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Carnivore Diet
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Latvia BionicRick 
Has anyone here tried a carnivore diet? It can consist of only meat or meat in combination with eggs and dairy. After doing some research, it seems like the healthiest diet out there. And it makes perfect sense, considering early humans were carnivores (relied entirely on meat for nutrition, only used plants as supplements for medical purposes etc.). It is also believed that our diet is what caused us to evolve our large brains and become extremely intelligent.
2019-06-20 15:58
#1
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
hello gatis hehe subscribe to sv3rige
2019-06-20 15:58
#2
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yeah, that guys is a bit crazy. I don't believe you need to eat all your meat raw and store water in the sunlight etc. He has some good points, which he gets from research papers, but some others are a bit extreme.
2019-06-20 15:59
"a bit crazy" is a massive understatement. dude is a complete nutjob. he thought that sungazing was healthy lmao and went to hospital because of it.
2019-06-20 16:10
#25
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Latvia BionicRick 
If I recall he was literally just trying everything, since he had some serious health issues. He also tried to be vegan which made things much worse.
2019-06-20 16:10
>has health issues >thinks trying gazing at the sun could help bruh...
2019-06-20 16:12
#258
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United Kingdom DreadN0ught 
being vegan never necessarily causes health issues so long as you make sure you have the right diet.
2019-07-01 20:51
#259
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Latvia BionicRick 
Never is a strong word. This girl and her husband got absolutely BTFOd by the vegan diet. youtube.com/watch?v=x_W_JK6BZFg
2019-07-01 20:52
#31
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
he is latvian btw also his gf is really cute
2019-06-20 16:14
He also believes in chemtrails, believes the earth is flat, did sungazing aka. looking directly at the sun until his eyes were hurt oh and he supposedly stabbed some children back in the days in school.
2019-06-30 05:59
lmao his laughs tho hehe
2019-06-20 16:13
ehehe
2019-06-20 19:15
#4
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Reunion 1iquser 
nuts are better
2019-06-20 16:01
#10
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Latvia BionicRick 
Not in terms of micronutrients. Those who follow the Paleo diet believe nuts are fine as long as you eat them only as fast as they would have been available in nature. Sames goes for fruit, eaten only when in season and small quantities.
2019-06-20 16:05
#12
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Reunion 1iquser 
yeah but, yeah you're right
2019-06-20 16:05
#281
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Hungary OwlOfMoist 
Don't they have a lot of oil in them?
2019-07-01 21:11
#5
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Asia B2o 
nah it makes the poop so dry and crispy
2019-06-20 16:01
#7
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Latvia BionicRick 
Ever consider that we aren't supposed to be pooping like 3x a day?
2019-06-20 16:03
who tf does that? i just go every other day and im fine
2019-06-20 16:39
#67
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Latvia BionicRick 
People who have a primarily plant based diet and fell for the fiber meme.
2019-06-20 16:40
i have mild ibs so that shit would be cancer lmfao
2019-06-20 16:41
You're supposed to be pooping as many times as you eat since your body (if it's healthy enough) excrete most of the food you eat (not only with pooping of course).
2019-06-20 21:46
#176
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Latvia BionicRick 
Most of the food is only excreted because western diets are horrible. When you eat a good diet as much as 80% of the food is assimilated.
2019-06-24 00:33
It's completely opposite actually, the better your diet is the easier your body excretes all unneeded stuff.
2019-06-25 20:43
#213
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Latvia BionicRick 
>unneeded stuff Did you even read what I said? When you eat a good diet there is very little "unneeded stuff". The fact that you poop substantially less on carnivore diet means more food is actually used by your body. I can only imagine the size of the shits you would take on a vegan diet (provided you're actually eating 2500 - 300 calories and not starving yourself, like most vegans).
2019-06-26 02:11
Do you even know what food consist of, lol? You poop less on carnivore diet because of lack of fiber and worse intestinal peristalsis. Amount of food absorbed by your body is a little, otherwise you'd grow like a bubble. Like very fat people do, and their excess food "absorbtion" (which is actually inability to effectively excrete unneeded stuff) has nothing to do with health.
2019-06-26 03:24
Not exactly, people become fat because their body takes in too much of the needed stuff such as sugars and fats and stores the excess as fat as opposed to eating the right amount and not storing too many excess calories as fat. Your body doesn't just decide to absorb things it can't digest, it's metabolically impossible. Fat people will excrete waste as well.
2019-07-01 22:59
Exactly, if you eat more "needeed stuff" than your body actually needs then excess "needed stuff" turns into "unneeded stuff". :) That's what I meant, not only stuff that your body won't absorb (like undisgestable fiber).
2019-07-02 06:46
Healthy stuff > rich in whatever the fuck your body needs > higher absorption and nutrient yield > excess is stored or excreted > you wont need to take a dump after every meal as long as you didn't eat 4 kgs of raw cellulose which we cant digest Western shit or anything we consider a bad meal > additives, preservatives, whatever that makes it tasty > we cant digest > most of that shit becomes feces and you're still hungry because capitalism > more poo breaks destroyed by facts and logic
2019-07-01 21:00
Cool story bro.
2019-07-01 21:00
This awakening guy is a massive vegan retard and he even bragged about being in a honeymelon-only-diet some time ago
2019-06-25 21:01
#214
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yikes, if that's true then it would explain why he replies to every comment with 0 scientific back up, trying to disprove things he knows nothing about.
2019-06-26 02:12
Hafthor_Julius_Bjornsson is a gay who tried to approach me but I rejected him and said him to fuck off, so he is still mad about it for 2 years, that's why he talks a lot of bullshit about me (and other people). Don't believe everything what you have been told, use your own brain.
2019-06-26 06:39
nice story bro, i guess the word delusional fits with veganism in every aspect
2019-06-26 09:17
do you eat it because you are from bad country who wants to come to EU?
2019-06-20 16:07
It makes absolutely no sense. Your arteries will be clocked faster than you can watch.
2019-06-20 16:04
#14
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
hahahahahahaha imagine actually believing this
2019-06-20 16:06
#19
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yes, fats are terrible for you, go drink some more soylent for optimal health.
2019-06-20 16:08
Consuming only animal foods and nothing else is the same like a balanced diet, yes, indeed!
2019-06-20 16:08
#27
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Latvia BionicRick 
Do some research instead of believing what people brainlessly regurgitate over and over again. Meat has every nutrient that our body needs, especially if you incorporate organs (e.g. liver).
2019-06-20 16:12
#118
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Iceland fatboislim 
it actually is a very well balanced diet.
2019-06-20 22:05
#179
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World ZMDR 
It is a balanced diet if you consume the entire animal. Organ meats can provide the vitamins that you normally get from plants.
