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is GUARDIAN the best awper in the world???
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Argentina n4ziS1mple 
is it me or is olofmeister a bit of a boring player like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow device has 32 kills" but u can never remember them. can u remember a single device kill ? but try guardian...u can see the flick i remember a guardian flick. youtube.com/watch?v=v8Nq-ojWA2o Look at his BEST FLICKS . like . device just hold a fucking angle with his awp and get some kills . but guardian can flick and get nice shots vs the enemy team.. also GuardiaN > KennyS GuardiaN > FalleN GuardiaN > S1mple (With awp) GuardiaN >>>> Device
2019-06-12 06:25
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#1
FalleN | 
Brazil NahT_
IS not
2019-06-12 06:26
XD
2019-06-13 15:09
lul
2019-06-13 15:10
No
2019-06-12 06:29
Guardian is the best defensive awper, he can flick etc but you never see him agress or anything and when he does he dies.
2019-06-12 06:31
Say me best aggresive one?
2019-06-12 06:36
s1
2019-06-12 06:50
#20
rain | 
Libya Planum
S1 literally never goes in first
2019-06-12 07:20
S1mple is often out there getting entry frags when needed. Same with ZyWoo. Idk if there really is anyone who is constantly aggressive every round but those i mentioned are very good agressive awpers when needed.
2019-06-12 07:29
Not many awpers go into the site first
2019-06-12 10:51
#67
rain | 
Libya Planum
That's besides the point
2019-06-12 19:01
#12
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Finland mustiGOD
sixer, draken
2019-06-12 06:59
sixer LUL
2019-06-12 08:24
Sixer? You are joking right?
2019-06-13 01:21
#97
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Argentina n4ziS1mple
SIXER? OMEGALUL
2019-06-13 06:21
#25
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Europe Hempxz
kennyS kNg
2019-06-12 07:43
Kenny in 2019
2019-06-12 09:38
He isnt THE kennyS but he doesnt choke like guardian
2019-06-13 01:24
He doesnt reach finals
2019-06-13 08:08
XD
2019-06-13 08:20
And simple hasn't won a single major. It doesn't mean that he isn't the best player in CSGO
2019-06-13 20:21
#26
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Australia Irtiza
Cerq stew art zywoo
2019-06-12 07:49
2014-2015 kennys
2019-06-13 01:21
#108
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Germany zoieN
Poizon
2019-06-13 09:16
#112
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Finland Faifainei
God allu of course! Always getting the opening kills ez
2019-06-13 10:41
bot allu
2019-06-13 10:55
Totally different person!
2019-06-13 11:51
#114
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Poland ruhoks
snatchie
2019-06-13 10:59
I think that comes from him having played in navi for a long time. He was always set up to get the frags that were required for the round, so he didn't have to just run out and take duels everywhere like s1mple does for example nowadays. I agree that he's the best at what he does.
2019-06-12 09:41
#56
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Argentina n4ziS1mple
+1
2019-06-12 10:35
Device: exists
2019-06-12 09:41
#5
JoJo | 
Russia N1kDaN
Ladislav cyka Kovacs
2019-06-12 06:39
guardian >>>> device (yes) guardian >>>> KennyS (big no) guardian >>>> fallen (no) guardian >>>> s1mple (hell no)
2019-06-12 06:42
#18
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New Zealand rowdog
better then fallen.....yes
2019-06-12 07:16
no, fallen >> guardian keep crying
2019-06-12 19:11
you are the one who living in the past look at #62 lul
2019-06-12 14:10
As far as flicking goes no one flicks better than Kenny and that's a fact. But he is definitely better than the likes of fallen and simple.
2019-06-14 08:38
Nt
2019-06-12 06:45
Definitely not the best awper.
2019-06-12 06:47
Just because GuardiaN is more flashy doesn't mean hes better. Thats not how cs works...
2019-06-12 06:49
he is most consistent awper since he is pro :/
2019-06-12 19:33
>GuardiaN >flashy AWPer ?????
2019-06-13 11:01
#117
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Portugal TAK3NGOD
Wtf ahah, u don't know what flashy means do you?
