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Lefties, come here (Rate Hillary)
Germany aitscheltihwih 
Quick and easy question for everyone that considers himself left-winged: If you had to rate Hillary Clinton and her views etc., what would you give her? I here alot how much the elft loves her, but Im not that sure about that all. To me (pretty left), Hillary is a 2/10 at max. Its beyond my imagination how people would call her a lefty Oo
2019-05-22 16:21
#1
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Proper leftists dont like hillary. She was a pro establishment candidate, so she isnt much different from a typical neocon. I dont even see it worth rating tbh.
2019-05-22 16:23
Yep same. I hope they dont do the same with Biden now. People say its not the same as with Hillary cause we already know about shit Biden has done, but what kind of shitty arguement is that?
2019-05-22 16:37
Biden is a disgusting person in many aspects, arguably a war criminal who should not be allowed to run for any office. Bernie is still behind a couple of %. Will be a hard fight for certain. And if Biden is going to win primaries I couldn't critize people voting for trump or not voting. If Biden gets elected nothing will change and afterwards we will have another trump.
2019-05-22 16:46
#32
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Pakistan ostraka 
Biden will be the candidate. Sad but true. Bernie is too good for the US.
2019-05-22 17:12
I don't think so, Bernie was so close '16 and Biden has no answers on medical care, education and foreign policies. Unforgently media is trying their hardest to push Biden, like the CNN poll for example.
2019-05-22 17:14
#38
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Pakistan ostraka 
Bernie will get cucked again just like in 2016. Biden will be the candidate that much I'm sure of.
2019-05-22 17:16
Again We'll see, I just don't (want to) believe American democrats will be so dumb again.
2019-05-22 17:17
#27
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United States Trump2020KAG 
She was a female that’s why so many people wanted her to win. First it was the black guy then it was the women’s turn. But the savior of America fucked it all up and that’s why he’s a sexist racist POS.
2019-05-22 17:11
I agree with the first 2 sentences to a certain degree. But Biden is basically ahead of Sanders, so in reality this doesnt really check out. Its more than just the color of the skin and the gender. And do you mean Trump by the last part? If yes then I completely disagree. He is definately not a racist and sexist because of that, but because the person he is. People didnt say it about all other candidates, especially not if they act like Bernie for example. You would have a hard time to frame Sanders for being racist or sexist
2019-05-22 17:16
#45
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United States Trump2020KAG 
No I love Trump. I’m saying it as the lefts point of view on him. Trump was a Hollywood star in America. Was never a racist was never a sexist. The dudes owns miss America and miss universe how the fuck is that sexist. He is mentioned in 100s of rap songs he is friends with all the biggest black people in The world including very very good friends with Oprah. But now that he is president he’s racist sexist. I don’t get it.
2019-05-22 17:21
But its not true? People accused Trump of being racist way before he ran for president. People just care more about a racist president, than they care about a racist real estate investor. But people calling Trump racist or sexist isnt something taht started with im running, that was just when people saw it widely exposed.
2019-05-22 19:19
#129
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United States Tom_D_Cat 
If those are your arguments to prove he isn't racist or sexist, you're fuckin' dull
2019-05-23 22:30
#2
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Pakistan ostraka 
Probably 3/10 at max. I'd rate orange man 6/10.
2019-05-22 16:26
#28
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Better then 3 atleast.
2019-05-22 17:11
#30
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Pakistan ostraka 
Than*
2019-05-22 17:11
#37
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Ty.
2019-05-22 17:14
#3
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Germany zeolikk 
0/10
2019-05-22 16:25
#4
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Brazil BCzOCoachdaG3X 
hilary -10/10 orange bad man 7/10
2019-05-22 16:26
Hillary is no good, she just tried to say whatever she thought was popular
2019-05-22 16:29
Because thats how leftists work lul?
2019-05-22 16:58
And the rightstist also lul?
2019-05-22 21:34
And ur 2 dads also lul?
