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perfect FRENCH lineup?
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Poland Lukovsky 
what's your dream french lineup? I'd go with Zywoo NBK apeX ALEX shox (dream) / kioshima (realistic) Vitality looks almost perfect, just get rid of LeBOT. Although it seems like there are ZERO decent french players outside of G2/Vitality except for kio so there's not much to choose from.
2019-06-10 08:33
-nbk + amanek
2019-06-10 08:34
#2
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Poland Lukovsky 
rather -rpk + amanek it seems the shared calling between NBK & Alex is working fine so I wouldn't change it
2019-06-10 08:38
Nbk destroyed the french scene and zywoo is carrying the scene on his back
2019-06-10 08:39
#4
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Poland Lukovsky 
shox destroyed the french scene ftfy
2019-06-10 08:40
#46
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
i would probably blame happy tbh, it was him refusing to change his igl style that caused the issues in the first place
2019-06-10 09:48
#52
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Poland Lukovsky 
to be fair they probably all have their fair share of being divas though happy.. jeez, I think I've never seen a player become so outdated in basically every aspect of the game
2019-06-10 10:19
Without Happy, there would be no french CS:GO scene at all, he carried two different squads to the Major victories, if anyone, it's them had to change in order to work by his lead.
2019-06-10 10:27
#81
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Poland Lukovsky 
Happy has the most outdated playstyle I have ever seen, same with his calling He's literally stuck in 2015 while everyone else moved on according to the meta getting rid of Happy was the key to their recent success
2019-06-10 12:25
You don't know what was the reason behind poor success of his then team, as I can see and which is truer based on their relations, Happy's style was a lot more stricter which isn't that pleasing for the players and despite its efficiency, his teammates like crybabies they are, decided to change the captain and moved on. Very professional and mature and now kids and teens all blame Happy without having a clue or any common sense.
2019-06-10 12:33
#85
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Poland Lukovsky 
his strats were literally from 2015 though, he always set himself up to be the last alive almost every round they probably realized how fucking washed up he actually is and decided to move on, what's wrong with that?
2019-06-10 12:41
There is no certainty about strats to imply it can be literally one way or another. And if you're aware between french players relations, you had to respond right on the topic I just brought up and not keep bending your line.
2019-06-10 14:08
#89
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Poland Lukovsky 
the fuck is wrong with you stop with that acid
2019-06-10 15:30
Yes, exactly this reply I expected initially. Now I can go easily.
2019-06-10 16:42
#95
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Poland Lukovsky 
You ok?
2019-06-10 20:27
He certainly is, what about you?
2019-06-11 00:37
#105
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Poland Lukovsky 
good, how about you?
2019-06-11 00:47
You're wrong dude, Happy's style was way stricter and more consistent. Vitality was still a top 10 team when Happy had some input, even though NBK was IGL. Zywoo carrying the crap out of you doesn't make your strats good. NBK has proven to be a horrible IGL for years now. Vitality is heavily reliant on Rpk and ALEX doing a bunch of shitty roles all the time, and then Zywoo dropping a 30 to win. Combine that with their loose play style and they can honestly fall off tomorrow.
2019-06-11 01:59
#112
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Poland Lukovsky 
Thanks for your input. I can't really agree about Happy, all I remember from his igling is making Vitality bring back 2015 memories. I was honestly surprised how bad they were. I don't see anything wrong in Zywoo carrying you, he's more than fucking insane and he's been doing it since the beginning hltv.org/stats/lineup/players?lineup=716.. hltv.org/stats/lineup/players?lineup=716.. I totally agree about NBK not being a capable igl but that's why they brought Alex in. Their t side has improved massively since he started calling and you can't really deny it. They might fall off tomorrow though I'm not going to argue here, I don't know if they can keep it up. Either way I like how the top10 looks now and we have pretty interesting times coming.
2019-06-11 02:40
+1 All I'm saying is Happy is definitely better than NBK IGL wise, I don't think he's great anymore though. ALEX doesn't really bring much in terms of firepower at all, but looking at his somewhat decent clutch ability and strat calling it was a good move. The team works because all the pieces are working for now, but like you said I think it can easily fall apart tomorrow.