2019-06-24 07:49
#54
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
not all fats are bad the eskimos have about 70% fat in their diet, however the artheroscleorsis is really rare there hypercholesteraemia is bad, some non-saturated fats are bad, but not all
2019-06-20 16:34
#60
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Latvia BionicRick 
I know, I was being sarcastic. On a carnivore diet about 70-80% of your calories should be from fat, and 20 - 30% from protein.
2019-06-20 16:36
fats are only bad mixed with carbohydrates ;) if you change your body to use fat as main source of energy rather than carbohydrates, you start to clean your body from fat.
2019-06-30 18:43
oh right you sarcastic , my bad xD
2019-06-30 18:44
it makes ur cum taste bad
2019-06-20 16:04
#16
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Latvia BionicRick 
I'm not a degenerate, therefore that's not an issue.
2019-06-20 16:07
u dont need any diet u fkin fool , just eat and if u dont feel good u don't eat that again. its plain simple.
2019-06-20 16:05
#15
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Latvia BionicRick 
Just because someone feels "good" eating cake 4x a day doesn't make that a viable option. Diet directly correlates to health.
2019-06-20 16:07
#22
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
So u usually feel good eating a cake 4x a day?
2019-06-20 16:09
#29
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Latvia BionicRick 
Asking the wrong person, I'm not 400lbs and constantly shoving cake in my face, but there are people like that. I don't think they'd be doing it if they weren't enjoying themselves.
2019-06-20 16:13
#34
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
They usually hate themselvey afterwards and eat due to depression and addiction, they are extreme cases when it's too late and obviously need help. But every normal person knows that balanced food intake is the key. Too much is always too much.
2019-06-20 16:15
#36
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Latvia BionicRick 
What does "balanced diet" even mean? Getting all the nutrients? Eating every type of food just because in the recent years people decided that's "balanced"? If our early ancestors were doing something wrong, we wouldn't be here today. We only started eating grains and loading up on carbs because it's cheaper and easier to feed a growing population that way. Our bodies are supposed to be in ketosis, which can only be achieved on none to very low carbs and high fat.
2019-06-20 16:17
#46
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Yes, meat, veggies, nuts, everything benefitial. Problem is processed food and amount of food. Idk why ppl keep over complicating it. Obviously someone is this or that intolerant but to experiment with some strict diets when you're perfectly ok? Idk
2019-06-20 16:26
#52
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Latvia BionicRick 
Most vegetables literally aren't beneficial. And fruits nowadays are genetically altered to be more sweet. If someone finds it difficult to follow a strict diet I guess berries and nuts in moderation can be okay, but they're not necessary.
2019-06-20 16:31
#62
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Can u give sources of this claim? They are full of vitamins and fiber. Although agree on the geneticly altered food, but it's almost everything now, even lab meat is on its way to be normalized, sad time we live in.
2019-06-20 16:37
#73
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Latvia BionicRick 
Haven't got any studies bookmarked, but this article is very well referenced and mentions how many vegetables actually do more harm than good. nutrita.app/guide-to-the-carnivore-diet/ If I can get the same vitamins from meat, but they're more bioavailable and don't come with a bunch of carbs, I'll take that option every time.
2019-06-20 16:45
#18
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
+1 dieting for average people is stupid.
2019-06-20 16:07
#26
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Even if so, nowadays industrially modified meat full of antibiotics and grow hormones is definitely not the same meat our ancestors ate. They ate it also in much smaller quantities and had much more physically demanding activity.
2019-06-20 16:13
#45
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Latvia BionicRick 
True, it is still possible to find higher quality meat, but it's very expensive. No proof about what quantities they ate, but typically people on the carnivore diet eat when hungry, and stop when satiated.
2019-06-20 16:25
#53
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Exactly to eat truly good quality healthy stuff you need to either raise your own cattle or be quite loaded. It's just my guess, since not every day was lucky hunt day I guess. Problem is meat is very heavy and takes long time for the body to completely process.
2019-06-20 16:32
#65
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Latvia BionicRick 
It's all about priorities, I rather spend a bit more on quality food than on eating out or buying other useless crap. Do you have any source on meat being harder to process? From what I've read it's similar, and much larger percentage of it is absorbed when compared to plants.
2019-06-20 16:39
ok try it and come talk to me after a year
2019-06-20 16:14
#43
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Latvia BionicRick 
There are people who have been doing it for 5+ years. Unlike vegans, they're completely fine.
2019-06-20 16:23
I'm vegan for 9.5 years already and more than fine, what's your point? Vegan diet, like any other diet basically, can be healthy or not healthy, it's all up to you.
2019-06-20 17:04
#103
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United Kingdom camzh 
veganism is a deficient diet, by definition it's unhealthy
2019-06-20 21:52
Yeah, I know I'm gonna die in few days.
2019-06-20 21:53
#105
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
you wont die, just slowly deteriorate
2019-06-20 21:53
I have been deteriorating for 9.5 years, it's time to die now.
2019-06-20 21:54
#107
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
keep eating grains and taking pills :) only sick people take pills
2019-06-20 21:55
I don't take any pills, lol.
2019-06-20 21:55
#109
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
so your not supplementing? fuck me your even more sick than I thought
2019-06-20 21:55
Yeah, I know I'm gonna die in few days... or now may be hours cuz I'm more sick than you thought.
2019-06-20 21:56
#112
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
enjoy being deficient in over 15 nutrients
2019-06-20 21:58
I enjoy it for almost 10 years, thanks.
2019-06-20 21:59
#114
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
yep enjoy, atleast all the animals you saved will still be alive :)
2019-06-20 21:59
Yes I do enjoy, thank you.
2019-06-20 22:01
I already ate them men)))
2019-06-30 18:52
You obviously know a lot about nutrition.
2019-06-20 22:07
#121
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
care to elaborate?
2019-06-20 22:07
Which 15 nutrients are you talking about?
2019-06-20 22:09
#127
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
both b6 versions, a, b12, d, f, k2, creatine, carnitine, carnosine, taurine, heme iron, coq10, cla etc
2019-06-20 22:12
It's possible to be a vegan without any nutrition deficiencies. If you live the right way, eat the right diet and live on the right spot, then you don't need to take any supplements. For most of the humans it's not possible tho.
2019-06-20 22:26
#136
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
the nutrients i listed arent found in plants at all. you litteraly need these nutrients to live thats why they sell supplements to vegans. you will not survive a vegan diet without supplementation
2019-06-20 22:44
deficient in over 15 nootrients!!
2019-06-20 22:56
> the nutrients i listed arent found in plants at all. you litteraly need these nutrients to live Ever heard about biosynthesis, lol? The only supplement vegans need is B12 if you prefer to believe in science.
