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Private Healthcare
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
A conversation i had this morning. hltv.org/forums/threads/2070188/right-wi.. What side are you on? Only private HC vs. "Free" HC for everyone vs. Private + "Free" HC
2019-06-17 17:03
#1
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Brazil Gerzilian 
I agree with u taxes sux
2019-06-17 17:05
the latter. I want there to be universal healthcare but there should also be private healthcare as an option. And you were arguing with an idiot anyway so his opinion doesnt count.
2019-06-17 17:06
why would that be? It is a terrible system, I mean better than what the US has but if u could chose there is literally no reason at all to chose that. In case you mean that purely relating to the US situation that is ofc the only way to get a universal Healthcare considering the strength of pharma and especially insurance lobbies.
2019-06-17 23:00
universal healthcare will be brought to this country, it’s practically inevitable. However I still think private healthcare should stay as an option. Our healthcare system is shit so its not surprising that alot want it changed or abolished. No one should pay thousands just for something simple even with insurance. And whenever people get injured, most arent even worried about their health, they’re worried about how much they have to pay.
2019-06-17 23:08
I did not question the need of universal Healthcare. I questioned the need of a private healthcare as addition to it and I would like to know why you think there is a need.
2019-06-17 23:10
some people dont want to wait and would rather pay. If they have the money but dont want to wait for appointments, they’re free to go get private healthcare.
2019-06-17 23:15
yah that is basically how it works in Germany. I don't see any benefit to the bright population there, the best doctors, the better therapies, the more regular checks and more medical effort will go into the people with money which essentially is creating inequality. How could you ethically prefer this method?
2019-06-17 23:21
If universal healthcare were to be implemented here, private healthcare basically has to stay as well due to the status quo that has stayed for decades here which those working in either of the status quo will refuse to simply vanish and potentially lose their jobs.
2019-06-17 23:39
Yah that is just what I said in my first comment. I know that it makes sense for the United States as a functioning state. Still it does not appear to me why anyone would want it as there ethically ideal system.
2019-06-17 23:46
Simple: it’s impatience and/or how ingrained it is for some.
2019-06-17 23:48
#51
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United States SS_imP 
I'm sorry that neither of your parents had a job, and that you grew up poor that you never had access to good insurance. You're retarded if you think universal healthcare should be a thing you twat. Why the fuck would you want to pay extra to keep someone who never did anything worth a damn, from paying for their own needs?
2019-06-17 23:42
oh im not poor you imbecile. And paying thousands just for something simple? Thats just outrageous. I could be using that money for bills, rent, and shit I need like food. So why dont you think before blurting out and making assumptions like a retard? Yeah I figured.
2019-06-17 23:54
because people "who never did anything worth a damn" are still human beings and thus deserve to get medical care. People don't deserve to die from cancer just because they don't have a job
2019-06-18 04:58
#58
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United States SS_imP 
You need to stop being so soft. Grow a fucking spine. This world is survival of the fittest.
2019-06-18 04:59
letting people die = being tough. Nice.
2019-06-18 05:02
#61
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Denmark sNju 
Who the fuck told you survival of the fittests applies to humans? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. I bet I can find flaws in you or your family that would mean that they should die, by your logic. Healthcare should be 100% free for everyone. It is in most of Europe, and it works fucking amazing. Doctors and nurses are literally heroes, and I love paying my taxes so others can be taken care of. I have only been to the hospital a few times with minor sports injuries, like sprained ankles, punctured lung, etc. and nothing more serious like people getting cancer treament etc. And noone in my family has anything serious, so I'm most likely never going to be a burden for society. Ontop of that I am going to pay a lot more in taxes than most people will, in their life. But I love my country so much, and I love the way we take care of the weak nomatter what. We have a strong connection because of this solidarity that we're all born with. We don't try and pull others down so we can get ahead ourselves. That's not beneficial for the overall good of the country.
2019-06-18 05:14
#63
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United States SS_imP 
lmao what a beta. Why do you care about random people? You shouldn't. Someone who is a doctor, and made something of themselves, shouldn't be equal to a fast food worker.
