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Awp needs a nurf
Denmark Lars69420 
A fucking silver can kill a pro with it literally just point and shoot
2019-05-24 13:35
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India Noobdian1 
No
2019-05-24 13:36
No
2019-05-24 13:38
#3
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Russia parovozik 
probably yes, because its 10x times easier to kill with awp in csgo than in cs 1.6
2019-05-24 13:39
+1, in csgo: bigger models, slower models, no movement like in cs 1.6 so you barely can bait the shot etc
2019-05-24 13:51
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Russia parovozik 
i didnt really mean that in csgo awp is way much more accurate comparing to cs 1.6
2019-05-24 13:56
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cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Well I remember especially on noscope that 1.6 was way more reliable to this. But maybe my memory is playing tricks on me or I was just a better player aimwise back than
2019-05-24 14:11
If I understood correctly: Yes, the noscope in CS 1.6 was EZ AF.
2019-05-24 14:14
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cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
yea you understood correctly :)
2019-05-24 14:18
1.6 awp was assault rifle for me. I would just roam around with it and quickscope the shit outta everyone.
2019-05-24 14:56
How can you quickscope if you dont even have a toilet mans)))
2019-05-24 15:58
quite astonished to see there is even a country named Estonia, but what about it?
2019-05-24 16:39
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD toiletless indian pedophile talking XDDDDDDD
2019-05-24 18:44
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Ukraine volanchick 
Not really. You can't quickscope with 100% accuracy.
2019-05-24 14:53
#119
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Sweden @fimpen 
Lie it was 10* easier to kill with awp in 1,6 then go
2019-05-24 15:30
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France SpooceCooke 
just like a silver can kill a pro with any other weapon if he's lucky enough
2019-05-24 13:39
Its easier with awp, much easier
2019-05-24 13:46
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France SpooceCooke 
and?
2019-05-24 13:47
The gun is too easy to use, everything else in cs is somewhat "hard" to use why shouldn't the AWP be too? You go and play mm in gold nova almost all of them only uses AWP cuz they think they are gods with it but in reality it's just easy to use.
2019-05-24 13:50
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France SpooceCooke 
But it"s also incredibly easy to counter at lower levels. If these players were better, the awp wouldn't be a problem. So they just have to improve and adapt, games are the way they are and if you're reaaaally unhappy just don't play the game
2019-05-24 13:51
Considering it.
2019-05-24 13:52
Its easy to counter, but if you dont expect the enemy to have the awp, at least 1 person from your team will die before figuring it out
2019-05-24 14:39
so that happens in pro matches too, same if the enemy team force buys, you have no way to know until they shoot or use utility
2019-05-24 14:59
where is your point? Yes a silver can kill a pro but he still loses the vast majority of duels. The weapon is not overpowered in competitive play.
2019-05-24 13:39
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Iceland da9 
^ how do you even complain about the awp, just play around it thats why u use nades or shoulder peek
2019-05-24 13:43
This is a dumbass thread to begin with anyway tbh.
2019-05-24 14:16
#75
Iceland da9 
true, all awp nerf threads are dumb af. Awp has already been nerfed and personaly i prefer the old awp as it was so much more versatile, but i still could find ways to work around it
2019-05-24 14:18
I too prefer the old awp, but I can't disagree with it being nerfed. I liked how much skill could be put into it with the old movement speed, but for the overall game of CS, it's not a problem it got nerfed.
2019-05-24 14:20
#79
Iceland da9 
Fax, i miss the 2014-2015 csgo, nowadays cs is taking much more beginner friendly approach with making maps wider(halways etc) and completely ruining the CT dominance that it used to be before on inferno or nuke. It was much more fun being happy with 4 rounds T side inferno and going into CT trying to comeback, CS was more of a challenging game at that time,
2019-05-24 14:23
I miss the old awp sound.. It was perfect, it was like a remastered version of the 1.6 & Source awp. Now it sounds like shit. :D I also remember everybody complaining about the new footstep sounds back then, like it was a cavalry of horses running towards bombsites, yet we've all gotten so used to those changes. I never really believed in T or CT sided maps though, the matches themselves rather unfold to be either T or CT sided.