2019-06-20 23:36
b6 is found in whole grains, seeds, leafy greens Vitamin-A: sweet-potatoes, carrots, leafy greens b12: We are taught to not touch our poop. Vitamin-D: You get it easily from the sun. during winter in Finland you need to take a supplement even if you are a meat eater. Omega3, 6(Vitamin-F): Seeds, nuts Vitamin-K2: K2 can be converted from K1, therefore leafy greens creatine: is produced and used by human body carnitine: same as creatine carnosine: also produced by the body. taurine: also... Heme Iron: It only differs from Non-Heme Iron by it's ability to absorb more effectively. So if you eat enough Non-Heme Iron plant sources, it will be fine. CoQ10: half a kilo of plant based foods will have the daily requirement. cla: there seem to be no daily requirement intake. etc ? ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/433816 Read more about the Tarahumaras, they mostly eat beans and corn.
2019-06-21 00:32
#150
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
read more about bioavailability and anti-nutrients, and im talking about B6 pyridoxamine and pyridoxal which are animal hormones, how are they in whole grains? wtf are you talking about with b12? are you trying to say its not important or something? people in countries with little sun light don't need pills when you can get high amounts of vitamin d3 in fish. Seeds and nuts only contain ALA, not DHA and EPA. Not relevant if our body produces carnitine etc.
2019-06-21 00:57
All necessary forms of b6, including pyridoxamine and pyridoxal can be interconverted in your body. I'm saying that there is plenty of b12 made in our colon that comes with our feces. We don't necessary have to eat them, but use them as fertilizer for plants. As long as you don't spray the plants with bacteria killing poisons you should get enough of b12. Where do you think other animals get their Vitamin-D from? FROM THE SUN. When there is no sun, even the animal flesh that you are eating is low in Vitamin-D. Most of the people are Vitamin-D deficient in northern countries. about Ala, DHA and EPA: youtube.com/watch?v=K9_2J6ONGng Again, your body can convert DHA and EPA from Ala, as long as you don't consume too much Omega-6 compared to Omega-3.
2019-06-21 01:46
#158
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
Again with this conversion shit, please look up bioavailability and anti nutrients Only 8% of ALA is converted to EPA and like 2% of the converted EPA is converted to DHA. I guess you didn't know this cause you didnt do what i told you and look up bioavailability, DHA is critical for brain function, would you rather convert 2% of the converted EPA or do what we are naturally made to do and eat fish, also these nuts and seeds are high in anti nutrients which also reduces mineral and vitamin absorbtion. Vitamin D3 which is an animal hormone, you can get high amounts in wild caught fish, this can't be supplemented, the d3 supplements that are sold say they sell "cholecalciferol", its made from animal lipids thats why its called "chole" because its from cholesterol, you cannot supplement cholesterol lol. Stop appealing to authority and pharmaceutical companies
2019-06-21 02:18
#156
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
fucked up post sorry I meant vitamin D3 is an animal hormone so it cant be supplemented as a vegan, not B6 I confused myself, also vitamin A is an animal vitamin, you cant supplement vitamin A as a vegan at all, your talking about beta-carotene converting to vitamin A, most people cant convert it and the few who can only convert a very small amount. Same with vitamin k1 to k2 conversion, around 45% of people carry a gene mutation that stops the conversion
2019-06-21 01:33
Cholecalciferol, also known as vitamin D3 and colecalciferol, is a type of vitamin D which is made by the skin when exposed to sunlight; it is also found in some foods and can be taken as a dietary supplement. 'your talking about beta-carotene converting to vitamin A, most people cant convert it and the few who can only convert a very small amount.' All of the people can convert it. Genes might affect up to 69% reduced conversion tho. Small amounts are enough, since there is a lot of beta-carotene in certain plants. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2854912..
2019-06-21 02:28
#161
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
you cant supplement d3 because its made from animal lipids, thats why its called cholecalciferol because its from cholesterol, the d3 supplements are made from lichen, show me where you can find fucking cholesterol in fungi. Keep buying pills. Absolutly no proof supplements work btw because they arent regulated. I really didnt wanna link studies because thats all debating nutrion is just linking studies but oh well ill leave you with these links, you can do your own research. pastebin.com/rc6QmXeQ
2019-06-21 02:35
I don't buy pills, because my own body produces vitamin-D from the sun. During winter I eat pills, take a vacation to a sunny place, or might even eat a little bit of fish full of toxins. Humans are not made to live in dark places. There is a clear link between Animal foods and the most common western diseases. Denying that is just stupid, when the science is very clear. I can eat a healthy vegan diet that is good for me, for the planet and for the animals. Why are you trying to prove me wrong? You should read studies that are not funded by meat, egg or dairy industries, hehe.
2019-06-21 02:56
#164
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
last reply for real but all i'll say is even doctors will tell you those studies are bullshit, comparing health concious vegans to people on a standard diet (thats 80% plant based anyway lol) whos diet consists of refined carbs, sugar and cooked meat. oxidezed plant oilt increase risk of heart disease btw, not meat. show me a study comparing risk of heart disease between vegans and raw carnivores, you wont find one because they havent been done. go read the links i gave you, it might save your life
2019-06-21 03:05
2000-3000kcal 75% kcal from unrefined carbs 15% kcal from protein 10% kcal from fats Eat a bit of meat if you want. This will save your life actually.
2019-06-21 03:25
2000kcal diet from which 75% carbs xDDDD enjoy going to toilet 3x a day and diabetes and farting often
2019-06-25 21:07
I'm enjoying physical exercise twice a day. Running at least 6km every evening. Going to toilet 1-2 times a day. I'm not farting at all. You are a piece of shit.
2019-06-26 00:14
#162
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
this is my last reply because you're clearly mentally ill and appeal to authority. Over 50% of women in the UK are unable to convert beta carotene sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647 heres another showing that you cant get vitamin a from eating plants healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vit.. i know your not gonna read any of these just like im not reading anything you've linked me, oh well, if you truly care about optimal human health and nutrition you should check out the pastebin links, or you could keep taking pills, that works too.
2019-06-21 02:41
'From a volunteer group of 62 women, the team found that 29 of them -- 47 per cent -- carried the genetic variation which prevented them from being able to effectively convert beta-carotene into vitamin A.' 62 women isn't 50% of the whole UK. This study proves absolute nothing. 'heres another showing that you cant get vitamin a from eating plants' 11 men were given a beta-carotene supplement, and 45% didn't convert. Again this study proves absolutely nothing. Before making conclusions, you need very heavy proof, not just some headline. The most important thing in science is to be able to understand the importance of the studies. I'm reading all the texts that you are writing. It's pretty immature and ignorant from you to not read what I write. You could learn something new. Even though I don't agree with most of your stuff, I still learned something from this conversation. Good night.
2019-06-21 03:20
hahah you are not even understanding what he is writing to you. Like you are genuinely retarded or have maxed out ignorance on vegan negative effects
2019-06-25 21:09
#119
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Iceland fatboislim 
that explains a lot
2019-06-20 22:07
Good if so.