2019-06-13 11:10
Maybe best in 2015 but not ATM
2019-06-12 06:51
How many majors GuardiaN got now?
2019-06-12 07:00
How many tournaments have liquid chocked??
2019-06-12 07:05
Out of topic lol
2019-06-12 07:06
#21
rain | 
Libya Planum
And how are his majors relevant to how good he is as an awper? Majors come from teamplay, that's why s1 has none.
2019-06-12 07:22
Majors are about teamplay yes, however, when you've been to 3 major grand finals with decent/good teams and still lose all three, it really tells you something. MLG Columbus - Against a new LG, Navi were the favorites to win but they got destroyed. 2-0 Dreamhack Cluj Napoca - Battle between who would be crowned the best AWPer in the world, kennyS won. 2-0 Eleague Boston Major 2018 - FaZe were undisputedly the HUGE favorites against Cloud9 yet they still found a way to choke and lose. 2-1
2019-06-12 09:05
+1
2019-06-12 09:11
At the time of MLG, GuardiaN had an injured wrist, so in the final he had crank up his sensitivity, and did really badly. Might seem like an excuse, but realistically, I don't think it would be as much of a shitstomp as it was, potentially going to Map 3. At the Boston Major final, GuardiaN didn't choke at all, it was rain and NiKo who choked hard, but I agree, that final was a fucking disaster and should have been won soundly, considering they won C9's pick of Mirage.
2019-06-12 09:20
+1
2019-06-14 02:53
#43
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Argentina n4ziS1mple
FAZE VS Cloud9 . that was karrigan's fault . for choking...
2019-06-12 09:30
#101
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African Union Parasyte
Clearly his fault that why they were so bad for month when he left the team
2019-06-13 08:18
Well it wasn't really him choking, it was more of NiKo and rain.
2019-06-14 02:54
#55
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Europe 27
check the stats of these finals you named, you will see who rly choked and who was carrying the team - it was guardian
2019-06-12 09:46
I'm not saying that Guardian choked, I'm just merely pointing out how he's gone to 3 major finals with good teams yet still falls short of the major win.
2019-06-14 02:55
Not his fault.. he played good in this 3 finals The first final vs envyus , they lost train 16-14 , if they won they would win the major the 2nd major , well , no chance vs LG the 3rd major that was karrigan's fault for choking
2019-06-14 09:25
I wouldn't say that if they won train they would've won the major. They got destroyed on Cobblestone and Envyus (including kennyS) most likely would've brought that momentum over to the 3rd map.
2019-06-14 20:10
How many major guardian won is also out of topic when we talk about great individual skill :)
2019-06-12 09:36
#16
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Japan Switchance
Yes, he is at top performance. But his consistency is a bit lacking.
2019-06-12 07:08
#17
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Romania RunnerB0Y
Yes GuradiaN GOAT of AWPers
2019-06-12 07:14
#24
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Hungary Sklytsk
+1
2019-06-12 07:40
#58
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Argentina n4ziS1mple
+1
2019-06-12 10:41
Not best right now top5 yes But YES THE FUCKING AWP GOAT
2019-06-12 07:19
device has been a consistent apwer and gets impact kills
2019-06-12 07:38
#110
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Sweden bonisMEN
Angle holder DeViCe
2019-06-13 10:01
+1 he's fucking overrated and boring af to watch
2019-06-14 09:53
#27
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Australia Irtiza
Team play>individual skill
2019-06-12 07:50
I don't like Device a lot and i do really like guardian, kennys and s1mple but facts are facts for something and those 32 frags you mention about device is what haas given him 3 majors. Device is the best like it or not.
2019-06-12 07:52
Better clip frag > consistency Ethiopia logic
2019-06-12 07:54
Guardian is certainly the most consistent...