2019-05-24 14:27
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Iceland da9 
Same miss the old sounds. True but on the average the game was much more of a CT side. I remember playing with my friends starting T side and saying " ait boys lets try to get 4-5 rounds" and we were happy with that. Because we knew CT side is much easier to dominate. But it could go both ways
2019-05-24 14:29
It was an example my point was a guy with a decent reflex can kill a much better guy.
2019-05-24 13:43
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
so someone who has good relexes (and is therefore naturally skilled at the game) and a more expensive gun is sometimes able to kill a player with a better gun who has more hours. yes this is bad bait
2019-05-24 13:59
decent
2019-05-24 14:00
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
no your bait is bad
2019-05-24 14:02
Then we should nerf the dealge too? you can kill somebody with 700$ who has kevlar+helmet + awp= 5750$ ?? such an dumb argumentation
2019-05-24 13:42
You can do that with ak too? its only head though with the AWP its the entire upper body.
2019-05-24 13:45
But AK costs 4x more than deagle??
2019-05-24 13:49
the deagle only 1 shots in the head, so does the ak, therefore no problem but the AWP one-shots everywhere except the legs
2019-05-24 13:51
Except the awp costs almost twice what the ak does, is incredibly slow and if you miss, you're in a real bad spot.
2019-05-24 14:01
Not if you are smart enough to fall back to hold another angle
2019-05-24 14:04
That's the exact opposite of the point he is trying to make. Deagle requires skill to kill, it's 100x harder to kill someone with Deagle than with AWP, therefore it doesn't need a nerf. Even pros can't consistently kill people with deagle (otherwise they would use it all the time).
2019-05-24 15:18
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Sweden jonatancs 
what about draken LUL 0/8 mens ))
2019-05-24 13:44
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India aj0102 
LOL
2019-05-24 13:47
lul
2019-05-24 14:58
LUL
2019-05-24 15:21
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Germany fjdeN 
What would the Kids do if they play in 2k12 when the zoom didnt have a slow...
2019-05-24 13:47
+1
2019-05-24 13:51
That was horrible I remember that thanks God they at least made a small nurf
2019-05-24 13:56
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Denmark Xipingu 
Except every single awper I see who is an actual non-smurf MGE and below literally has reaction times where I could go down to 7-eleven and pick up a few sodas, be back, take aim and still shoot the guy before any reaction happens. So this is a 0/8
2019-05-24 13:47
7/11
2019-05-24 13:49
#34
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Denmark Xipingu 
My bad
2019-05-24 13:53
Playing with people with bad reaction has actually got me killed several times, because I try to bait their shot with shoulder peek, but their reaction is so bad that they don't shoot. Then when I actually go peek they kill me
2019-05-24 15:27
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Maldives luros 
if someone wants to make a pimp thread pm me ...ty
2019-05-24 13:48
#17
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France SpooceCooke 
AYO ok let's do this : if you have a higher rank, YOU CANNOT DIE FROM INFERIOR RANKED PLAYERS otherwise it means the weapons they were using need to be nerfed How does that sound?
2019-05-24 13:48
autistic
2019-05-24 13:51
#31
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France SpooceCooke 
There you go))
2019-05-24 13:52
xaxaxa))))))))
2019-05-24 13:52
no
2019-05-24 13:48
enurf said
2019-05-24 13:50
so people complain about the AWP but not about the pistols being super easy to handle and you can literally win a pistol force any time. Every other shooter has AWP's which are as strong as the csgo awp, but no other shooter has that kind of broken pistols yet nobody complains xD
2019-05-24 13:50
Pistols werent adjusted enough too, but they are not as op as they were before. Csgo models are slower and bigger than in 1.6, also theres no movement so its harder to bait the shot than in 1.6. Thats why awp is easier to use than in 1.6
2019-05-24 13:53
silvers dont buy awp they buy p90 xDD
2019-05-24 13:51
It was an example my man
2019-05-24 13:55
That should be what makes the pro a pro. He'll probably know exactly how to control the awper or to avoid unfavorable duels. If anyone ever who knows the basics of aiming plays a infinite number of rounds against a pro player he SHOULD get at least a single kill. :p AWP is by no means overpowered, it has it's downsides and risks.
2019-05-24 13:51
"it has it's downsides and risks." Like?
2019-05-24 13:55
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
the cost, bad peripheral vision, the speed, time between shots make you easy to trade etc you seem like someone who has never played csgo
2019-05-24 14:01
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Aleksib | 
Finland tmu 
If you miss your first shot you are basically dead. It costs a lot of money so if you don't make an impact with it and you die instantly you just lost 4750.
