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India Lackadaisical 
Are we seriously gonna ignore whatever it is that is going on in HK? China basically is NK2.0 but we never see any other nation intruding in its affairs. Why? Where's the fucking USA which goes around policing the world?
2019-06-15 13:04
#1
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Denmark Xipingu 
Hmm?
2019-06-15 13:04
so the media hasn't even brought the faintest light on this topic in your country?
2019-06-15 13:05
#7
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Denmark Xipingu 
Only the supposed Huawei spionage, but enlighten me pls
2019-06-15 13:06
#16
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Basically an extradition treaty is being put in place between HK and mainland China. That's a problem because there are thousands of people who flee to HK to avoid unfair trials that will ruin their life (Chinese courts have a 99.9% conviction rate). Plus it's easy for Chinese authorities to bring up minor crimes from years ago (Jaywalking etc.) to bring political opponents back into China then make them 'disappear' for a while. The Chinese have been doing this for years illegally (Chinese authorities kidnapped some book store owners in 2015 to put them on trial for something that is illegal in China but NOT illegal in HK en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causeway_Bay_Books..) but now it's going to be legal.
2019-06-15 13:17
Please know your facts, China has openly stated that extradition will only happen to those that have a prison sentence of a minimum of seven years and it also does not cover political charges. So you can't get extradited for minor crimes. This law is not just about China as well, it is to mainly stop criminals with heavy charges like murder from getting away, like the one where a man from HongKong went to Taiwan to butcher his wife and escaped back into hongkong without facing prison sentence because there's no extradition laws.
2019-06-15 18:06
#117
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Please know your facts, political opponents will be extradited, only Prima facie evidence is required (evidence taken at face value that can be refuted), you think Chinese courts wont find something that gives only a 7 year sentence? Corruption can be used as an excuse, bribery is minimum 10 years, these are all excuses China can and will use. Chinese courts have a 99.9% conviction rate, regardless of their charges, whether they did it or not too. The extradition treaty is needed to stop outliers that abuse the lack of a treaty, I agree, but it needs to be done in a much different way.
2019-06-15 18:19
What do you mean Chinese courts? The HongKong courts are the ones that will make the judgement, and HongKong lawyers are almost always against China. In the past they have taken many “rebel’s” cases for free
2019-06-16 04:09
#170
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Do you have any idea how extradtions work? The country takes you back to their own land to trial you in their courts. You seem very misinformed or just disingenuous with your arguments
2019-06-16 19:35
#173
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China lxxl 
What do you mean Chinese courts? The HongKong courts are the ones that will make the judgement, and HongKong lawyers are almost always against China. In the past they have taken many “rebel’s” cases for free
2019-06-16 22:11
#178
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Reply needs to have actual content.
2019-06-16 22:16
#179
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
#5
2019-06-16 22:16
#183
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United Kingdom shmilx 
veri nice mens))))
2019-06-16 22:21
They are incapable of making any sane argument as much as they are incapable of opening their eyes to see and realize what the actual fuck is going around them. Don't bother with them. Redundancy is a classic Chinese move. That's all they have been doing, even with their progeny.
2019-06-16 22:29
#190
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
But the thingy
2019-06-16 22:57
#202
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United Kingdom shmilx 
I’m pretty sure he was memeing don’t go balls first into a situation dude :)
2019-06-17 04:08
Actually, this is the exact reason they are doing this. Because Hong Kong courts always turned down extradition orders from Chinese courts. Now they can bypass Hong Kong courts and take who they want. They were already extrajudicially kidnapping native Hong Kong citizens who were "agitators" against Chinese rule, but by doing this, they can achieve it "legally".
2019-06-17 21:51
#138
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Denmark Twick_ 
Do you you really think Chinese is going to follow these rules? They suddenly don’t follow international rules, so why can’t they bend their own too?
2019-06-16 09:20
#118
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Denmark Xipingu 
I see. Sounds completely unreasonable, so one would definitely expect the US or someone else to intervene at some point. Hmm.. But however the US doesn't seem to care much about China atm and anything related, due to the market wars. I wouldn't know if they at all would react - they certainly don't atm. But it's definitely inhumane, and should be stopped. It does sound like NK behavior.
2019-06-15 18:18
#120
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Not completely unreasonable, some criminals abuse the lack of extradition treaties, but it was poorly done and set up a very abusable loophole to extradite political opponents. Several countries have made their opposition known, the US, UK, and the EU being some of them.
2019-06-15 18:22
#146
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Denmark Xipingu 
True, but it’s just going overboard imo as is very apparent. But glad it’s been opposed, because regardless of original intention it’s not good enough.
2019-06-16 12:03
#144
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Denmark Notallama 
Fakeflagger or ignorant?
2019-06-16 11:21
#145
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Denmark Xipingu 
Lol? Trusting everything the news says is being gullible, even in Denmark. Only liberals would be stupid enough for that, hence me asking for verification
2019-06-16 12:01
#147
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Denmark Notallama 
If you haven't heard about the extradition bill, you are simply ignorant. It doesn't matter whether you are gullible or not, it's all public information. What exactly would you need "verified"? Also, using "liberal" as an insult.. LOL. You must either be the most retarded Dane I've ever seen, or you just confirmed being a fakeflagger. Hint: A liberal in Denmark is right-wing. I assume that you are trying to "blast" the left wing by using the word, but your tiny mind forgot to take that into account. I'd recommend not using political words when you don't know anything about politics.
2019-06-16 12:51
#149
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Denmark Xipingu 
I saw it on TV, but didn’t make much of it until I asked for some more information. What, you don’t expect me to have something better to do than search on google for an entire day for various topics? I do have a job and a life. If it interests me, I’ll make sure to go more in-depth, thank you very much. Public information or not, I always want it verified. Especially since there’s a lot of global news that is being twisted into something worse than it is. That’s common knowledge really. I’ve met no liberal yet who could actually champion their cause without sounding off the fucking rails, hence my comment. Not a single one. I know what wing it belongs to in Denmark, duh dickhead, it doesn’t change my perspective on them. Hint: I’d recommend you don’t put words into others’ mouth, considering I never intended to “blast” anyone. Also I know enough about politics to be able to vote, more or less above average of voters in Denmark to be fair.