2019-06-12 09:33
Guardian=Good since 2012 Device=good since 2015 LMFAOOOOOO
2019-06-12 19:00
>device >good Pick one lol
2019-06-12 19:06
exactly ahahahahahashahaha
2019-06-12 19:07
2019-06-12 19:07
stats don't matter much also hltv.org/stats/players/clutches/7592/1on.. hltv.org/stats/players/clutches/2757/1on.. Guardian>Dev1ce on clutches hltv.org/player/2757/GuardiaN hltv.org/player/7592/device Guardian>Dev1ce More and better average top 20s Also do you remember a Guardian flick??Because I hell do Guardian>Dev1ce on awp Dev1ce is better at rifles which makes him having higher stats than guardian 3>1 Cry is free btw Edit:0.04 rating difference ahahahahahahahahah.Dev1ce is getting set up by his team and he was in part of the best teams in history for 1 year boosting his stats to ell.Before 2018 Guardian was>>>>>>>>>>>Dev1ce with 2016 being a small exceptions due to injury 2012 Guardian>2012 Dev1ce 2013 Guardian>2013 Dev1ce 2014 Guardian>2014 Dev1ce 2015 Guardian>2015 Dev1ce 2016 Guardian<2016 Dev1ce 2017 Guardian>2017 Dev1ce 2018 Guardian<2018 Dev1ce Cry is free btw
2019-06-12 19:13
"Guardian is certainly the most consistent" "stats don't matter much" Ok
2019-06-12 19:12
if 0.04 difference is bigger than Better clutches and more clutches+More top20s then you are mistaken AHAHAHAHAHAHA
2019-06-12 19:13
ALSO awp kills per round Guardian 0.42 Dev1ce 0.24 Kekkkkkkkk Thats a stat that matter for awpers and opening kills where dev1ce is a little better than guardian and clutching where guardian absoloutely reks him
2019-06-12 19:16
#94
valde | 
Denmark QBE_
I think GuardiaN is the best AWPer of all time in CSGO, but how good is guardian with rifles compared to device since device doesn't rely on the awp just as much as guardian does, and that clutch stat rlly isn't showing anything when device has xyp9x on his team who is meant to be the last person alive and clutch the round for Astralis
2019-06-13 01:39
400 DPI 1.30 ))) That's just the reason why it makes it good defensively, because it has a low sensitivity but for the aggressive side, Zywoo/kennyS> all
2019-06-12 08:58
#35
rigoN | 
Belgium ZxTox
He has mous accl. which makes his sens ~1.7 400dpi
2019-06-12 09:10
#37
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Georgia Broozman
I'm the best, shut up)))
2019-06-12 09:11
#38
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Australia JAY_DAWG
All awpers can flick, I have seen all of your listed awpers flick, including device, but I do agree with when GuardiaN flicks, it is always a great one.
2019-06-12 09:12
Stop comparing S1mple to kenny or guardian S1mple isnt even an awper he will never be an awper he's all round player he got nothing on kenny or guardian
2019-06-12 09:13
#41
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Austria mo_bamba
KennyS is best awper in cs go
2019-06-12 09:21
#45
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Argentina n4ziS1mple
rofl.. nt
2019-06-12 09:33
buceta lol
2019-06-12 19:06
#84
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Argentina n4ziS1mple
lul
2019-06-13 01:19
Ladislav Cyka Kovács
2019-06-12 09:26
The rollercoaster of emotion TItle: Guardian Hook: Olofmeister Body: Device Conclusion: Guardian I'll give it a C+ and let you pass the class
2019-06-12 09:36
#51
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Netherlands Yourii
+1
2019-06-12 09:39
#50
rain | 
Netherlands Yourii
You have a good point but why randomly blame olof? Its about device and guardian right?
2019-06-12 09:39
lol +1
2019-06-12 19:05
It's a maybe an "old" by now HLTV meme.
2019-06-13 08:52
s it me or is olofmeister a bit of a boring player like u see it at the end of the game "oh wow device has 32 kills" gj
2019-06-12 09:40
#57
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India otgps
IT certainly feels like it when watching
2019-06-12 10:37
guardian and the other awpers are good but, KENNYS STİLL AWP GOD
2019-06-12 10:52
Greatest AWP of all time
2019-06-12 10:53
#103
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United States DeeSeL
Yea!
2019-06-13 08:34
s1mple > ALL
2019-06-12 10:58
Guardian is amazing, but i don't think he's the best awper in the world, also i don't know another awper better than him.
2019-06-12 19:04
When it comes to awp he is definitely the best one.
