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AUG-SG ruined CSGO
Brazil jks_top1_no_doubt 
Valve need to nerf them, people are starting to chose sg instead of AK..... And both of then has 0 recoil with aim scoped. Please valve, nerf they or cs will die.
2019-06-10 15:54
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Sg> 0 recoil> Pick one
2019-06-10 15:54
maybe silver elite, you will understand someday
2019-06-10 15:55
I’m gold nova 1 respect me. Also I do understand, I’ve been using sg since 2016
2019-06-10 15:55
Thats why you are gold nova 1 Xd
2019-06-10 15:56
Nice logic, calls sg op but calls me noob for using it in 2016 even when it is the same exact gun
2019-06-10 15:57
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Canada TalicniTom 
2019-06-10 16:15
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flusha | 
Norway dr_fiji 
2019-06-10 17:30
Brazil igster 
2019-06-14 05:26
Canada Abolition 
2019-06-14 05:35
India Wise_Indian 
2019-06-14 10:16
Finland JHdash77 
2019-06-14 11:35
Rekt him +1
2019-06-14 11:40
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Finland Karppanator 
2019-06-14 15:30
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2019-06-15 14:29
he called u gold nova 1 not noob
2019-06-15 14:58
India KNOX23 
His intention was to call him a noob
2019-06-15 15:10
+1 oof
2019-06-15 15:08
India KNOX23 
2019-06-15 15:09
chrisJ | 
Netherlands toMyy 
It's like using hacks. It's for noobs but it makes you better. Same goes for the SG/AUG. Good players dont need this shit.
2019-06-15 16:23
tell him boy
2019-06-15 16:23
Brazil JgzMcz 
2019-06-16 19:46
Myanmar xdcc 
O. J. Simpson was released on October 1, 2017. hmmmmmmmmmm
2019-06-10 15:57
C.S.I. hltv
2019-06-10 15:58
I had a guy make me a computer out of a potato, old stolen pc parts, and some triple a batteries. Was a good investment only cost me 70 ramen packs
2019-06-10 15:58
Finland Juhousiwan 
sg has alot of recoil im supreme and level 7 and even i think that sg has a pretty hard recoil tbh. aug is a different thing though. it has no recoil
2019-06-10 15:56
Yea, i just overhype the nerf idea, sorry, but sg still op
2019-06-10 15:57
France LanaRhoades 
Yea the 1 tap scope is too OP
2019-06-10 15:58
It is almost an AWP with 1 tap power, 30 bullets on it and no recharge necessary after a shot wtf men
2019-06-10 15:59
nEGRo | 
Europe Mensseli 
The spray is hard with SG but yes I agree with you its easy to kill peaking AWP with SG if you have the ankle.
2019-06-10 16:16
But if you don’t have ankles you’re getting picked ez
2019-06-11 00:15
how do you walk without ankles?
2019-06-15 11:00
Finland Juhousiwan 
2019-06-10 16:50
welcome to skill based counter strike
2019-06-15 10:55
2019-06-15 19:12
sorry i cant hear you over the sound of headshot
2019-06-16 01:26
United States Trump2020KAG 
Sg is still way behind the ak Ak 80% sg 20% Aug 70%m4/s 30% Only thing I don’t like about the aug is bad players are now good when using it.
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2019-06-14 06:58
Remember, it took some time for the AUG to replace the m4. Same now for the SG. Give it two months without changes and it'll be as dominant as the AUG
2019-06-14 07:14
I doubt it. The AUG is simply a straight upgrade to the M4s whereas the SG's slower movement speed requires you to be significantly more passive than you would with an AK, thus making it a lot harder for you to take corners and entry.
2019-06-14 10:09
Both guns have 2% slower movement speed compared to their non scoped counter parts, it is not a big deal. (M4 225, aug 220, ak 215, sg 210) the sg is more of an upgrade compared to the aug because it shoots 11% faster than the ak.
2019-06-15 01:07
You don't really notice the movement penalty as much on the defense though. As someone who has been using primarily the SG since 2014 i will ALWAYS opt for an Ak if i'm on a team where i have to play entry, the extra movement speed really makes a difference when shoulderpeeking etc.
2019-06-15 01:12
nothing will replace AK in this game
2019-06-14 11:32
It already does. Furia plays SG only, some Big players too. Elige even said he thinks in a few months everyone will play SG over Ak
2019-06-14 11:38
elige is well known krieg user long time before meta, along with magiks Furia - aug and ssg are the reason unknown teams to stand out in the last few months - good angle, click mouse 2, hold mouse 1 and here you go 3-4k. This is the main reason solid teams as mibr, navi and astralis to struggle even with flawless strats.