2019-05-23 06:36
My dad is dead and my mom is a hero. No problem having two dad, as an hetero I can say all men's are stupid. I would prefer 10x have a girl then a boy
2019-05-23 13:37
thats because you're a cuck
2019-05-23 16:48
Flag checkout lol
2019-05-23 17:40
No it's not
2019-05-23 04:09
#6
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Other xrist 
hillary sucks, bernie should have won
2019-05-22 16:29
#46
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Hillary > Bernie because Hillary wants to steal less money from US citizens.
2019-05-22 17:22
+1
2019-05-22 20:20
Thats a pretty hefty statement from someone that profits from money stolen from others every day.
2019-05-22 20:46
#88
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United States flyflit 
I mean at least Bernie "stealing" our money could have resulted in medicare for all, better education systems, and a higher minimum wage, transfer to renewable energy. Hilary would have probably destroyed Syria by now if she was president and would have basically done nothing to help the average American. That's exactly what establishment candidates do.
2019-05-22 20:52
#106
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Higher minimum wages means less jobs because businesses just fire low wage employees. No one is entitled to education or medicare, you have to work for that shit just like with anything else. Feeling entitled to the labor of other people is what pisses me off the most about the left.
2019-05-23 01:07
Minimum wage doesn't mean less jobs. Especially in a country like USA that doesn't have to suffer to international competition if they don't want to. How can a child work to pay his education or his health care? Unlike in some fancy african or asian country, children can't work. But perhaps you ideal is such kind of countries, it is your choice but usually it is the opposite way around. And the left is pissed by people like you, feeling entitled to the labor of other people (as far as I know Mr Bezos is not packing every sells of amazon himself, so is it not part of his money made on other people work?)
2019-05-23 04:17
#122
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Employees work for mr Bezos willingly. As far as i know, Bezos does not have any slaves, no? A child cannot pay for his education or healthcare. But children have parents. Yes, minimum wage litterarily means less jobs in every instance it has been implemented.
2019-05-23 20:24
Did I said he has slaves? You are avoiding the question. Usual for people unable to face facts. So, if it is normal for your own health and education (and so your success in life) only depend of your parents, you consider inheritance is more important than individual work. It is a point of view that was very common back then. But somehow, when Europe entered in the modern age, such nobility system has been vastly abandoned. But hey, I'm glad to see there still is supporters of the 17th century.
2019-05-23 21:14
#127
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
"And the left is pissed by people like you, feeling entitled to the labor of other people (as far as I know Mr Bezos is not packing every sells of amazon himself, so is it not part of his money made on other people work?)" Bezos is not entitled to the work of other people, Bezos pays people to do stuff for him. Bezos has established a contract between his employees and himself that both people agree to. Inheritance is the individual work of your parents, and if your parents want to give you the money that they worked hard for, that is their right. Life is not fair. The feudal system was not a matter of simply having a lot of money, but it was about bloodlines. The nobles did not have a contract with the peasants granting them a wage in return for their work. The nobles used the force of law to control peasants, which is the opposite of a free market system. You are forgetting that owning money costs money. If Bezos's kids want to continue to be as wealthy as their father they need to continue investing that money. They need to continue taking economic risks. That is the difference between billionaires and you, billionaires take risks whereas you get a set wage no matter if the company does good or badly
2019-05-23 22:22
Oh the famous economic risk to grind money. Not like it is how I make my own money, I take too much risk, I'm a damn hero.
2019-05-23 22:27
#114
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United States flyflit 
I don't think you're right on higher minimum wages. Also, in first one countries people SHOULD be entitled to education and medicare when they have the funds to support it. Who ever said you have to work for things like these? I didn't know there was some sort of Earth rule book that says you EARN education and health care. I'm not advocating for laziness, but when we have the opportunity to change what our taxes pay for, better education and good healthcare for everyone seems like it should be the highest priority. Especially when you take into account how expensive schooling is at the university level in America, and how ridiculously expensive healthcare and medicine is in America.