2019-06-20 22:08
First time I heard about it was through Jordan B. Petterson. He talked good about it. Was interesting for me because he said he got rid og the floaters in his eyes. Which I have myself. So I definitely thought about it.
2019-06-20 16:17
#39
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Latvia BionicRick 
Apparently his daughter also cured some of her autoimmune diseases using that diet. The main reason I'm trying it is to improve my skin, I've had acne for years and I'm convinced it's from my diet, which was very clean even before going full carnivore. After eating no carbs for 2 days my skin actually feels better already, isn't itchy anymore and less inflamed.
2019-06-20 16:20
Give it a try, mate! Worst thing that can happen is it doesnt work for you. I hope if will man. Acne is shit to live with!
2019-06-20 16:23
It's good but if you have fast metabolism its going to ruin you : you wil be hungry almost all the time
2019-06-20 16:19
Nothing is wrong with being hungry, also you probably consider a feeling of empty stomach as "hunger".
2019-06-20 17:16
Actually being hungry doesn't feel good and it hinders your performance so it can ruin you.
2019-06-20 18:07
Have you ever tried one meal a day (intermittent fasting)? I do intensive strength training after 20+ hours of hunger and my performance is insane tbh, I'd even say I have more power than when I ate something prior to training.
2019-06-20 18:12
#122
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Iceland fatboislim 
youre a vegeterian, it doesnt matter if you eat before training.
2019-06-20 22:08
Chill m8.
2019-06-20 22:09
u have no idea what u are talking about. on high fat diet you hormones responsible for hunger are regulated because you are eliminate all sugars that make u hungry. on high fat diet u can go easily 2 days without eating and you are not hungry.
2019-06-21 02:18
if u can afford gras fed organic meat or hunt down animals urself why not but if u eat all this hormone injected shit from the super market ur gonna have a bad time.
2019-06-20 16:22
#47
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Latvia BionicRick 
Eating man-made fruits or grains full of pesticide doesn't sound much better than eating grain-fed meat. But yes, I try to get some higher quality stuff when possible.
2019-06-20 16:27
I dont recommend going full carnivore tbh(because it is boring). I suggest being low carb first the least
2019-06-25 21:15
#216
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yeah, if someone is used to snacking etc. then it can be tough. I've always had a fairly clean diet with ocassional snacks, so it's not too hard. I can see someone wanting to implement berries, nuts etc. into the diet, it can be fine in moderation. I think the reason most people abstain from it is to stay in ketosis.
2019-06-26 02:13
no i wasnt talking about snacking. it is just nice to have different flavors, but up2u
2019-06-26 09:15
another trick to make more money off u idiots who have to follow stupid diet trends. ^^
2019-06-20 16:24
#48
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Latvia BionicRick 
Who exactly is making money on this type of diet? The farmers? Unlike the vegan diet, which requires you to buy 700 different supplements, this diet is literally just food. You could even start your own farm and become self-sustainable if you had the starting capital.
2019-06-20 16:28
> vegan diet, which requires you to buy 700 different supplements Bitch, please.
2019-06-20 17:07
Yes, everyone already knows you are retarded and mentally deficient from your diet. No need to keep proving it.
2019-06-25 21:16
most trends are based on taking the money from the people. why u think gucci pays rappers to wear their shit.
2019-06-20 18:04
#49
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
Just make sure you take in all the vitamins those lil shits are important Eat eggs since they are great for cholesterol I think you should take a bit of plant fibers because they are good for your poop (also lowers cholesterol by 5-10%)
2019-06-20 16:28
#56
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Latvia BionicRick 
I try to eat liver at least once a weak, which should be enough to cover any vitamins / minerals missing in fish and beef. I do eat eggs every breakfast, and also have some dairy for easy extra fat intake. According to the research I've done, fiber is not essential and pooping should be fine, but less frequent, since there is less waste from animal products.
2019-06-20 16:35
#70
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
Sure you get A and B12 and folic acid, etc. from the liver but I'm not sure about the E and K vitamins. Just really make sure you take enough of those :D Fibers are not essential but they say it makes the digestion a bit better but I guess you can skip them if you want
2019-06-20 16:41
#74
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Latvia BionicRick 
I believe that vitamin K is found in most meat and liver as well. Not entirely sure about vitamin E, but it seems that certain vitamin guidelines have been based on the standard diet which is mostly plant based, so these guidelines change when eating only animal products. For example, the need for vitamin C is almost non-existent on a meat based diet.
2019-06-20 16:51
#81
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
You need vitamin C for the proper collagen synthesis (to be exact for the prolil- and lizil-hydroxylase enzymes) used as an antyoxidant. In the lack of C-vit you'll get scurvy and maybe some level of immundeficiency
2019-06-20 16:59
#50
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Europe HLTV_Incel 
DO NOT TRY TO BE VEGAN, VEGAN IS MENTAL ILLNESS youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA youtube.com/watch?v=97Wry4ppywQ they look like freaks, this is mental illness, their bodies are literally rotting, losing hair, teeth rotting, premature aging, wrinkles, bad skin, rashes, anorexia, fatigue, anemia, vitamin and nutrient deficient, no mental clarity, sugar addicts, big pharma consumers, digestive problems, women lose period and fertility, men lose fertility and testosterone, they are bloated, sick, deluded, brainwashed, some of them are also forcing their little kids to go on vegan diet and those "parents" should be put in jail, they are freaks, do not believe their wicked lies or lies of fake news media and governments that tell you eating plants only is healthy, veganism is mental illness.
2019-06-20 16:32
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Lithuania a2kas 
eat only butter and drink only sunflower oil, after some weeks you will be skinny
2019-06-20 16:31
#58
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Czech Republic C9in2015 
Sunflower oil and omega-6 are horrible for you.
2019-06-20 16:35
#59
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Lithuania a2kas 
I know, according to my diet you will be corpse after a week
2019-06-20 16:36
#61
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Czech Republic C9in2015 
nice englando
2019-06-20 16:36
#89
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Lithuania a2kas 
Thanks
2019-06-20 18:10
#55
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Czech Republic C9in2015 
Paleo is the only diet that actually makes sense.
2019-06-20 16:35
true, but you will crave for some carbs after couple days. bread, rice, noodles, cant miss those. lets not forget that eating so much meat is expensive and everyone eats a bag of chips now and then.
2019-06-20 16:36
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Latvia BionicRick 
People on the carnivore diet actually say they no longer crave carbs after about one week of only eating meat. Food used to be about sustenance, humans turned it into more of a social convention, which isn't good.
2019-06-20 16:53
i did a lot of low carb diets which were similar to this one and i know many people who did also. (used to be a gym rat) these people are lying their ass off, because i was getting wet thinking of a slice of bread. we used to be carnivore long time ago, but it changed after we discored agriculture. carbs are superior in delivering energy and if you dont believe me just do some research about metabolism.