2019-06-16 13:19
#159
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Denmark Notallama 
The protest had been the headline news for 2 straight days, but it was a nice attempt at appearing to have a life m8. You don't even know how to fact-check news... that's depressing. "Common knowledge" that "global news" twist things into "something worse than it is". That has got to be one of the most retarded sentences I've heard so far. Excuse my language, but that's quite a stupid thing to say. We have Reuters and Ritzau who are some of the most trustworthy and reliable sources in the world, but you probably only know of EkstraBladet and BT so I don't blame you. You can't help your lack of knowledge. Also, nice try. It's fairly obvious that you haven't got a single clue about politics, so leave it be. You attempted the American "liberal shaming" and you failed horribly as it doesn't quite work here. You clearly don't know enough to vote, but you sadly have the ability to. I feel ashamed to have you as a countryman.
2019-06-16 14:38
#4
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Kashmir, are we seriously going to ignore what India are doing there. GTFO
2019-06-15 13:05
oh! expected of you pathetic excuses of humanity.
2019-06-15 13:06
#9
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Oh! Excuses of you. Hey, I think someone is stealing from your corner shop. Go beat them up with cricket.
2019-06-15 13:06
Fuck off of my thread, I don't even like talking to you half asleep motherfuckers. /closed
2019-06-15 13:07
#11
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Said the short hobbit from Delhi. Isn't one of your cousins at the front door asking for a quickie? Go help them out.
2019-06-15 13:08
Yo mr pakistani stfu
2019-06-15 17:59
#123
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
There's a stink here. You should leave.
2019-06-15 19:13
India isnt doing shit... its the Pakistani's and Muslim extremists causing all the issues you moron xD
2019-06-16 11:19
#169
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Potato curry
2019-06-16 19:06
xpected low iq reply from chopstickhead
2019-06-16 20:00
#185
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Strong wafted of Indian about here. Someone better get the beef curry to deter them away
2019-06-16 22:29
#184 /closed
2019-06-16 22:29
#188
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Annnnnddd opened. Sup bitch.
2019-06-16 22:55
#180
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
India, Pakistan, and China are all "doing shit."
2019-06-16 22:17
#174
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
wat
2019-06-16 22:14
#5
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
hong kong i have a long dong
2019-06-15 13:05
#109
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Estonia mr_abdul 
epic mens)))))
2019-06-15 17:53
#175
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
10000 IQ
2019-06-16 22:14
#13
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Kazakhstan Tarob 
I thought HongKongese want unite with China
2019-06-15 13:12
#14
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Hong Kong always part of China, until the Brits came and put us in a 99 year drug induced coma. Want us to give up Hong Kong? Give up the Falklands and Puerto Rico first, white people.
2019-06-15 13:13
#21
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Imagine thinking Hong Kong wants to be part of China OMEGALUL. The Falklands democratically decided to stay part of the British Overseas territory, but I understand if you don't understand how democracy works, yellow people.
2019-06-15 13:19
#22
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Democracy, haha, is that what you call Brexit. Go buy a toothbrush kid. Also, I'm British too, I just happen to live in China, and it is a much better place than you think mate.
2019-06-15 13:21
#23
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United Kingdom shmilx 
lol I've lived in China for nearly 20 years, it's not, it's one of the most corrupt places on Earth in the modern world. Brexit was democratic people did this things called voting, a foreign concept in China, I understand
2019-06-15 13:24
#25
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Haha, there is voting in China. It's just erm...you know, one candidate :) Every country's government is corrupt. But take off your prejudice jaundice ridden glasses and view their state as the best that can be expected for a country of that size. Just look at the mess the states and europe are in. Plus countries who opened up to capitalism like Iraq, Russia, Afghanistan. All fucked up even more. At least 1.4bil is out of poverty (ish).
2019-06-15 13:27
#34
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Pseudo-democracy is what China has, much like North Korea. It's not exactly voting if there's one candidate. I'm not prejudice, I'm looking at it objectively. It's a negative thing that the bill is suggesting and China has been wrongfully intruding on HK's territory since 1997 yet you pointed out that the UK is intruding in the Falklands, despite it being a democratic situation. Countries who opened up to communism fucked up their country for years, Venezuala, Vietnam, China under Mao, USSR. In terms of percentage of countries who have tried the system capitalism is much more successful than communism. Size of a country shouldn't affect the level of corruption to the level China has.
2019-06-15 13:34
#36
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Meh, my take on this is, China under Mao was horrendous. Under every successive leader there has been abuse and corruption, but here, they get shit done. Yes if you are on the end of the stick that is getting shafted, then its pretty dire, however, the average Chinese is quite happy and content with their lives as it is significantly better than 30 years ago. I do quite love it here, the people are friendly, you never feel threatened walking around at night, and the inconveniences (firewall, Whatsapp, etc), there are ways around it and also replacements for. China isn't communist atm, it is just straight up totalitarian, but it is a progressive totalitarian that is different to that of Syria, Saudis etc because the country doesn't have to contend with a brainwashed population of religious fanatics. People have common sense here and they are some of the brightest people I've met. The thing is, Hong Kong has always been Chinese, yes there is the one country two systems ruling but it shouldn't be up to us to decide how China decides to run it. This bill whether it passes or not will make no difference. If China wants to bring someone across, it will, and have done with the bookshop owners. But I just dont like the white knighting us in the West keeps trying to intervene on other country's politics. If it was Taiwan, this would be a much different situation as the country has no political connections at all. Anyways, HLTV is hardly the place to discuss this so feel free to PM me and add me on Steam. I do like these kinds of debates.
2019-06-15 13:41
#38
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United Kingdom shmilx 
My steam is my HLTV name it's not hard to find me, no problem with debating it further on steam, but I'll say my point now cus why not. It's true a positive point of authoratianism is things don't have to be debated for months in parlament before it gets implemented, and that China is a much better example of totalitarianism due it the government's PREVIOUS impartiality to religion (recently they have been persecuting ethnic groups of muslims and other religions that aren't Taoism) but I'd say the negative outway the positive just because of how easily it can be (and has been) abused. The average Chinese person is happier than they were 30 years ago, but that's not saying much, it's disgusting how the trials are done. China is friendly depending on where you go and at what time, I can't count the amount of times I've had racial slurs been shouted at me in Mandarin, Cantonese (when I was in Canton and HK) and English, but I'm sure that's expected when you've lived here for a long time. Hong Kong hasn't always been Chinese, it's specifically Cantonese, they have different languages and different cultures, a lot of Hong Kongers see what's happened to the rest of Canton (replacing the local language and the region being federalised) and they hate it. I agree it's not for Western nations to white knight, but I'd imagine even you would find it hard to call this white kniting in the traditional sense, when for years the candidates for CE of HK has to be approved by Beijing. This isn't about intervening in politics, it's about pointing out China's abuse of the system that was put in place after the hand over. #16, the bill wont make a difference I agree, but it's still a worrying concept that what they'll be doing will now be completely legal and abusable (which they will, as they've demonstarted with their own population's political opponents).
