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AUG dead?
chrisJ | 
Netherlands El_CaPiTaN 
So valve just nerfed the Aug, less accurate AND less fire rate, do you think ppl will still buy it or will it go back to old days where literally nobody buys it
2019-06-19 01:28
#1
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Europe Vallon3 
Lol you fucking kidding? Nobody will even consider it for a second. Back to the same old 3-gun-meta that has existed since the middle ages, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking boring. Volvo idiots.
2019-06-19 01:29
Yeah, I rlly liked the Aug add, and maybe it was a little op but they don't have to kill it instantly, just a little nerf would be fine but they go ahead and ruin the game by unfixing what they fixed, complete idiots over there at VW
2019-06-19 01:31
Wait and see first. The gun will probably still be bought for certain positions, but it won't be the best option for almost every case like it is right now.
2019-06-19 01:35
This is valve we're talking about, a gun is either going to be extremely overpowered or completely useless (tec-9, revolver, aug, m4a1)...
2019-06-19 02:39
Valve doesn't understand how to balance their own game. If you want to argue against this, explain to me how nerfing its unscoped accuracy makes any sense at all? I feel like they just nerf random aspects of a weapon and hope it works out.
2019-06-19 03:33
#58
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Canada zizzle21 
should've just nerfed fire rate slightly and made it 3,500
2019-06-19 03:45
it makes sense because that is the only way to make m4 better in some situations without making aug completely useless in every situation the case is that valve simply dont have the ability to create weapons that differ enough from each other that they can both be better in certain situations without artificial balance adjustments like this. a simple way to do this would be to add a rifle that isnt full auto and performs better on long range but has the disadvantage that you cant spray on short range when someone wide peeks you. or make the aug more like the SG where it has vertical recoil variance, like it was in 2016, so you actually need to tap when you fight on long range. highest first bullet accuracy in game + low inaccuracy buildup with scope + 0 recoil variance = OP gun.
2019-06-19 13:02
The reason Valve can't do that is because they barely understand this game. Rifles are just too good in every scenario, it makes shotguns irrelevant.
2019-06-19 20:41
now that shotguns arent random anymore i think those could be used more as well
2019-06-19 20:43
There still is the 600 dollars more per kill, a much lesser price tag and I think on extremely short ranges they're still the king while it's even useless to compare anything after that when we're talking about shotties. Just need to keep it as short range as possible or resort to secondary.
2019-06-19 20:49
I feel like pistols are always superior to something like the nova. Even an SMG is preferable tbh.
2019-06-19 22:26
To me, it's still completely viable. A bit harder to control but works just fine with short sprays even without scope.
2019-06-19 20:45
I have tried it now since posting this forum, they spray is definitely not as bad as I thought, I think it's actually a great nerf, the fire rate is what makes me go for M4 fulltime tho, Imo it just feels very very slow compared to other rifles, I guess for some it's still viable but Imo there is no reason to buy over M4
2019-06-19 20:48
Yeah, don't need it over the M4 except maybe train and a few other scenarios where it's nice to have. Good nerf tho.
2019-06-19 20:53
Most probably its all about me but as Pronax said, aug meta doesn't feel like playing cs, at least the old traditional cs that you enjoy with its LAN games, tournaments etc. New changes made me feel relaxed and blissful ^^
2019-06-20 05:39
hell yeah now we can see people cry about aug nerf when they were crying about it being too op, thanks valve.
2019-06-19 01:50
+1
2019-06-19 02:22
Oh wow, that sure was a mess, at least Valve learned from their mistakes and wont make a superpowered gun like that again!
2019-06-19 02:35
hope this is sarcasm
2019-06-19 03:25
hope you've seen ur parodys
2019-06-19 12:58
nice englando fakeflag
2019-06-19 13:05
wdym im not british im canadian nice fakeflag of a country that doesn't even exist prokda
2019-06-19 14:05
#65
2019-06-19 14:15
#43
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Europe aNCIOn 
aug was boring as shit. trash weapon doesnt belong in the game
2019-06-19 02:36
#82
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Peru AgentLF 
Emm, 1.6?
2019-06-20 04:53
it was way to easy to play. if you like easy weapon handling go to cod. m4-ak balance was way better anyways
2019-06-19 03:33
+1
2019-06-20 23:15
I did not even see this update I think it will still be used on maps like Overpass and Nuke, where long-range battles would be easier using zoom.
2019-06-19 01:32
In fact, no one is going to change. The AUG spray is still simpler than the M4 spray, so I guess to prevent it from being used just by increasing it.
2019-06-19 01:35
I just played it and imo its horrible. maybe I just have to get used to it idk.
2019-06-19 02:23
LUL, was it that bad? I have not tested it yet. EDIT: ERROR FIX
2019-06-19 02:41
I feel very weird with it, and I played a lot with the Aug I just dont have the feeling from the Aug anymore :D feels way better to shoot with the m4 now cuz its way faster
2019-06-19 02:37
Ty :D
2019-06-19 02:40
hopefully it is gone, the only people who want the aug in the game are ones who get 3 kills pr half w/o it
2019-06-19 01:35
Like Astralis?