2019-06-20 19:16
Low carb diets are dumb IMHO. Sure it can help you with "cut", but you can achieve the same effects with intermittent fasting and you won't need to avoid carbs.
2019-06-20 21:41
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Poland Marvelm 
Who would like to eat once a day only? Eating is one of the best things in life, being on a certain diet is one thing but deliberately forcing yourself not to eat for long periods of time sounds insanely stupid, doesn't matter if it works or not. Unless someone doesn't like eating, which means he's insane.
2019-06-20 21:56
Well, after 20+ hours of fasting I enjoy any simple food more than if I'd eat any of my favorite food every 2-3 hours. Ever heard about ascetics btw? :) Also it's good for you health. I can bring many reasons to do it, but I don't force anyone to anything, just be aware that everybody can have different goals.
2019-06-20 22:07
#126
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Poland Marvelm 
Well, Im not saying you can't do that, to each their own, but in general, food/eating is usually directly connected with pleasure, eating the food you enjoy definitely feels very good, so if you don't have to take that away from you and stay healthy, why bother?
2019-06-20 22:12
There is a saying: "eat to live, not live to eat". I feel better when I eat rarely and that's (one of) my pleasure if you want.
2019-06-20 22:20
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Latvia BionicRick 
Carbs are not a superior source of energy. You'd have to eat more than twice as many carbs to get the same amount of energy compared to fat. Sure, fat metabolises slower, however when your diet is entirely fat / protein, you enter ketosis, whereby your body uses fat stores directly for energy.
2019-06-24 00:31
in theory yes, but you will never meet someone who says " holy shit im feeling so good on low carb"
2019-06-24 05:55
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Latvia BionicRick 
Actually almost everyone I've seen on carnivore / zero carb has been saying they feel much better. I've been trying it for almost a week now and I never feel stuffed after eating, like you do with carbs. I used to not eat before the gym because of the feeling it'd give me, but with meat I can eat and not feel awful for the next hour.
2019-06-25 17:24
They feel much better because they removed a lot of unhealthy shit they used to eat regularly.
2019-06-25 20:50
#212
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yes, like bread, grains and vegetable / seed oils. Not to mention reduced insulin spikes by cutting out fruit.
2019-06-26 02:09
There is nothing wrong with whole grains or fresh raw fruits.
2019-06-26 06:25
#63
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Germany Ezekiel23!20 
thing with carnivore diet is you have to eat it unprocessed and consume as much parts of the animal as possible since you would only be able to get certain nutrients from liver or other organs. however on a strictly carnivore diet you will almost certainly get Atherosclerosis and Bone Loss if you dont suppliment calcium and D Vitamins.
2019-06-20 16:38
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Latvia BionicRick 
Calcium is found in dairy, although some people on carnivore diet only consume meat. Vitamin D comes from sunlight, as long as you spend a few minutes outdoors every day, you should be fine.
2019-06-20 16:56
omnivore niggas rise up 😎
2019-06-20 16:40
#69
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Sweden jakerr 
Plz just stop this evolution non sense, aliens crossed monkey dna with alien dna and thats how we got here
2019-06-20 16:41
you will probably get sick
2019-06-20 16:43
#72
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Poland teacandothat 
just eat everything you mongoloid
2019-06-20 16:43
#77
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Latvia BionicRick 
No, thanks. :)
2019-06-20 16:56
"After doing some research, it seems like the healthiest diet out there" HAHAHAHA people are so dumb
2019-06-20 16:57
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Latvia BionicRick 
Says the guy who did 0 research and still felt the need to weigh in. Edit: reading MSM articles written by Stacy isn't research
2019-06-20 16:58
don't be a dumb fuck. there are literally thousands of pure reviewed scientific articles showing the benefits of fruits, vegetables, legumes, even whole grains. and i'd say 90% of articles on meat show it to be detrimental in their conclusions and the other 10% are like "we need more information". but none of those articles say it's benefitial for your health. and virtually every single pure reviewed scientific articles on fruits, vegetables and legumes show a positive effect. i mean gimme somthing. it's beyond absurd, we're not talking about msm or stacy. we're talking about people promoting a dangerous diets that could kill people through their social media with no backed evidence, no cultures eating a strictly vegetable free, fiber free diet (=carnivore diet) in the histroy of humanity. the only ones close to that are like maasai and i think their average life span is like 41 years old. and when you look at the longest living cultures on the planet, they get 90+ % of their calories from plants. but carnivores wanna eliminte all of those calories from plants yeah sure it's the fucking 6% of animal products in their diet that keep them living till 90 and 100? HAHAHAHAHA some of you are so easily influenced by people on social media, it blows my mind. so i literally wanna come across to you on the street and punch you in the face to wake up. to understand that these kids who promote a diet void of fiber and this 50+ year old insecure guy who thinks his deadlift equate to health (he's got literally the mind of a 15 year old boy) are just COMPLETE FUCKING IDIOTS all you have to do is google "legumes ncbi", "fruits ncbi", "vegetables ncbi" and you'll find hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pure reviewed scientific articles, not from vegans, from scientists. google "meat cancer ncbi" "meat heart disease ncbi" and you'll find article after article after article showing meat causes heart disease, raises your risk for cancer...
2019-06-20 18:06
+1
2019-06-20 21:30
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United Kingdom camzh 
your appeal to authority is funny
2019-06-20 22:16
+1 it's always like this with the people who talk about "doing their own research"
2019-06-20 22:34
#174
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Latvia BionicRick 
Did you seriously just base your argument off of longevity of another species? So if lobsters are biologically immortal, surely we should replicate their diet and also be immortal? Jesus. Since you didn't link a single piece of study, while also managing to talk shit about "every" carnivore based study, I'll link you one that shows why you're alive here today able to type bullshit on your computer - pnas.org/content/106/38/16034.abstract, your ancestors were top-level carnivores. You probably read the abstract on all of your studies and get them from a source that tries to push veganism. Most of the studies which come to the conclusion that meat is bad for you forget about the fact that they don't exclude carbohydrates and plant-based oils from the diet.
2019-06-24 00:27
No I didn't. Based off of human cultures. Cultures. Not. Lobsters. Nice link btw. Oh and I specifically mentioned how you can find serious scienticif studies. Seems like you're not interested in those.
2019-06-24 07:46
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Latvia BionicRick 
The link works fine, remove the coma after it. Link some of your serious studies, ones that you can actually access without paying $50 to see more than just the abstract. I can guarantee you their methodology is flawed and doesn't exclude digusting amounts of carbs and vegetable / seed oils.