2019-06-15 13:58
#49
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
I guess the point is, it was a signed 50 years to 'not touch HK's system' but I think there won't be the expected switch in 2047 that some expect where China will just take over with force. It is a progressive movement that takes some time to slowly implement policies. Cantonese is just a different dialect, the written language is the same. Much like the Scots and Londoners :) I guess the handover system has always just been a let's sign this for the sake of political correctness otherwise the Brits might not hand it over. It's a shame you've had abuse shouted at you, from the people I've met, some have mistaken ogling and attention as discrimination but it's really just that there are loads of Chinese from poorer areas and rural towns who venture to the big cities having never seen another non-Chinese face. I do know black people have a hard time, that is definitely true.
2019-06-15 14:59
#55
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Cantonese is as much of a dialect as Swiss-German and German, they're practically different languages, not accents and slang, they have completely different words. The handover was poorly done by the British and I think that unfortunately HK is paying for it now, and that China is being allowed to do as it pleases.
2019-06-15 15:05
#61
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Yeah, tbh, current leadership in Beijing enacting the kind of policies in mainland, they won't be around too long. Especially with trade tarriffs really hitting home. Fucking pear cost me 11 RMB today...
2019-06-15 15:15
#64
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Jesus, that's like 3x what a pear costs in HK (where I am currently haha agenda xd). I doubt it will stop this kind of political invasion, the mainland is just trying to edge closer and closer to what it will be like in 2047, so when 2047 comes around there isn't much to change, like a frog in boiling water.
2019-06-15 15:23
#65
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Yeah it's exactly like frog in boiling water analogy. Back in 2009, things were going alright, people were getting closer to mainlanders. An extradition ruling is required, just one that has to be voted on by the people so that criminals don't use HK as a haven. I know of people who have run to HK dodging taxes in mainland so it is a problem that needs to be addressed, politics aside.
2019-06-15 15:25
#67
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Yeah, it's definetly an issue, a similar one is present in Macau, to get around gambling laws and siphoning money out of mainland. But it should have been handled much different, this was poor, ill-informed, and straight up dumb. But I guess this is what mainland gets for the reputation they built up over the years as shady dealers.
2019-06-15 15:30
#68
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Yeah, not the average joes though. They don't get a say. Just the ones that enact them. Macau I don't think really minds. It doesn't have much say on anything. Casinos there are also pretty shit. I like to do my gambling on a boat just off HK :D
2019-06-15 15:34
#69
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Of course the average joe isn't a shady dealer, I'm talking about the Chinese politicians. Of course Macau doesn't mind, it's getting money, China minds because it's losing money. I don't gamble too much, had an addiction when I was younger, nearly lost a relationship because of it.
2019-06-15 15:38
#70
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Honestly though, I don't really see any system working. I think the true Western model of politics just won't work in a country like China. Then again the current political state, albeit stable for now, is a ticking time bomb waiting to erupt again. Like 1989, but the sequel, with social media. For me though, as long as I can chillax with a nice cup of sweet congee and my char siu buns, I'm all ok :)
2019-06-15 15:42
#73
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United Kingdom shmilx 
The western model is good, a few steps in the right direction and I think you'll get as good a system as you're going to get. I don't see why it wouldn't work any more than the west, unless you're referring to the ethnic asian groups (Han, Manchu, Hui etc.) who will have differing opinions. I honestly think China should split up into different regions, with their own government, or something similar to the UAE or the US, with many city-state like governments all answering to one federal state. But that's just my opinion.
2019-06-15 15:47
#74
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Yeah, in an ideal world, that would be the best model. UAE is ruled just under sharia law. US is a mess and has been as no government has a legacy to speak of because successive changes in policy just wipes the slate clean again. Shit just doesn't get done ever and there's as much corruption and disgraceful acts as there are in China or anywhere in the world (not funding healthcare for 9/11 emergency workers, dropping criminal charges in Flint, just in past week). The ethnic cleansing occurring though in Western China, that I can't defend. Just shouldn't happen, but then again also, those are very different people and yeah, maybe they shouldn't be part of China if they don't integrate.
2019-06-15 15:51
#79
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Disagree that there's as much corruption in the west as there is in China. There's far more in China than the west, but other than that yeah, like I said a few more steps to go before the best possible model is achieved.
2019-06-15 16:30
As much corruption in the West as in China wtf are you smoking, there is other countries except usa to compare to lol
2019-06-17 16:47
#209
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
UK aint exactly in a great state.
2019-06-17 21:25
Not a really good country either I give you that
2019-06-17 21:46
#211
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Italy past two decades, France, Germany atm, Canada under Trudeau
2019-06-17 21:47
thanks for this debate guys, was pretty intresting to read
2019-06-15 15:01
Cuz u shud go back to ur own country yingguo guizi.
2019-06-15 15:10
#66
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Born and raised in China, I've lived in China longer than many Chinese people. Get back into the trees where you came from, you 10iq bonobo. cao ni ma sha bi. ni shi yitiao gou
2019-06-15 15:27
#40
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Korea XigNw0w 
Do you have Chinese citizenship?
2019-06-15 14:05
#50
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
No, why should I.
2019-06-15 14:59
#131
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Korea XigNw0w 
Just curious, do you live in Hongkong or what?
2019-06-16 03:26
#182
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
It's basically impossible for someone who's British.
2019-06-16 22:21
#200
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Korea XigNw0w 
It's basically impossible for any foreigner. Only HK passport is possible.
2019-06-17 03:37
Crimeans democratically decided to stay part of the Russian Federation, but I understand if you don't understand how democracy works, "white" people.
2019-06-15 13:30
#35
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Using a disputed referendum, that was boycotted and called 'illegal' by half of the world, while the city was practically occupied, as a comparison to the Falklands. Nice strawman.
2019-06-15 13:40
Only disputed because the West knew they would lose. That's why the EU and USA did not even bother to send observers. They just made up lies to try to attack the legitimacy of the referendum instead. You steal Kosovo and support HK and Taiwan independence. Yet when Crimeans vote to leave Ukraine you deny their rights to self-determination. West is full of hypocrites. Total hypocrite full of propaganda.
2019-06-15 14:39
#47
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United Kingdom shmilx 
It was called illegal, because it broke international law, and the Ukrainian constitution, plus the city was occupied. A REGION only has the right to vote for annexation ALONE (not including the rest of the country like these examples) if it has been denied self-determination politically by their own government through a violation of human rights. Notice the difference? The Ukraine hasn't denied human rights, while China has, so it's completely acceptable to vote on places like Taiwan and HK independance, and the Falklands is a completely different point, it was uninhabited previously and most people there are ethnically British so they voted to stay British instead of Argentinian. Everything looks hypocritical when you twist it to your agenda. Again, nice strawman.
