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Post your C9 fixes
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
My fix is: Autimatic (Lurker/Secondary AWP) TenZ (Support) Golden (IGL) Wardell (AWPer) OR Koosta (Rifler) Depending on if Tim fancies AWPing or not Floppy (Entry)
2019-06-14 00:05
#1
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Daps is also an option, and given how adept he is in developing young talent he should certainly be considered, but probably in a coaching role (With Valens going back to being an analyst). Personally, I prefer Golden over Daps in game though.
2019-06-14 00:05
Steel > Daps
2019-06-14 00:30
Steel cant play majors tho, might be something they dont wanna deal with
2019-06-14 00:38
#59
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 00:40
golden > steel
2019-06-14 12:40
#150
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
NA steel or BR steel?
2019-06-14 12:41
na steel; i don't know about br steel
2019-06-14 12:41
#152
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Golden’s better than both anyway tbh
2019-06-14 12:42
probably yes golden big epic
2019-06-14 12:42
#209
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Sweden Lagge15 
Both
2019-06-16 06:24
#48
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United Kingdom Weslleyy5 
Golden - IGL and a good fragger Autimatic Wardell or Smooya - both insane potential and might both have low buyouts, can take the awp role off of autimatic who is much better as a rifler Tenz - young player and inexperienced player, but this was Stewie and Auti at one point Nifty - While he doesn't always perform extremely well when he is very good, and I doubt he would want to be stuck playing on a team like Envy when c9 are slightly better
2019-06-14 00:35
#60
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1 +1 +1 on Wardell, but Smooya is going back to BIG's active lineup +1 Disagree on Nifty - why have two AWPers? A player like Floppy or Moose would be much better imo, even Wrath - grabbing some young hungry talent is what they need
2019-06-14 00:41
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TenZ | 
United Kingdom Weslleyy5 
Didn’t think about moose, I think Tenz is a must. Other then the obvious players he’s got the most potential in NA, I’m surprised someone like complexity hasn’t tried for him already
2019-06-14 01:16
#93
TenZ | 
United Kingdom Weslleyy5 
I think if you’re gonna have Wrath your igl should be daps
2019-06-14 01:22
#95
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Daps should be the coach, with Valens being the analyst. Daps is amazing at what he does, which is building up young talent. Having him work with them off the server, alongside Golden, with Golden calling ingame (Due to his better technicals) would be great for them.
2019-06-14 01:28
Could be good, I’m assuming daps still wants to igl but in an ideal world that would be it. I’m shocked C9 didn’t go for someone like Yay or nifty when they were free agents. It’s gonna be pretty upsetting if c9 sign JDM, that would be the worst decision I’ve ever seen but wouldn’t surprise me at this point
2019-06-14 01:47
GOLDEN IS NOT A GOOD FRAGGER, NOR A GOOD IGL
2019-06-14 02:20
#123
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Golden is a better fragger than Daps and he's a solid IGL too
2019-06-14 02:20
maybe better than daps. If golden was a good IGL he would be able to beat New Identity and The Quest. He has a team with fairly skilled players and he cant utilise them good enough. Rush used to be amazing, now he is dog shit. daps on the other hand made NRG an arguably top 5 team that competes with the best.
2019-06-14 02:23
#181
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Latvia Kirbys 
This is a good roster, kudos tou you
2019-06-14 15:04
#55
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Brazil frkkZ 
what about sonic? he a good player (always carried bravado) and speaks english, as he is south african
2019-06-14 00:38
#62
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
A decent idea, but I feel like he'll stick it out with EnVy for a while first
2019-06-14 00:42
disband
2019-06-14 00:14
+1
2019-06-14 00:22
#46
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United States Azuhh 
+1 i dont even know why people are still fixing this team
2019-06-14 00:34
#112
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Europe Sam2k 
+1
2019-06-14 01:54
+1 Autimatic to Liquid.
2019-06-18 01:37
#3
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Jordan xrealx369 
I like your fix
2019-06-14 00:06
#4
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Thank you
2019-06-14 00:08
#8
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Brazil danrileu 
i like you...
2019-06-14 00:09
#17
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Jordan xrealx369 
Ty kind sir
2019-06-14 00:17
#139
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Canada TorontoSucks 
yall both touch tips i bet
2019-06-14 12:28
#149
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Jordan xrealx369 
why so jealous
2019-06-14 12:40
#175
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Canada TorontoSucks 
Wish I could have a Brazilian bf 8===D
2019-06-14 14:06
#177
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Jordan xrealx369 
lul
2019-06-14 14:43
daps auti smooya tenz sunny
2019-06-14 00:08
#9
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Smooya is joining BIG again and suNny won't want to come to such an unstable roster Daps and TenZ could be solid and realistic options for C9 though
2019-06-14 00:09
#6
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United States TorrN_ 
Keep the core but minor fix Autimatic CajanB Golden Tenz Daps NA Fix Autimatic Koosta Wardel Tenz Daps EU Fix CajanB Golden Styko Kioshima Flusha
2019-06-14 00:08
#12
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
First fix: Why would you ever have Daps and Golden in the same team? Thats stupid NA fix: Love it, though I'd rather have Floppy over Wardell or Koosta (Depending on if Auti wants to AWP) EU fix: Replace Styko with suNny and its solid, though very very unrealistic
2019-06-14 00:11
#15
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United States TorrN_ 
1. Golden is a decent fragger to start off, So Lifting a bit of weight off of his shoulders and have him trying to frag would be interesting You could change Daps for Koosta maybe? IDK. 2. I thought about Floppy but went with keeping Koosta and Wardell together. But I understand that 3. Another Idea for an EU Fix would also be CajanB Golden Styko suNny Kioshima as flusha is still inactive.