2019-06-11 03:43
#149
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Estonia dev2ce 
LMFAO VITALITY TOP 10 WITH HAPPY? WHEN?
2019-06-11 18:32
My bad I was thinking of that old lineup with Scream, Happy, Hadji, Kioshima, and Rpk... That team was top 10 at its peak.
2019-06-11 18:39
#151
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Estonia dev2ce 
+1
2019-06-11 18:37
Bruh shox destroyed the scene
2019-06-10 08:52
it was shox lul
2019-06-10 08:59
#40
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Serbia nzzm22 
+1
2019-06-10 09:32
shox and nbk
2019-06-10 09:35
#51
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Indonesia tsokai 
Nt shoxie
2019-06-10 10:16
shox destroyed the french scene , not NBK
2019-06-10 10:40
I wished shox joined mibr roster when he was given an offer, instead of obeying his wife. Atleast french scene would've been spared the BS, and shox would be a top 20 player.
2019-06-10 11:05
#98
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New Zealand INxNITY 
Family > CSGO
2019-06-10 22:08
True, but I'm speaking in favour of the French scene, which is split into two different factions (G2 under shox and vitality under nbk), both of which have historically and present great players. Also, families can move to other countries if needed, but I respect shox and his wife's decision to stay in France.
2019-06-11 05:21
They probably wanted there kid to go to a French school.
2019-06-11 05:38
#106
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Poland Lukovsky 
top 200 in mibr
2019-06-11 00:48
NBK did nothing wrong
2019-06-11 08:31
+ 100000000
2019-06-11 21:04
nbk its key player for a french team
2019-06-10 10:21
Yeah was key destroyer of envy u right
2019-06-11 21:06
#5
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France DirtyPerez 
-rpk +amanek / hadji (not sure he would fit the role but it is worth the try)
2019-06-10 08:41
#7
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Poland Lukovsky 
I'll never agree with hadji after seeing him play in Envy last year I remember thinking he was the worst pickup of 2018
2019-06-10 08:50
#14
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Europe RU!N 
We are in 2019 btw
2019-06-10 08:56
#16
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Poland Lukovsky 
thanks for your useless comment
2019-06-10 08:57
#24
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Europe RU!N 
u didn't watch any match oh him probably
2019-06-10 09:02
#25
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Poland Lukovsky 
watched enough of him against decent opposition and it's not like he lacked something here and there, he was fucking garbage in every aspect of the game, particularly decision making
2019-06-10 09:04
0 matches in big events in 2019 0.90 rating on lan in 2019 and not a single lan game vs top30 team so its vs pretty much semi pro teams. in which universe would hadji be an upgrade?
2019-06-10 09:05
#29
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Europe RU!N 
Why u are speaking to me xd i didn't write +hadji...
2019-06-10 09:09
but you said: "We are in 2019 btw" "u didn't watch any match oh him probably"
2019-06-10 09:26
#38
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Europe RU!N 
I mean he improved a lot since last year
2019-06-10 09:30
he clearly didnt...just look at his performance
2019-06-10 09:34
#43
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Poland Lukovsky 
I've seen people putting him in G2/Vitality and never really understood why. He's never shown anything special and the only time he had a chance to play against decent opposition he sucked ass
2019-06-10 09:38
Are you one of those braindead fuckwads who just looks at his overall rating for the past 3 or 6 months and thinks "hey hadji's doing good!", despite the fact those are matches against literally tier 4 and below opponents at best? Fuckin' idiot.
2019-06-11 19:43
#156
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Europe RU!N 
well i know that some hltv have problems, u just need to release the tension, u know how? masterbait yourself men
2019-06-11 19:51
#22
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France DirtyPerez 
Since then he played for Imperal and 3dMax performing very well.
2019-06-10 09:01
#23
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Poland Lukovsky 
yeah, proving he can only perform against t5
2019-06-10 09:02
#27
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France DirtyPerez 
I've never understood how the fact that he plays lower teams is an argument to say he's not good enough. Him performing well against "t5" teams makes hime better than t5 obviously. So this is worth the try to see him playing against better teams.