2019-06-15 14:39
HK and Taiwan are literally colonial leftovers from land stolen by Western powers. None of that was legal. No one recognises either as independent countries. They are Chinese lands to administer how we decide. Regarding Taiwan, the USA intervened in the Chinese civil war in order to setup a separatist administration on the island. Again, not legal. Ukraine did deny human rights. It banned Russian language and started discriminating against Russian speakers. Crimea is mostly ethnically Russian. You are just a hypocrite who supports Western imperialism. Makes up crap about human rights to justify his countries crimes. This argument you're making up about Crimea being an exceptional case which should not be allowed to vote is just hypocritical nonsense. It isn't written anywhere in the UN charter that a region must be denied human rights before they exercise their right to self determination.
2019-06-15 15:03
+1 Nice to see some sense at HLTV.
2019-06-15 15:07
#63
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Taiwan, not illegal the KMT was being actively hunted by the CCP, they were denying human rights. Actually, you'll find the opposite, many who are anti-russian occupation are being disproportianally prosectued. And no, the Russian language wasn't 'banned'. Ukrainian has just become the language to be spoken in official settings, like school and business. Funny how you don't bring up that China did they same thing in Canton. You're misrepresenting my point... Again. zaoerv.de/75_2015/75_2015_1_a_7_26.pdf Territorial integrity. It's an international law to prevent small ethnic groups from creating referendums in countries, with the political purpose to disrupt the country or to create a new territory. It's so obviouos that you have an agenda lul.
2019-06-15 15:20
ofc i have an agenda. my agenda is the liberation of my country from the influence of White devils like yourself and the reunification of our stolen territories. lmao denying human rights. it was a civil war... American intervention was an assault on our sovereignty. as has been the continued support of a separate puppet Taiwanese administration that is not recognised by anyone. it is a crime against all Chinese people. you are right about a nation's right to protect it's territorial integrity. THAT IS EXACTLY WHY CHINA CAN ADMINISTER TAIWAN, HK, TIBET AND XINJIANG HOWEVER WE LIKE. it's our land. and we will defend it from separatists and terrorists who are being incited and supported by America. you support Ukraine when it seeks to oppress Donbass and Crimea and deny their right to self-determination. But then support independence in Taiwan, etc. you know what? as soon as the USA and the EU were allowed to carve up Yugoslavia and steal Kosovo from Serbia even though it had never been an independent state. they created a precedent which legitimised Crimean independence. you either respect that no new states can seek full independence, only autonomy inside existing nations. or you respect all people's right to self-determination. you don't pick and choose based on what is convenient for NATO and White devils like yourself.
2019-06-15 16:19
#78
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Lol, racism when you know you're wrong either way. So what you're saying is you either don't agree with the Ukraine, or you disagree that Taiwan is part of China. You don't know how to argue do you? You're literally arguing some points to be false (like with Taiwan) with the same argument using it against me (Ukraine) you're either with me or against me lol. Once again, when a state is oppressing it's people and denying their human rights, like the Chinese oh so love to do, then they have the right to ask for independance. I'll break it down for your single digit IQ: 1. Taiwan and HK have human rights abused by China constantly, therefor people think they should be able to vote on leaving. 2. Crimea was occupied during the voting, do you think people weren't afraid? 3. The only international-observer that went to see the Ukrainian-Crimea vote were far-right and far-left political deputies. 4. Why are you arguing a point when you disagree with it, you're fine with Crimea being voted on but Taiwan and HK aren't allowed? Even though China has violated their rights, but Ukraine hasn't violated human rights in Crimea. 5. War does not excuse human rights abuses, you wouldn't argue that what happened in the Opium Wars was acceptable, so why do you argue the civil war was ok? lul, what's it like looking in a mirror and not being able to recognise yourself.
2019-06-15 16:32
"Once again, when a state is oppressing it's people and denying their human rights, like the Chinese oh so love to do, then they have the right to ask for independance." no they don't. you have literally made that up yourself and just repeated yourself. i asked you for proof of that. still waiting. I don't support the principle underpinning ANY separatist movement. separatism is not in the spirit of the UN charter. nations have a right to defend their territorial integrity. But if Kosovo is independent, then Crimea and Donbass have the same legitimacy. the same right to declare unilateral independence. You White devils make up the rules arbitrarily to suit yourselves. It is your racial mentality. you are a dishonest people as your history shows. just like when your ancestors knew opium was bad, but encouraged drug addiction and sold drugs in China so you could make money. hypocrisy is way of life for Westerners. If Kosovo goes back to Serbia and Ukraine gives Donbass and Crimea autonomy and the USA stops inciting insurrection and terrorism in China. That would be just great.
2019-06-15 16:40
#82
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Yes, they do. It's international law, in 2014 most if not all western analysts said this. There is no international precedent because there is nothing to point to, other times things like this has been diplomatically solved in recent history (post-LoN), there is no written law yet, that's unfortunately not how it works, you have a very poor idea of how international law works. edit: euvsdisinfo.eu/report/pending-check-inte.. and read the Friendly Relations Delaration mpil.de/files/pdf4/Marxsen_2014_-_The_cr.. page 385 is of particular note. Like I said then if you agree with Crimea being independant then Taiwan and HK should be too, right? You chinese love to complain about things then do the exact same thing you complain about. Must be your racial mentaility, not recognising hypocrisy or basic social interaction. You know what else would be great? China not abusing human rights, having a just court system, not abusing their own labour force, giving civil liberties to their people, not ethnically cleansing western China. I guess we can't have everything right?
2019-06-15 16:56
"Yes, they do. It's international law, in 2014 most if not all western analysts said this. There is no international precedent because there is nothing to point to, other times things like this has been diplomatically solved in recent history (post-LoN), there is no written law yet" Western analysts said Crimean independence was not valid? Well there's a surprise! Western propagandists =/= Law. Wtf you say there's a law, and then say there is no written law in the same passage. Wtf is this? So you're citing non-existent laws? Expected. Crimeans and Donbass people were forced to declare independence because America incited a coup against the legal government of Yanukovich. American criminals created the situation where people in Eastern UA did not feel like they could remain. Wherever you look, the West is behind most problems. I support the territorial integrity of Ukraine as a country that has not been infiltrated and captured by Western puppets... In that way I support a reunified Ukraine. a reunified Serbia and most of all a reunified China. ))) Freedom for all from Western imperialism and hegemonic criminality.