2019-06-14 14:56
Finland Faifainei 
-Flawless strat -getting rekt by one aug Pick one Also the scope is still quite situational, most cases it is just like a buffed m4.
2019-06-14 15:26
it's a fact, and I picked both if for silvers like you is quite situational, pro players can rekt you 10 of 10 times with one tap with aug
2019-06-14 15:59
>flawless strats > NaVi >pick one
2019-06-15 11:16
Brazil talking
2019-06-10 16:53
what about crazyguy being your best hope :laughts:
2019-06-10 19:57
LOL 0 recoil with sg you are a silver elite XD
2019-06-10 19:58
stfu i'm without patience now.
2019-06-10 20:46
No, you're wrong
2019-06-14 07:13
SG recoil is impossible to control
2019-06-14 10:38
2019-06-14 12:04
'And both of then has 0 recoil with aim scoped.' k
2019-06-10 15:55
Italy bennyhana 
Honestly valve could remove both guns and cs would either stay the same or become better
2019-06-10 15:56
better for sure. its not balanced when people hold long range angles with a rifle and onetap you...
2019-06-10 15:57
better for sure. its not balanced when people hold long range angles with a awp and onetap you...
2019-06-11 00:08
flag checks out, braindead comment. awp costs 4800 and doesnt spray.
2019-06-14 05:54
Let's remove the awp then too op.
2019-06-14 05:28
and obviously the 2nd dumbest nation checking in too. #108
2019-06-14 05:54
United States of America average IQ: 91 Australia average IQ: 104 Faroe Islands average IQ: 77 "2nd dumbest nation" So Awp costs 1.5k more than aug but the difference is it is a complete one shot kill. So what if you can spray with an AUG? It doesn't one shot someone on any part of their body. Removing the aug will not be better, it's something that has become solid in the CSGO community. However, they should change the spray for the Aug so it is more difficult to just spray someone down. If you remove an aug, you might as well remove the dac dac honestly
2019-06-14 06:54
he changed his flag. was french before :) awp is high risk high reward. if you dont onetap with aug, you still have 29 bullets,a scope and easy spray to shoot BIG ASS ENEMY BODIES.
2019-06-14 10:00
the awp is a high risk high reward if you run around with it like a p90. If you can't use it, you just suck. Also French are still smart? They're shit cunts, but still smart
2019-06-16 04:35
United Kingdom Isquashua 
They've been the same guns for years. Now you call them broken?
2019-06-10 15:56
they have not been the same guns for years lol. price is important too
2019-06-14 05:39
aug same price as it has been for years
2019-06-15 14:24
back then when aug cost 3300 none on pro scene knew that the gun is actually better than m4, so that wasnt a problem.
2019-06-15 18:02
Sweden DobeIWTD 
Aug spray in letters-Fuck you Sg spray in letters-kolesutjygå9iw4ew7629846yuwuieyh90wÿ4u
2019-06-10 15:57
+1 haha
2019-06-10 16:03
2019-06-14 06:54
they have to. i mean the reason they updated aug/sg price was to create more DIVERSITY. now everyone plays aug. that wasnt their goal. another price bump incoming.
2019-06-10 15:57
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France LanaRhoades 
3400/3500 would be great
2019-06-10 15:59
its just 100/200 more. i really think it needs to be 3800, because people realized NOW how OP it is.
2019-06-10 16:00
France LanaRhoades 
3800 is too high , imo max 3600/3650
2019-06-10 16:02
If you want to use OP weapon, so you have to invest OP money 3800 just fair enought, you have to damage your economy if you die, only that people will think twice about using that gun
2019-06-10 16:03
France LanaRhoades 
They need to do it step by step , not change it like from 3300 to 3800
2019-06-10 16:03
you always have to keep an eye on two things. how much do i invest more picking it up over an m4 and what do i get from that. 3600 would be fine i guess. thats a smoke and a flash.
2019-06-10 16:11
they should increase the price to 3500 and decrease m4 to 2900 to balance economy out for t CT
2019-06-10 20:05
2019-06-14 16:03
they should also change spray so it's a bit more harder to just hold it down
2019-06-14 06:54
United States YouCanTrustMe 
so for how long did the aug have those same stats before and wasn't op ?
