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overrated pros
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Denmark Gryde 
i'll start - woxic
2019-06-15 13:36
#1
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France ponche 
dev1ce
2019-06-15 13:36
LUL, saying device overrated, in what world do you live in
2019-06-15 14:03
#24
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African Union nm1 
he is a superstar but not the second best player after s1mple
2019-06-15 14:07
then who is?
2019-06-15 14:09
#32
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African Union nm1 
zywoo electronic niko all better then device imo
2019-06-15 14:12
LUL, zywoo, what titles did he win? electronic, sure he's good but not for top 2, niko?? motherfucking niko?? niko in 2016/2017? sure why not
2019-06-15 14:13
By your logic xizt is the best player I'm history, device big noob compared with him. He said best players as most skilled, zywoo is top 3 player currently individually, and niko os the second best rifler behind s1mple.
2019-06-15 14:23
#56
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Denmark DanishDelight 
Stop being dumb pls. Device were #2 LAST year, how many official t1 matches did Zywoo have then? Niko is a good aimer but terrible tactician and teamplayer, hence why Faze never wins shit and keeps changing one good player after another
2019-06-15 14:26
#63
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Device not even top30. On GOAT lists he should be ranked outside of top50. The most overrated pro ever existed.
2019-06-15 14:29
Flag checks out
2019-06-15 14:32
#73
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Denmark DanishDelight 
nt ex6tenz
2019-06-15 14:35
+1
2019-06-17 07:26
#74
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Europe g4nl0cK 
What does tactics have to do with raw skill, so by what you said niko is better than device and gla1ve is better than anyone atm also pronax was the best player in 2014/2015
2019-06-15 14:36
#84
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Denmark DanishDelight 
Next time try to read and understand a post before commenting it. Where did i say tactics only makes you the best player? I said that raw aim only doesn't make you the best player
2019-06-15 14:42
Next time try to read and understand a post before commenting it. Where did i say tactics only makes you the best player? I said that raw aim only doesn't make you the best player
2019-06-16 15:16
#95
NiKo | 
Belgium JariCSGO 
NiKo is way way better than Dev1ce skillwise tho...
2019-06-15 14:56
i have literally no idea what you're talking about, you must be dumb LOL, idk what the fuck you see in niko but ok, you're probably one of those LEMs that think they actually know the game, zywoo, sure he's a good player, but did he win anything special yet? did he win an actual important tournament with like the best of the best teams? i dont think so, same thing happened to niko, when he was in mouz, sure he was a good player carrying mouz, but he couldnt win anything because he was still in mouz, vitality is the same, just winning small tournaments but when it comes to big ones, i highly doubt zywoo will be enough for them
2019-06-15 14:56
i have literally no idea what you're talking about, you must be dumb LOL, idk what the fuck you see in niko but ok, you're probably one of those LEMs that think they actually know the game, zywoo, sure he's a good player, but did he win anything special yet? did he win an actual important tournament with like the best of the best teams? i dont think so, same thing happened to niko, when he was in mouz, sure he was a good player carrying mouz, but he couldnt win anything because he was still in mouz, vitality is the same, just winning small tournaments but when it comes to big ones, i highly doubt zywoo will be enough for them
2019-06-16 15:16
pronax 3 majors so >>>>>> S1mple lul.
2019-06-15 16:47
snail's brain >>> your brain
2019-06-15 18:27
lol that's your logic I quote u : "LUL, zywoo, what titles did he win?"
2019-06-15 21:31
yep, you literally have no brain xDD try again
2019-06-16 12:01
ok you're braindead
2019-06-16 16:01
#199
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Poland misterr_ 
dont even try he is baiting 100%
2019-06-18 01:48
#2
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Spain iBuyQueso 
oskar
2019-06-15 13:36
He is underrated wtf
2019-06-15 14:24
#60
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Spain iBuyQueso 
yemen)) he was my fav awper in mouz. isn't the same now
2019-06-15 14:28
True but I think he just doesnt give a fuck and gets the salary :D
2019-06-15 14:30
#67
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Spain iBuyQueso 
ye so he can afford bmw maintenance
2019-06-15 14:30
True
2019-06-15 14:31
#194
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Hungary subzera 
yup. i feel i never see him get kills, and when i do, theyre easy ones
2019-06-17 07:37
woxic is overrated? Haha
2019-06-15 13:38
#4
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Finland Einst3in 
flag checks out WOXIC is DOGSHIT
2019-06-15 13:38
#6
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Europe Cirro 
+1
2019-06-15 13:39
kk
2019-06-15 13:42
-1
2019-06-15 14:10
#39
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Kyrgyzstan CheeLongQua 
+1
2019-06-15 14:14
second highest rated in mousesports
2019-06-15 14:23
You are dogshit, woxic is amazing
2019-06-15 14:46
-1 allu is dogshit
2019-06-15 14:56
-1
2019-06-15 15:05
-100
2019-06-15 15:05
#178
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
no :-)
2019-06-16 23:44
#5
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Europe Cirro 
device, autimatic, coldzera, gob b (as igl)
2019-06-15 13:39
yeah well nobody overrates gob b as a fragger
2019-06-15 13:41
#15
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Turkey M@CHINE 
really he didn't got 100 kills last 10 matches :)
2019-06-15 14:03
#17
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Europe Cirro 
can u read? i wrote "as igl"
2019-06-15 14:08
just pointed out that its useless to specifiy. im sorry men but i really worry about your reading comprehension now.