2019-05-23 08:14
#123
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Ever heard of health insurance or student loans? That is the non oppressive way of making sure every citizen can have healthcare and education.
2019-05-23 20:26
#125
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United States flyflit 
Ever heard of not being to afford health insurance? Ever heard of student loan debts that people can't pay off? Both of those are extremely common. Thousands of people die every year because they don't have medical insurance.
2019-05-23 21:18
#126
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Ever heard of asking your friends and family for help? Instead of using force to make strangers pay for your shit? And source on your claim of people dying from not being able to afford health insurance? Because not being able to afford and choosing not to get are two wildly different things.
2019-05-23 22:16
#130
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United States flyflit 
Asking your friends and family for help with paying for your medicine which can be in the thousands - tens of thousands? That's such a ridiculous idea. In what way are you making strangers pay for your shit? With taxes? Like we're already doing??? Also, here's some sources backing my claim that thousands of people are dying because they're uninsured. annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2635326/relat.. news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/n.. sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180604.. I also have anecdotal evidence of the costs of health insurance. I live in California where if you're a low income individual, you can be covered at no cost. The care only covers hospital visits, however. My mother has hepatitis C, hyperthyroidism, and a sponge kidney. Her medical insurance helped lower the price of her hep-c medicine (which was nearly 40k) down to 2k (still a shit ton of money). Here's the catch. She's currently working as a care taker under the table to pay her rent and utilities and if she reported how much she made, she would lose her health insurance and would have to pay out of pocket. This would most likely eventually kill her because she won't be able to pay for her own insurance, rent, utilities, food, and medicine.
2019-05-23 22:51
#131
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Other xrist 
"Ever heard of asking your friends and family for help? Instead of using force to make strangers pay for your shit? " Är helt lost of words, seriöst...
2019-05-26 02:08
#132
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Att inte använda våld för att hota andra människor för deras pengar som de jobbat för, helt otänkbart ellerhur?
2019-05-26 21:17
#133
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Other xrist 
Är du helt emot skatt och välfärd?
2019-05-26 23:05
#134
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
I princip ja, sen finns det saker som är absolut nödvändiga att organisera på ett statligt plan t.ex rättsväsendet
2019-05-26 23:50
#7
EliGE | 
United States AlphaCuck 
Awful candidate, I don't blame anyone who voted for Trump. Really the only thing she would have been better at is PR.
2019-05-22 16:30
#8
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France ponche 
YANG 2020 MAKE LIFE GREAT AGAIN
2019-05-22 16:34
Thats a pretty clear set of answers for now XD
2019-05-22 16:35
these people that talk about hillary like that think the fact cauliflower grows better in cold wet than yucca is an act of colonialism. In other words they dont know what the fuck they are talking about. Though she did terrible in the months leading to election, her resume if public service was A+ candidate status.
2019-05-22 16:38
LOL who cares about her public service resume. What mattered was her policy positions, which were already shit enough BEFORE she admitted to having public and private positions on every issue to please her donors.
2019-05-22 16:45
ya man, the fact that plants naturally grow where plants naturally grow is colonialism, and hillary's positions were bad. like i said, idiots saying this. Nah, fact is her negotiations and public service experience help guide the globe back on track leading to longest ever economic growth in USA history. Fact is, she was in the nucleus of that and you dont know what you are talking about.
2019-05-22 16:48
Economic growth that didn't do dick for average Americans. She didn't support Medicare for all, she was pro intervention in the Middle East, she wasn't going to do anything about crazy education costs, she wasn't going to do anything about the war on drugs, she had no problem with private prisons destroying people's lives, do I really need to go on? Representing the status quo in America makes you a shit candidate by default.
2019-05-22 16:53
you are naive, and she clearly was running on change, just not socialist utopian undeliverable positions. She was actually moving the needle towards all those things, through actual solutions. You have let good become the enemy of perfect, and you are going to be perpetually disappointed. I predict radicalization if you guys cant get your head out of your asses.
