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Bullshit Major Slots
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United States n0rdie 
Right now each region (Americas EU CIS Asia) has 2 major slots that they can qualify for. CIS and Asia should only have 1 major slot because they are garbage, and EU should have 4 because they are gud g4m3rs
2019-05-25 17:10
+1
2019-05-25 17:11
Why do we have this conversation before every major? It's really not that hard to understand. Valve wants the scene to grow, and it can't if they aren't given a chance. A major is also the celebration of the game, like the fifa world cup, which also has slots for the whole world, despite eu and sa being a lot better. Thirdly, it's not like those teams are garbage. Just think about gambit, Vega, vici, rng
2019-05-25 17:18
#5
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United States n0rdie 
imo the best way for the scene to grow would be to have the best teams at majors to show off top level gameplay. renegades is already in the major, and gambit vega and vici are bad
2019-05-25 17:39
that doesn't expand the scene to other regions. And Gambit won a fucking major ffs
2019-05-25 18:00
#7
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United States n0rdie 
it expands other regions and gives other regions to get good. and gambits ranked #154 rn, and ummmm hltv.org/news/26850/gambit-put-primary-l..
2019-05-25 21:30
that's not my fucking point, they come from the CIS minor and won a major.
2019-05-25 21:40
#13
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United States n0rdie 
so? just bc got a fluke major win doesnt mean they r good. eu has 10 wins and 9 finals. cis 1 (fluke) win and 3 finals. americas 3 wins + 2 finals, asia has jack shit. they dont deserve a slot and the major should have the best possible competition.
2019-05-25 21:45
If they had used your idea, the brazilian scene would've never developed. Most esports are a huge thing in Asia, it's only a matter of time until they break into CS as well.
2019-05-25 22:10
#83
Loh | 
Russia Romashish 
+1
2019-06-02 07:34
#95
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United States n0rdie 
They have been in case for a long time. There not good. It will take a long time for them to break cs. Multiple years. ??? Brazil would still 100 percent develope. Hand if they used my idea, America's would have 2-3 slots, so they would have equal slots as they do now, or better slots
2019-06-02 09:31
#74
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
I think there should be 4 EU slots and 4 ASIAN slots. I think thats a fair deal.
2019-06-01 07:04
you are dumb af, not listening to arguments :(
2019-06-02 07:37
#93
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United States n0rdie 
I am there just dumb arguements
2019-06-02 09:31
Your idea just killing all the world CSGO scenes
2019-06-02 07:44
#94
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United States n0rdie 
Wrong
2019-06-02 09:28
No, just believe me
2019-06-02 11:13
#140
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United States n0rdie 
no
2019-06-02 22:53
Ok
2019-06-02 23:06
#92
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United States skroobdoober 
+1 C9 NA 0 legit majors
2019-06-02 07:55
#109
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Japan @0x0 
No major win is a fluke, you have to win several games to get there
2019-06-02 10:23
#111
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United States n0rdie 
That's wrong. C9 dropped off hard after their win
2019-06-02 10:26
#112
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Japan @0x0 
It's true, Gambit didn't fluke all of their wins
2019-06-02 10:26
#115
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United States n0rdie 
No but they shouldn't have won. They couldn't stay a high level team
2019-06-02 10:32
#117
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Japan @0x0 
They shouldn't have won vs Astralis but they won all their other games, Zeus going to Na'Vi fucked Gambit over
2019-06-02 10:43
#141
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United States n0rdie 
exactly
2019-06-02 22:53
#144
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Japan @0x0 
So they didn't fluke all their wins
2019-06-03 01:37
#146
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United States n0rdie 
Not all but they should not have won the major and they dropped off after the major so the major win was a fluke
2019-06-03 02:16
#147
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Japan @0x0 
Except it didn't happen because of chance as they had the skill to win all their other games
2019-06-03 02:21
err... that's not how expansion works my friend, and #4 is indeed right
2019-05-25 21:42
#18
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United States n0rdie 
lots of regions have 1 good team already in the major. brazil mibr, cis navi, na liquid, asia renegades. 1 good team doesnt give your region more major slots. cis has 3 teams in top 30, denmark has 5
2019-05-25 21:49
#75
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
My bad.