2019-06-15 14:11
#70
shox | 
France Malo0o 
cold lol
2019-06-15 14:33
#90
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Europe Cirro 
Just look at the forum when mibr wins
2019-06-15 14:50
#99
shox | 
France Malo0o 
he is two time major mvp and two time top 1 and u think he is overated ?
2019-06-15 15:01
right now he is
2019-06-15 16:38
#182
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Brazil Saint_Jatai 
Nobody rates him as a top1 player anymore
2019-06-17 00:36
You did
2019-06-17 07:00
#198
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Brazil Saint_Jatai 
What
2019-06-18 01:38
#94
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Brazil Deikiw 
cold nice joke
2019-06-15 14:55
#179
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
yes :-)
2019-06-16 23:44
#7
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Finland Einst3in 
Stanislaw
2019-06-15 13:40
Lets give him a one more chance in NRG, this move is interesting.
2019-06-15 17:05
#149
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Finland Einst3in 
Stan igl need to go. he is better fragger than caller.
2019-06-15 21:04
#195
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Hungary subzera 
+1
2019-06-17 07:37
woxic is not overrated he plays really well against team what tier is
2019-06-15 13:41
+1
2019-06-15 14:42
#11
TACO | 
Brazil 1luucas 
Hen1
2019-06-15 13:44
XANTARES I mean he is a good player, a decent aimer but he often makes stupid decisions, he is just overhyped because his aim which is really good, but I honestly don't think he is one of the best players with overall skills in cs go, he is just overrated
2019-06-15 13:45
#13
XANTARES | 
Germany k0ri 
0/8 polish scene
2019-06-15 14:02
#23
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Belarus fan_of_North 
What does polish scene has to do with his opinion? He is indeed overrated
2019-06-15 14:07
German scene talking about polish scene omegalul
2019-06-15 14:12
0iq, what have PL to XANTARES being.overrsted
2019-06-15 15:21
That is the result of someone not either reading or understanding comments properly. Or bait. 0/8 either way
2019-06-15 16:35
#92
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Europe Cirro 
50IQ answer
2019-06-15 14:51
#19
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Turkey M@CHINE 
dude u have to watch eleague boston major :) or click hltv main page after that press stats and select all time :)
2019-06-15 14:05
#75
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Poland Banzanic 
who cares about some1 stats again tier 10 teams
2019-06-15 14:37
#21
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Belgium HLTVnewfag 
+1
2019-06-15 14:06
+1
2019-06-15 14:06
#76
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Poland Banzanic 
+1
2019-06-15 14:37
he has a great aim actually but he has no gamesense and onliner
2019-06-15 16:49
+1 That's my thoughts
2019-06-15 16:52
#166
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Turkey tastemycobra 
I kinda agree. He is often hyped to be a s1mple or niko level player, but he hasnt shown that consistency yet. And he signed for a low tier team like big although he got offers from mouz and faze. What a retarded decision, and kinda shows he is not up for that sort of challenge.
2019-06-16 12:08
#16
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Lithuania KoksSkirtumas 
sixer
2019-06-15 14:03
#181
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France Juriska 
lol made me laugh, it's true that sixer will always be overrated x)
2019-06-17 00:28
#18
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Australia tavalol 
autimatic allu (ppl rly think hes top 5 awp omegalul) fallen
2019-06-15 14:05
#25
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Spain Classicalesp 
allu is top 5 awp bro can u say to me 5 awps better than him?
2019-06-15 14:08
s1mple guardian zywoo cerq device nitro kennys woxic most, if not all of them are better than allu (in terms of raw awp skill)
2019-06-15 14:13
#40
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Spain Classicalesp 
s1mple ok guardian AHAHAHAHAHAHAH bro allu >>>> guardian zywoo ok cerq meh inconsistent allu=cerq i guess device ok nitro no kennys no washed up bo, too agressive woxic VERY inconsitent
2019-06-15 14:15
Allu better than GODian? In which world are you living ?