2019-06-14 00:15
#20
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Personally I think that Cajunb is done in C9 regardless, so replacing him with Koosta and grabbing Floppy to replace Daps in Team 1 is great As for team 2, I understand your logic and if TIm changes his mind on AWPing this is a decent idea for them Team 3 is questionable as kio didn't like playing under Golden and Cajunb isn't great, much like Styko. Maybe he'd be better going back to the primary AWP role, but idk
2019-06-14 00:21
Impossible to have Daps and G0lden together. They both have IGL instincts and that will get in the way of the team sooner or later regardless of who calls shots.
2019-06-18 00:46
#256
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-18 00:48
Autimatic Daps or Brazil steel Wardell if they can sign him Koosta kng
2019-06-14 00:08
#13
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
KNG? Nah lol, he'd destroy them massively Koosta, Wardell, Auti, and Daps are decent choices but not KNG
2019-06-14 00:13
NA steel > daps and br steel
2019-06-14 00:29
Why tf would C9 sign someone that cant participate in a major. Think smart, thanks.
2019-06-14 00:29
#58
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 00:40
kng has visa issues with the US and doesn't even speak english fluently
2019-06-14 01:50
what about chelo? How's his English?
2019-06-14 01:51
#107
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
His CS is the bigger issue here tbh
2019-06-14 01:52
Chelo is so underrated. His aim is unreal, and gets overlooked because of KNG
2019-06-14 01:53
#111
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
He's also got a 0.97 Rating 2.0 in the last 3 months
2019-06-14 01:54
Have taken time away from cs lately, I believe it was family issues. And you're another classic hltv user that thinks a rating proves their skill
2019-06-14 01:56
#115
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
While rating isn't everything, its absolutely an important part of CS in most cases. Especially in the modern game, where each player is expected to hold their own. There's a reason why players such as Styko have drifted into obscurity and Daps was removed from NRG despite both of them being excellent role players, and that reason is that stats are important. They bring a lot to the table, but as they lack too much in numbers they're too weak to have on. Even if Chelo is a decent player in his role, he's not the sort of guy who's gonna save C9 and bring them back to being a T1-2 team at all.
2019-06-14 01:59
Chelo put in somewhat of a star player role in c9 could do serious damage. And you mentioned styko whom have proved that he can frag when he doesnt play like the team's shield.
2019-06-14 02:04
#117
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
But with both players, their fragging in a star role wouldn't be enough. C9 could grab some much better NA talents, like Floppy, Wrath, TenZ, Wardell, Koosta etc who are all better than Chelo and are also NA players. Bringing in hungry young NA players and moulding them into their roles will be great for both the players and the org.
2019-06-14 02:07
floppy, wrath and Tenz have never proven themselves on a stage vs good teams.
2019-06-14 02:07
#119
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Chelo is bad on LAN too - he also hasn't done anything of relevance in a big event since the ESL Pro League Finals S6 back in December 2017 C9 have a history of developing young NA talents, and if they add Daps as a coach they could easily build up these young guns into solid role players and talents - Daps has built his whole career on this, after all
2019-06-14 02:12
don't know about his english, but since his time off INTZ because of his personal issues he has been doing pretty bad, probably even the worst player on the team right now, even tho i like him
2019-06-14 01:59
Does C9 owners and coaches really care about the future of the team? ---------------- With c9 not wanting to spend much as we have seen already and with the current available players and everything, This is the lineup which I feel will benefit c9 the most : Daps(Igl) Autimatic(Lurker role) Flusha/Kio(Rifler) Wardell(Awper) TenZ(Rifler Entry) Daps- g0lden is a very good igl, but c9 is his first team Igl in English and it has been 4 months now and doesn't seem to be working with this roster. Daps has recently been released from NRG and he has proven that he can make shit teams into very good teams. He can help c9 rise again by being the IGL. Autimatic- Tim can be used to his max potential being the star player that he is if he goes back to Lurker role. He needs to be able to move around the map freely rather than being stuck with an awp holding angles. Flusha- Already played with c9 before and Autimatic as well. Can do well in any role he plays and is a cs legend, any team would love to have him. If he decides to return back, there is no option better than him. And Kio is the next best option after flusha. Wardell - Recently a free agent, but still in contract with ghost gaming, , Wardell is a very good awper and can get agressive too when needed. He is young and motivated and a team like c9 can help him develop even further. This has to be done it will also free Autimatic of the burden of awping and holding angles rather than moving around freely in the map as he is the star player of c9. TenZ- A very good young rising star. Has good overall ratings in all the games he plays and takes risks sometimes which other players are afraid of and it pays off mostly. He can do very well with a team like c9 if given a chance.
2019-06-14 00:11
#16
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Personally, I'd have Golden over Daps because of his chemistry with Flusha and Autimatic and also due to his better in-game technicals. Daps as a coach would be solid though kioShiMa left as he didn't like the team environment and will be unlikely to join again. Flusha is better as a lurker than a rifler imo, but he also won't join back Tim isn't burdened with AWPing, he likes AWPing and wants to continue the role as he's reinvented himself as a solid AWPer. Wardell would be great, but Tim AWPing isn't a bad thing at all. Completely agree with TenZ though.
2019-06-14 00:17
Great fix. It’s either this or -golden +daps or disband
2019-06-14 00:10
#14
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 00:13
#18
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Israel soprendo 
Autimatic Skadoodle Shroud SeanGares n0thing
2019-06-14 00:18
#21
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I wish
2019-06-14 00:21
#24
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Israel soprendo 
They're free agents, so why not?