2019-06-10 09:07
#26 he sucks even vs those t5 teams lol
2019-06-10 09:09
#30
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France DirtyPerez 
he scale isn't big enough to judge imo.
2019-06-10 09:10
#33
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Poland Lukovsky 
then learn to read, I said he played like shit in Envy which was the only time he played against decent opponents that's hadji against top20 (!) hltv.org/stats/players/events/9656/hAdji..
2019-06-10 09:16
disband
2019-06-10 08:42
#8
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Poland Lukovsky 
Navi with russian flag LMAO same will happen with ukraine sooner rather than later
2019-06-10 08:51
keep dreaming russia gonna collapse just like soviet in few years
2019-06-10 08:53
#13
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Poland Lukovsky 
collapse on your ass
2019-06-10 08:55
typical brainwashed polak nothing new here everyone know that russia is going to collapse to a lot of different countries as this country is multinational and their ppl hate each other and everyone hate putin (except some vatniks ofc) USA destroyed soviet withot a single shot in 1991, that way the whole world will destroy russian federation
2019-06-10 08:59
#21
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Poland Lukovsky 
chill bro
2019-06-10 09:01
Too much acid dreaming fella. USA didn't destroy anyone, they collapsed on their own as it was such a great powerhouse, couldn't stand tall. And if you really think that Russia will collapse, I got bad news for you. You will be annexed and conquered by a hundred different countries before that happens, if it even will.
2019-06-10 10:30
Yes I think Germany needs some Lebensraum for the migrants
2019-06-10 11:01
just xd expected from commie retard
2019-06-11 18:13
#9
k1to | 
Germany kaeschdle 
currently only -rpk +kio would make sense IMO shox has proven that he has no idea how to be part of a functional team
2019-06-10 08:52
#19
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Poland Lukovsky 
you're probably right after giving it a second thought I might go with -rpk +kio/amanek if that would prevent team chemistry from going down the drain
2019-06-10 08:59
Axtually vitality wanted to replace rpk with amanek but g2 took him before them
2019-06-10 10:21
#63
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Poland Lukovsky 
any source for that? that lineup would be almost perfect and it's fucking weird to say that about a french team without shox and kenny
2019-06-10 10:32
dekay mailbag. that was after major and they considered to take him since rpk its trash and its obvious . but g2 took him and they decided to keep him
2019-06-10 10:36
#71
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Poland Lukovsky 
okay thanks for the info it's a shame tbh, I don't think they'll have another opportunity to replace RPK in the near future. Literally 0 decent players in the french scene besides G2/Vita
2019-06-10 10:43
i wish they will -rpk +jackz. best french lineup possible atm
2019-06-10 10:50
#77
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Poland Lukovsky 
Jackz is entry, a fucking good one but they already have apex
2019-06-10 10:57
kioshima kennys nbk apex zywoo bestest lineup ez top1
2019-06-10 08:54
#15
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Poland Lukovsky 
kenny has been one of the most overrrated players in the past two years, there's no place for him in the dream french lineup, especially with Zywoo there
2019-06-10 08:57
0/8, kenny and zywoo will be the best double awp of all time
2019-06-11 05:16
+1
2019-06-11 05:57
#17
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Europe RU!N 
-rpk +kio will never happen so stop write that (+shox made me laugh)
2019-06-10 08:59
#31
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Poland Lukovsky 
hence the (dream) tag I know it's impossible but I'd finallly like to see a real french dreamteam
2019-06-10 09:13
#35
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Europe RU!N 
It's impossible cuz of his relationship with apex and nbk, same with kio
2019-06-10 09:23
#37
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Poland Lukovsky 
ah, the drama of french divas so kio has a beef with nkb & apex? why?
2019-06-10 09:26
#39
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Europe RU!N 
Dunno why, but apex said on his stream that he will never gonna play with kio again
2019-06-10 09:31
#54
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Poland Lukovsky 
okay that's interesting, thanks for the info
2019-06-10 10:20
#127
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France Ocelot31 
i heard that it was because he refused to train or atleast to train as much as his teamate when they were in the same team.