2019-06-18 05:44
#64
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Denmark sNju 
You might be too stupid to understand that there's not room for all of us to be doctors. My succes is directly linked with someone else not having it. Not all girls are beautiful, so we can't all have a beautiful wife. Why should those with an ugly wife be worth less than those with a beautiful wife? Judging someone by the time they spent in school, or how much money they have, is just stupid. We're all human beings and you can be just as good a person if you're poor than if you were rich. And to be honest, you sound like the beta here. Your insecurities are so fucking obvious it's almost laughable. You're probably the kind of guy that would go away from a bleeding stranger, because fuck that guy, and fuck getting blood on your clothes. You know what? Fuck you, and fuck people like you.
2019-06-18 06:37
#68
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United States SS_imP 
There's nothing wrong with judging people, especially if they are lower than you in class. Of course I'd walk away from a bleeding stranger, I don't know them, so why should I care? It's not my problem. You're a pussy.
2019-06-18 06:57
#78
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Denmark sNju 
I hope you're a baiting little kid, because if that is really how you feel, then you are missing out on a lot.
2019-06-18 09:26
#96
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United States SS_imP 
Absolutely not.
2019-06-18 19:16
so if you saw a random guy bleeding in the street, needing help or medical assistance you would just walk away bcs you dont know him? what a fkin asshole
2019-06-27 23:53
#143
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United States SS_imP 
Yes? Fuck him
2019-06-28 04:41
U probably wonder why no one likes u
2019-06-28 00:01
#86
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Other nt_newfag 
if we didnt care about random people we wouldnt have a society you idiot
2019-06-18 10:50
#97
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United States SS_imP 
That's not how that works. Do you think Trump gives a flying fuck about me? Of course not.
2019-06-18 19:18
so·ci·o·path noun a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
2019-06-18 22:49
#110
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United Kingdom XNL 
+1
2019-06-18 23:20
Jesus christ, you're too proud dude. Get down to the fucking earth and start looking at the people around you, and not just yourself.
2019-06-27 23:50
#142
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United States SS_imP 
No, I don't think I will.
2019-06-28 04:41
Dude, there's a reason Denmark is a nicer place to live in than America, and it's because most people in Denmark think like you do. I used to be a pretty nice person (not super nice, but pretty a decent person), but it really doesn't get you anywhere here so I've become a lot meaner over time. So many Americans are actual sociopaths or at least act like it, nice and passive people are seen as targets for exploitation. In America the best way to act is relatively polite, but with a bit of rudeness so people know you're not an easy target.
2019-06-18 07:19
#80
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Denmark sNju 
From visiting USA I got a completely different view of how Americans are. I pretty much only met nice and friendly people.
2019-06-18 09:27
Lmao Everyone is nice to your face dude. Your experience on a vacation doesn't reflect reality. America is probably the only first world country where homeless is a real possibility if you fail in life. Of course that breeds competition among people, it's only natural. Most Americans are very polite to your face, but would have no issue betraying you to get ahead. If you think I'm bullshitting you, sociopaths and psychopaths are far more likely to be in positions of power in American society. You can look this up if you don't believe me.
2019-06-18 09:43
#85
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Denmark sNju 
But why is that a good thing? Why not try and improve, and make sure society has a good safety net? Because that will stop people from trying to get ahead nomatter the cost.
2019-06-18 10:43
Dude's that's like telling people in third world countries something like,"why don't you just build nice roads and houses?". It's just how it is and I don't see it changing anytime soon, you get used to it after a while anyway. It is nice if you actually manage to succeed. I don't think it's a terrible system, it does reward work in a way. To be honest I've been exaggerating the problem. There is definitely a get ahead no matter what mentality though.
2019-06-18 11:06
#91
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Denmark sNju 
Ofc there's a getting ahead mentality in Europe too. Difference is just that we don't throw poor people in the dirt while doing it. And it's literally not like building roads. It's like looking at what works elsewhere, and learning from it. We do it all the time, in Europe. That's also a big part of why we are so developed. You can test 50 ways of doing things here, and pick what works for you.