2019-05-22 17:05
"socialist utopian undeliverable positions" excuse me? You mean policies that literally every other 1st world country has, and yet I'm supposed to believe they're undeliverable? What Kool aid have you been drinking? The only one who needs to get their head out of their ass is you. You're a pathetic corporate sellout.
2019-05-22 17:11
haha, this is exactly what I mean, you have literally no idea about what you are talking about, in regards to the way american culture and democracy works, and about my positions personally. You are making wild assumptions and missing the mark, pretty muchj describes the politics I see here.
2019-05-22 17:13
No I know exactly how America works, and that's why I can see that it's desperately in need of reform. But go on, keep dismissing no brainer policies guaranteed to make this country a better place as "unattainable socialist utopia," even though they've been tried and tested and proven to be better systems.
2019-05-22 17:29
#89
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United States flyflit 
Andrew Yang Supporter DESTROYS Right Winger! (REACTION)
2019-05-22 20:54
#34
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United States Trump2020KAG 
She would have made America go to war with Russia or NKorea also. Not with Iran tho. They get money from them.
2019-05-22 17:13
Look you out meme'd hillary, you made people believe she eats babies in the basement of pizza parlors, you know how to manipulate idiots, unfortunately for your boy, we arnt all idiots.
2019-05-22 17:24
#49
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Who said I believed that shit????im not into conspiracy theories. Haha nice we got a never trumper hear HAHAHA how nice to see u.
2019-05-22 17:27
Yah I mean she has supported countless illegal wars, killing of millions of innocent people and also thousands of American soldiers, wasting trillions of $ in wars, tax cuts on rich, rising inequality,policies that lead to the stock market crash, taking money from cooperations ETC I can list 100 things if u want
2019-05-22 16:50
none of that happened lol nope, fact is not one war while she was in the state office. And tax cuts for the rich? what have you been smoking, wow. haha also, longest period of growth =/= stock market crash. You literally just typed a bunch of negative things with no basis in anything except the kool-aid
2019-05-22 16:52
yah OK ofc nothing of that happened, she didn't support Iraq and Afghanistan right? You want to tell me she is not corrupt? hahaahahaha votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/55463/.. Maybe that will help you
2019-05-22 16:56
oh, so now you move your goal posts because literally none of the things you said happened.
2019-05-22 17:07
How is it possible that you are that delusional? She supported both wars FACTS, just Google "Hillary Iraq" And her votes on tax cuts, continuing wars, against regulating stock market etc I send u her voting record so u can see yourself or you may want to Google every single thing I wrote and u will come to the same conclusion. How is it possible that a German political science student knows so much more than a brainwashed American? xDD Not surprised at all
2019-05-22 17:12
I think I will wait and see the outcome of whats going on in EU in regards to stability before I listen to anything you have to say. It seems to me you are watching the house burn down while insulting america.
2019-05-22 17:14
So after you have nothing left to do because there are no factual arguments you can bringt against me you start to make some irrelevant claims about Europe? xD
2019-05-22 17:16
you said something about being a superior political scientist. But the only political science I am seeing from Europe left is how to give up an almost continent wide super majority
2019-05-22 17:17
I never said I'm superior, I just said it doesn't surprise me that you don't know basic facts since you have no degree in politics.
2019-05-22 17:19
#90
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United States flyflit 
Honestly you don't need a degree in politics to know basic facts. This dude is just delusional.
2019-05-22 20:57
you don't, still having a degree usually implies that a certain level of basic knowledge is present at least exceeding the extent of which from guestguy2
2019-05-22 21:01
#93
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United States flyflit 
Yeah, definitely. It seems like he picks and chooses what to learn and what not to learn when it comes to politics lmao
2019-05-22 21:04
OK so I will set some boundaries: Sanders: 9/10 Obama: 4/10 Biden: 3/10 Sebastian Kurz : 2/10 Trump: 1/10 Bolsonaro: 0/10 I would rate her 2.5/10
2019-05-22 16:42
yea kinda
2019-05-22 16:48
Bolsonaro 100/10 😎😎
2019-05-22 17:08
#53
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Brazil UKita 
So, bolsonaro is 10x more left than the others?