2019-06-25 17:27
1.) Neu5Gc is found only in animal meat. Neu5Gc appears to have a strong link to cancer and heart disease. Notes: Neu5Gc is not produced by the human body or our great ape ancestors (probably due to a common mutation). But Neu5Gc is almost always found in human tumors. The inflammation it causes seems to feed tumors and harden arteries. Source: Diversity in specificity, abundance, and composition of anti-Neu5Gc antibodies in normal humans: potential implications for disease. Glycobiology. 2008 Oct;18(10):818-30. 2.) Top 15 foods for advanced glycation end products (AGEs) are all meat sourced with roasted BBQ chicken skin and fried bacon being the top. Notes: AGEs are gerontotoxins (aka aging toxins). AGEs cause proteins to cross together causing stiffness, oxidation stress, and inflammation in muscles, brain tissue, eyes, heart, bone, red blood cells, and kidneys. Thought to contribute to muscle loss as we age. Source: Advanced glycation end products in foods and a practical guide to their reduction in the diet. J Am Diet Assoc. 2010 Jun;110(6):911-16.e12. Source: Does accumulation of advanced glycation end products contribute to the aging phenotype? J Gerontol A Biol Sci Med Sci. 2010 Sep;65(9):963-75. Epub 2010 May 17. 3.) Arachidonic acid (naturally found in animal foods) is linked to brain inflammation, depression, anxiety, and stress. Notes: Arachidonic acid is used by our bodies to create inflammation. Our bodies produce all the arachidonic acid we need unlike other animals (e.g. cats) who produce little to none because their bodies expect to get theirs from their diet (meat). Excess arachidonic acid means excess inflammation. Source: Preliminary evidence that vegetarian diet improves mood. American Public Health Association annual conference, November 7-11, 2009. Philadelphia, PA. 4.) Chicken and eggs are the top sources of arachidonic acid. Notes: Humans already produce the natural levels needed for our bodily functions. Source: National Cancer Institute. 2010. Sources of Selected Fatty Acids among the US Population, 2005–06. 5.) A single meal of high-fat animal products has been shown to spike inflammation within hours that can stiffen one’s arteries. Notes: Possible explanations could be the saturated fat or endotoxemia (see points 7, 8, and 9 below). Wild animal meat also causes inflammation. See point 10 below. Source: Effect of a single high-fat meal on endothelial function in healthy subjects. Am J Cardiol. 1997 Feb 1; 79(3):350-4. 6.) High-fat animal products consumed will cause inflammation within the lungs. Notes: Same study as above. Source: Effect of a single high-fat meal on endothelial function in healthy subjects. Am J Cardiol. 1997 Feb 1; 79(3):350-4. 7.) Significant levels of bacterial toxins are found in animal products that cause endotoxemia (bacterial toxins in the bloodstream) within hours of eating. Notes: 40 different types of common foods were tested. Source: The capacity of foodstuffs to induce innate immune activation of human monocytes in vitro is dependent on food content of stimulants of Toll-like receptors 2 and 4. Br J Nutr. 2011 Jan; 105(1):15-23. 8.) Bacteria endotoxins from animal products have been shown to survive high heat cooking for long periods, acid (like our stomachs), and digestive enzymes. Source: The capacity of foodstuffs to induce innate immune activation of human monocytes in vitro is dependent on food content of stimulants of Toll-like receptors 2 and 4. Br J Nutr. 2011 Jan; 105(1):15-23. 9.) Endotoxins have a strong affinity for the fat transport system in our digestive tract. Notes: Since our body is using our fat transport system to let in all the saturated fat (which our body loves to absorb) from the animal products the endotoxins can slip right in. Source: The capacity of foodstuffs to induce innate immune activation of human monocytes in vitro is dependent on food content of stimulants of Toll-like receptors 2 and 4. Br J Nutr. 2011 Jan; 105(1):15-23. 10.) Even wild, grass consuming animals cause inflammation in our bodies. Notes: Inflammation was less than domestic animals. It is believe that the lower fat percentage for wild animals explains this. Source: Differences in postprandial inflammatory responses to a ‘modern’ v. traditional meat meal: a preliminary study. Br J Nutr. 2010 Sep;104(5):724-8. 11.) Dietary fat of animal origin is linked to pancreatic cancer. Source: Dietary fatty acids and pancreatic cancer in the NIH-AARP diet and health study. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2009 Jul 15;101(14):1001-11. 12.) The chicken has been linked to urinary tract infections. Source: Chicken as reservoir for extraintestinal pathogenic Escherichia coli in humans, Canada. Emerg Infect Dis. 2012 Mar;18(3):415-21. Source: Is Escherichia coli urinary tract infection a zoonosis? Proof of direct link with production animals and meat. Eur J Clin Microbiol Infect Dis. 2012 Jun;31(6):1121-9. 13.) Feeding of cow brains to fish is still legal in the United States (brain cows being fed to cows and other livestock used to be legal and practiced a few years ago) and german scientists have shown fish can acquire mad cow disease. Notes: Please provide any information if the feeding of cow brains to fish is no longer practiced or legal in the United States. Source: Evaluation of the possible transmission of BSE and scrapie to gilthead sea bream (Sparus aurata). PLoS One, 4(7):e6175, 2009. Source:Bovine spongiform encephalopathy and aquaculture. J Alzheimers Dis, 17(2):277-279, 2009. Source:Food and Drug Administration, HHS § 589.2001 14.) Cholesterol has been shown to feed and promote the growth of cancer. Source: Cholesterol and breast cancer development. Current Opinion in Pharmacology. 2012 12 (6):677–682. 15.) Half an egg a day or more is shown to double the odds of mouth, throat, esophageal, prostate, and bladder cancer; triple the odds of colon and breast cancer. Notes: May be explained by the dixons present. While banned, levels are still present in our food and seem to be worst in animal products. Source: Egg consumption and the risk of cancer: a multisite case-control study in Uruguay. 16.) The obesogen (chemicals that signal cells to turn into fat cells) organotin has been found in large amounts in fish. Source: Environmental obesogens: Organotins and endocrine disruption via nuclear receptor signaling. Endocrinology, 147(6 – Suppl):-50, 2006. Source: Dietary intake of organotin compounds in Finland: a market-basket study. 17.) Meat has little to no antioxidants. Most can’t beat iceberg lettuce. Notes: One animal source of food did have an extremely high amount of antioxidants: human breast milk. Source: The total antioxidant content of more than 3100 foods, beverages, spices, herbs and supplements used worldwide. Nutr J. 2010 Jan 22;9:3. 18.) High levels of PCB (industrial toxin) in fish oil, fish, and eggs (94% of eggs tested). Source: European Food Safety Authority; Results of the monitoring of non dioxin-like PCBs in food and feed. EFSA Journal 2010; 8(7):1701. [35 pp.]