I really wanna know why liquid is over astralis even they havent won a major 😂
Furia will be at least top 11, probably top 10
Exactly that, but i still think astralis is better
faze how can take 120 points for semi final
furia beat nrg
furia beat fnatic
furia smash vitality
2. Astralis (?)
3. ENCE (?)
4. Faze (?)
5. NAVI (?)
6. Vitality (?)
9. Fnatic (?)
11. Renegades (?)
13. Furia (?)
14. G2 (?)
(?) means we need to see more of them before we can fully decide their spot
Astralis: haven't seen much of them, lost the last 2 tournaments they participated in, recently both their Nuke & Inferno win streaks have ended, we haven't seen them in a bo3 vs Liquid in a non-final.
ENCE: we know because of the final of DH Dallas that Liquid is the better team, better map pool, more skilled players, arguably better calling a lot of the time, however does that mean ENCE is 3rd? They 2-0d Astralis, is ENCE 2nd? Was that BLAST win a fluke over Astralis or does it mean Astralis is officially the 3rd best team in the world? We'll have to see more
FaZe: they look good right now but we'll have to see later on to see how they are.
Na'Vi: haven't seen this new roster yet, so we'll have to see.
Vitality: winning CS summit then bombing out vs Furia, Furia gods or Vitality fluke? Will have to see more.
Renegades: very up & down team, beat ENCE on their best map with a stand-in but bombed out of CS summit placing below Ghost, however that was with a stand-in, without a stand-in, 2-1 Fnatic, Fnatic good or Renegades bad? Got 2-1d by G2, G2 good or Renegades bad? It seems they still need to get used to having the full roster back, nonetheless, will have to see more of them.
Furia: 3-4th finish at DH Dallas, 2-0d the likes of Vitality & Fnatic, taking a map off ENCE, fluke or are they good? Don't know, will have to see more of them.
G2: pretty good run at DH Dallas, 5th-6th finish, are they good again? Who knows, will have to see more.
As for another reason I put Liquid above Astralis; the last time they played each other in a no-pressure bo3, Liquid won, Liquid has also taken more titles this year than Astralis & could easily win the Intel Grand Slam over them, say what you want about the quality of iBP Masters, the lack of top teams at IEM Sydney or the lack of Astralis at DH Dallas but the point is to win tournaments, not Liquid's fault if Astralis doesn't attend them. The top 5 is very weird right now, to be completely honest so is the top 10. Cologne will be the big decider should Liquid qualify, if Liquid doesn't qualify then we'll still have no idea how the top 5 really stack up.
faze way too high, the best team they beat is g2
Might be biased, but i still see astralis as the better team, but you cant stay top 1 without playing, so liquid should be top 1 atm
navi hasnt played a match how could you possibly rank them
g2 deserve higher, you guys put them below nrg so convincingly while g2 beat them 2-1. Also they were a great opponent to FaZe, while FaZe is on Liquid and Ence's level.
Inferno was a choke by g2, dust 2 was great.
stopped at 2. STEW_CARRIED_MIBR | Faroe Islands
I didn't unde stand why Choke Clan is higher than Navi , so navi -4
I'm just gonna ignore any top 15 list which insists on putting Mibr on there. They've literally shown nothing on LAN this year.
I feel like Mousesports should be a bit higher up.
BIG with Xantares soon Top5
After AUG fixed:
Not 150 ofc, they got a lot of rating by this broken meta but you know what i mean
Imagine saying G2 not top 10 when they beat 2 top 10/11 teams.
There are atleast 4-5 top 10 teams which g2 can beat easily.
15. AVANGAR or North
Rest doesnt matter
Navi > faze anytime
You will see it in starladder yourself
Win 2 majors in a row and shit loads of tournaments and then have a little time off playing only BLAST PRO for 2-3 months.. Liquid wins shitty Tier2 IEM Sydney that didnt even include Astralis, ENCE or Navi.. and then DH Dallas.. Liquid > Astralis yes.
North is traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash
That's honestly a really good list!
well made but vitality #6 eheh
Agree with everything but MIBR should be lower.