2019-06-18 13:04
Even if they inherited their money, most Americans feel like they "earned" their money and no poor person deserves it. It's a mentality. Oh yeah I was half asleep when I was writing half of this stuff, most Americans don't act like sociopaths lmao. I do still think people from other countries are way more relaxed when it comes to trying to get ahead.
2019-06-18 17:44
#117
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Denmark sNju 
Yeah that's true. But that's because in Denmark you can have a dream about being a nurse, and people will think you're great for following a dream. People won't look at you and say "but then you only make $50k/year, who would want that?". There's much less focus on status for a lot of people in Europe imo. - it's more about doing what you love, than becoming rich. And then there's some that want to be rich ofc, and good for them, they will probably just wake up some day and realize that money didn't make them happier.
2019-06-20 07:42
Lmao Nurses in America make like 90k-100k, or more because of how expensive American healthcare is. But, yeah I get your point, I feel like people in other countries are way less concerned with money. Since 1989 the wealth of the top 1% of Americans went up by 21 trillion dollars, the bottom 50% declined by 900 billion dollars The bottom 50% of the country now has a combined net worth of negative 0.2 trillion dollars.
2019-06-20 08:15
#119
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Denmark sNju 
Average nurse salary in the US is $73k. Still kinda insane that you get that much. It's $53k in Denmark. And driving instructors make nothing in the US. Here you can make $100-150k.
2019-06-20 08:18
Lmao seriously 100k for teaching driving? What's the catch, you need a PhD or something? Oh, I thought we were talking about end career salary, most nurses start at around 55k, end at around 90k-100k.
2019-06-20 08:21
#125
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Denmark sNju 
You need a pedagogical (??) course, drivers license for A, B, C and C-E. (Motorcycle, Car, Truck and Truck with trailer). And you need a clean driving record for.. I think it's 2 years without anything serious like DUI's etc. There's a high demand, and very few people do it because you have to pay for everything yourself, and it can be quite hard. I nailed the first exam in the first try, but a few of the people there was on their 3rd attempt, and if you fail 3rd attempt, you have to wait 5 years. There's exams every 6 months. It's very expensive to get a drivers license in Denmark. It's minimum $2500. You need 29 theory lessons, 24 driving lessons (9 on a special course). Each lesson is 45 min.
2019-06-20 10:55
Wow, that's a lot of training and qualifications. I completely agree with it though, traffic accidents are a huge cause of death in the US. There needs to be higher standards for testing and higher standards for driving instruction. I wish we had a system like yours tbh...
2019-06-20 11:00
#121
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Denmark MeToxi 
A driving instructor doesn't get anywhere near $100k?
2019-06-20 09:25
#123
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Denmark sNju 
Are you asking me? Yes, you can make $100k/year. The lowest paid 37hr/week I've heard is 35k DKK/month, and hard working independent instructors work for other schools, or run their own, and make double that. My motorcycle instructor made around 1000 DKK/hour. I'm done with my motorcycle instructor license in 2020.
2019-06-20 10:45
#127
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Denmark MeToxi 
It seems like you're right. An article from 2013 says the average according to Danmarks Statistik is 50k dkk, approximately $90k usd a year. That is actually insane.
2019-06-20 11:03
#128
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Denmark sNju 
If you work 46 weeks/year, 40 hours/week, that's 1840 hours/year. Depending on how good you are, how good a deal you get, if you use your own car etc, you can bill schools 300-400 DKK/hr. 1840 hrs * 350 = 644.000 DKK. Why do you think so many driving instructors drive around in expensive cars ;-)
2019-06-20 11:15
#129
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Denmark MeToxi 
Never really tought about it tbh.
2019-06-20 11:23
#134
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Denmark sNju 
No worries. Don't tell anyone btw. - less competition = higher prices :-D
2019-06-20 11:55
We're already way past that. If anything, our massive welfare system is getting in the way of "survival of the fittest". People with no means or job are having as many kids as they want. We're way better off diverting all that money toward healthcare. We should be selecting for intelligence, not ability to survive easily curable illnesses. America won't be better off with a bunch of unintelligent people that are somewhat immune to diseases that are easily curable.