2019-06-01 07:05
#46
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Germany Neckarstadion 
You don't "expand the scene" by giving slots to shitty teams that get slammed 0-3 in the main qualifier stage without putting up a fight. If a scene is improving and growing, it would increase the teams of the region in the major by itself simply by going 1-3 or better in the challenger stage and qualifying for the next major, thus opening up more spaces for their region through that, like Avangar and Renegades did at the last Major.
2019-05-27 05:50
But it does work... tyloo finally made it to the next stage last year, which allowed vici to qualify for the major and they exceeded expectations immediately.
2019-05-27 06:59
#132
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Denmark MeToxi 
Simply by doing that they made sure that a lot of good european teams DIDN'T qualify? The major in itself is supposed to be the tournament that everybody wants to do really well in. But isn't it then unfair if valve favoritise asian teams over european teams simply to expand the scene? The majors is supposed to represent the best of the best. If they want to expand scenes then they should make another tournament focused on that instead of ruining the integrity of majors. Sure, asian teams should have a chance at the majors but not at the cost of everybody else.
2019-06-02 13:44
#96
KRIMZ | 
Romania moetxxx 
i remember in that time everyone say cis is shit and then gambit won the major btw transilvania is ours
2019-06-02 09:33
That's a terrible way to expand the scene
2019-06-01 06:55
#36
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Algeria RunGo))) 
+1 i think valve needs to make an african qualifier as well
2019-05-27 03:47
+100000
2019-05-27 04:12
#66
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Finland Vkims 
You do realise that in world cup EU has more slots than anyother region because they are best region. If things were like in world cup, EU would have more slots in major than Asia
2019-06-01 00:03
But there are no direct invites like in cs. They need to make sure that the best teams are there, and then they fill up the remaining slots with teams from all around the world, just like in cs
2019-06-01 06:35
#77
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yea, And theres no invites to the Major aswell.
2019-06-01 07:06
But there is? The top 8 teams get invited to the next major
2019-06-01 20:21
#79
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
no.... The teams that get into the Legends stage from the previous major is automatically in... They dont get invited
2019-06-02 01:35
#80
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Oh i just reread your comment. Yes but thats not a invite.
2019-06-02 01:37
You can call it what you want, it has the same effect: the best teams (from valve's pov) are guaranteed at the major
2019-06-02 07:32
#84
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
No, the teams that make it to the play offs are guaranteed at the major
2019-06-02 07:34
So eu does have more slots because they have many legends. The problem is solved and viewers from all over gets a team they can cheer for
2019-06-02 07:51
Those are the best teams from valve's pov, since they have nothing to do with other tournaments
2019-06-02 14:07
OMFG... The people who make it to the legends stage from the previous major autimatically Qualify for the next major. NOT a INVITE. The people who win 1 game in the legends stage to become a legend goes the the Qualify stage. And the people who didnt win a game goes to the minor system
2019-06-03 04:00
#101
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Finland Faifainei 
Technically because the best teams from last majors are already in the major it is true in csgo too.
2019-06-02 09:45
+1
2019-06-01 06:46
#8
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
+1
2019-05-25 21:31
#10
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
It's dumb, but it's supposed to be international.
2019-05-25 21:37
Dota has The International.
2019-05-25 21:45
#20
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
I know that that's a bait, but it's meant to be a showcase of Counter-Strike for everybody in the world. The International and the CS:GO Majors are both supposed to do similar things.