2019-05-22 17:35
No he is 100/10 rating 100 = the very perfect super ultra mega duper fucking amazingly awesome 10 = good 0 = bad -100 = Maduro
2019-05-22 17:37
#58
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Brazil UKita 
Don't you think it is too soon to rate him like this?
2019-05-22 18:00
nah ez 100
2019-05-22 18:24
Also rating Obama pretty low, nice :D Thanks for the answer btw!
2019-05-22 19:13
yh ofc, he was not that different to Biden and Hillary. Though after reconsideration I might say 4.5 or rather 1st presidency 4/10 and second 5/10, especially toward the end he did some great things
2019-05-22 19:17
Expectations of him where pretty high. Somehow Bernie is the first leftist politiocian I have seen in a long time, that actually knows how to do stuff. He has done an incredible job in Vermont, a state that afaik was very conservative and leaning towards republicans historically. He started small and did a good job in basically all his positions and gained trust from the people. This also makes it almost impossible to dig up skeletons of Bernies side. You will mostly only find succesful politics.
2019-05-22 19:24
yh cnn/msnbc and fox News try to smear Bernie with old clips were embarrassing I agree. There is no doubt that his campaign was way more left than his actual presidency, he also had some questionable decisions before. Bernie is an equivalent to Gregor Gysi in Germany with actual experience in governing and a "Better" (in terms of more votes) party. I mean he is not technically a part of the democrats still he is running for them.
2019-05-22 19:28
Dude I love Gysi. I think he made mistakes when he was younger, but the guy is an incredible persona. Even though I dont vote for "Die Linke", I always had huge respect for Gysi. And I guess you talked about those very old bernie-clips. I dont even know what should be so bad about them. I think they need something alot bigger to actually hurt Bernie.
2019-05-22 19:30
yes me too main reason why I entered the party a couple of years ago. Voting in Germany is rough atm. Die Linke is a shit Show inside even though there are many great iIndividuals. Cdu, Afd and FDP are no option for obvious reasons. Die Piraten are too small, SPD has questionable members like Katarina Barley, Siegmar Gabriel or Olaf Scholz and obviously governed horrible during the last 2 decades. Die Grünen are not offering the solutions I would like at least towards social policies and have very very questionable economical policies (visions ofc).
2019-05-22 19:40
I agree with basically everything tbh. But to be fair, I still think overall we are doing good. There arent really many countries which have good left politics/politicians. The mainreason. The USA are alot more fucked since ages. Only 2 parties basically. And atm one side is a mix of conservatism, rightism and white supremacists, while the otherside consists of economical globalists and gatekeepers of the industry and some leftists. If you are to the left of the center in any way, you will have a hard time to decide who to vote for. Choosing between Clinton and Trump is just an awful decision to be made if you consider yourself a leftist.
2019-05-22 19:49
yh accurate on US. But We are doing good, yes I mean in comparison we do, but with climate change coming, aging of our society and growing inequality we have still some problems that should be worked on.
2019-05-22 19:52
#92
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United States flyflit 
You literally nailed the US on the head. Our media is responsible for a lot of our citizens not understanding politics properly as well. At this point it's "pop politics." CNN is a shit show of establishment reporters supporting establishment democrats, while Fox literally brainwashes their boomer audience. I live in a conservative county in the Sierra Nevada in California and work a retail job currently. I hear older people regurgitate what they hear on Fox news like "Alexandria Ocasio Cortez wants to get rid of the cows!"