2019-06-18 07:12
dont call me an idiot you incel
2019-06-17 23:23
then how about trash?
2019-06-17 23:36
atleast i can justify my opinions instead of being a le epic centrists
2019-06-17 23:38
justify? your so called justifications are random shit that comes from your own mind. And when someone is against them, you turn on your bigotedness like an idiot.
2019-06-17 23:40
no its normally based in studys and my axiomatic beliefs
2019-06-17 23:40
#81
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Japan @0x0 
No one realises is that the reason European healthcare is so cheap is because America soaks up the profits of creating and discovering new drugs
2019-06-18 09:30
#122
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Denmark MeToxi 
Thats where you're somewhat wrong. The US have a lot more money to spend because they have a lot more people paying taxes. But other countries is also contributing a lot to medical research so to say that the US does the majority/all is outright wrong.
2019-06-20 09:32
#135
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Japan @0x0 
Lol the US money on drug research is from the private sector not the public sector retard US does far more than Europe
2019-06-25 05:03
#136
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Denmark MeToxi 
I figured as much, but we also have private medical firms in europe who also does a lot of research. To say that the US does it all would still be ignorant. Sure, the US does a lot but so does the rest of the world.
2019-06-25 08:35
#144
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Japan @0x0 
Without America your "free" healthcare would be more expensive/worse quality British healthcare is appallingly bad, takes months and you cannot choose your doctor, were you a female rape victim and feel uncomfortable being naked around a male doctor? Too bad you can't change your GP
2019-06-28 06:52
#3
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Palestine FREE_PALESTINE 
private + "free" hc
2019-06-17 17:06
+1
2019-06-17 17:06
+1
2019-06-17 17:07
#9
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United States UnitedEurope 
+1
2019-06-17 17:12
#65
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Faroe Islands Josuke 
+1
2019-06-18 06:49
Everyone should have healthcare but if you can afford private whats it to me
2019-06-17 17:07
#7
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Free for everyone brother.
2019-06-17 17:07
#8
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United States UnitedEurope 
You are stupid, that's what I see from this convo
2019-06-17 17:12
#11
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
+1
2019-06-17 17:17
#12
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Canada ProvexPyker 
+1
2019-06-17 17:49
+1
2019-06-17 23:10
They are both stupid.
2019-06-17 23:12
HEY :(
2019-06-17 23:23
its the Truf
2019-06-17 23:24
im not stupid :(
2019-06-17 23:24
Normally I wouldnt have said that your positions are both stupid but since #8 framed it a different way, I went with it for claritys sake
2019-06-17 23:26
well i just dont like the idea of private healthcare tbh, if i were to implement a system private healthcare would be a thing, just no tax cuts or incentives
2019-06-17 23:27
But thats not what you argued and if you had written that you wouldnt have made yourself look like an irrational leftie.
2019-06-17 23:28
cuse the guy im arguing with doesn't care about that, hes just asking me odd questions about fucking homeless people and if they deserve to live. like i dont care to give nuance to a guy like that
2019-06-17 23:31
... if you dont actually want to conversate with the guy coz he is a dogmatic idiot, you instead choose to make yourself look more dumb?
2019-06-17 23:32
ya if you boil it down, but im mainly just not in the mood at the time to deal with him so id rather look retarded then actually go into some shit he cant even talk about
2019-06-17 23:33
now thats definitely stupid makes all the lefties look bad. This time its not the right-wingers making their little "libtard destroyed" out of context shitpost clips that they make to circlejerk and reaffirm their bubble, NO, this time its you handing it to them on a silver platter by taking an easily attackable stupid position and then literally making a THREAD about it. Good fucking Job. >:|
2019-06-17 23:36
ya its definitely not helpful to the cause, and i understand that.but i dont take this approach with people i think are not 1. arguing in bad faith or 2. will never change their minds no matter how much evidence or arguments you give them. its a dumb thing to do and iv tried to stop doing it but when you talk to so many of these retards its hard
2019-06-17 23:38
both were moronic as fuck.