2019-06-15 17:01
#89
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United Kingdom shmilx 
You support the territorial integrity of Ukraine if the West isn't behind them, but if Russia is thats ok? Expected Chinaman 10iq. Incitement = forcing? Expected. Not adressing the point about Taiwan and HK? Expected low iq Blaming the west for all the problems, despite being from China where human rights violations and espionage are a daily occurrence? Expected Here is the Law relating to annexation and why it was illegal un.org/ruleoflaw/files/3dda1f104.pdf ending paragraph of page 9
2019-06-15 17:09
yes I agree with that. I agree entirely with the UN declaration to the right of people's to self-determination. but sadly that rule was broken in Kosovo. we live in a world where America breaks the law with impunity. whether that is not invading countries, not violating other nations sovereignty, not attacking other nations, not supporting terrorism or coups, etc. so until the USA is held to the US charter, I can't see why Russia can't support Crimean independence. when they both do the same things. if you don't like my country's government, you are free to leave. it is not your country anyway. i hope my government find you and deport you, frankly.
2019-06-15 17:18
#98
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Classic excuse, he did it so I can do it. Anybody doing it is a violation, just because the US is doing it doesn't give other countries the right to do it too, and it's not Crimean independance it's Russian annexation of Crimea, they will own it. The US not being held accountable is a shame, but it's not an excuse to do the same, especially when you're complaining about it in the first place. I'm not educated on the Kosovo independance hence why I haven't commented on it, but I do know about China and Crimea. Fuck your country's corrupt government, it's my country as much as it is yours, ape. You hope someone is deported from where they were born because of differing political ideas, you couldn't have demonstrated in a more clear way how retarded and brainwashed you are. I guess it's to be expected from China at this point.
2019-06-15 17:31
"Classic excuse, he did it so I can do it. Anybody doing it is a violation, just because the US is doing it doesn't give other countries the right to do it too," Ok,soo you are saying that If someone is doing something stupid that it doesn't mean that we should do it as well while you are selectively talking just about the things that are bothering you. "The US not being held accountable is a shame, but it's not an excuse to do the same, especially when you're complaining about it in the first place. I'm not educated on the Kosovo independance hence why I haven't commented on it, but I do know about China and Crimea." I am from Serbia and I am just going to say that I am giving 0 fucks If China is even going to rape whole UK or HK,bcz: I'm not educated on the UKs and HK independance hence why I haven't commented on it. I hate ppl like you,they just care when they are in trouble while in the same time you'd have nothing against If ppl from other countries would have the same issue,ignorant ppl like you shoud be burned to the ground,doesn't matter If they are from the West even tho I know It's really common for Westerns to push their own propaganda on others. On top of all this,I don't even like most of the ppl from my country but if there is something that I dislike more than them,It would be ppl that are pretending to be inocent and only care when they are in the trouble while they do not give shit If other ppl have the same issue.
2019-06-15 22:50
#171
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United Kingdom shmilx 
You seem to have completely misrepresented my point which is pretty expected from a low iq retard. I can't comment on something I know nothing about lol? yet you call me ignorant while defending the chinese regime. I dont think you understand the irony of calling me ignorant and hypocritical when you're doing the exact same thing as me while not even defending your stance. That's fine that you have no idea what's going on, but why comment on it if you're oblivious to the situation, I'm against the war on oil after 9/11 too, just didnt see the need to defend my stance further considering nobody has really refuted my argument past 'america did it so i can too but we're in the right xd' then dont give reasons as to why there's is acceptable while the americans ones are, especially crimea.
2019-06-16 19:41
#204
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Also, not knowing about something is different than not caring about it. I don't know about the Kosovo incident so I didn't comment on it. You said you didn't comment on the HK incident but you're saying you don't care if China comes in and rapes everyone. That is a comment on it. You fucking bonobo.
2019-06-17 04:16
you are not Chinese. you are an anti-Chinese agent living in China. a foreign entity, a fifth column, a pariah. your loyalty is to the West and you should go back there. back to your REAL homeland. it doesn't matter that you were born here. you will never be Chinese. only indigenous people are Chinese. not Westerners with separatist intentions and foreign allegiances.
2019-06-16 23:16
#203
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United Kingdom shmilx 
I have right of abode and the right to vote, I'm as Chinese as a white dude can be. You've provided no argument other than 'The US does it so I can too' then call the west hypocritical... after being hypocritical, and the good old racist argument of 'ur not chinese u have no say' Get the fuck out of here with your anti-west, racist agenda
2019-06-17 04:12
well if the West does smth bad then other people must follow cuz they are the most powerful people in the world. having a moral stand does not work. if it worked then why is the USA getting away with all sorts of illegality? these are people who nuked Japan just to terrorise the world. people who wanted to nuke China just cuz we were whooping their ass in the Korean war. animals. that is just a fake ass argument from yourself. the world does not work through moral principles. the only thing that counts is the balance of power. the West has had it it's way for far too long. so really, anything anyone does against it is fine by me. there is no such thing as White Chinese or Chinese British. 🤣🤣🤣 you are delusional. check your passport plz. you cannot LARP being Chinese. You can say what you like, but your reflection tells the truth.
2019-06-17 16:53
#214
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Like China doesnt get away with what they do. You're delusional or baiting lmao. You're clearly just racist which is a shame. You've brought shame on your country and the people in it. You're hypocritical when your arguments don't hold up, typical I guess for a racist retard :)
2019-06-18 10:48
There is no hypocrisy because China and the USA are not comparable. And where there might be similarities, the USA is way worse. But you would never understand. Your people stole our land, encouraged separatism and sold opium in our country for over 100 years. Before returning to lecture us on human rights. Never gave any apology either. So its just expected really.
2019-06-18 12:12
#216
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United Kingdom shmilx 
There is hypocrasy because what China is doing is worse than what the West has done. Never apologised for all those tibetans and muslims in concentration camps. Try that before comparing the West to what China is doing now. Separatism has been in China for years, the West just gave it the means to do so and salty federalists like yourself are too dumb to know your own history.
2019-06-18 18:28
There are no concentration camps lmao. You are in China but you still listen to Rebiya and her US govt-funded propaganda. Also China improved Tibet by a lot. China is modernising Tibet. You seek to find the cloud rather than see the silver lining in all things Chinese because you are biased.
2019-06-18 18:40
#218
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Britain helped modernise India, Singapore, Hong Kong. That doesn't excuse the atrocities committed during the colonial period, in the same way modernising Tibet isn't an excuse for China. There are concentration camps, you're just denying facts now lmao.
2019-06-18 19:47
not the same. British aggression was foreign aggression. any Chinese actions were legitimate uses of force to reestablish state authority. there are vocational facilities. used to rehabilitate extremists. nothing more. "concentration camps". obvious, laughable propaganda. try harder laowai!
