12
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
havent played it
2019-05-22 11:08
Good update imo, allows you to actually try and fight for control without using all your nades to get ~20 seconds of control. Makes it less of a retake site
2019-05-22 11:11
#18
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Finland CucumberFIN 
At least now it won't be just people shooting through smokes and the wooden wall
2019-05-22 11:15
+1
2019-05-22 11:27
I like vertigo. And it's explosive style it has. Nothing like it we have in the map pool. And the more the community hates it the more i like the map. Other than most of the times they have no reason to hate it, and just say its shit. Like retards. But yeah the A tweaks are good, but Valve wont stop. People forget about old Cobblestone, overpass, nuke.. they had updates after updates, until it was fine. Valve knows what they do, and like how they pushed the map forced into us, like it or not.
2019-05-22 12:18
+1
2019-05-22 12:40
+1
2019-05-22 13:02
Why no tuscan?
2019-05-22 12:45
#46
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Turkey Mustafa- 
tuscan not competitive map
2019-05-22 13:09
#48
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Australia zanics 
vertigo needs to vertigo to the trashcan lol
2019-05-22 13:10
Nt
2019-05-23 19:41
#67
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Europe fahadinho 
Hello DonHaci
2019-05-24 13:27
I played it yesterday on a faceit , i won 22-20 but the map is too much CT now
2019-05-25 12:27
same but won 19-17, it went 8-7 , 8-7 both on t sides so it's pretty balanced atm imo
2019-05-25 12:57
#89
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Germany luros 
i like it but only played it once on faceit. if you wanne play it you have to play cancer mm
2019-05-25 15:32
10k viewers LUL Major Final LUL Dead Game LUL
2019-05-26 14:57
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