2019-06-17 23:15
+9 had the exact same thought
2019-06-17 23:24
#43
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Tunisia Respecc 
+1
2019-06-17 23:34
+1
2019-06-18 04:44
#87
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Other nt_newfag 
+1
2019-06-18 10:52
#10
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
Everyone paying taxes then everyone getting healthcare and education, allow the poorest people to get decent healthcare and education
2019-06-17 17:15
#17
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Mexico LEWORb 
Yes, I agree, it's like in Mexico. But it's not decent, it actually sucks but it's better than nothing
2019-06-17 23:09
#77
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
Yes, at least you allow the people who need the most to get out of a difficult situation or at least allow their children to have more equal chance to have a decent situation in his futur than a children who have parent who can bring him whatever he need
2019-06-18 08:26
#92
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Mexico LEWORb 
Yeah, social services are needed, let's hope they get better
2019-06-18 14:44
#93
ZywOo | 
Europe PowwneD 
The problem is when the government don't put enough efforts in the quality of the public system, the people will criticize the services because the quality is downgrading without enough money then they ask to close it. That's what happens is France rn, the government doesn't do shit to make the public services performing.
2019-06-18 16:47
#94
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Mexico LEWORb 
Damn, that's a problem. I Mexico the public system is really bad, it has become a meme. but it's better than nothing so we are not asking for it to close
2019-06-18 17:04
#13
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
Private + free
2019-06-17 22:09
#16
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Mexico LEWORb 
Private and paid by the government The private is usually better, so the rich go with private and that means the public one doesn't have to take care of them.
2019-06-17 23:13
The private is usually much more expensive
2019-06-17 23:18
#26
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Mexico LEWORb 
Yeah, so really rich people can afford it. Fewer responsibilities for the government.
2019-06-17 23:20
Oh, I misunderstood what you said, sorry
2019-06-17 23:31
public healthcare only
2019-06-17 23:11
Universal healthcare + possible private option
2019-06-17 23:12
to not have universal healthcare is stupid but not giving ppl that make more the chance to have private healthcare is also stupid
2019-06-17 23:22
dont appropriate my thread, atleast give me credit
2019-06-17 23:24
Free health care is very important because nobody should have their life fucked up because they are unlucky enough to catch a disease.
2019-06-17 23:25
#54
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Germany shimmy227 
we see how many problems our public health-care system has. we should gradually privatise it until it's gone, so people can adopt to it, while cutting taxes. that's also my opinion on every other "free" state service. at the end we should abolish the government all together. unfortunatley we see the opposite trend right now and the state seems to raise dependent, socialism orientated generations
2019-06-17 23:46
#62
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Denmark sNju 
And I find that idea sickening. Luckily there's more people like me. Much more. Go live in America for a few years, and you can see how this fucks up the life for a lot of unlucky people. Sure, most people are lucky and their family stays healthy, but then someone loses his job w/ health insurance, and boom, someone gets sick and they lose everything.