2019-06-18 20:02
#227
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Chinese aggression towards Tibet is 'foreign aggression' quit being a hypocrit and just admit China at the very least just as bad as the colonial period western world. Vocational facilities used to rehabilitate extremists sounds a lot like a labour camp to me. Keep being racist too, it really helps your case.
2019-06-19 05:02
it's not foreign aggression. Tibet is China. your shit ancestors tried to divide China. but that did not change our legal borders and claims over land. we don't recognise separatist authorities and we have no legal obligation to do so. so you're just peddling Western propaganda. which brings us back to what you're doing in my country... it's not a labour camp. extremists go in, rehabilitated people come out. China deals with terrorism more effectively than the West does. once again, there is no proof China has done anything wrong or illegal. just accusations.
2019-06-19 08:47
#233
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Just because you're ethnically similar to Tibetans doesn't mean you're the same, the mainland is foreign to them, you're simply just retarded, you invaded them in 1950, just because you shared a border with them doesn't mean you're not foreign. You're ancestors were druggies that sucked at war and were constantly dividing themselves up into warlord territories. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laogai#Conditions_.. Sounds an awful lot like the British concentration camps during the Boer Wars, which were met with outrage by the British public, so much so, that they had to stop them. It seems your population couldn't care less, yet you say China is better than the West. laogai.it/china-holding-more-than-800-po.. amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/09/china.. One million people have no access to their family whatsoever, this is against the UN Mandela Rules. This is just one example of the illegal nature of Laogai and Laojiao en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-education_throu.. Even Chinese people think the Laojiao are a violation of human rights, it's not just the West that recognise it, are you going to call all the chinese human rights lawyers all 'Western propaganda driven'? Complete idiot with no sense of reality.
2019-06-19 18:57
"You're ancestors were druggies that sucked at war and were constantly dividing themselves up into warlord territories." thanks for that. i'm glad to see the mask is slipping finally. you are just a subversive laowai. continuing your family's traditions. Tibet declared itself independent unilaterally. no one recognised them, except OFC, the British. and we all know your activities in China. don't we? Tibet = never legally independent. So all the irrelevant crap you're talking about just does not matter. finally the UN has not specified any sort of action against China for having penal camps. so... again, who cares? you just want more terrorism in Xinjiang. they should send you to a penal camp tbh.
2019-06-19 19:18
#235
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United Kingdom shmilx 
You insult my ancestors so I insult yours, but I'm the racist, right. The UN hasn't dont anything because China is nuclear and the second anyone disagrees with them, they'll do something much worse. And actually, Britain didn't recognise Tibet as an independant country, so once again, you're misinformed. And actually, Tibet was independant during the warlord period, so again nice try. And of course when I provide evidence 'who cares' the Tibetans care, the human rights lawyers around the world including China care. Completely delusional CCP puppet.
2019-06-20 01:13
He isn't allowed to voice ANY criticism, it's clear enough. hltv.org/forums/threads/2071622/chinese-.. Made a topic about those kind of guys. The op isn't going into details else they would target specific points etc.
2019-06-19 09:26
gyazo.com/4efbfa8cd7073753c4aec06819d0d4.. That's the guy you are dealing with. A chinese puppet not even allowed to voice the slighest criticism against his current government. This is what he thinks of us.
2019-06-18 21:29
#223
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
We get you're point, you're a Westerner. You don't have to spam the same link over and over again lol.
2019-06-18 21:32
With all due respect. Go fuck yourself. gyazo.com/113c0c89a8c53df217b8fd3ea45f49..
2019-06-19 02:11
#229
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
And you hate the East.
2019-06-19 08:32
Not in the slighest.
2019-06-19 08:34
#228
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United Kingdom shmilx 
It's obvious that he's just a complete racist that's been brainwashed by CCP propaganda, but it's a good laugh to point out all the flaws in his arguments, but the best part is he's using a Western flag.
2019-06-19 05:06
going by this logic, Indians should look towards the reunification of their stolen territories. Should take back Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, part of Myanmar, and assimilate them into the Indian territory with no one in this world having a say in whatever methods we use to achieve this.
2019-06-15 17:11
you already did. don't you know your own history? you annexed many states. you act like India is a nation of Gandhis. you can LIE to everyone else, but I know that's not true. you annexed many princely states like Sikkim, Hyderabad, Goa and killed many people. you annexed Kashmir and Manipur and you oppress these people to this day. those people have no human rights there, the army is allowed to kill with impunity and does so. India is a greater oppressor than China is. But because you suck the West's dick you have a free pass. IF there was justice in the world then India would face the same or worse criticism for human rights than China. but there is no justice. There is just Western hypocrisy.
2019-06-15 17:21
lmfao, uneducated chopstickhead is uneducated. You don't know shit about the state of National Integrity in India. The only problem we have in our state is in Kashmir.
2019-06-15 17:25
xaxaxa mad hypocrite. freedom for Manipur and Kashmir. at least China never turned Tibet or Xinjiang into a free-fire zone for our armies. if we had done what you did. it would be on the front page of every newspaper worldwide. but because Indians do it. Western media stays silent. the whole world is corrupted by the West.
2019-06-15 17:34
lol? the one who is mad is you because you are misinformed and unqualified to even debate on this topic.
2019-06-15 17:27
2019-06-15 17:28
gyazo.com/4efbfa8cd7073753c4aec06819d0d4.. Look at this guy showing his true color again. Chinese puppet who can't even voice any criticism toward his government.
2019-06-18 21:30
#105
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United Kingdom shmilx 
2019-06-15 17:30
"Give up the Falklands and Puerto Rico first, white people." Ah yes, a well known fact that all white people are in control of those areas. Unless you're saying that all white people are British and American?
2019-06-15 22:57
#128
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Whites all originated from Britain.
2019-06-15 23:37
Even if that's true (No idea so not going to start arguing about it) That still doesn't really make (for example) Finns very British today. We've never oppressed anyone or had a colony etc. But we're being lumped in with the people who did. I don't really enjoy it.
2019-06-15 23:42
ignore that cunt, he is straight up being racist.
2019-06-16 00:12
#139
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Denmark Twick_ 
They dont
2019-06-16 09:21
Hong Kong goat
2019-06-15 13:16
Agenda driven post, classic Indian streetshitter
2019-06-15 13:18
+1
2019-06-15 13:31
#33
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
+1
2019-06-15 13:34
#42
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China VanNostelrooy 
+11111
2019-06-15 14:18
#72
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China teguP 
#42
2019-06-15 15:44
#140
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Denmark Twick_ 
How lazy do you have to be teguPekfjqk??