2019-06-12 19:15
#79
ropz | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w
nope oskar > botardian
2019-06-12 19:16
#81
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Kazakhstan tomik0
oskar? That tir3 oskar from HR? oh yea him
2019-06-12 19:29
#83
ropz | 
Czech Republic y0fl0w
better awper than guardian.. thats it? seriously
2019-06-12 19:42
good joke lmao
2019-06-14 09:33
skadoodle better
2019-06-13 01:23
It is funny how many people don't even know the meme. Nice try to revive it, though.
2019-06-13 01:25
guardian and device for most consistent kennys and s1mple for highest skill ceiling honorable mentions: cerq, fallen, zywoo
2019-06-13 01:27
of all time kenny> guardian they nerfed the awp because of kennyS
2019-06-13 01:31
#92
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Brazil MrLucas
All time: KennyS Now: Zywoo
2019-06-13 01:35
who the fuck is zywoo
2019-06-13 08:50
#111
JaCkz | 
Singapore ZyZy
You missed the greatest setup in hltv history for a Zywho? joke
2019-06-13 10:36
:DDDDD
2019-06-13 12:13
Hes not the best AWPer right now. He doesn't have the highest peak, but hes probably the most consistent of all times, every top 20 etc. I want him to get a major.
2019-06-13 06:30
#100
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Brunei GucciLeIe
Agree GuardiaN >>> device but not GuardiaN > kennyS at his peak
2019-06-13 08:16
If you take everything into account, yes for sure. But I won't deny even as a GuardiaN fan that KennyS at his peak was something else and the most skilled from both (but there's a lot more to it than just raw skill and it's been a long way since KennyS glory days). Zywoo is probably the best one we have now.
2019-06-13 08:49
He's very good no doubt about it, his flicks are as good as they come, but you're talking absolutely dribble if you think device has no impact lol. Watch devices game closely he is extremely smart and positioning himself, he knows when to take fights and knows when to fall back after a frag or two, he does not go tunnel vision mode and go for heroic frags. He's probably one of the smartest players in the game When you frags just come into your Crosshair yes it's not flashy and you may not "remember them" If you watch simple especially on CT the opposite site is getting taken he waits for flank kills thst rotates kills some more then runs away to save and kills the rest chasing him. His death numbers compared to his team there is a massive difference, when navi wins a game the deaths are even, also frag numbers when navi wins he's barely on top. Back to guardian, yes he looked brilliant early CSGO with teams just playing 1 by 1 gaming and feeding him but the game has changed and teAms are wiser, there is way less one by one gaming, Hense device play style is more effective. It's like saying scream is the best AK user, cos of wuntap.
2019-06-13 09:11
Its just easier to remember one of 10 kills than 32
2019-06-13 09:18
#118
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Europe xrnavkha
no closed
2019-06-13 11:10
yes
2019-06-13 11:47
I think yes, he best
2019-06-13 12:19
When we are talking about insane flicks the first in mind comes kennyS...
2019-06-13 12:37
He is the most consistent awper of all time for sure, that's why he is the best of all time.
2019-06-13 12:41
#125
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Ukraine beazztov
For all time - yes
2019-06-13 12:42
#126
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Ivory Coast Takepot
No
2019-06-13 12:43
LMAO, Jugi > Guardian
2019-06-13 15:10
allu > all
2019-06-13 15:11
Everytime I think of dev1ce I only remember a 3k on cache or something and it was boring af.
2019-06-13 15:12
#134
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Korea XigNw0w
Xeta best
2019-06-14 02:53
s1mple > all
2019-06-14 02:56
Hit nice shots<WIN THINGS AND BE A GOOD TEAMMATE
2019-06-14 02:59
Dev1ce has only 3 more tournaments than Device and according to hltv.org twitter.com/Tgwri1s/status/1138116914121.. He is 15th player with the most lans won and counting HiT nIcE sHoTs<WiN tHiNgS aNd Be A gOoD tEaMmAtE
2019-06-14 09:36
+1
2019-06-14 09:32
#149
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Poland Totali_
I remember a guardian flick
2019-06-14 10:02
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