2019-06-11 05:23
Dream Team 1: Zywoo NBK apEX shox kioShiMa Dream Team 2: Happy kennyS ScreaM JaCkz Amanek
2019-06-10 09:14
#34
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Poland Lukovsky 
I wanted to go for your first team but they do need a proper igl NBK only calls decent on CT side shox wouldn't respect NBK's calling anyway NBK wouldn't respect shox's calling anyway shox shouldn't ever call that's why -kio +alex/amanek e: thanks for not being an idiot and putting kenny & zywoo in one team
2019-06-10 09:21
#45
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Czech Republic ZajiiCZ 
Did you just come up with 10 French players a assigned them randomly to 2 teams? It certainly seem like that is the case here...
2019-06-10 09:45
#65
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Poland Lukovsky 
I probably should have written "what's your dream french lineup WITHOUT all the drama" that way his first lineup makes sense apart from the fact they have no igl the second does feel random lul
2019-06-10 10:34
#147
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Estonia dev2ce 
lmfao shox in french dreamteam nt mate
2019-06-11 18:27
#44
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United States Jammin800k 
Its most likely just -rpk +shox for Vitality provided that shox accepts NBK and Alex's system if not then jackz or amanek would be skill upgrades. Jackz fits the role better but the amanek option probably has more potential, however I dont feel like rpk needs to be replaced. Other than that Vitality has the right combination of players especially role wise to be elite. Kio is not an option, there's too much bad history and it would have happened already if it were going to.
2019-06-10 09:44
#57
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Poland Lukovsky 
you're probably right and I agree, though I'd still put kio in my DREAM french lineup the only thing I don't really agree here is taking Jackz, he's an entry isn't he? Or at least has similar role to apex, Imo Amanek would fit much better
2019-06-10 10:24
#64
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United States Jammin800k 
The reason I think amanek doesnt fit is because he is a player who, despite being an IGL, benefits from having freedom and taking liberties based on info. Rpk DOES NOT have that freedom at all, he is basically a shield for zywoo or he holds for map control and then gets used for info later in the round. Amanek would be miserable in that role, he wants to take fights if he sees an opportunity, he wants to lurk a lot and mainly he wants to close out rounds. I do think hes capable of doing Rpks role I just dont think he would enjoy it.
2019-06-10 10:33
#68
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Poland Lukovsky 
You make very good points here, I think I can agree with that. However, I believe Amanek has much more firepower (or potential to have one day) than RPK, NBK & Alex, so how about -RPK + Amanek and make NBK/Alex play RPK's shit roles? and afaik Amanek doesn't igl in G2, it's still shox
2019-06-10 10:40
#70
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United States Jammin800k 
" but the amanek option probably has more potential" I dont think amanek will ever eclipse what NBK did but yes I agree he is a better fragger than the other two usually. Amanek can or can't IGL, hes fine with both and hes certainly helping Shox at the moment, you could tell the week he joined at EPL.
2019-06-10 10:41
#72
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Poland Lukovsky 
I fucking hope he does, when they signed him I was like 'fucking finally, now shox can be a monster again', but no he still wants to igl, wtf is wrong with this guy
2019-06-10 10:48
#74
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United States Jammin800k 
I dont what his thought process is, why he even wants to focus on anything but his crosshair is beyond me, hes fucking nutty.
2019-06-10 10:50
#47
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France kyojiNs 
-rpk +kioshiMa is the only good upgrade
2019-06-10 09:53
#48
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Finland Teukkasd 
i love shox
2019-06-10 09:55
>Perfect lineup >NBK, ALEX OMEGALUL
2019-06-10 10:09
#73
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Poland Lukovsky 
list yours then
2019-06-10 10:49
#50
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United States Jammin800k 
Kio is not realistic at all, the French scene doesnt want him or it would have been done by now. Theres too much bad blood. Regardless of if theyve said they dont mind each other, that doesnt mean they want to be teammates again and exposed to each other every day.