2019-05-24 14:06
Not if you are smart enough to fall back to hold another angle
2019-05-24 14:08
#62
Aleksib | 
Finland tmu 
ofc but sometimes you can't fall back
2019-05-24 14:12
To be fair depends on the scenario
2019-05-24 14:13
#88
Aleksib | 
Finland tmu 
true
2019-05-24 14:28
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Germany vncnnt 
Thats what makes pro players better then every other play, decision making map knowledge etc. Stupid thread
2019-05-24 14:13
Okay..? and what does that have to do with the awp?
2019-05-24 14:15
#78
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Germany vncnnt 
U can't just run around an kill everybody with the awp so It doenst need a nerf
2019-05-24 14:21
Have you even played csgo?
2019-05-24 14:10
Have you?
2019-05-24 14:11
Great answer, 5/5 gj job
2019-05-24 14:14
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Stewie2K | 
Australia Taqo 
I mean if you're that salty, Just smg rush him? whats he gonna do? shoot once every 3 seconds. If you still die then it's your fault and not the guns lol
2019-05-24 13:56
Even close range its not hard to play with awp
2019-05-24 14:01
if he dies with an smg vs awp hes going to rage like a baby and complain about how bad his teammates are
2019-05-24 14:08
crynomore
2019-05-24 13:59
in mm, a lot of times there are like 3-4 awps on ct - still working well Not sure about nerfing, but it should at least be more expensive
2019-05-24 14:07
"still working well" that's the problem
2019-05-24 14:07
Its supposed to work well, the fuck are you talking about. Learn how to bait out a shot from the awper, use flashes and smokes and incendiaries if u die too much from the awpers
2019-05-24 14:10
"Its supposed to work well" that's exactly the problem
2019-05-24 14:11
It costs $4750 + no one hits every shot the take
2019-05-24 14:12
4750 really isn't much, you can get that in 3 rounds, yeah it would be stupid but it is possible.
2019-05-24 14:14
"Isn't really that much" It's alot, because by the third round you have likely already gone for an force in the second round if u got the bomb plant in the first round. So if you lost the force, one player maybe has enough money to buy up an awp without armor and nades (which is really important for the t side), the rest of the team probably has full armor, ak, and some nades. The thing is that most pro teams have a dedicated awper, an example is GuardiaN. GuardiaN is a dedicated awper because he can win rounds with his awp. My point is that if GuardiaN loses his awp (dies), and his team wins the round no one on his team will be able to buy up an awp on the fourth round because they already fully invested into nades and ak's and full armor, so GuardiaN has to be dropped one ak from one of his teammates because he has to save up for an awp and be able to buy full armor and nades on the fourth round. So there is a reason why it's so expensive.
2019-05-24 14:26
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Romania Anonym20 
nope
2019-05-24 14:07
Silver logic as usual.
2019-05-24 14:08
#59
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Finland FocusMen 
no u suck maybe bait or flash For real tho Bot allu and device are silvers
2019-05-24 14:11
I agree man, should remove the 8x and replace it with 4x only
2019-05-24 14:15
Would be nice, maybe turn down the damage a little bit too
2019-05-24 14:16
Yes, and make it less bullets too, only 5bullets/magazine
2019-05-24 14:24
So we would have two scouts?
2019-05-24 14:26
Or just remove one of them
2019-05-24 14:27
So you would like to see 5 augs/m4s vs 5 aks?
2019-05-24 14:29
yeah
2019-05-24 14:32
0/8
2019-05-24 14:39
#73
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Germany VeryColdGuy 
ok! its easy kill with deagle, just got a angle, and 1tap on head. NERF DEAGLE
2019-05-24 14:17
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Finland Autisthicc 
you're retarded, that's not the same at all lmao. that's like saying knife is op because it can oneshot and on top of that the knife is freee!!!!! wtf knife is so op maen!!!!
2019-05-24 15:28
if the AWP is so op, why isn't every pro using it)))?
2019-05-24 14:19
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Brunei GucciLele 
Spoken like a true GN1.. It it not a requirement to be GE to have a HLTV account anymore? Wtf men
2019-05-24 14:25
why I don't see any silver ever beat a pro then? weird... a noob is a noob, no matter the weapon. awp actually takes skill to be consistently efficient but only good players will understand I guess. it's about timing and positioning. maybe u go on and try to point and shoot the pro players first, because I haven't seen it done YET!