2019-06-16 09:22
I'm not teguPekfjqk WTF Week long ban for saying that HK is part of China btw Hltv = Chinese website confirmed
2019-06-16 12:56
#176
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
#72
2019-06-16 22:14
It is extremely funny that those who +1'd your post are all Chinese. Maybe you are one too, Mr. FakeFlag?
2019-06-15 17:13
I am not Chinese, proof is in my posts i have made in previous threads. Is it funny for you that Chinese + me after you make an abysmal statement saying China is nk2 and you willing to let OIL SA interfere to lay ruin(like always) to those countries? You are either being a nonce or a clown merchant
2019-06-15 17:51
#195
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
He's Indian, what do you expect. Both a nonce and a clown merchant
2019-06-16 22:59
fuck those indian cuntts
2019-06-15 17:25
Stfu muslim
2019-06-15 18:01
#194
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Fuck off diaper
2019-06-16 22:58
Nt mohammad
2019-06-17 03:54
#208
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Who you calling Mohammad. Quit shitting on the streets.
2019-06-17 21:21
I know you are fking muslim pakistani cunt ,please focus on goat fking ,allah will be happy or bomb someone
2019-06-18 02:04
#224
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Time to meet your maker. Vishnu, or whatever one of those fake gods you have are.
2019-06-19 01:04
No ,72 virgins are enough for you
2019-06-19 02:30
#236
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Nah, can't trust that one of the 72 is one of your cousins.
2019-06-20 02:10
#177
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
#176
2019-06-16 22:15
China is long overdue to regain Hong Kong and Taiwan.
2019-06-15 13:19
#32
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
Tbh, take Hong Kong cos it's a nothing city nowadays. But I quite like Taiwan as it is now.
2019-06-15 13:33
#196
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
+1
2019-06-16 23:00
Taiwan needs to be left alone.
2019-06-15 16:50
[comment censored by the Chinese-ruled government of Australia]
2019-06-15 13:32
#31
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
lol Aussies would never let that happen. Kiwis, sure.
2019-06-15 13:33
#39
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United Kingdom shmilx 
[REDACTED]
2019-06-15 14:01
gg
2019-06-15 13:43
Nice to see people around the world actually care about us. We will fight to protect our core values.
2019-06-15 14:06
the bill’s currently suspended so its not over yet for HK. And ofc alot will care considering China’s current actions.
2019-06-15 15:10
Another protest on Sunday (HK time) Hopefully it can put the chaos to an end.
2019-06-15 17:49
lost all respect I had for china
2019-06-15 15:01
#191
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
You can't lose 0
2019-06-16 22:57
#192
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
WTF MENS)))
2019-06-16 22:57
The US won't get involved for a few reasons. 1 Hong Kong has no Meth or Oil. 2 There is fuck all they could do vs China.
2019-06-15 15:02
#59
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Spain elskio 
US would protect Taiwan but not HK
2019-06-15 15:12
I mean, why does US have to protect other countries citizen? It does make sense. Whatever happened in Hong Kong and Taiwan are all internal politic conflicts, it's not like CCP is massacring Taiwanese and Hong Kongnese right now. What happened in HK, it was really a power conflict, it was an interest to internationalism, extradition criminals laws should be made and it makes full sense to me, especially within the same country, it was just people in HK being bitchy about it.
2019-06-15 17:18
lmfao? Let the govt paintball, smoke, tear and pepperise to terrorize the people & you say "it's not like CCP is massacring Taiwanese and Hong Kongnese right now" ??????
2019-06-15 17:22
Look at what the Indian government is doing at Communist party of India first, that is what called massacre, terrorize.
2019-06-15 17:28
#119
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Brazil de_stroyed 
I'm no expert but isn't that what every police force do in a riot/protest
2019-06-15 18:20
#193
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
In India, just send some cows in and the people will move. Like the bulls of Pamplona.
2019-06-16 22:58
fuck china! fuck collectivism!
2019-06-15 15:13
#62
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Iran Shia 
What are you going to do? Boycott them? China won't care.
2019-06-15 15:15
Mother love me long time, long time
2019-06-15 15:56
Because nobody can dick with China. Seriously, how come IS are always bombing Christian shit when they have literal concentration camps in China for muslims where they're forced to drink alcohol and eat pork. Nobody does something about it 'cus can't fuck with China.
2019-06-15 15:59
if IS tried, China wouldnt stop until they’ve been completely eradicated so yes.
2019-06-15 16:47
They didn't force them to drink alcohol and eat pork lmao
2019-06-15 17:56
Sounds if I can do something lol
2019-06-15 16:54
Big brother is watching me so I cannot say much :(((((((
2019-06-15 17:00
All i see are ignorant people who knows nothing about the situation that's antagonizing china. The younger Hongkong generations are such a group of idiotic people who are easily manipulated, they seem to forget every event when China save their asses and just find reasons to solely oppose china for the sake of it.
2019-06-15 17:33
#112
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
You're ignorant
2019-06-15 17:56
and what do you know of the situation? do you live in Hongkong? China? You just follow the mainstream media that are paid by the Americans to cast a bad shade of light against China to try to gain a upperhand in the tradewar.
2019-06-15 17:59
They are pushing the proposal out from nowhere, not even a single advisory. 1million people protested. Replies with noted the other day. Don't tell me it isn't an order from China. We are not idiots we know what's behind this shit. That's why we are protesting risking being shot in the face and eating tons if tear gas.
2019-06-15 18:30
I’m feel very sorry for you. For you to hate China just for the sake of it. You’re just the puppets of the western society that’s orchestrating chaos. What’s so bad about this policy except “being made in China”? I bet you’ll be loving the very same law if it were to come from uk or USA. As much as you want to ignore your roots, the reality is, you are chinese, and without china there won’t be the HongKong today. You’re even desperately dependent on China’s water supply, tourists and money being thrown in your banks by Chinese people. Stop being brainwashed and start thinking for yourselves.
2019-06-16 07:15
No China =Don't have HK today. What about tmr, the future. I don't want to use vpn to get to HLTV, Facebook, Instagram and shit like that. I don't want to watch tv and all the channels are controlled by the government. Yes, China is important to us but being part of China doesn't mean we have to agree with everything they do and give up our freedom which China don't want us to have. This is what we are fighting for.
2019-06-16 11:13
Who is giving up their freedom? Nobody will ever touch your Facebook or Instagram. I would understand if it’s an outrageous policy, but as repeated again and again, this policy only goes after major criminals, it does not affect 99.9% of you at all. m.facebook.com/RTHKVNEWS/videos/12686048.. Please stop getting manipulated by the western media any further. You are not fighting for freedom. I will pray for HongKong’s well being and mental state.