2019-06-19 01:41
almost like they dominated a whole year w/o the aug, ence only came to prominence once the aug was meta tho :)
2019-06-19 02:15
#28
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Europe Cirro 
Actually true lmao
2019-06-19 02:20
lol rekt
2019-06-19 02:24
"only people who want the aug in the game are ones who get 3 kills pr half w/o it" Astralis know from 5 man Aug usage, If you want to compare Ence to Astralis when it comes to weapon choice, Astralis is more likely to choose it
2019-06-20 19:30
finland cant read
2019-06-20 19:48
toxic
2019-06-20 23:14
RIP daps getting kills.
2019-06-19 01:39
HAHAHAHAHA LAMAOAAOAOAOAOAOA MAAIHAAHAH aha aah aa
2019-06-19 01:41
lol
2019-06-19 01:49
Lmao so sad
2019-06-19 02:25
karrigan too
2019-06-19 02:48
NEO
2019-06-19 08:56
#8
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United States k3ar 
I tested it. I think this nerf is as noticeable as the m4a1-s fire rate nerf. The fact that it's more inaccurate while unscoped as well. Might see it drop.
2019-06-19 01:39
This update is actually retarded. Why would they kill off the AUG completely? Typical Valve dumbasses not knowing how to balance their own shit again. Literally they didn't even touch the SG, which is insane now compared to the AUG. CT meta is going to immediately be back to strict M4/AWPing, while T's get a free walk in the park with the SG now. Seriously, it's like the AUG is a fucking pocket CZ with 30 bullets now; WTF were they thinking? "Slightly" was not the right fucking words for this nerf.
2019-06-19 01:41
got any hard stats for the aug nerf? in curious
2019-06-19 01:49
No one has them unless they're miners or whatever probably, but the AUG shoots at what seems to be roughly 600~ RPM while both scoped and unscoped. There's a 2 second delay for inaccuracy upon shooting while scoped, not tested for unscoped shooting, but while the scope is settling you'll be anywhere from RNG accurate to mainly unaccurate as Hell. The unscoped spray resembles a CZ's full clip spray; it's horrible. Same with scoped upon shooting without extremely strict windows between spraying.
2019-06-19 02:18
aug spray w/o scope has always felt weird as fuck for me. does it just have more random deviation or what?
2019-06-19 02:21
AUG spray without scope was literally almost the same as the AK. Probably only felt weird to you cause you were used to scoping simply cause it's there
2019-06-19 13:21
You can't compare the SG to the AUG though, the scope is sooo much more useful on CT-side and the AUG spray is 10 times easier to control than the SG. There's a reason why like 80-90% of pros still use the AK since its impossible to spray as well as an AK with an unzoomed SG. The scope isn't that useful on the T-side since you are the aggressor rather than the defender just scoping in and holding angles, you can't go around corner and quickly clear angles while zooming with the SG and while being unzoomed the AK is superior.
2019-06-19 02:45
Yeah, I never forgot that point, but my point was now the T's are going to have a stupid big advantage now regardless. Personally, I have no issue scoping while peeking corners cause I've been using BOTH scoped guns since like 2015, and I can see why pros are hesitant to step into the SG's realm, but they're just being pussies. The SG is a fucking killer and I constantly make people upset using it. Swinging an angle with the SG and its insane accuracy is ridiculously easy when you've been doing it for years, which honestly it's the pros' faults for not experimenting with the tools given to them. I expected better than a hivemind mentality from them in the first place.
2019-06-19 03:23
Your experience in mm/faceit is not the same as the top pro scene. In terms of unscoped (which you have to be a lot of the times) the SG553 in inferior to the AK, even if the pros spend tons of times perfecting their SG spray they won't get as good as their AK because 1. They have gotten used to the AK spray for several years and 2. The SG spray is simply worse, you have to almost immediately control the spray heavily to the left which makes it A LOT harder to control the spray versus enemies moving and especially enemies moving to the right were as with the AK its basically just starting out with going down and then a smooth turn to the right which makes it easy tracking enemies even mid-spray. I don't understand what you see being the big advantage with the SG since the scope is far from as useful as on the CT and the unscoped version is simply worse than the AK. In what way does the SG have insane accuracy? Like what.?
2019-06-19 20:03
Yeah, you don't understand I suppose lmfao. Peace with that condescending shit.
2019-06-20 04:41
lmao, nothing to come with so you say that? Just because you're killing kids in gold nova 4 with it doesn't mean that it's going to be BROKEN and DOMINATE t-sides in the pro scene. You don't understand the game it seems.