2019-06-14 00:22
#28
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Well 2 of them have retired and the other two are retiring (Or at least have shown little sign of returning) Pure nostalgia would be nice though
2019-06-14 00:23
Yea that would definitely be bad LMAO
2019-06-14 00:22
#25
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Nostalgia though
2019-06-14 00:22
#27
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Israel soprendo 
They'd beat current c9
2019-06-14 00:23
#30
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
This is true
2019-06-14 00:24
Prob not... But I wish they would :(
2019-06-14 00:27
#101
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Lithuania SiK_ 
they fucking would. OldGuysClub have qualified to minor playoffs, if they hadnt forfeited in thw end.
2019-06-14 01:40
stewie2k nitro elige Twistzz naf ez top 1 if they pick them up
2019-06-14 00:18
#22
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
This is true
2019-06-14 00:21
i mean anything is a fix for them at this point
2019-06-14 00:23
#31
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I mean, you're not wrong
2019-06-14 00:24
#32
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United States _ATaXiA_ 
-Rush -Golden +Gasoline +Matches
2019-06-14 00:25
#35
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
-auti instead of RUSH Gotta save the great players before disposing of the trash
2019-06-14 00:28
NA fix: Autimatic 2nd Awp Daps igl Wrath entry (way better than floppy imo) Tenz Awp (or support if auti awps full time) Marke
2019-06-14 00:39
#43
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
-Marke +Wardell (Solid Main AWPer with decent rifles too) Wrath is decent, but I much prefer TenZ Steel will never be the IGL because he's banned from Majors
2019-06-14 00:31
Forgot he was banned :( Daps instead then. Koosta is bad. Tenz was very good at awping on ATK so I equate him to be Wardell's skill. With that being said Imo Marke is better at rifling than Wardell. And as you said in a previous post daps is great at developing talent so it would be great for both Tenz and wraith. Also Wrath entry > Wardell entry.
2019-06-14 00:58
#82
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Wardell is the best primary AWPer available to C9 if they don't want to keep Tim on the big green gun. TenZ could be moulded into a solid support by Golden and Daps (Daps coaching, with Valens as an analyst) Either Wrath or Floppy would be a solid entry, though I'd rather Floppy in the team
2019-06-14 01:08
#38
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United Kingdom Button 
Cloud9 is fucked. Everyone knows that if you go there you'll earn ridiculous wages, that's all people go there for. They need to do what Complexity has done and build from the ground up with up and coming players, people who're dedicated to the game and improving. The more they go out and buy players who are in contracts and demand high wages the faster their org will collapse.
2019-06-14 00:29
#45
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Agreed, but keeping Autimatic and Golden is key to this happening imo
2019-06-14 00:33
#49
ALEX | 
United Kingdom Button 
I honestly have no idea... but what they've been doing these last couple years clearly hasn't been working which is sad. C9 is a great org and Jack clearly loves esports so I wish them the best.
2019-06-14 00:35
#57
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Auti loves C9 and is so loyal to them, and Golden is a solid and hungry IGL +1 about what you said about C9 though
2019-06-14 00:39
#39
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Germany Ligma_Balls 
Rebuild around Tim at this point. Autimatic Wardell TenZ Daps Steel (BR) Offers a good mix of young talent and experienced players. Roles fit nicely too.
2019-06-14 00:29
#50
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Why have 2 IGLs? Replace Daps and Steel with Floppy and Golden and this is solid Daps coaching is great for this team too
2019-06-14 00:35
#71
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Germany Ligma_Balls 
Steel is not igl of this squad. Just a support player because tim, tenz and wardell is plenty of fire power. Also wardell is already star awp player so floppy is not needed
2019-06-14 00:53
#77
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Tim, TenZ, and Wardell is a lot of firepower, but TenZ could be moulded into a star support player like Krimz was back in the day (And is today really). Floppy isn't an AWPer btw, he's a rifler.
2019-06-14 01:02
#102
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Germany Ligma_Balls 
He is an awper, a very good one. Feel free to show me source that he isn't.
2019-06-14 01:45
#104
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
hltv.org/stats/players/weapon/12713/flop.. 3 AWP kills in the last month, compared to his 187 AK-47 kills, with the AWP being his 14th best weapon. hltv.org/stats/players/weapon/12713/flop.. 13 AWP kills in the last 3 months compared to his 584 AK-47 kills, with the AWP being his 14th best weapon. hltv.org/stats/players/weapon/12713/flop.. 137 AWP kills in his career, compared to his 2348 AK-47 kills, with the AWP being his 10th best weapon.
2019-06-14 01:49
#40
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United Kingdom Brehnfred 
i like this especially the Tenz pickup...would be huge for him and C9
2019-06-14 00:30
#51
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 00:36
Autimatic: 2nd awp Daps: IGL Tenz: Rifler Rush: Entry Wardell: AWP
2019-06-14 00:30
#52
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Floppy > RUSH C9 have got to be brutal and cut the deadweight from the team to succeed Also, Golden > Daps imo (Daps coaching would be fire though)
2019-06-14 00:37
Autimatic Wardell daps moose vanity
2019-06-14 00:32
#54
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Floppy > Vanity TenZ > Moose (Though Moose would still be a great pickup) Golden > Daps (But Daps coaching would be great)
2019-06-14 00:38
true but TenZ also likes picking up the AWP, at least he's doing that on Lazarus, so i picked moose over him. floppy is good but imo vanity can do better under daps. I picked golden over daps because daps is known for taking young talents and making them a solid top 10 team. No coaching replacement required Valens is a pretty good coach
2019-06-14 00:52
#75
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
He could pick it up from time to time, but he's still really young and could be moulded into a more supportive role. Maybe, but Floppy is much better than Vanity right now so I can imagine him being better under Golden I completely agree with your reasoning for picking Daps over Golden, but Daps coaching would have the same effect on the team but with Golden in game (He's a much better player and a great leader). Valens is a great coach, but he wants to be an analyst instead so it works all round really
2019-06-14 00:59
#135
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
imagine thinking fpl pugger is better than a proven player having great ratings against tier and tier 2 teams OMEGALUL
2019-06-14 12:25
#138
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I’ve watched them both play and TenZ has wayyyy more potential
2019-06-14 12:27
#153
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
yes just like s0m, roca, android, sick, zellsis, drone, dapr and other puggers made it with their insane potential
2019-06-14 12:42
#157
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
You’re showing me a load of players who are either in T2 teams or have no team - I really don’t get what point you’re making TenZ shows clear teamplay and an understanding of the professional game, much more than most of these puggers - he’s got a few extra clicks over these guys
2019-06-14 12:45
#163
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
im talking about players who will be tier 1 players not another tier 2 na players and fpl heroes, tenz has a great potential but he has to prove it on decent lans and against tier 1-2 teams like twistzz, stewie2k, naf, elige, autimatic, brehze, ethan etc all did. he shouldnt just get handed a contract with serious org cause he did a 4k in fpl or aced some mdl team being on bottom part of the table, moose puts up numbers for year already against tier 1 and tier 2 teams playing for a team like eunited who changes players every other week, c9 right now needs stability, they shouldnt be a breeding ground for young puggers.