. doi:10.2903/j.efsa.2010.1701. 19.) Harvard studies of 37,698 men and 83,644 women, over 22 and 30 years, respectively, found red meat to increase total mortality rates and cancer mortality rates. Notes: Results were after controlling for age, weight, alcohol, exercise, smoking, family history, calorie intake, and intake of whole plant foods. Nuts were found to be protective when taken as an alternative protein source. Source: Red Meat Consumption and Mortality: Results From 2 Prospective Cohort Studies. Arch Intern Med. 2012;0(2012):201122871-9. 20.) Nitrites in processed meat form nitrosamines (carcinogens also found in cigarette smoke) and are associated with the two leading pediatric cancers, brain tumors and childhood leukemia. Notes: Hot dogs have some of the highest levels. Pregnant women should probably avoid hot dogs. Source: A meta-analysis of maternal cured meat consumption during pregnancy and the risk of childhood brain tumors. Neuroepidemiology. 2004 Jan-Apr;23(1-2):78-84. Source:Nitrites, nitrosamines, and cancer. Lancet. 1968 May 18;1(7551):1071-2. 21.) 47% of U.S. retail meat tested is contaminated with staph (Staphylococcus) bacteria. Multidrug resistant strains were common. Notes: Turkey was the most common with 77% and chicken and pork with 41% and 42%, respectively. A superbug version (methicillin resistant) was also found of MRSA that can jump from pig to human. Source: Multidrug-Resistant Staphylococcus aureus in US Meat and Poultry. Clin Infect Dis. 2011 May;52(10):1227-30. Source: Infectious disease. From pigs to people: the emergence of a new superbug. 22.) Eating meat just a few times a month greatly increases the chances of abdominal aortic aneurysm. Notes: Once an abdominal aortic aneurysm begins to tear you have less than a 15% survival rate. Source: Analysis of risk factors for abdominal aortic aneurysm in a cohort of more than 3 million individuals. J Vasc Surg. 2010 Sep;52(3):539-48. 23.) Our liver can only detox about 50% of the heterocyclic amines (carcinogens) formed from cooked chicken. Not the originally thought 99% which other animals can. Notes: The animal that can detox 99% is the lab rat. Thus, the prior incorrect conclusion. Source: Biomonitoring of urinary metabolites of 2-amino-1-methyl-6-phenylimidazo[4,5-b]pyridine (phip) following human consumption of cooked chicken. Food Chem. Toxicol., 46(9):3200-3205, 2008. 24.) One of the longest running studies showed meat consumption to increase allergies. This included asthma, bee stings, drug allergies, and hayfever. Notes: Meat (including fish) consumed by pregnant woman can cause their children to have allergies. Source: Knutsen SF. Lifestyle and the use of health services. Am J Clin Nutr. 1994 May;59(5 Suppl):1171S-1175S. Source: Maternal meat and fat consumption during pregnancy and suspected atopic eczema in Japanese infants aged 3-4 months: the Osaka Maternal and Child Health Study. Pediatr Allergy Immunol. 2010 Feb;21(1 Pt 1):38-46. Epub 2009 Jun 23. 25.) Putrescine has been determined to be a carcinogenic. Putrescine is found in food even when not spoiled. Highest level in canned tuna. Source: Toxicological Effects of Dietary Biogenic Amines. Current Nutrition & Food Science, Volume 6, Number 2, May 2010 , pp. 145-156(12) Source: Significance of biogenic amines to food safety and human health. Food Research International, Volume 29, Issue 7, October 1996, Pages 675-690. 26.) 100% of human Yersinia enterocolitica outbreak over the last decade was caused by pork. Notes: Y. enterocolitica usually causes bloody diarrhea and can have very harmful long-term effects if left untreated. Half of American pig herds were found to be infected. Source: Ranking the disease burden of 14 pathogens in food sources in the United States using attribution data from outbreak investigations and expert elicitation. J. Food Prot. 75, 1278 – 1291 (2012). Source:Prevalence of pathogenic Yersinia enterocolitica strains in pigs in the United States. Appl. Environ. Microbiol. 71, 7117 – 7121 (2005). 27.) Processed meat is greatly associated with stomach, colon, rectum, pancreatic, lung, prostate, testicular, kidney, and bladder cancer. Source: Canadian Cancer Registries Epidemiology Research Group. Salt, processed meat and the risk of cancer. Eur J Cancer Prev. 2011 Mar;20(2):132-9. 28.) Even small amounts of meat consumption less than once a week is linked to degenerative arthritis. Source: Associations between meat consumption and the prevalence of degenerative arthritis and soft tissue disorders in the Adventist health study, California U.S.A. J Nutr Health Aging, 10(1):7-14, 2006. 29.) After breast cancer diagnosis, increase in saturated fat consumption increased mortality from breast cancer by 41%. Notes: Top 5 saturated fat sources include cheese, pizza, pastries, ice cream, and chicken (notice beef is not in the top 5). Source: Post-diagnosis dietary factors and survival after invasive breast cancer. Breast Cancer Res Treat. 2011 Jul;128(1):229-36. Source: National Cancer Institute. 2010. Top Food Sources of Saturated Fat among US Population. 30.) Poultry consumption is associated with an increase in lymphoma (blood cancer). Source: Consumption of meat and dairy and lymphoma risk in the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition. Int J Cancer. 2011 Feb 1;128(3):623-34. 31.) Chicken handling significantly increased risk of dying from penile (penis) cancer, thought to be due to exposure to cancer causing viruses in poultry. Source: Cancer mortality in poultry slaughtering/processing plant workers belonging to a union pension fund. Environ Res. 2010 Aug;110(6):588-94. 32.) 14% of retail eggs contain viruses of the leukosis/sarcoma group. Notes: These viruses are one of the most potent cancer causing viruses in chicken. Virus exposure to humans seems to increased the risk of dying from several different cancers. Source: Detection of exogenous and endogenous avian leukosis virus in commercial chicken eggs using reverse transcription and polymerase chain reaction assay. Avian Pathology (1999) 28, 385±392 Source: Cancer mortality in poultry slaughtering/processing plant workers belonging to a union pension fund. Environ Res. 2010 Aug;110(6):588-94. 33.) Besides cancer, poultry workers suffer more from a range of diseases (e.g. thyroid conditions, schizophrenia, autoimmune neurological disorders, peritonitis, and disease of the kidneys). Source: Mortality in the Baltimore union poultry cohort: non-malignant diseases. Int Arch Occup Environ Health. 2010 Jun;83(5):543-52. 34.) Cured meat seems to increase the chance of getting chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD). Notes: COPD is generally defined as lung diseases (e.g. emphysema). As of 2012, COPD is the third most common killer in the United States. Source: Consumption of cured meats and prospective risk of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in women. Am J Clin Nutr. 2008 Apr;87(4):1002-8. 35.) Increased meat consumption increases the risk of developing cataracts. Source: Diet, vegetarianism, and cataract risk. Am J Clin Nutr. 2011 May;93(5):1128-35. 