2019-05-25 21:50
TI > Cs Go Major. 2 times win Major in a row, 3 teams were did but 2 times win TI in a row? i have never seen any team/player can do so compare Dota Major and Cs Go Major is justifiable. I think CS GO need a TI to find the best team in the history because TI have only 1 per year and if any team can win 2 times in a row, they deserved to be the best team in the history
2019-05-26 09:10
#15
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United Kingdom HLTV_ALPHA 
thats kinda why the minor play in exists, though i think it should be 2 teams from each minor fighting for 2 slots.
2019-05-25 21:45
+1
2019-05-25 21:45
no
2019-05-25 21:46
#19
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United States n0rdie 
yes
2019-05-25 21:49
#51
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
no
2019-05-27 06:54
#21
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Moldova OptimusBlyad 
lol retardinho
2019-05-25 21:51
#25
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United States n0rdie 
this bait? the only 1-sided matches were spirit v rogue and vega v c9. the rest were 16-13 and 16-14, and they were all bo1.
2019-05-26 00:46
still they won so pls shut up when NA region is irrelevant
2019-05-26 08:41
#32
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United States n0rdie 
lol kid i can also pull up matches where na beat cis teams. and not beat, completely demolished. sit down kid, your retarded.
2019-05-27 03:42
Ok go. I those matches were from the last 5 majors. Gl finding them as much as me
2019-05-27 06:45
#55
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United States n0rdie 
oh wow from the last 5 majors. totally didnt find a connection after you found them hltv.org/matches/2331065/liquid-vs-natus.. hltv.org/matches/2329677/liquid-vs-natus.. hltv.org/matches/2328206/avangar-vs-liqu.. hltv.org/matches/2326893/liquid-vs-gambi.. hltv.org/matches/2326383/winstrike-vs-li.. hltv.org/matches/2324813/natus-vincere-v.. hltv.org/matches/2321998/liquid-vs-gambi.. hltv.org/matches/2330804/winstrike-vs-nr.. hltv.org/matches/2325162/nrg-vs-gambit-i.. hltv.org/matches/2330829/cloud9-vs-winst.. hltv.org/matches/2318623/vega-squadron-v.. all of those were in 2018 and 2019, so they are way more relevant then your shit "last 5 majors." kid majors have dogshit formats. you cant use their bo1s to accurately judge teams. also, eu has 10 wins and 9 finals. cis 1 (fluke) win and 3 finals. americas 3 wins + 2 finals, asia has jack shit. americas and eu deserve more spots than shitty asia and cis.
2019-05-27 19:01
1.Pls proofs that i am a kid 2.We are talking about slots to the major and there are links to other tournaments(wtf???) 3.C9 was a fluke and Gambit not(i can proof that if u want) but C9 were bullshit in Katowice 2018 and Sl after their not fluke win
2019-05-27 19:07
#58
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United States n0rdie 
1. no 2. kid majors from over 2 years ago are irrelevant, and "other" tournaments are the best way to determine the power levels of teams. majors have a garbage format until the playoffs 3. both were a fluke. americas had the 2 mibr wins, so americas has 2 non-fluke wins and cis has 0.
2019-05-27 21:02
they are the best to determine closed qual slots but not major slots LUL
2019-05-27 21:13
#60
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United States n0rdie 
what? english my dude
2019-05-27 21:10
what is wrong????
2019-05-27 21:13
#62
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United States n0rdie 
i was thinking the same thing about you
2019-05-27 21:14
so what is wrong in that sentence?u didn't explain
2019-05-27 21:35
#97
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United States Jammin800k 
Seeded swiss is the best system we have
2019-06-02 09:34
#98
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United States n0rdie 
how the fuck did you come up with that
2019-06-02 09:36
#99
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United States Jammin800k 
The hell? Because literally every player and analysts agrees when asked. Bo3s for elim and advancement matches (or all matches). Player ranked teams so that seeding is fair. If that's not the best then what is?
2019-06-02 09:38
#100
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United States n0rdie 
Yes, seeded Swiss is better than non Swiss. Bo3 for elim matches and advancement matches is better than bo1. That's what everyone agrees on retard. But Swiss in the current format of majors is bad. Teams have to play multiple matches per day without knowing who they will be playing and little time to prepare, and it can be hard to predict who you will play do to the weird elo rating thing. Normal gsl groups or just brackets create a more predictible and competitive environment for the players.