2019-06-16 13:29
No, look deeply man. U say we, the teenagers are ignorant. U urself are only believe in what the government said, which they are trying to cover up people's angryness and the purpose behind this policy. We all know China is known as making people disappear or making up crime and put it on people. How can we believe China will use this policy properly. Don't tell me the progress has to go through a lot of steps to make sure the "criminals" are fairly treated. Once the Chinese Gov make the order, HK gov will just listen to them like a dog. They can just put a crime on someone they don't like and transport them to mainland China and then what happens? Who tf know.
2019-06-16 14:32
China has been improving vastly and clearing up their corruption rapidly under their new leader, some’s cities are even surpassing hongkong in terms of infrastructure and technology.. You keep assuming that China are a nation of thieves, that’s maybe a few decades back. But you have to be the ones to give China a chance to show their trustworthiness. If China really is like what you said then they wouldn’t even need this policy in the first place, they can just make people they don’t like “disappear”. And so far none of the leaders who are strongly opposing this law have disappeared no?
2019-06-16 15:26
Give them a chance? I will say maybe after 10 more years. Yes they are improving. I won't ignore this as a fact, but the problem is their judicial and moral code is still not good enough. I am not saying they are the worst but not enough is not enough. Give them a chance but what if things go wrong? We don't even stand a chance to protest at that time.
2019-06-16 15:36
Who was it that saved you guys and started encouraging people to visit when HongKong was known as no mans land during the SARS outbreak? Yeah that’s right.
2019-06-16 07:18
Yea and then the visiting turn into immigrating. Brunch of low level educated mainlanders came over. They took our house, kill our culture and local moms can't even found a god damn spot to get their baby born bcoz the mainlanders moms all rush to HK to have their baby born in order to become HKERS. They took everything from us.
2019-06-16 11:03
you’re awfully ignorant aren’t you? You really expect HKers to care what mainlanders do or can do for them? They care about the freedoms they have which they dont in the mainland, not the fucking money. Did you srsly expect nothing to happen when all of those freedoms were to potentially get stripped of? Fuck no.
2019-06-16 13:26
You’re the ignorant one. Do you even know what freedom means? It does not mean the right to do whatever you want, it means the power to NOT do what you don’t want to do. HK people can check out all the thots on Instagram and watch funny videos on YouTube all they want. But without China they will be starving and without much water to go around. Nobody can do whatever they want in this world you idiot.
2019-06-16 13:54
you’re not getting the fucking point. HKers are able to do things which the rest of the mainland can do which if they were to be taken away they wont allow it. Its important that the mainland trades with HK, however the freedoms HK has are just as important to them which they will never allow anyone to take them away.
2019-06-16 14:10
And this new extradition policy ain’t taking away their freedom. So why are those people going against it while under the pretense that they are fighting for freedom? The only thing they’re fighting for at this point are criminals
2019-06-16 14:13
No, HK Gov is the one who go against the criminals. HK gov is putting the Taiwan murder case on the table in order to use it as an excuse to pass the policy. Taiwan don't want to get use by the HK gov so they refuse to take the murder even the policy pass. Hk gov is the one who fk this up. The HK gov could have make a single term to move the murder to Taiwan.
2019-06-16 14:37
#121 #122, answer him you dumbshit. why are you turning a deaf ear to him now?
2019-06-15 22:34
Shut your cup lol. You’re just an attention seeking fool.
2019-06-16 07:13
How unintelligent of you. People are being oppressed and when I point it out, you say I am seeking attention? Besides, there is this guy from Hong Kong who himself says that they are being wronged and you say that they don't know any better? You are conceited and your ignorance is boundless.
2019-06-16 09:06
I agree people are being oppressed in India. Muslims are being lynched for walking with their cows. Kashmiri people are being occupied by India's 2 million strong occupation garrison. They are being shot in the street or maimed. People in Assam and Manipur have had their civil rights stripped and now the army can kill them without facing any charges thanks to laws passed by Indian parliament. You need to fix that oppression in your country.
2019-06-16 16:43
You don't deserve to spout nonsense on the topics you are uneducated about. /closed Put up some plausible and rational arguments... Maybe then will I be inclined to have a debate with a degenerate such as you.
2019-06-16 16:45
Still misinformed.
2019-06-16 16:59
lmfao go lynch someone for eating beef.
2019-06-16 17:02
Maybe you should consider shutting your trap. You only proved you’re fucking ignorant.
2019-06-16 13:27
Listen, no teenagers in HK want to see HK become another regular city in China. NO! There is such a big gap between HK and China judicial system. If we don't step up and defend our core values. We will just become another city controlled by the communism. Yes, China do bring us some benefits on some circumstances but guess who help us with those essential one? Tsing Ma bridge, airport, first tunnel connect Kowloon and HK island. Definitely not China. China didn't even have the ability to help and protect HK at that time. And now? China want HK to be part of it like his own fking son. HELL NO. We won't give ourselves up to China, at least not without trying and defending.
2019-06-15 18:24
#126
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Brazil Portl4nd 
do mainlanders really shit everywhere?
2019-06-15 22:50
Tbh only a few of them.
2019-06-16 04:24
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United Kingdom shmilx 
Most common thing I see is them spitting on the floor a lot. Shitting on MTRs and the streets is more hyperbole/meme
2019-06-16 22:20
#110
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Netherlands Im_gaaayyy 
It's actually Hong Kong
2019-06-15 17:56
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Sri Lanka Kandy 
Ironic that India is talking about these type of things.
2019-06-16 13:59
These people will speak for me. youtu.be/FiG1cuCwwWs
2019-06-16 14:42
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Finland siloquez 
Like USA would do anything to China. Only thing they can do is to "bully" some un important country or those who have oil and no nukes.
2019-06-16 16:58
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
So true. And in return then bombard it with American crap and bloat the world with their goods.
2019-06-16 22:56
in hong kong there are living chinese people. so it belongs 100% to china. the same goes with taiwan. china want to take influence there but great britain see hong kong still as his colony. in german media, i read that hong kong will be no special administrative region in 2047.
2019-06-16 22:37
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New Zealand LewsTherin 
China and HK best friends now. TyLoo just signed Freeman. PROOF.
2019-06-16 23:00
China is too powerful to fuck with them. They control the market we can't do shit about them
2019-06-16 23:16
I was one of the protecter & i asked Freeman on IG pm about it and he said 'i knew' and 'Be careful' to me this really meaningful to us and that's why his name came from.
2019-06-17 04:44
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