2019-06-10 15:58
It's had the same stats for over 4 years besides the price drop last year (and subsequent increase)
2019-06-10 16:11
United States YouCanTrustMe 
yea so right now this weapon has the same stats as it had for 4 years and now its all of a sudden OP
2019-06-10 16:13
Yeah pros and vast majority of high skilled players ignored the Aug because everyone thought the AK/m4 can't be beaten until they tried out the $3150 Aug. It still has massive usage now when it went back to its old price of $3300 and now lots are saying "its overpowered".
2019-06-10 16:55
Austria iVolcan 
Sg is good for entries single kills, AK better for spray multiple kills
2019-06-10 15:59
wtf men, sg one tap with scope too op, srsly
2019-06-10 16:00
the gun has 100% armor pen. 3 shots at pelvis = enemy dead
2019-06-10 16:58
2019-06-10 19:57
Im still useing m4 and ak, im just too used to it i guess.
2019-06-10 15:59
AUG-SG improved CSGO, now it feels more fresh and more interesting to play thanks valve for this update
2019-06-10 16:00
nt boombla
2019-06-10 16:00
cry more hiko, no team and bad hahahahahah learn to play with aug maybe someone will pick you up
2019-06-10 16:01
wtf i'm not hiko i'm just a big fan of he biggest NA player who ever exists
2019-06-10 16:02
wtf im not boombla
2019-06-10 16:03
nt shara then
2019-06-10 16:04
nt biguzera
2019-06-10 16:08
haha biguzera how u know him XXDD nt prodka
2019-06-10 16:09
nt jonty
2019-06-10 16:10
nt chernobyl
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2019-06-10 16:16
What, i mean the series, great one
2019-06-10 16:17
oh yeah he is sure a "big" player ahhhhahahaha
2019-06-10 16:06
lol homofobic reported
2019-06-10 16:06
what was homofobic about that?
2019-06-10 16:07
idk just reported
2019-06-10 16:09
U have seen it?
2019-06-15 11:04
wtfmens i was referring to him being fat
2019-06-15 14:57
i know mens i just took it further
2019-06-16 19:28
2019-06-10 16:03
Aug always was a good weapon I remember the old 1.5 days but the gun até really expensive at the time, i think was 4k
2019-06-10 16:21
Twistzz | 
Sweden davv4 
+1111 learn to adapt and challenge yourself if you still prefer the old guns.
2019-06-14 10:56
Fuck remove sg and aug or make them 3400,3600 respectively. Ak is so much better. Just see bunch of noobs in Kreiguria who can't control its recoil, just 1tapping with scope.
2019-06-10 16:04
Furia ssg/aug playstyle is disgusting to watch. But silvers are excited ofc.
2019-06-14 11:35
Agreed they are very boring.
2019-06-10 16:15
well sg was always that strong just kids were stickin to ak cuz reasons, but people use it cuz dmg, 1 shot hs with scope easy to tap etc. and sg recoil is worse than ak recoil just sayin
2019-06-10 16:19
They need to high the price again nota necessary to Nerf. Still Very cheap. I prefer a game with Ak and m4 tô watch, than a Full aug and SG game.
2019-06-10 16:19
great argument, you realize aug and sg players can say literally the same?
2019-06-10 16:20
I play with AUG and SG right now, but it's not fun to watch in a professional match like AKxM4
2019-06-11 00:05
Stop complaining. Meta is changing all the time. Use flashes, ask for fb. ez kills
2019-06-10 17:01
instead of nerfing guns they should rotate defuse maps into hostage maps for better meta
2019-06-10 17:27
Uhm, the SG spray is still extremely wonky with the scope.
2019-06-10 17:28
Europe martwica 
Sg and aug are better to watch than ak and m4 tbh
2019-06-10 17:28
no fucking way they are...
2019-06-10 20:15
it's subjective so there is no right or wrong answer
2019-06-15 14:49
if anything it made it more exciting. A bunch of new teams started playing really well and also agressively. And there's a lot more recoil on sg and also harder to master
2019-06-10 17:29
Brazil igster 
2019-06-14 05:27
Playing better because it makes the skill gap less when you can ADS hold a angle and 1 tap The scopes need removed or the price needs increased The AK and M4 make people to have more precision over a bigger hit Model ADS
2019-06-14 06:45
We need a Bazooka to broken walls and door
2019-06-11 00:06
so you want the same m4 ak since 1950 and no new guns in meta?