2019-06-02 09:44
#102
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United States Jammin800k 
Uhm last major and starladder teams never had to play multiple bo3s a day besides the semi finals and finals at starladder which navi chose to do. Not really sure what you're talking about. That would never happen at a major where we have full weeks for each stage. The compensation for having less time to prepare is the fact that its bo3s so the better team will usually win either way and you have multiple opportunies to have an "off match" and lose and not have it destroy your run. What are "just brackets" you talking like a March Madness sweet 16 deal? That's super boring, you might only get to play 1 match. Gsl works but it's not better for majors because swiss let's you better decipher teams form going into the playoffs as there is more of a gradient in the group stage performances.
2019-06-02 09:49
#103
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United States n0rdie 
I never said they played multiple bo3s a day. But they did play multiple bo1s. You still have to prepare for 2-3 maps for each bo1. So how about we have full time to prepare AND have bo3 all the way. No dumbass not a 64 team single elim something like dreamhack masters dallas. You can still have a gradient of teams in group stage with brackets. Look at dota.
2019-06-02 09:58
#104
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United States Jammin800k 
They never played multiple bo1s unless there were tech issues and it forced a game to the next day. Full time to prepare so what you want a day between each swiss match? That would be like a 4 week long tournament. The schedule doesnt allow for that
2019-06-02 10:01
#106
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United States n0rdie 
hltv.org/matches/2331048/mibr-vs-cloud9-.. Litterally 2 hours later hltv.org/matches/2331053/mibr-vs-complex.. Shut up kid. You have no idea what you are talking about.
2019-06-02 10:12
#108
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United States Jammin800k 
And? They had over a month to research and prepare for all of the teams going into IEM Katowice. With no other tournaments besides iBP masters. Not having time to prepare between matches on the first day is a terrible excuse. You should have plenty of info on other teams and new ideas to break out from your prep
2019-06-02 10:16
#110
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United States n0rdie 
Lol kid that was the player break. And also with the weird ass elo shit they don't know who they will be playing. With brackets you know that you will be playing one of 3 teams. Also, big dumb dumb brain, games were not announced until saturday, 2 days b4. Mibr was also going through big roster changes. Plus, even if you do have plans for all 23 other teams (they don't) they would still have to 1. Cool down after their loss 2. Refresh on strats and 3. Warm up again after the 2 hours. You are either 10yo or autistic
2019-06-02 10:25
#116
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United States Jammin800k 
As if it being the player break means players are going go sit around for over a month and not prep at all for one of the two most important tournaments of the year. Most teams took a week or two off and then started playing then bootcamped during that month. Who cares if you know you're playing 1 of 3 teams. If seeding is done properly and you prepare well the better team will come out on top more often in swiss because there are more stages to filter teams where as GSL can have one bo3 upset guarantee a top team misses playoffs, swiss doesnt have that issue. Okay? So announce games earlier that has nothing to do with the format just announce the first matches earlier in the day and with a little bit of "seeding math" you can figure out the teams you can play if you win or lose the 2nd match. 1. Cooling down after the loss is just an excuse, tennis players and such play much more rigorous formats that are much more demanding on the body. 2. You shouldnt have to refresh on strats on the first day if the tournament after one bo1 or bo3. It should be well practiced from your bootcamp before the major. 3. There are practice rooms everywhere you can literally play counterstrike the entire time you're at the event as a player if you want and go over things with your team. You're just making dumb excuses to fit your narrative and arent attempting to be objective at all.