2019-05-22 21:03
Thats actually fucking sad :/ I always try to avoid certain media in germany aswell, as alot is pretty fucking bad. I live without a TV for roughly 7 years now aswell. I think if Bernie actually becomes president, does a good job, gets reelected because of that and keeps doing a good job, conservatives will be dead for a while. If he can magane to bring similar healthcare etc to the USA than we have in germany for example, tons of people will benefit from that. Most americans dont get what it is they just call "socialism". I know about certain laws in the USA and its just sad when i realized that this is actually how it works in america. Starting from healthcare. Also how unsafe many jobs are and how easy people can get fired and america doesnt have paid sick leave?! "Currently, nine US states (Arizona, California, Connecticut, Maryland, Massachusetts, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington); 23 US cities; and two US counties (Montgomery County, MD and San Francisco County, CA) have laws mandating paid sick leave". Dude thats unthinkable in germany. If you get sick because of whatever reason, you still need money to survive. If you dont cant earn money for 2 weeks because you suffer from an illness, it can threaten your whole life, as many people live from month to month on the edge of waht they can afford. Seriously its ridicolous how so many americans actually dont want that kind of healthcare, payment and social treatment. Its like they want to suffer.
2019-05-22 21:12
#99
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United States flyflit 
The working mentality in America is extreme. We've essentially been brought up to think that it's okay to bust your ass 24/7 to live. Its most likely due to us being exploited by massive corporations. Young people in the country seem to have a good understanding of progress in terms of politics, though. That's why Bernie is doing so well at the moment. The polls currently show Biden leading (very biased sample pools for some of these polls in terms of age) but I think when the debates start in June we'll see him drop because he sticks his foot in his mouth constantly. Bernie, Warren, Yang, and Gabbard will soar because their messages actually reside with the average Americans and they all have concrete policy positions. Biden talks like a politician. The progressives talk like people.
2019-05-22 21:30
#102
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United States flyflit 
In terms of people not wanting medicare for all, I think that actually around 70% of the country wants it. The right has been brainwashed with the "socialism" word. It's a genius political strategy if you think about it. Call someone who refers to themselves as a democratic socialist, a socialist and immediately anyone over the age of 50 thinks that they're a communist. People believe it. It's unreal.
2019-05-22 21:34
Yeah, I think we agree on basically all points regarding this. Thanks for the good talk! I wish your country best luck in 2020
2019-05-22 21:38
#104
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United States flyflit 
Thank you I really appreciate that. I'm going to do my best to turn my current county around. Good luck to you too!
2019-05-22 21:48
That is interesting, I would agree on the CNN part though I actually always thought that there can't be people actually believing what they are talking on fox news. I mean on CNN while there are more often than not biased informations and reports there is also more often than not factually true content (ofc not always). On the other hand on fox you are confronted permanently with absolutely ridiculous "facts"
2019-05-22 21:16
Trump
2019-05-22 16:49
Ohh how cute, the little shitbrah learned his first word! :D
2019-05-22 19:31
She was worst possible candidate from the Democrats. Bernie would be much better. 2/10
2019-05-22 16:54
Totally agree
2019-05-22 19:13
I don't know, maybe 3/10 I don't think that she's that popular here, even among leftists
2019-05-22 17:18
I thinkthe same, I asked this question because I always hear rghtists bringing up Hillary out of nowhere and whenever I ask why they switch Topic to Hillary they say "Because leftists live Hillary" Oo Tbh you cant be left and in favor of her.
2019-05-22 19:14
I mean most of the democrat candidates aren't leftist for us Europeans anyway Democrats are obviously not as far right as republicans, but they are still right from our point of view Bernie Sanders was the closest to european leftism maybe ?
2019-05-22 20:16
Yeah, I think he is, but I also think he is more knowledgable than many european politicians. Bernie is a person of reason. There is a certain destinction between deing factual and being a person of reason. The right says: Fact before feelings/emotions. And I mostly actually agree. But with reason we can combine these 2. Emotions arent just anooying things that twist "reality", our feelings and emotions are very real for humans and we should treat them that way. Its also fucking confusing to argue with certain rightists, that are clearly VERY emotional about the topic and yet they talk about facts over feelings and call other snowflakes Oo I dont understand why people started acting like having emotions is a sin.