2019-05-24 14:26
Disagree but it's still fun to trash talk awpers cuz they're bad
2019-05-24 14:28
u have mental problems
2019-05-24 14:29
I hate threads like these, the AWP is OP? How? Just because it kills in one hit? You mean how it always used to be? If they would lower the dmg of the awp why would anyone actually buy it, they could just buy a scout and have more mobility and same damage for less money... Also if you get killed by AWPs so much, you should probably learn to play around them, that's why teams just don't buy 5 AWPs, because you can't expect it to work everywhere and every time.
2019-05-24 14:31
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United States Troglxdyte 
The awp doesn't need to be nerfed. Rifles need to be buffed. All rifles should have 100% standing, first bullet accuracy. Nerf them long range by reducing damage over distance. Valve could also remove NoSpread from the sprays and just make the spray patterns more difficult. I rather have to shoot an awper in the head with an ak twice than dealing with a 50/50 chance my perfect headshot will hit. crouch speed and movement acceleration could be reduced, all of this would greatly reduce the rng in this game and make this a skill base game. This is how you "fix" csgo. But if there was a direct awp nerf I'd say to increase time in between shots, there are many places an awper can sit and miss indefinitely and repeek before you have a chance to move further up to closer cover.
2019-05-24 14:33
yea silver level player holding an angle with awp could easily kill pro player
2019-05-24 14:34
If the awp is so good, why most teams have 4 riflers and 1 awper? Some don't even have a dedicated awper.
2019-05-24 14:41
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Brazil PhoKiLL 
WTF? You're a silver? Don't know how to use utilities against AWPers? For this reason we use smokes, flashes and molotov's. This is one of the reasons. If a "Pro Player" rush like crazy through the middle of the map, without using any smoke, flash or molotov, the problem isn't the Silver Player killing him with AWP, but this "Pro Player" is playing less than a Silver Player, for not using anything.
2019-05-24 14:58
#113
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Finland Autisthicc 
cool dude
2019-05-24 15:25
A good player (Above LEM) with AWP will have average hit rate with AWP around 50%, For pro players the hit rate will be around 70-80%. For silvers it will be like 10 to 20% . Means they will connect one or two shots when they shoot 10 bullets. Let me know your percentage!!!
2019-05-24 14:54
100% I only use the AWP once and I hit my only shot ez pz
2019-05-24 15:00
nerf btw
2019-05-24 14:57
point and shoot, just like with an ak
2019-05-24 15:01
Silvers always miss shots
2019-05-24 15:02
#110
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Denmark Sir_Cumcised 
Fuck off Lars
2019-05-24 15:03
#114
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
Good logic, that's why it's OP.
2019-05-24 15:25
I understand , I wreck GN2-GN4 players and 1 of the guy was playing since 2016 but I wreck him lmao and I'm just SEM. Btw not making excuse I should be MG1 by now but russians and cooldown keeps pulling my rank down hahahah.
2019-05-24 15:28
#118
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Finland Autisthicc 
yea bro wtf fucking russians kids using op guns bro wtf yo bro life just aint fair yo bro
2019-05-24 15:29
True lmao , I laugh when they said don't awp becoz i went for the save or I miss 2 shots or die with it...bruh I literally give the information to the team by killing the bomber like wtf. Also RUSSIANS should have there own CSGO hahahahhaha
2019-05-24 15:31
nerf pls
2019-05-24 15:30
People who don't think AWP is OP must be really really really bad with AWP, because it is so easy to use it. On a CT side you literally just buy AWP and hold angle. Even when I am having a bad aim day I just buy AWP and win the game. Then I feel bad because I think it was undeserved. I actively avoid using AWP, because I don't want to get used to it and then play like shit when I need to play with rifle. (GE rank)
2019-05-24 15:52
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Other delmaszm 
of course it's easy to get a kill if you peek like a retard learn to use your nades and play with your friends then you'll see AWP don't need anymore nerf your "just go back and hold another angle" argument is shit. double pick the awp he can't kill 2 guys unless he gets lucky with a collat also 1.6 awp was way more powerful
2019-05-24 16:06
nurf
2019-05-24 16:05
nerf it so it deals 99dmg
2019-05-24 16:06
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