2019-06-14 12:55
Golden Jamppi suNny autimatic cajunb valens and we good
2019-06-14 00:34
#56
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
C9 going EU isn't something that I think would be good for them, especially with the strength of the teams in the minors
2019-06-14 00:39
autimatic obo wardell daps/golden cajunb valens
2019-06-14 00:42
#65
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1 oBo just joined coL so I'm sure he wouldn't join C9 - adding Floppy would be more realistic and would still have a lot of potential +1 Golden over Daps imo Remove Cajunb for TenZ Valens should be an analyst like he wanted, and have Daps as a coach
2019-06-14 00:44
true about obo but i lowkey think he'd join C9 over coL but floppy would be a really good option too.
2019-06-14 00:46
#69
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
coL are a much better org than C9 and much more stable too - if this C9 roster was presented to him I think he'd consider it, but I can see him being loyal to the team which gave him his first chance at the pro level
2019-06-14 00:48
c9 is much bigger and probably will pay him more but complexity atleast don't seem to be running their cs team into the ground
2019-06-14 01:05
#83
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
coL are the biggest org in eSports after their recent investment and could well pay him more if the results came in
2019-06-14 01:09
Do you mean US army partnership or their recent facility investment? Either of them still make them smaller than Cloud9 in the Esports space although they are growing. C9 was worth 310 million at the start of 2018 and was the most valuable esports in organisation in 2018 and maybe 2019. Also c9 are building a training facility, they recently raised 50 million in series B funding for it and with their own investments would make it larger than col's new training facility. They also have a partnership with US air force making them the first American team to have that partnership with CoL being the second. Overall, CoL won't be larger/pay better than c9 but col is heading towards becoming one of the three biggest NA orgs in esports with their sports backing.
2019-06-14 01:19
#96
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
coL being a part of the $5.4 Billion Dallas Cowboys makes them the biggest eSports org in the world. mcvuk.com/complexity-gaming-gets-investm.. sportspromedia.com/news/esports-cowboys-..
2019-06-14 01:31
That makes them a subsidiary of Billion Dallas Cowboys. When considering value of subsidiaries you don't value the consolidated account, you value each subsidiary separately otherwise would you pay 5.4 billion to acquire Complexity? WHat about Earl Carlo and Alisha USamov investing 100 million into Virtus.Pro also majority sharehold and they're worth 15.1 billion. Does that make VP the richest org? Nope they were still ranked lower in value as that is part of a portfolio, not the organisation itself. Cloud 9 by itself is worth 300million market value. Complexity is not. Also what about Jlo and Shaq investing in NRG? Not majority sharehold but they are worth billions too doesn't mean that makes NRG worth billions as well. NRG would be worth billions if for example they had a majority stakehold in Shaquille and Jlo, not the other way around. Dallas Cowboys also have dozens of investments besides their sports and esports investments which they need to split their capital around. Tldr: c9 is far bigger than CoL still esports.inquirer.net/11773/russian-inves..
2019-06-14 06:18
Clown9
2019-06-14 00:43
#66
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 00:44
daps kioshima autimatic RUSH cajunb
2019-06-14 00:44
#67
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
C9 need to remove their deadweight, which means cutting Cajunb, Vice, and RUSH Daps leading is decent, but I'd rather him be the coach and keep Golden leading kioShiMa should play for another team imo, C9 need a young NA roster with upcoming and hungry talented players and build from the ground up
2019-06-14 00:46
Daps(IGL) Autimatic(Rifle) TenZ(Entry) Wardell(Awp) Cajunb(support) This has the potential to be a new NRG with daps buulding a team with the core of autimatic,Tenz and Wardell. Cajun can add some experiance at a support role but they could keep rush but I believe cajunb is the better fragger and they just signed him
2019-06-14 00:55
+1 this better happen or cajunb for rush if autimatic and c9 won't part with rush
2019-06-14 01:02
I like this pretty good, with Rush in mind if wardell is ridic to get or tenz isnt quite there support structure wise. I dont know how vocal rush is, but I think he is a CS asset. I was really hoping c9 snatched up stan to put back with rush, that is something nrg should keep on the radar, assuming no bad blood. I think steel and brax could be unbanned, with a sworn statement that match fixing and betting on themselves again is intent to defraud. But betting on yourself in officials is a fucking huge deal though, so maybe it is pete rose for them. But whoever is not grabbed here from rush, daps, cajun should link up with steel.