2019-06-20 05:07
+1 also don't forget your movement speed with SG is slower, and even more so while scoping, making it worse than the AK for quick entry fragging. On entries that small movement cut is noticeable. If you're a 2nd-3rd entry it doesnt matter as much.
2019-06-19 13:22
I don't think it will die so ez, just less OP now than in past which is good.
2019-06-19 01:42
It's true it had to be less OP, just hope valve didn't go too far with the nerf, because it's a fun gun to use
2019-06-19 02:24
yeah, I guess tho they might reduce nerf if no one uses it anymore xd
2019-06-19 02:26
they won't, they will try, but the weapon will still be shit, and rip the only good ct rifle.
2019-06-20 05:31
aaaand back to old boring days with only 3 weapons - ak, awp and m4
2019-06-19 01:44
i can finally buy an aug chameleon skin for cheap after 60 weeks!!!!!
2019-06-19 01:48
very good news for skilled the players and a sad day for the human bots
2019-06-19 01:49
The firerate is the main reason why the original a1 nerf was too much. I don't mind the inaccuracy but the firerate is too much for the gun to actually be viable now. Back to a4
2019-06-19 01:50
#20
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
Bot Niko started to use it so they nerfed it
2019-06-19 01:52
AUG is a noob gun, don't @ me
2019-06-19 02:22
#37
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
Only 5 k with a regular rifles vs tyloo btw
2019-06-19 02:25
Are you smoking rn?
2019-06-19 02:26
#40
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
Flag checks out
2019-06-19 02:29
#21
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Jordan xrealx369 
Who said its dead?
2019-06-19 01:57
No I am asking, do you think it will die after this update?
2019-06-19 02:19
#60
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Jordan xrealx369 
I dont think so
2019-06-19 08:51
AUG now will suck 3330$ vs 3100 M4 less fire-rate only noobs now will use this gun
2019-06-19 02:00
It will still be a decent gun but not a crutch for every medicore player. They did it right.
2019-06-19 02:18
I dunno, I obv haven't played yet since the update, but I really like valve attempting to make more weapons viable in the game, I agree that it was indeed an OP gun but I'm afraid the nerf might be too extreme and the gun will disappear again. After all these years of playing cs the M4, AK, AWP meta was getting kinda boring and I really liked that both AUG and SG were getting used more, Imo they only had to make it less accurate just to make it less of a gun for bots
2019-06-19 02:21
Agreed. A harder to learn recoil pattern and slightly higher price (only 100) would have made enough difference to reconsider buying it over the M4. Valve should learn to do slight nerfs and buffs and see at which point the balance is right. As usual, they have the tendency to either over-buff or over-nerf
2019-06-19 13:24
#26
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Brazil vitorleza 
PLZ BRING BACK OLD AUG
2019-06-19 02:18
Flair checks out lul
2019-06-19 03:26
#47
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Romania themightyflea 
fire rate ok but rng sounds stupid
2019-06-19 02:40
Yup, zero point in playing it now.
2019-06-19 03:31
#53
FalleN | 
Brazil dmn1 
it was a stupid nerf, they should have just increased the price to $3700 or so
2019-06-19 03:30
#57
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Australia t0rrent 
+1
2019-06-19 03:39
ez now terrorist can abuse peekers advantage like the good ol days
2019-06-19 12:59
I'm sorry silvers and gn's, it had to be done. The more they made the AUG useless as f*ck, the better. I'm sick and tired of unskilled players holding easy angles (I'm talking to YOU, Dust 2 long camping car) and getting free 4 kills in a round. Give the same player an AWP or an M4 and they would kill 1 player at max before being traded into oblivion. Or worse, they wouldn't even choose that ridiculous camping spot at the first place. Sh*t, there is already a gun in the game made for scrub-like corridor holding for people that can't shoot straight, it's called SCAR-20.
2019-06-19 13:16
Yeah, but that costs 5000 dollars and noobs can't be bothered to eco for more money.
2019-06-20 04:58
#84
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Peru AgentLF 
Weapons require aim to kill. You can even ace with an usp or dualies Either way, there is still people who use the sg and aug, and there is no problem. Don't critize them because of their weapons choice. Pd: Play another map if you hate CT campers in D2
2019-06-20 04:58
you don't need aim when you're scoped in on an angle and hold it. that's why aug meta sucks.
2019-06-20 23:17
#69
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Korea XigNw0w 
Hopefully, no one buys it anymore.
2019-06-19 13:23
liquid dead
2019-06-20 05:09
sg not dead
2019-06-20 05:55
ppl will still buy it. At least for now they are still using it
2019-06-20 19:32
#92
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Israel Ystyg 
No
2019-06-20 19:33
#95
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Denmark Gryde 
no
2019-06-20 23:15
Dead as it should be.
2019-06-20 23:15
mm and faceit is still ruled by scoped aug meta.
2019-06-20 23:16
#100
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Russia TimSS 
No, aug is very good gun, but, nerf not needed
2019-06-20 23:20
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