2019-06-02 10:35
#142
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United States n0rdie 
its for a lot of teams their only break. they are going to take 2-3 weeks off. its not done properly because its hard to predict. a seeded brackets or groups would be much easier to predict and create a much more competitive enviroment. 1. ur retarded. its not physical, its mental. 2. u r litterally autistic. if the teams really prepare for 23 other teams like you want them to, then they will simply not be able to have all of that info stored in their memory so its easy to get. you need to review strats. 3. i have litterally no idea what you are talking about i am done talking to you. you clearly have a mental disability and you are a waste of time.
2019-06-02 22:59
#145
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United States Jammin800k 
Even if they take 3 weeks that's still 2 weeks to prepare and bootcamp and literally no team said they were going to take that long ofna break Seeded bo3 swiss is what I've been preaching since the beginning. Tennis is also mental? They have to reset way more times between way more sets and games in a day. Yes they prep for 2 weeks then figure out the team they're playing then prep for them and find out the next team later that day. That's literally how every tournament works you never know who you're going to play exactly the next day. That's a factor with every format not just swiss. 3. You're saying teams need to be able to practice and warm up between matches . They have no problem doing so at the major venue. You've brought almost 0 relevant arguments to the table. And all you can do is use fallacies like ad hominem which only prove your ignorance further. Have fun being dense.
2019-06-03 01:45
#89
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Finland Juhousiwan 
Dude im just sayin that gambit was a fluke ok? I dont Any otherwise take part in your argument
2019-06-02 07:49
Did u know that CIS NaVi havent taken a map off Liquid in over a year LMAO
2019-06-01 06:40
Right now we’re talking about CIS slots through minors,teams like NaVi don’t count since they’re in the major all the time. We’re more looking into the New Challenger stages of the past 2-3 majors.
2019-06-02 07:46
+1
2019-06-02 10:48
#27
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Brazil BlueLighting 
Each region should have slots for major based on the amount of players of that region. Steam probably have these stats.
2019-05-26 08:50
#28
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Poland AntlerPog 
Poland would have like 8/16 slots if we were judging by that xD
2019-05-26 08:51
#31
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Brazil BlueLighting 
I dont know exactly, but I think that China(Maybe India, I dont know if csgo is popular there) and EU would have a lot of slots
2019-05-26 22:16
China?¿
2019-06-02 13:20
#149
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Brazil BlueLighting 
1 billion+ ppl there, I think that they should have a lot of players
2019-06-04 20:04
Ammount of players
2019-06-04 21:37
#37
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United States k3ar 
That is the worst way to handle it.
2019-05-27 03:58
#38
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United States n0rdie 
no
2019-05-27 03:58
#40
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Brazil BlueLighting 
why?
2019-05-27 05:09
#43
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United States k3ar 
I fucked up my reply to you, read #42. Accidentally replied to myself instead of this one.
2019-05-27 05:30
#42
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United States k3ar 
I mean, you said why in #31. There would be way too many slots for countries that have a very shitty scene. NA and Brazil would have too many as well.
2019-05-27 05:29
#45
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Brazil BlueLighting 
Well, I just made an assumption, I could only come to a final decision if I had access to the steam data that shows the number of players per region, without this it's had to say how many slots each region would have
2019-05-27 05:37
#52
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Montenegro Fraggot 
That's stupid because, for example, while Denmark is small, they have 5 teams in the top 30. It really shouldn't depend on size, they should plan slots accordingly to how developed the scene is.
2019-05-27 06:57
Cry is free.
2019-05-26 08:57
racist!
2019-05-27 03:43
#34
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United States n0rdie 
shut up you damn homophobe. i am reporting you to the irs!
2019-05-27 03:43
fuck u fuck and fuck!
2019-05-27 03:44
EU minor will be lit though :D
2019-05-27 05:10
#113
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Romania qAp 
Closed qualifier will have some matches which will be better than last majors main qualifier
2019-06-02 10:27
slots for major are for max viewership not to have the absolute best teams duke it out on LAN
2019-05-27 05:33
#47
s1mple | 
India AMKW 
CIS region comes under Europe if you see live matches navi playing The stats will show as navi a Europe team So stfu
2019-05-27 05:51
#49
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Denmark Xipingu 
Bla
2019-05-27 06:49
#50
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Finland Fliida 
The fact is, the CIS minor could be combined with the asian one to compete for 2 - 3 slots. Kind of an out of sight, out of mind kind of solution. Just give the leftover slot to the EU minor.