2019-06-14 01:04
#85
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Ex-iBP will never be unbanned
2019-06-14 01:12
i know, it was that dumb of a thing to do, especially as NA
2019-06-14 01:12
#87
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 01:13
#79
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Cajunb should be removed and C9 should remove all of their dead weight, with Golden and Auti being the only players they keep Let Golden mould TenZ into a solid star support, have Floppy as a solid entry, Wardell AWPing and Auti lurking all under Daps' coaching. Valens could go back to being an analyst again
2019-06-14 01:04
wtf is this, ive actually seen plenty of real posts and fixes, good arguing and thoughts. Normally when I enter threads like this its like "LOL YOU FUCKING SUcK" and the other nerd answers "so? I still killed your family and ate your dog" "yes but im with your dogs father right now and raping your mother" "im not even black" tldr; im a bit drunk but honest, thx mens))))
2019-06-14 00:55
disbanding would be like a mercy kill
2019-06-14 01:05
#84
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
This is true
2019-06-14 01:10
autimatic rush shroud nothing seangares
2019-06-14 01:13
#89
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Ahh the nostalgia
2019-06-14 01:15
rush daps tenz auti sick daps is a decent igl when it comes to adapting inexperienced players to big lans. i can see tenz and sick being really good vs tier 1 teams if they develop under the right igl and have the opportunities to attend lan. rush played his best when daps was igling for optic, so I think it's worth giving him another shot.
2019-06-14 01:19
#97
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Rush NEEDS to go, and sick isn't good enough either. Daps should be a part of this redevelopment, but as the coach instead of the IGL. Valens will go back to being an analyst for C9. Bringing in TenZ is a great idea, especially if they mould him into the support role. Floppy and Wardell should be their main targets, with players such as Wrath and Koosta as secondaries.
2019-06-14 01:34
sick is good enough imo. he hasn't been on a stable team for ages. I think he still got a huge amount of potential if hes put under enough pressure.
2019-06-14 02:11
#121
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
The other players I've suggested are much better imo though, or at least have more potential to be better in the future. Sick has been on coL for about 2 months now and has been distinctly below average his entire time, I'd give him another months to start showing some promise otherwise I'd be starting to worry if I was the coL CEO. I mean, in oBo's first 6 games he averaged a 1.18 - sick is currently averaging a 0.96
2019-06-14 02:17
sick performed on par or better than twistzz on the old tsm lineup. they were both touted as NA's biggest talents at the time. twistzz got better opportunities tho and sick sort of went off the radar
2019-06-14 03:46
#131
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
That was like 2/3 years ago though dude
2019-06-14 12:20
- Current Roster + Optic Roster Since Optic can no longer compete in majors after being bought by immortals
2019-06-14 01:27
#98
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Not an awful idea actually - the EU minor would be very tough though
2019-06-14 01:34
#99
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Philippines Eclipsa 
I don't know at this point really, Just bring back flusha and kio and we have potential. At this point(as a Cloud9 main fan) That's the best they can do :( No Cloud9 stickers this major.
2019-06-14 01:34
#100
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
They should build an NA team and commit to turning the NA talents in ESEA into star players. Players such as TenZ, Floppy, Wrath, etc have unreal potential working with GOlden as their IGL and Daps as their coach, with Valens as a very capable analyst too helping to make sure they get the absolute best out of them
2019-06-14 01:36
Autimatic Daps Wardell Fugly Koosta Wouldn’t be amazing but they could rebuild as a reliable top 20 team with this and then get better players when they become available. They need to ditch the hybrid experiment and go full NA imo. Tim can drop the AWP in this team to always play rifle, and he’s the obvious star.
2019-06-14 01:53
#110
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Personally, I'd keep Golden and have Daps coaching (Valens as the analyst again) TenZ over Fugly would be amazing, especially if Golden, Daps, and Valens could work together to mould him into the support role. Koosta is a great pick too, though if they can grab Floppy or Wrath it'd be better imo
2019-06-14 01:54
I don’t follow the NA scene in depth, and have been watching less CS in general recently, so haven’t heard of a couple of the players you mentioned; that’s why my team is a bit “boring” on paper and doesn’t have any young talents in it. I agree Golden is a better IGL and fragger (marginally) than daps but just feel like he’s trying to impose an EU philosophy on NA players and it might never truly work, even if it would have the potential to be better in the long run.
2019-06-14 15:00
#125
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Netherlands Liquid_Acid 
daps (igl + rifle) TenZ/vice/RUSH/Nifty/s0m/FugLy/freakazoid/floppy/Hiko (rifle + support) Wardell (awp) autimatic (rifle + 2nd awp) koosta/BnTeT/ANDROID (rifle + entry + lurk + i guess 3rd awp)
2019-06-14 02:25
#132
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Personally, I’d have Golden over Daps and have Daps coaching C9 need to completely focus on youth development, so having TenZ and Floppy as well as Wardell is perfect for them
2019-06-14 12:23
Autimatic - Rifler/Secondary Awper Koosta - Awper MSL - IGL TenZ - Entry Fragger Fugly - Support
2019-06-14 06:23
#133
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Fugly isn’t the sort of player I can see helping a revival - I’d have TenZ in his role personally, with Floppy playing as the team’s entry MSL leading is weird, but good - I like it. I’d rather FaZe grab him though. Wardell AWP > Koosta AWP
2019-06-14 12:24
yea i dont know why i didn't put wardell instead of koosta but who can replace fugly?? n0thing mb?
2019-06-14 14:54
autimatic Wardell TenZ oBo daps
2019-06-14 06:25
#134
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Solid team actually, but oBo is going nowhere. I’d have Golden over Daps though, and have Daps coaching. Floppy over oBo because he’s way more likely to join
2019-06-14 12:25
Sucks that oBo went to coL. Wanted him on C9 for a while now. I'd pick daps over golden because I think daps is better at developing young talent than golden. And yeah, floppy would definitely be another option if oBo is too expensive.