2019-06-18 05:19
#66
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Faroe Islands Josuke 
They have insurance
2019-06-18 06:49
#79
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Denmark sNju 
"loses his job w/ health insurance"
2019-06-18 09:27
#104
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Germany shimmy227 
i don't understand your statement. what's bad about having an insurance while being sick? (if a father can't work anymore, that's bad for sure for his family) people will learn that they need a private health insurance. people who are too dumb to make an insurance will get help, in the worst case for a little fee. if they still have no insurance and they get sick, they can ask people around them or private charity organisations. a minimal state might provide support in the worst cases. today we have a massive social state but still people are homeless etc., it's not like the system works very well. the usa also has not much lower taxes than european states, if they would have lower taxes people could prevent those disasters by saving and making insurances, e.g. in case of sudden unemployment because of sickness. state services are always worse than public ones and cost more (!), people just don't realize that. if you won't have to pay 60%+ taxes you will have enough money for insurances and can also donate to help sick/ unemployed people. people need to realise that they don't have to take the compromise of being governed and robbed for getting safety and care in time of need. and the individuals around you are also not that bad the government and socialists want you to tell you. they tell you you need protection of evil companies, but unlike the state a salesman can't force you to pay for his service. it's just tools to make you more dependent on the state, cut freedom and destroy the free-market and your prosperity
2019-06-18 21:34
#116
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Denmark sNju 
There's nothing wrong with an insurance. There's something wrong with the fact that you need an insurance to survive. I also have insurance on my car, apartment, motorcycle, kids, etc etc, and I have an accident insurance, so I get paid more to cover stuff that our hospital can't fix, like massages if my back hurts, so I can get back to work faster. But it's not like in the US where they have people that literally only check if you have insurance and can pay for your treatment. If you can't you're fucked. You sound like you have no fucking clue how the US works. The number of homeless people in the US is insane. And their taxes are like half of our taxes, wtf are you even talking about? I don't mind paying high taxes. I honestly don't. Obviously I also demand that my tax money is being handled properly, and that they're not being abused. But I still can live a very good life even after I pay over half my salary to the government. What you misunderstand is that a government is not robbing you of anything, it's exactly the opposite. Let's take two very vital infrastructures as example 1 and 2. 1) internet infrastructure: In Denmark the government controlled the entire internet infrastructure, and paid for very good copper lines pretty much everywhere. Everything was good, Denmark was at the forefront of technology, giving citizens cutting edge internet options. Then they privatized it, and what does a private company do, that control the entire fucking infrastructure? They milked the fuck out of it. We STILL have copper shit in pretty much all of Copenhagen and the area around it, because it's still controlled by the same company. And now Denmark is falling behind on internet access, AND prices. 2) Water infrastructure: 100% government controlled, paid by taxes etc etc. We spend a lot of money on it, and as a result, every citizen in Denmark has access to fresh water, and not just fresh water, but the cleanest tap water in the world. You have to remember who the government is. They're a representation of the entire population. They work for your best interest. A company work for profit, and nothing else. Companies on the stock market is even forced by law to make profit. They can only do things that will directly or indirectly increase their profit, or people will go to jail.
2019-06-20 07:34
#59
Portugal tc91 
Free Healthcare of course, if i have to pay taxes at least it's for something good.
2019-06-18 05:00
#67
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
Hahaha. The fact you think you were making a sound argument there is just hilarious. "Oh hurrdurr, so if you break your right leg and a homeless guy breaks his left leg, who gets treatment first? axaxaxax" I'm guessing you just don't have a single empathetic bone in your body then, eh? Here's the one main defining difference between left vs right: we actually give a shit. *Gasp*, such horror...
2019-06-18 06:54
honestly couldn't fucking take this guy seriously , didn't even try and explain shit to him. beyond fucking retarded
2019-06-18 07:01
#89
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United Kingdom xTheDeadPixel 
Oh yeah definitely. I gave up with this guy months ago when they tried to make a case for feudalism and dictatorship. Just a straight-up ass-backwards kind of person.
2019-06-18 11:00
#98
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
I never talked about feudalism? Lol Getting facts from your ass as usual? So lefty
2019-06-18 21:04
Sorry, Austrian flair threw me off. That was someone else. You have however made cases for dictatorship, so...there's that...
2019-06-18 22:43
Basic Healthcare for everyone paid for with taxes, everyone can extend his insurance with private healthcare as much as he wants/needs
2019-06-18 07:02
#83
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United States Acehavok 
But expand to what exactly? So single payer only covers 1 kidney? But I want 2 kidneys so I’ll get supplemental coverage? Doesn’t make sense. The only thing I could think of is if you want some hippie bullshit treatment that’s a placebo or some plastic surgery.
2019-06-18 09:43
#111
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United Kingdom XNL 
The American healthcare system is so broken you don't understand how a healthcare system should work. By extend to private it means shorter wait times and potentially better doctors etc.
2019-06-18 23:25
In my country people who offically work with papers at this time are qualified for getting cheap healthcare, if not than enjoy paying 1/4 of average sallary for 1x-ray pic
2019-06-18 07:11
Anyone that pays taxes should have healthcare, but people who have the money should be able to pay for private/"better" healthcare.