2019-06-15 16:40
Still not better AWPer , he is miles behind GuardiaN
2019-06-15 17:00
#135
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Spain Classicalesp 
flag checks out
2019-06-15 17:00
Flag checks out
2019-06-17 07:15
#197
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Spain Classicalesp 
? 0/8
2019-06-17 15:00
guardian is better than allu lmfao
2019-06-15 16:56
#132
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Spain Classicalesp 
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/2757/Guar.. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/2757/Guar..
2019-06-15 16:59
He said raw awp skill in brackets you actually believe allu is more skilled than GuardiaN????
2019-06-15 17:01
#137
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Spain Classicalesp 
yes he is, in 2019. if we are talking about 2014 2015 2016 2017 and 2018 guardian was better
2019-06-15 17:03
his raw awp skill is still better than allu's its just GuardiaN is not as consistent at showing/utilizing that skill this year big difference
2019-06-15 17:51
#200
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Poland misterr_ 
+1
2019-06-18 01:52
device guardian autimatic simple zywoo woxic though allu is still very very guud (ik i named 6)
2019-06-15 14:13
#109
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New Zealand Flippee 
Even NiKo and Oskar is better with awp
2019-06-15 15:19
#133
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Spain Classicalesp 
not true
2019-06-15 17:00
#140
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
46 y.o. truck driver oskar from Czechia > Allu Also NiKo second best player in the world if you didn't know.
2019-06-15 17:29
#142
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
Last i checked it's not 2018 Btw "Fan of Hellraisers"
2019-06-15 17:36
#108
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
Device, Guardian, S1mple, Zywoo, Oskar, Niko, arT > Bot Allu
2019-06-15 15:19
#117
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Spain Classicalesp 
GUARDIAN AHAHAHAHHAHA Niko no Oskar wtf are u kidding me that 45 yo granddad Art wtf Hen1>Art
2019-06-15 16:41
#120
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
"Fan of hellraisers"
2019-06-15 16:43
#121
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Spain Classicalesp 
8/8
2019-06-15 16:44
NiKo
2019-06-15 14:06
#26
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Ukraine fixcrimeapls 
pashabiceps
2019-06-15 14:08
#93
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Europe Cirro 
Its not thread about underrated players
2019-06-15 14:55
#106
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Ukraine fixcrimeapls 
my mistake sorry
2019-06-15 15:16
ISSAA ropz twist gla1ve daps CeRq TACO gob b tarik
2019-06-15 14:11
Who, rates taco or gob b
2019-06-15 14:16
People who think gob b is a mastermind and people who think TACO being terrible is fine just because he's a support
2019-06-15 14:20
+1 to gob b -1 to taco
2019-06-15 14:24
#119
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Spain Classicalesp 
tarik??
2019-06-15 16:42
#180
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
hes shit
2019-06-16 23:45
Guardian, has like 20 major finals but 0 wins NiKo aka groupstage hero Konfig
2019-06-15 14:11
Still being in top 20 every year , i dont think that Ladislav is overrated
2019-06-15 16:41
yuurih
2019-06-15 14:13
Nawwk
2019-06-15 14:14
kennyS, mostly because of kids that only watch his highlights and flashy plays.
2019-06-15 14:16
#78
JD | 
Poland Banzanic 
because he used to be good and now he isnt
2019-06-15 14:38
#42
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Kyrgyzstan CheeLongQua 
zywoo
2019-06-15 14:16
Stewie2k,Scream,Twist(SWE),k0nfig,Natosaphix ,Espiranto,Xantares
2019-06-15 14:18
Why stewie2k tho? He just changed role to fit in and doesn't get much fragging opportunities cos hes always rotating. He's still very good tier 1 player
2019-06-15 15:01
+1 someone gets it
2019-06-15 16:56
still better than all nordic awpers
2019-06-15 14:19
Jamppi>woxic
2019-06-15 14:34
No ty
2019-06-15 15:04
#185
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Romania cyber8 
draken>woxic
2019-06-17 00:43
Rofl
2019-06-17 02:47
S0mple
2019-06-15 14:20
Zeus People act like he's a good IGL but in fact he's terrible at in-game leading and you can't reassure me
2019-06-15 14:20
#55
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Europe N3sHie1k 
wtf, he joined gambot and they won a major
2019-06-15 14:26
Yeah while getting carried by Hobbit & AdreN
2019-06-15 14:26
#65
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Europe N3sHie1k 
without him they wouldn't win a major, because he is god igl
2019-06-15 14:30
Sure, whatever helps you sleep at night
2019-06-15 14:39
Gambit + Zeus = major winners Na`Vi - Zeus = tier3 Gambit - Zeus =tier 5 and disband Na`Vi +Zeus = top4 @ world. Strong captain makes strong team.not stupid aimers.