2019-05-22 20:41
#48
allu | 
Sweden Dguyg 
I consider myself a left-winger. Rating Hillary would be a hard thing, if compared to other american politicians I would probably give her a 4/10. If she ran in Sweden though, her score would probably be a 1/10
2019-05-22 17:35
Lel. I feel you.
2019-05-22 19:15
#51
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Taiwan BrazilianDude 
Hillary: pedophile with globalist elite, kill inocent people, war without explanation. Killary clinton
2019-05-22 17:31
Are you a leftist?
2019-05-22 19:15
Why would you call her lefty? Cause she was in oposite to Big Bad Orange Man? I think she just wanted to say everything that was popular during election to win.
2019-05-22 17:32
Well, I dont know why people call her a leftist. Its never a leftist thats call her that though.
2019-05-22 19:16
#55
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
-99/+100
2019-05-22 17:51
#56
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United States Scvboy1 
1/10 and I'd go lower if I could. She's really just a neo-con pretending to be neo-liberal.
2019-05-22 17:55
Everything in USA is right-winged. /THREAD
2019-05-22 17:58
But thats not true BibleThumb
2019-05-22 19:24
Tell me more
2019-05-23 08:04
relative to europe I guess
2019-05-22 19:41
#68
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India otgps 
0/10
2019-05-22 19:19
Bernie is better and that woman who loves taxes (dont remember her name).
2019-05-22 20:00
#94
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United States flyflit 
Elizabeth Warren?
2019-05-22 21:06
Yes, thanks.
2019-05-23 16:20
#81
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Latvia Ke]R[4u 
i think you are confusing lefties and democrats
2019-05-22 20:20
Nah, Im not. Im confused why many (mainly american rigthists) always say the left loves Hillary, when in my eyes, you cant be a lefty AND love Hillary.
2019-05-22 20:42
nobody who's an actual leftist likes hillary.
2019-05-22 20:23
Yeah, after reading this thread, i think its safe to say that leftists liking Hillary is a strawman.
2019-05-22 20:43
BOLSONARO IS TRAAASSH, FUCKING COMMIE
2019-05-22 20:44
In France she wouldn't be considered as left. But you know, just a murican thing.
2019-05-22 21:17
judging by this photo: gyazo.com/07fd2f1d7b8906355183b67ae8028f.. +decent bonestructure (especially chin and cheekbones) +decent nose +good eyebrows -upper eyelid exposure -ugly smile -nose-mouth wrinkles -bloated face her cuck eyes kill her whole harmoney, i'd give her a 5.5/10
2019-05-22 21:23
okay
2019-05-22 21:32
im a commie, fuck hilary shes a warmongering imperialist capitalist
2019-05-22 21:50
Hor garbage. If Dems want to win they cant pull another hillary aka someone like biden.
2019-05-23 04:12
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United States Acehavok 
She’s better than Trump on social issues but just as bad if not worse than Trump fiscally. To me it’s better in the long run for the Democratic Party that she lost in 2016. Showed that these corporatists aren’t what people want. Bernie 2020 YangGang 2020 MilfGabbard 2020
2019-05-23 04:20
Hillary is an example of how skewed the political scale in USA is. She's a coward populist that changes her opinions all the time thus having no ideological basis, she's simply put a spineless politician that simply wants to get elected into office.
2019-05-23 04:29
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Czech Republic VeryCzechGuy 
Trump is an example of how skewed the political scale in USA is. He's a coward populist that changes his opinions all the time thus having no ideological basis, he's simply put a spineless politician that simply wants to get elected into office.
2019-05-23 17:41
Yes the same can certainly be said about Trump, that's no surprise.
2019-05-23 19:33
Hillary has nothing to do with lefty politics, US politics is garbage and so is Hillary. But I would still rate her Higher than Trump.
2019-05-23 16:24
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