2019-06-15 05:59
#198
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Agreed on Daps being better at developing young talent, which is why I wanted him working closely with the team - Daps coaching would be perfect in that respect as he can develop the talent while theres a more capable fragger leading the team in game
2019-06-16 02:17
I personally think valens is too valuable as a coach to let go. C9 never wins the major without everything he did and still does for the team (analytics, strats, practice, etc.).
2019-06-16 04:19
#207
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Valens focussing on being an analyst and still working closely with the team and Daps would be amazing for them tbh
2019-06-16 06:09
#130
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United States iCanYo 
autimatic RUSH daps TenZ koosta honestly the best choices in my opinion
2019-06-14 06:34
#136
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
RUSH needs to go, he’s dead weight - replace him with Floppy or Wrath and we’re good Daps should go back to coaching and help Golden develop this young talent Koosta is good, but if you want him to AWP I’d suggest Wardell over him instead
2019-06-14 12:26
#268
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United States iCanYo 
DAMN I WAS SO CLOSE
2019-07-03 20:27
#137
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
daps autimatic rush wardell moose
2019-06-14 12:26
#140
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Rush NEEDS to go, and personally I’d rather have Daps coaching and Golden leading Replace Rush with Floppy or TenZ and we’re good
2019-06-14 12:28
#141
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Portugal KuaZar 
auti golden sunny kio flusha dont know why both kio and flusha left the boat, a team around them and auti, and adding sunny, would be dope af
2019-06-14 12:29
#143
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
kio left because he didn’t like the team environment or Golden’s leadership, flusha left because he needed a break from the competitive scene, and suNny turned them down with this exact lineup before as he saw the team as ‘Too unstable’ Also, going EU would be bad for C9 given how strong the EU minors are
2019-06-14 12:36
autimatic WARDELL daps SMOOYA neptune (or any young talent to get some HS)
2019-06-14 12:29
#144
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Having two AWPers is silly - Smooya is going back to BIG so Wardell is a decent pick Golden over Daps, but with Daps coaching You probably picked the worst talent with Neptune - Floppy, TenZ, Wrath, Moose, Koosta should all be considered to replace him and Smooya in this libeup
2019-06-14 12:38
#145
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
Auti (Support) CajunB (Rifler) Golden or MSL (IGL) Smooya (Awp) K0nfig (Entry)
2019-06-14 12:38
#147
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Making C9 an eu majority team is bad for them - just look at the minors Golden or MSL is a good pick, especially with Daps coaching K0nfig and Cajunb should be replaced by two of Floppy, TenZ, Wrath, Moose, Koosta Smooya is going back to BIG, so replace him with Wardell
2019-06-14 12:40
I think it could work.
2019-06-14 12:40
#160
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-14 12:47
Floppy (entry) Floppy (support) Floppy (awper) Floppy (lurker) Floppy (all-around) Coach Floppy
2019-06-14 12:43
#158
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Might br an issue with that team
2019-06-14 12:46
auti tenz daps wardwell + some decent NA rifler or entry frager
2019-06-14 12:44
#159
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
If floppy is your entry them this team is insane - personally I’d have Golden keep leading this team though, with Daps playing a big part in the development of these players as the coach, working with Valens as he becomes an analyst.
2019-06-14 12:47
#161
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Turkey sonbafrali 
-cajunb +Calyx -golden +tarik
2019-06-14 12:49
#165
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Lol seriously? Calyx is meh, Tarik is on a better team and won’t return
2019-06-14 12:58
#173
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Turkey sonbafrali 
I always fix teams with turkish players. this is my style mennn)
2019-06-14 13:40
auti(lurker) WARDELL(awper) flusha(entry) daps(IGL) or even steel if daps receives better offers/has a high buyout HObbit(support) or cajunb(secondary awper) Also , since when cajunb has given the awp role to auti?
2019-06-14 12:52
#166
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Auti and Wardell are solid choices, but they should build with youth rather than experience and play thr long game, so flusha shouldn’t join - floppy would be a better choice. Daps leading is good, but I’d rather him coach and have Golden leading TenZ should be the support, not hobbit Also, Cajun was never the primary AWP in C9, its been Auti since Ska left
2019-06-14 13:02
#164
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North America Snaxer 
Golden (IGL/ Second Entry) Autimatic (Lurker/Secondary AWP) Wardell (AWPer) Neptune(Support) Cromen(Entry)
2019-06-14 12:52
#167
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Love the first three players, but Neptune isn’t good enough and Cromen is just a weird pick TenZ over Neptune, Floppy over Cromen, Daps to coach
2019-06-14 13:03
#168
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North America Snaxer 
thats racist
2019-06-14 13:04
#169
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Uwot
2019-06-14 13:10
#172
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North America Snaxer 
pepega
2019-06-14 13:31
#170
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Portugal NACKZ 
Smooya Autimatic K1o Sunny Flusha
2019-06-14 13:12
A really nice line-up.