2019-06-11 00:10
Even though I dont play AUG at First I thought that it would be good for the pro scene so the game is not as t sided. Now I can say that AUG is bad from a viewer perspective, cts are holding passive angles all day long because they are confident that the scope gives them the advantage. Cs without AUG >>> Cs with AUG
2019-06-11 00:12
So you want cs 1.3? The aug has been in cs since then
2019-06-15 01:14
not this way. I thought about not using it, not about removing it at all
2019-06-15 10:45
+remove this aug.shit
2019-06-11 00:14
United Kingdom xJMS 
They need to remove the scopes becomes a game of scoped SG and AUG just remove the scopes - Scopes from AUG & SG Valve Please
2019-06-14 05:25
ZywOo | 
France MrWowo 
Why not
2019-06-15 15:22
Exactly can imagine that being hard to do surely there would be way less viable
2019-06-18 23:45
Brazil igster 
2019-06-14 05:26
Sweden MANDlNGO 
Cry is free They said
2019-06-14 05:28
stfu dude it's recoil isn't 0 ffs and pros never spray with SG cause it has a terrible recoil.
2019-06-14 05:34
aug stupid OP sg not tht bad but it hurts me inside to see red dot site csgo
2019-06-14 05:37
Not agreed, even if AUG is OP, you can buy a SG as T to counter the AUG. The opposite can happen as well. If you insist in complaining, either you don't want to get out of confort zone and try new weapons or you are just someone that doesn't know how to use the weapon properly.
2019-06-14 05:39
"even if AUG is OP, you can buy a SG as T to counter the AUG" 1.It's OP,even you said it,It should either get a nerf or much higher price. 2.No,SG doesn't counter AUGs,It can counter only AWPs that miss or pick when they shouldn't,nothing can counter a CT that positioned himself well with the AUG(even if it's not that good of a player).
2019-06-14 05:49
You know what can counter a well positioned CT with an AUG.. A $200 flash. Learn to play.
2019-06-15 11:18
I guess PROs don't know how to play either in that case: "NiKo ‏Verified account @fazeniko Mar 8 Can we get AUG nerfed already, please? @csgo_dev 😭" Fucking imbecile,even PROs think that AUG is retarded but there always ahs to be a moron like you saying "OMG,JUST FLASH HIM NOOB,SILVER,BOT WTF?!?!?!?"
2019-06-15 14:19
2019-06-15 16:17
Oh that again,you keep saying the same stupid stuff then you are getting suprised when I always use the same answer?
2019-06-15 17:14
Just started playing SG couple days ago. It's real fucking op, scope and 1 shot kill ez. Also the spray isnt too bad when u get used to it. Specially the first 10 bullets isn't hard. Maybe AK is better when need spraydown but realistically it isn't. SG slightly better fire rate than AK too. I expect price to go up again soon. AUG I also love, easy gun to use.
2019-06-14 05:50
Btw its kind of funny that it took CS players fucking 6 years to realize how op AUG is.
2019-06-14 05:52
Twistzz | 
Sweden davv4 
no cause they boosted it by lowering price recently!
2019-06-14 11:04
yeah and after nerf its still widely used because its so good. SG usage will go up too I think.
2019-06-14 11:30
Sweden Trkmag 
+1 just fucking giganerf them, scoped rifles are overpowered as hell, removes all skill, makes for boring gameplay and should more or less be removed from the game
2019-06-14 06:32
This is 100% true i believe they should at-least remove the scopes they have no place in csgo it just turns into ADS game and you see the rise of lower teams due to the scopes smaller skill gap Removing the scopes should be a fix no place for this
2019-06-14 06:40
African Union Nikotop10LUL 
I feel like furia would go back to tier99 if they nerf aug and sg
2019-06-14 11:28
Poland perun2033 
like as ENCE
2019-06-14 11:53
Stop crying all the time silvers. if u cant adapt then stop playing.
2019-06-14 11:43
Stop crying all the time silvers. if u cant take it then stop browsing hltv forum.
2019-06-15 11:08
What about going back to old style scopes?
2019-06-14 12:21
Taiwan SCVready 
Imagine starting to complain about this now after both guns have been in the games for years.
2019-06-14 12:26
yes scope era is shit
2019-06-14 12:29
Indonesia urutosiar 
-AUG-SG ruined csgo -the guns been there since 1.6
2019-06-14 15:28
Finland Karppanator 
How the fuck do they start crying about viable guns, I'm happy that finally there are more to CS:GO than pistol variance, there's also variance in the big guns. They're not even OP both of them (AUG, Krieg), there's nothing changed on them in 3 years.