2019-06-18 07:20
#75
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
But if a guy does not pay taxes?
2019-06-18 07:20
Then no healthcare
2019-06-18 21:16
#101
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
Sounds logical, doesn't it? You don't work - you don't eat
2019-06-18 21:21
Yes? No one is born deserving anything enless they work for it.
2019-06-18 21:22
#103
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
But those lefties think otherwise lol And you know what? Those are the same people that think a fetus is not a human being and it can be aborted at any time when the woman feels like to AND also people who think you deserve healthcare since you are born
2019-06-18 21:28
#114
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Not at any time, it's a small time frame where it can be done.
2019-06-18 23:45
#112
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United Kingdom XNL 
That's a bit of a broken logic. Someone may be out of a job due to redundancy etc. does that mean they're not entitled to free healthcare?
2019-06-18 23:27
If you are actively working/looking for a job you should be good,
2019-06-19 01:16
#76
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Europe SadPuppet 
if you work officially in our country you have "free" healthcare. But I prefer paid for private clinic when I need surgery couple weeks ago. Basic health care at Slovakia sucks !
2019-06-18 07:34
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United States Acehavok 
I’m fine with “free public + private.” The only problem is private won’t be able to compete if the government sets it up correctly. Current Medicare has lower administrative costs, there’s no profit, plus they want to make it so Medicare can negotiate drug prices. There’s really no way for private insurance to win unless they make it so there’s exclusive facilities (like there are now) however they’d have to raise prices because now they’re going to have less customers. It’s going to be impossible to survive unless they become a non-profit which is a big LUL for U.S. companies. The only problem I have with public+private is that if everyone has public insurance basically all facilities will have to accept it which would be nice and would avoid patient wait times. There’d still be a few completely private places for the super rich but we can’t access them now anyways.
2019-06-18 09:40
ofc free hc + private optional, like it already is in germany. how dumb can a single person even be to debate about it.
2019-06-18 10:58
#99
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
Those lazy-asd commies only want "free" healthcare.
2019-06-18 21:06
Tax funded public healthcare (what you call free I believe) but not covering cosmetic care not caused by external cause. Exemple : any disease care : covered by public healthcare plastic surgery after a car accident : covered by public healthcare plastic surgery to change you nose just because you don't like it : not covered by public healthcare (so you pay full cost)
2019-06-18 21:33
This. It works fine. A country is a big community afterall.
2019-06-28 00:10
public hc (aka "FREE") is better for regular people but if you suffer with some rare disease you have higher chance of making in private hc because the doctors are usually the best of the best in their field btw private doesnt mean that homeless people, addicts and illegals dont get treated, they do and you still pay for it one way or the other
2019-06-18 21:44
Priv + free ofc, why shuld you disable any one?
2019-06-18 21:46
#113
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United Kingdom XNL 
Everyone should be entitled to free healthcare, but there should also be the option for private healthcare. Simple, everyone is happy.
2019-06-18 23:29
whole family has private healthcare and the best part about it u can just make an appointment and don'T have to wait in a room of 1000 other ppl for the rest it's the same. but im lucky i never need to go to hospital or doctor anyway.
2019-06-20 10:51
"Yes beucase they shouldnt die becusee their job doesnt offer them healthcare" everything has been said
2019-06-20 11:25
This guy you had conversation with is fucking retarded trolling leftist. dont argue with this bot
2019-06-20 11:31
expected from angry "12iq" polak
2019-06-20 11:34
taxes suck
2019-06-20 11:39
#141
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Japan kitzune 
healthcare should be free and immediately available for anyone at anytime for any medical reason, cheap or expensive. thats the mark of a 1st world country
2019-06-28 00:13
#145
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Germany xsyzzz123 
wtf tf bumped this 2 weeks old thread
2019-06-28 07:01
#146
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Canada ProvexPyker 
You could have checked by pressing the "most recent comment" button
2019-06-28 07:07
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