2019-06-14 14:56
#186
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Going EU won’t work out for C9 in the long run - they need to prioritise NA young talent over EU experience. Smooya is rejoining BIG, kio didn’t like it in C9, and Flusha isn’t likely to return at all at this rate
2019-06-16 02:03
#171
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CIS moruk 
Golden Auti Wardell Sunny vice/rush (just for saving 3 NA players to play quals in America)
2019-06-14 13:15
#187
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I like the Wardell addition, but there are better NA players than Vice and Rush, such as TenZ or Floppy Also, suNny won’t be joining C9
2019-06-16 02:05
#174
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
-vice or golden +nifty
2019-06-14 13:44
#188
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Absolutely not
2019-06-16 02:05
-vice -cajun -golden +wardell +daps +fugly
2019-06-14 14:21
#189
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Bringing in Wardell is a good pick, and replacing Golden with Daps isn’t an awful idea (Though I’d rather Daps coach) Fugly isn’t an inspiring pick here though
2019-06-16 02:09
c9 disband new team with:flusha golden smooya sunny kioshima already top10 when the team is settled
2019-06-15 06:16
#190
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
EU C9 is not the right direction for them to go in
2019-06-16 02:10
#184
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Vietnam comergod1 
Auti Ska Stew RUSH Tarik
2019-06-15 06:21
#191
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Such memories
2019-06-16 02:10
Tim Daps SicK oBo Koosta
2019-06-15 06:36
#193
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
SicK isn’t good enough, and oBo won’t leave coL. Koosta is a solid pick, but I’d sooner have Daps coach than lead
2019-06-16 02:13
#192
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Israel fvlion123 
disband.
2019-06-16 02:11
#194
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Israel fvlion123 
fr tho -everyone except tim +daps +smooya +sunny +tenz
2019-06-16 02:13
#196
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Smoo is rejoining BIG, suNny turned C9 down, and Daps should coach rather than lead imo Agree with TenZ 100% though
2019-06-16 02:15
#197
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Israel fvlion123 
if i was smooya idk if i would rejoin BIG i dont think he can save them from their terrible form atm actually losing 2-0 to VP in 2019 lmao
2019-06-16 02:16
#199
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Well their shit form only started once he stepped down from the roster - him replacing Gob b would be the start of an insanely good BIG team
2019-06-16 02:19
#201
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Israel fvlion123 
who would igl tho
2019-06-16 02:21
#202
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
tabseN - he’s been calling in a few games recently and Gob has been working closely with him so that he can carry the torch when he retires
2019-06-16 02:22
#203
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Israel fvlion123 
oh bet well mby theres hope for big but gotta wait and see
2019-06-16 02:23
#204
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-16 02:23
#195
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Better than paying their current squad
2019-06-16 02:14
#200
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Canada Abolition 
sign the petition mens chng.it/L2djhHGX
2019-06-16 02:21
#205
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Brazil goatzera 
Autimatic RUSH daps Nifty TenZ/koosta
2019-06-16 02:44
#210
Jesus | 
Iran muslims 
TenZ so underrated, rather keep TenZ. koosta is insane but always make stupid decisions, not worth it.
2019-06-16 06:46
#214
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Rush needs to go, and Nifty isn’t good enough - TenZ and Daps are good picks though, but I’d rather Daps work as a coach with Golden leading and Valens taking on an analyst position in the roster. Bringing in Wardell in the place of Nifty would be solid, as would Floppy replacing RUSH
2019-06-16 07:06
#253
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Brazil goatzera 
Nice too
2019-06-18 00:23
#208
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Ukraine tomzey 
stopped reading at golden
2019-06-16 06:13
#211
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United States Frotha 
TenZ Floppy Golden/daps Wardell Autimatic This roster has so much potential
2019-06-16 07:00
#215
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1 Couldn’t agree more actually
2019-06-16 07:07
autimatic - rifle RUSH - rifle Golden - igl Wardell - awp koosta - rifle
2019-06-16 07:02
#216
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Rush needs to go, and players such as Floppy and TenZ could easily take over his spot I rate the rest of the lineup though
2019-06-16 07:08
I would be prepared to give him more of a chance, he's only had a stable roster for 2 months. I would give him 4 months with a steady roster and if hes still under performing id let him go.
2019-06-16 07:15
#219
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Young talents such as Floppy, TenZ, or even Wrath have more potential than Rush will ever have
2019-06-16 07:40
Imo they need to be broken in. Theres a big difference between playing T1 and playing T2/T3 NA. Also they may have to play T1 and not get the spots they want, where as when you are a star in T2/T3 NA scenes I can imagine teams will be more willing to play around you and be more accommodating. RUSH is used to tournament structure of traveling and playing on big stages where I dont know about TenZ. He seems to be playing well against T3 NA teams though. Like I said Id be willing to give a player like RUSH a bit more of a chance.
2019-06-16 07:50
#223
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Floppy has a fair bit of experience, but TenZ is really new to it all - these players will need time to adapt to the top level of CS and to be moulded into their roles by Golden, Daps, and Valens. This team of coaches and leaders is absolutely solid though - they will do great at helping these young stars make the step up
2019-06-16 08:53
Stewie2k Autimatic RUSH Skadoodle tarik
2019-06-16 07:03
hello, i am here from the future to tell you that this does not happen, thank you!