2019-06-14 15:33
There is no variance tho
2019-06-15 11:09
2019-06-15 10:59
Get over it and l2p
2019-06-15 11:09
sg has difficult control bruh but aug need nerf i agree with what
2019-06-15 11:11
How is this topic even still a thing. Its fucking retarded. The only reason people weren't using those guns was because of the price and the way strats were developed over years and years. Thats why it was so OP when the price dropped, suddenly you could have a better gun AND utility and you could counter every strat because they were all based around worse guns. Basically teams were getting wrecked because suddenly heir strats didnt work against the increased firepower. Now that teams have adapted. there are no more blowout CT sided games. Because unlike the braindead people on this forum, pros know how to stop crying and use whatever they can to win. Delete this thread, uninstall CSGO, and go play something else.
2019-06-15 11:15
"Now that teams have adapted. there are no more blowout CT sided games." The only retarded person here is you,there is no more blowout CT sided games BCZ CTs NOW ARE WINNING EASIER THAN EVER,amazing plays aren't required with the retarded cod gun like AUG. "Because unlike the braindead people on this forum, pros know how to stop crying and use whatever they can to win." You are wrong once again. "NiKo ‏Verified account @fazeniko Mar 8 Can we get AUG nerfed already, please? @csgo_dev 😭" And It's not that PROs wouldn't complain about the AUG and nerf him If they could,PROs are not complaining bcz they do not have a choice when a bunch of idiots like you think that AUG is a good weapon for the game,they are not crying bcz they know that majority of ppl will listen to retards like you saying that AUG is not bad for the game bcz one of those stupid reasons: "WTF IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT." "IT COSTS MORE THAN THE M4,THEREFORE IT CAN'T BE OP BCZ IT'S SOO EAZY TO FLASH HIM."
2019-06-15 14:27
again, lol
2019-06-15 16:19
Again what?
2019-06-15 17:11
Scopes ruined mankind.
2019-06-15 14:21
Denmark Henry1887 
remove from game
2019-06-15 14:23
Other khorkalba 
I find it ironic that the people whining about the AUG/SG are the same who want the AWP nerf to be reversed. Both are ways for the developer to make the game easier and more accessible for players who lack the mechanical skill to click on heads. If the game was purely skill based, then there would be absolutely no need to have any scoped weapons. Especially not in an FPS game with such small maps.
2019-06-15 14:31
L.K.S | 
Brazil Exfm 
Just reduce AK, and M4 price and its all good
2019-06-15 14:33
lol i played sg and aug since the beginning if you dont like it then dont play the game simple as that
2019-06-15 14:51
I always have fun when I see such topics from silver. AUG has not changed, today it is as it was 3 years ago. All silvers who are suddenly crying now that it is too good have been late for a few years.
2019-06-15 14:55
African Union Nikotop10LUL 
Damn i didnt know niko was silver. -niko +kocir
2019-06-15 15:00
from what I remember, Niko complained about AUG in January when it had a lower price. Now this weapon is like in 2016 and no one can complain about it if he has not done it for the last 3 years, otherwise he is a hypocrite who cries because he loses.
2019-06-15 15:06
African Union Nikotop10LUL 
Just because its still the same doesnt mean its not op, its just took valve lowering the price for players to figure it out. The price difference between aug and m4 doesnt make up for all the advantages that the aug has over m4, aug is scope and hold mouse1 just watch any pro game, 10 scopes every round. And the sg is superior to the ak in every way possible and there is only a 50$ difference.
2019-06-15 15:17
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
People already use SG instead of AK, which is kinda annoying. They have switched already. it's not just on progress.
2019-06-15 15:11
ZywOo | 
France MrWowo 
1 kills with m4 = waw 5 kills with Aug = meh 1 kills with ak = ONE taaaap 5 kills with sg = No please no -Aug -sg
2019-06-15 15:21
twice | 
Australia tavalol 
agree but idk how u balance it. sg needs price increase but tbh so does aug. maybe make them both 3500 and make m4 2900
2019-06-15 15:22
Mongolia k0ng0 
I agree that the meta has become more boring after aug and sg became popular.
2019-06-15 16:20
I think its good because the META make you learn and use other gun. And just the match is more variative because not only battle between M4 and AK
2019-06-15 16:26
valve is ruined CSGO.
2019-06-16 04:40
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