2019-06-10 10:11
#61
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Israel wetz 
+1
2019-06-10 10:28
virality with jackz / amane instead of rpk.
2019-06-10 10:20
KennyS Shox ScreaM ZywOo NBK
2019-06-10 10:25
#75
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Poland Lukovsky 
worst one so far
2019-06-10 10:50
+1 faze style team without the skill
2019-06-11 02:59
Why?
2019-06-11 17:18
#148
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Estonia dev2ce 
yea you just added 3 braindead bots to vitality basically
2019-06-11 18:28
KennyS 1.17 shox 1.25 ScreaM 1.07 rating...
2019-06-11 19:22
#157
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Estonia dev2ce 
against tier 5, yes. congrats to them. i assume you also think juliano is good? 1.17 rating btw
2019-06-11 21:03
KennyS and shox simply legends and ScreaM has one of the best aim in the pro scene
2019-06-12 07:08
#163
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Estonia dev2ce 
get right and olof are legends, lets put them in the best swedish team then.
2019-06-12 18:30
I cant change ur mind so i give up this.
2019-06-12 18:34
Is alex from France?
2019-06-10 10:28
#67
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Korea Damianlee 
He's born in England but has French citizenship
2019-06-10 10:36
#128
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France Ocelot31 
he spent most time in france then england and i think only played for french cs go scene
2019-06-11 05:24
RpK better than kioshima in every way, so I don't understand this thread.
2019-06-10 10:58
#82
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Poland Lukovsky 
just no
2019-06-10 12:31
Then tell me what kio did in the last 3 years?
2019-06-10 12:38
#86
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Poland Lukovsky 
tell me what did rpk do in the last 3 years besides having his ass carried by better players? kio is simply better than rpk at almost every aspect of the game I'd still take Amanek over kio though
2019-06-10 12:45
winning cs_summit 4, winning ECS season 7. you didn't answered about kio though, I rest my case then.
2019-06-10 14:19
#90
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Poland Lukovsky 
> winning > getting his ass carried to win hltv.org/stats/players/events/7169/RpK lmao you're an idiot
2019-06-10 15:34
i gave you two chance to bring some kio result for the last 3 years, yet you were unable to give any. It speaks for itself I guess.
2019-06-10 21:53
#99
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Poland Lukovsky 
if you want to see kio's results you have a whole database on this very website you lazy ass rpk is miles behind kio in terms of skill, I'm not talking about attitude and relationships
2019-06-10 23:25
The database you are talking about says the complete opposite about kio and RpK. I'm sad for you my deluded friend.
2019-06-11 01:53
#109
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Poland Lukovsky 
you could just point me the fact which says the complete opposite, instead you call me deluded how about we agree to disagree
2019-06-11 02:17
#94
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France LanaRhoades 
Won events with Faze , carried c9 lately.
2019-06-10 16:44
You have forgotten why he got kicked out of FaZe it seems, worst stats player of a whole major, with FaZe. And according to last result of c9 e didn't carried anything. I might also add his time in nV with RpK, yet somehow, french rather have RpK than him.
2019-06-10 21:53
#101
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France LanaRhoades 
I like RpK btw
2019-06-11 00:30
ZywOO skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up....Day0s FPL Cheater with Streaming.....I think day0s still cheating...Zyw00 using game deficit on PRO scene ,ON BIG Events.Maybe everyone dont knows him trick.He incredible....I want to ask his where is the comming of your skill's ?