2019-06-16 07:11
Moe Shroud Hiko Seangares N0thing
2019-06-16 08:06
#222
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
ew
2019-06-16 08:50
Disband this team is sooo bad
2019-06-16 08:54
#226
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
+1
2019-06-16 08:55
#225
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Cambodia afk47 
Daps Dapr Autimatic JDM64 Koosta
2019-06-16 08:54
#227
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
JDM omegalul
2019-06-16 08:55
#228
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Cambodia afk47 
He is free agent LUL and C9 prob going to pick him up bcuz they so unpredictable when they sign new players
2019-06-16 08:56
#231
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
C9 do grab some suspect players, thats for sure Tim should stay on the AWP though, he’s the best NA AWPer (Though Wardell could be under the right system)
2019-06-16 09:22
#239
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Cambodia afk47 
I’m surprised no one thought of dapr
2019-06-16 18:03
#246
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
A few people did, I just don’t rate him that highly personally Good for a T3 team that could push for T2 though
2019-06-17 00:01
#229
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Singapore Defqon_1 
daps - IGL & Support TenZ - Entry Fragger autimatic - Refragger koosta - AWPer Laski - Lurker (High chance of being a good pickup)
2019-06-16 09:04
#233
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I’d rather Wardell AWP instead of Koosta and have Daps coach with Golden leading and Valens as an analyst Also, Floppy/Moose/Koosta/Wrath > Laski
2019-06-16 09:25
#236
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Singapore Defqon_1 
Wardell rejected Cloud9's offer in the past, I doubt he will be willing to join C9 As for Laski, I know there are better players out there, I just think he has lot of potential as a player. And also he doesnt give me the feeling that he will be an onliner
2019-06-16 11:38
#241
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Well his team just disbanded, so he might reconsider should the option arise While I agree, his peak isn’t as high as the others in the list
2019-06-16 23:55
don't suggest bot daps pls
2019-06-16 09:09
#232
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Daps as the coach and Valens as the analyst
2019-06-16 09:23
Autimatic Kio/Koosta Wardel Tenz Daps
2019-06-16 09:39
#242
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
TenZ, Auti, and Wardell are great picks Personally I’d have Koosta over kioShiMa, but floppy over both of them Golden leading would be better, but with Daps coaching - great leadership and insane youth development
2019-06-16 23:56
#235
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Israel FRIsaac 
Nifty autimatic oBo golden RUSH
2019-06-16 11:25
#243
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
oBo will stay where he is, Nifty isn't good enough, and RUSH needs to be dropped Golden and Auti are great picks though, especially if Daps coaches Players such as Wardell, Floppy, Koosta, TenZ, and Wrath should be considered tok
2019-06-16 23:58
Golden/Daps Flusha Autimatic Wardell/Kooper Smooya. Pretty straight forward tbh. Assuming Flusha is coming back and Smooya hasn't already gone to another team..
2019-06-16 11:51
#244
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Smoo is rejoining BIG and Flusha isn’t rejoining Replace Flusha with TenZ and replace Smooya with Floppy and this team is solid Daps coaching with Golden leading is ace btw
2019-06-16 23:59
autimatic - Lurker TenZ - Entry fragger, Support Wardell - AWP suNny - Entry fragger MODDII - IGL
2019-06-16 12:02
#245
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Golden > Daps >>> Moddii Love Wardell and TenZ though suNny would be solid, but he won’t join - having Floppy is their best bet imo
2019-06-17 00:00
#240
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Russia my_id_777777 
disband is last fix
2019-06-16 18:05
Sunny Kio Auti Daps Flusha EZWIN
2019-06-17 00:01
#249
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
EU C9 is a horrible idea going forward - also, Daps is best working with you g talent rather than veterans of the game
2019-06-17 00:02
this team needs a hard reset kick everyone other than auti
2019-06-17 00:02
#250
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
I’d still keep Golden and have Daps coach, but if it doesn’t work out have Daps replace him in the active lineup with Valens going back to coaching (As opposed to being an analyst)
2019-06-17 00:03
ahh yeah golden is fine too i guess and valens i like but in terms of the players most of them need to go it just is obviously not working
2019-06-17 00:04
#252
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Oh absolutely - Cajun, Vice, and RUSH are all dead weight for C9
2019-06-17 00:05
#255
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Finland siloquez 
Download ventrilo.exe
2019-06-18 00:46
Autimatic TenZ Rush/Floppy Golden/Daps(depending on if Golden can bring them together as a team) Wardell/Moose(in the case of moose, keep Auti on the awp) I think if C9 were to go the NA route this would be the roster to do it with. Golden's strats at the minor were so underwhelming and predictable it was sad to watch. I wouldn't even mind them keeping Cajun over Rush or signing Floppy as I think Cajun still has a lot left to give that people don't give him credit for. In the Wardell/moose scenario I would almost like to see them pick up moose more because Auti's awp is equal to if not better than Wardell's awp. Also would be cool to see a split US/CAN flag
2019-06-18 01:36
#259
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Absolutely love your team - Golden is decent, Moose or Wardell both bring some excellency to the team in different ways, TenZ is an upcoming talent and Floppy has some insane potential too.
2019-06-18 11:48
#260
KQLY | 
Europe xp3RT! 
tarik autimatic stewie2k rush ska
2019-06-18 11:50
#261
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
It was funny the first time, still kinda found a bit if humour the second or third time, but posting this roster is so unoriginal and boring so can you don’t
2019-06-18 11:58
#262
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France DirtyPerez 
Auti Golden/steel cajunb/TenZ jdm/Wardell/mertz koosta
2019-06-18 12:00
#263
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Auti is a staple Golden is decent - Steel is a horrible choice Cajunb needs to go - TenZ is a solid choice Jdm is shit - Wardell is amazing - Mertz is a decent pick Koosta is a solid call
2019-06-18 12:09
#264
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France DirtyPerez 
as an indivvidual talent jdm is still good. The fact that he was in a shit team didn't help imo. But the one i like the most in the possible cobinaisons would be : Auti Golden Cajunb Koosta mertz
2019-06-18 12:39
#265
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Maybe shit is harsh, but he’s not good enough for C9 regardless; EU C9 is not a good idea - C9’s best team would be: Autimatic (Lurker OR AWPer) TenZ (Support) Golden/[Daps] (IGL) Floppy (Rifler) Wardell/Mertz (AWP) OR Koosta/[suNny] (Rifler)
2019-06-18 12:51
autimatic daps Freakazoid Wardell TenZ
2019-06-18 12:58
#267
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
Personally, I don’t think that Freak is up to scratch anymore I’d take Floppy over Wardell and try and bring in someone obscure from another nation, basically allowing Daps to find the next Cerq or something
2019-06-18 13:00
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