2019-05-27 06:50
#54
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Denmark nrth_LUL 
who cares these europe teams are playing the minor for a reason and the CiS teams have upset many times in the recent major. and with both asia and oceanic teams starting to look better the asia minor is fine.
2019-05-27 07:02
#56
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Tbh, EU should have 3 slots, NA 2, asia/cis 1, africa 1. We dont even know if there anything good there in terms of cs, the only team that attend major from africa was bravado and they did quite well back then.
2019-05-27 19:04
in my opinion, Valve should implement a system like Champions League, where better regions (based on previous Majors' performance) get more slots at the Major
2019-05-27 21:17
#65
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Australia invye 
racist dawg wtf
2019-05-27 21:39
#120
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Romania qAp 
Not really racist but the only Asian team which won a major was gambit and they re from cis
2019-06-02 10:52
#135
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Australia invye 
Asian CS still need to develop, Asians are not known for FPS games but mostly MOBA and they're actually pretty good in overwatch
2019-06-02 14:19
This guy 😒
2019-06-01 06:53
+1 it's insane how easy NA minor is compared to EU minor.
2019-06-01 06:59
#73
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Finland James Nelson 
If cis minor had 1 slot then NA minor should have 1 slot too. Just give EU more slots and forget this shit scenes until they are ready to compete
2019-06-01 07:03
north bots
2019-06-02 01:38
#87
s1mple | 
India AMKW 
Valve can't be biased and racist like you How about you stfu Making this thread for idk how many times
2019-06-02 07:44
He just telling us his opinion,and he doesn't understand that everyone doesn't care about it.He just retarded racist.
2019-06-02 10:12
#123
s1mple | 
India AMKW 
True
2019-06-02 13:06
#114
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United States n0rdie 
Dumb Indian brain cant comprehend how his country is to bad to play at a amature level without cheats.
2019-06-02 10:29
#119
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Romania qAp 
Remember forsaken =)
2019-06-02 10:51
#125
s1mple | 
India AMKW 
Remember yourself and that will be an achievement
2019-06-02 13:07
#124
s1mple | 
India AMKW 
U think I am from India Cool
2019-06-02 13:06
New market, more money, new Asian market - much more money.
2019-06-02 07:53
CIS should have 3 slots and NA should have 1 slot.
2019-06-02 10:01
Agreed, but having the play-in somewhat fixes things as it gives 2 more spots at the major.
2019-06-02 11:00
I have an idea , 32 teams major , increase it by 8 teams
2019-06-02 13:09
That was kind of done by hosting the major and minors in the same place
2019-06-02 14:10
#127
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Ukraine beazztov 
CIS > NA
2019-06-02 13:13
#128
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Korea XigNw0w 
Expected once again someone crying about major slots.
2019-06-02 13:16
#129
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1 5 EU 1 NA 1 Asia 1 CIS
2019-06-02 13:18
Flag does not check out
2019-06-02 13:19
#136
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World Tenshi_R 
Valve should make NA quals with 2 spots on Americas minor and give other 6 spots to SA
2019-06-02 14:26
And make all SA teams go to SA quals? I think 4/4 is a good idea
2019-06-02 14:32
#139
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World Tenshi_R 
Ye, 4/4 good too, imo SA minor teams already as good as NA ones
2019-06-02 14:41
#138
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Australia opzy 
The system is set up so that the minor slots are fairly allocated, as the top eu/na teams fill the legends spots, and also have chances to come through in the 3rd place slots. But last major vici and winstrike took the 3rd place, so what does that tell you about region balance?
2019-06-02 14:42
#150
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Europe FJUL 
it's only main qualifier, keep kalm
2019-06-04 20:05
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