2019-06-10 15:45
#93
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France LanaRhoades 
You're right , even they doesn't really need changes right now , if rpk retires or something like that , kio would be a nice addition
2019-06-10 16:43
#100
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Poland Lukovsky 
seems everyone hates kio lul
2019-06-10 23:26
#102
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France LanaRhoades 
RpK isn't that bad , but kio would obv be an upgrade , their objective is to be top 3 constantly for a long period , we'll see if they can achieve that with RpK , i think yes if he steps up a bit. If it doesn't work with him , Vitality will need Kio , but vitality's members seems to like him a lot , he have a great mentality , idk if Kio has the mentality they want
2019-06-11 00:34
#104
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Poland Lukovsky 
consistency is what RPK lacks more than any kind of skill and I don't think he can even improve much in this regard seems like Amanek would have been their perfect 5th actually
2019-06-11 00:39
#110
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Europe thaifinnen 
shox lurker kennys awp zywoo entry nbk igl kio support i'd rather take ex6 for igl but you said french
2019-06-11 02:26
#111
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France LanaRhoades 
French = francophonic
2019-06-11 02:36
#114
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Poland Lukovsky 
NBK is shit igl alone, so: shox ALEX Zywoo nbk kio but you need apex entry so shox ALEX Zywoo apex kio kenny is the most overrated player in csgo history. There's literally zero argument for kenny to be in the team when you already have Zywoo
2019-06-11 02:45
#138
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Norway PeteZz 
Every successfull team needs nbk. Nbk > apex.
2019-06-11 06:10
#113
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Switzerland kyri0S 
While keeping it realistic. AmaNEk kennyS shox apEX ZywOo > AmaNEk can be changed for kioShiMa or NBK-, the other 4 need to eb in the same team.
2019-06-11 02:43
#115
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Poland Lukovsky 
kenny is the most overrated player in csgo history. There's literally zero argument for kenny to be in the team when you already have Zywoo Zywoo is better rifler AND awper (yes he is) than kenny kenny is inconsistent af, weak minded, crumbles under pressure, usually depressed; Zywoo is the opposite
2019-06-11 02:51
#117
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Switzerland kyri0S 
Overated and overHATED. There is pultiples points i disagree with you, each one has his opinion my kurwa.
2019-06-11 03:01
#118
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Poland Lukovsky 
my kurwa my friend
2019-06-11 03:03
#119
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Switzerland kyri0S 
;D Hahahaha perhaps we can agree on the best Polish roster ?
2019-06-11 03:04
#121
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Poland Lukovsky 
there is no possible relevant polish roster my friend my kurwa
2019-06-11 03:06
#122
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Switzerland kyri0S 
dycha, michu, rallen, taz + snax or ?
2019-06-11 03:07
#142
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Poland Lukovsky 
wouldn't even reach top15 and I doubt taz would ever play with snax again
2019-06-11 09:18
How to fuck the french scene once again
2019-06-11 03:05
#125
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France t3r4byt3 
NBK apEX RpK ZywOo ALEX
2019-06-11 05:20
Zywoo Zywoo Zywoo Zywoo Zywoo Voldemort coach
2019-06-11 05:26
u mean the divine Bald XTQZZZ
2019-06-11 05:39
#130
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United States Pogromca 
Must include amanek!
2019-06-11 05:29
JackZ NBK AmaneK Zywoo Kio
2019-06-11 05:39
#134
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United States machemm 
nope you all wrong its, Scream Shox KennyS Kio Zywoo
2019-06-11 05:42
KennyS OMEGALUL
2019-06-11 05:52
#144
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Nepal ramann 
how the fuck is Scream french dumbass
2019-06-11 09:56
#161
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United States machemm 
lol, hes Belgium but been in the french scene a while
2019-06-12 09:01
#162
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Nepal ramann 
doesn't make him french though
2019-06-12 13:35
#165
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United States machemm 
Dosnt matter much tho would be #1 team easy
2019-06-13 04:04
#166
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Nepal ramann 
but the post is about "perfect french lineup" key word "French" but nevermind.
2019-06-13 11:56
ALEX isn't French
2019-06-11 05:54
-apEX +JaCKz instead
2019-06-11 08:28
#140
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Myanmar ZywooScream 
Apex zywoo shox scream +1
2019-06-11 08:30
#143
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Nepal ramann 
ALEX is englishman not french dumbass
2019-06-11 09:56
#167
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Poland Lukovsky 
55 iq hello
2019-06-13 12:01
Zywoo Bot Bot Bott Bot Zywoo take bot and win ez
2019-06-11 18:43
Zywoo shox apex kioshima alex
2019-06-11 18:48
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RED
2x
BLACK
2x
JOKER
26x
100
Points
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