2019-06-15 14:30
#81
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Europe N3sHie1k 
+1
2019-06-15 14:40
#82
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Europe N3sHie1k 
0 iq russian men doesn't get it
2019-06-15 14:40
Nothing more than just a coincidence
2019-06-15 15:18
NaVi went to shit when Zeus left and seized tried to IGL Gambit went to shit when Zeus left and Adren tried to IGL not a coincidence
2019-06-15 16:59
Maybe tactic wise not the best but he has other qualities that no other player has
2019-06-15 15:03
ZYWOO, baiting for frags
2019-06-15 14:22
#183
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France Ruben_H 
Name checks out
2019-06-17 00:39
yuurih
2019-06-15 14:25
#58
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France Uexo 
Scream (many people think that the french scene need him)
2019-06-15 14:26
+1
2019-06-15 14:27
#201
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Poland misterr_ 
but french scene need him
2019-06-18 01:54
Gla1ve, his stats have dropped since smoke bug fixed and people thinks he is a mastermind, when it's actually zonic's responsibility (mainly) that they are such a good tactical team.
2019-06-15 14:28
#62
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Russia GutturalSlug 
scream, kio, rops
2019-06-15 14:30
#80
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Poland Banzanic 
kio? he gets kick from every team why is he overrated then?
2019-06-15 14:39
there are still frenchies who list him in every NEXT FRENCH SUPER TEAM xD
2019-06-15 18:53
#162
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Poland Banzanic 
+1
2019-06-15 22:53
#186
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France Ruben_H 
No, he is the problem
2019-06-17 00:43
#72
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Finland zntei 
GeT_RiGhT FalleN zehN oskar Xyp9x frozen NaToSaphiX
2019-06-15 14:35
device, electronic, ScreaM
2019-06-15 14:38
In my country, definitively Fox.
2019-06-15 14:45
device, coldzera they are just baiting other teammates and then they have unbelievable stats and everyone mibr or astra fan masturbates into their stats lol
2019-06-15 14:47
#88
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India AkMMonsTeR 
RaiN inconsistent af and mostly frags on ecos and halfbuys ,shit at gun rounds got good role in the team thats why getting the frags
2019-06-15 14:48
Refrezh
2019-06-15 14:49
ZywOo XANTARES Device Coldzera xseveN tarik autimatic
2019-06-15 14:51
coldzera ? omegaLUL
2019-06-15 22:45
#187
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France Ruben_H 
Name checks out
2019-06-17 00:44
NBK Apex RPK tarik autimatic scream oskar zeus
2019-06-15 14:58
alot of players in pro scene are overrated as fuck. two names stand out though. Extremely overrated players IMO rain ScreaM underrated players allu xyp9x VINI NBK apex Not the flashiest players in todays scene but they always work hard, always give their all to win and they don't play for stats like some other overrated players in todays scene These are the type of players you want on your team.
2019-06-15 15:07
#202
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Poland misterr_ 
xypx underrated ALLO literally EVERYONE calls him the clutch king and stuff
2019-06-18 01:55
ScreaM, Kenny, Tarik, Xantares
2019-06-15 15:26
Krimz,scream, guardian
2019-06-15 16:36
#126
f0rest | 
Sweden iCYAto 
Get_right
2019-06-15 16:54
#156
JW | 
Sweden Emmanu3liY 
No one thinks he is good except delusional Nip fans
2019-06-15 21:43
#168
f0rest | 
Sweden iCYAto 
Says the man who loves jw
2019-06-16 15:14
#172
JW | 
Sweden Emmanu3liY 
Love?`cuz i have him as my flair? yea i like his personality and playstyle cuz he is funny. But I don't love him
2019-06-16 15:18
#128
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United States twistzzgod 
XANTARES
2019-06-15 16:56
Xantares.
2019-06-15 17:07
poonuts69
2019-06-15 18:53
XANTARES ON LAN device oskar
2019-06-15 21:06
#152
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United States Frotha 
Twistzz
2019-06-15 21:12
#158
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Indonesia Alekira 
-1
2019-06-15 21:54
#153
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Portugal MR_CAL 
scream
2019-06-15 21:14
#157
JW | 
Sweden Emmanu3liY 
+1
2019-06-15 21:43
#160
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United States Frotha 
+1
2019-06-15 21:57
#159
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Switzerland Alpollo 
Explain why Woxic.
2019-06-15 21:57
#165
mimi | 
Philippines nilb0g 
krimz
2019-06-16 12:03
#167
f0rest | 
Finland DenitZ 
S1mple
2019-06-16 12:11
#169
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Autimatic
2019-06-16 15:15
#173
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Algeria MagnumDz 
ladiiiiiiiiiiiiies and gentlemen.... i present to you , the mooooooost overrated pro ever ...Screaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam
2019-06-16 15:19
#174
draken | 
Ukraine Woejoj 
Kscerato /close
2019-06-16 15:22
sdy
2019-06-17 07:15
#196
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Hungary subzera 
flamie
2019-06-17 07:39
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