36.) Bacteria-eating viruses (bacteriophages) have been approved as meat additives. Source: Bacteria-eating virus approved as food additive. FDA Consum. 2007 Jan-Feb; 41(1):20-2. 37.) Meat contaminated with fecal food-poisoning bacteria (e.g. salmonella) can legally be sold. Source: Public knowledge and beliefs about diarrheal disease. Foodborne Pathog Dis. 2011 Jan; 8(1):165-7. 38.) Meat, fish, cheese, and general animal protein intake have been associated with an increased risk of inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Source: Animal protein intake and risk of inflammatory bowel disease: The E3N prospective study. Am J Gastroenterol. 2010 Oct; 105(10):2195-201. 39.) One of the largest studies ever links meat consumption with increased overall death, death by cancer, and death by cardiovascular disease. Notes: Study followed 500,000 people over 10 years. Source: Meat intake and mortality: a prospective study of over half a million people. Arch Intern Med. 2009 March 23; 169(6): 562–571. 40.) High intake of meat, dairy, and butter have been shown to promote skin wrinkling. Notes: For those curious, prunes, apples, and tea (especially green) appeared to be the most protective and reduced wrinkling and scaling the most. Source: Skin wrinkling: can food make a difference? J Am Coll Nutr. 2001 Feb;20(1):71-80. 41.) Abdominal fat has been linked to meat, egg, and milk consumption. Poultry seems to be the worst offender. Source: Will all Americans become overweight or obese? Estimating the progression and cost of the US obesity epidemic. Obesity (Silver Spring), 16(10):2323-2330, 2008. 42.) Heterocyclic Amines (normally only found in cooked meat) have also been found in cheese and eggs. Source: Formation and biochemistry of carcinogenic heterocyclic aromatic amines in cooked meats. Toxicol Lett. 2007 Feb 5;168(3):219-27. Epub 2006 Nov 16. 43.) Kidney failure is linked to meat. Notes: Meat consumption was shown to cause human proteins to be urinated out (microalbuminuria). Something that should never happen. Source: Associations of diet with albuminuria and kidney function decline. Clin J Am Soc Nephrol. 2010 May; 5(5):836-43. 44.) New, lower target cholesterol levels are not obtainable when meat is consumed. Source: High marks for below-average cholesterol. For the best protection against clogged arteries and heart disease, average cholesterol no longer makes the grade–lower is better. Harv Heart Lett. 2006 Feb;16(6):4-5. 45.) Iron found in meat passes through the digestive system without regulation. Notes: Iron is a pro-oxidant, which can cause oxidative stress and DNA damage. Too much iron can cause colon cancer, cardiovascular disease, infection, and inflammatory conditions. Body has no means to get rid of excess iron through a regulatory system. Source: Mechanisms of heme iron absorption: current questions and controversies. World J Gastroenterol. 2008 Jul 14; 14(26):4101-10. 46.) Animal foods (including turkey) shown to decrease tryptophan in the brain. Notes: Tryptophan rich animal foods like turkey will increase the tryptophan levels in the blood, but this in turns decreases it in the brain. Plant based foods high in tryptophan, when compared to other amino acids, and carbohydrates (like seeds) work best to elevate mood and tryptophan in the brain. Source: Protein-source tryptophan as an efficacious treatment for social anxiety disorder: a pilot study. Can J Physiol Pharmacol. 2007 Sep;85(9):928-32. 47.) Propionate. Meat has no fiber to support healthy bacteria in our guts. That means our bacteria cannot produce propionate which is used to regulate cholesterol and either help us feel satisfied or possibly regulate generation of new fat cells. Source: Propionate. Anti-obesity and satiety enhancing factor? Appetite. 2011 Apr;56(2):511-5. 48.) Refined grains, eggs, and poultry shown to cause prostate enlargement the most. Source: Food groups and risk of benign prostatic hyperplasia. Urology. 2006 Jan;67(1):73-9. 49.) Even when meat consumption is reduced to only fish and eggs, insulin-like growth factor (IGF-1) remained relatively the same. Notes: IGF-1 has been shown to promote cancer growth. Source: The associations of diet with serum insulin-like growth factor I and its main binding proteins in 292 women meat-eaters, vegetarians, and vegans. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2002 Nov;11(11):1441-8. 50.) Arsenic, lead, mercury, lead, cadmium, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH), and veterinary drugs have been found contaminating animal products. Source: Chemical safety of meat and meat products. Meat Sci. 2010 Sep;86(1):38-48. 51.) Fire retardant chemicals (PBDE) and polychlorinated naphthalenes (PCNs) found heavily in meats. Notes: For PBDEs, fish was the worst offender, followed by turkey, and the third worst being chicken. PCNs have a dixion-like effect on the body. The animal with the highest levels was fish. Second was chicken. Source: Polybrominated diphenyl ether (PBDE) levels in an expanded market basket survey of U.S. food and estimated PBDE dietary intake by age and sex. Environ Health Perspect. 2006 Oct;114(10):1515-20. Source:Polybrominated diphenyl ethers in U.S. Meat and poultry from two statistically designed surveys showing trends and levels from 2002 to 2008. Agric Food Chem. 2011 May 25;59(10):5428-34. 52.) Consumption of meat, fish, and dairy products associated with mothers passing on DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane) to their unborn child even decades after the pesticide being banned. Source: Organochlorine pesticides in umbilical cord blood serum of women from Southern Spain and adherence to the Mediterranean diet. Food Chem Toxicol. 2010 May;48(5):1311-5. 53.) Perfluorochemicals (linked to thyroid disease) exposure comes from meat, fish, and eggs. Source: Perfluorochemicals in meat, eggs and indoor dust in China: assessment of sources and pathways of human exposure to perfluorochemicals. Environ Sci Technol. 2010 May 1;44(9):3572-9. 54.) 30 year follow up of multiple sclerosis patients showed 95% of those who stopped consuming saturated fat had no progression of the disease. Notes: A 50 year follow up showed those 95% who started to consume animal fat again instantly had the disease return. The conclusion of the study said MS is mostly likely caused from saturated animal fat. Source: Effect of low saturated fat diet in early and late cases of multiple sclerosis. Lancet 1990 336(8706):37 – 39. Source: Review of MS patient survival on a Swank low saturated fat diet. Nutrition 2003 19(2):161 – 162. 55.) Increase dairy intake can double your risk of heart attack. Source:Plasma and erythrocyte biomarkers of dairy fat intake and risk of ischemic heart disease. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 86(4):929, 2007. 56.) Almost 80% of all antimicrobials (antibiotics) produced are used on and feed to livestock. Source: 2009 Summary Report on Antimicrobials Sold or Distributed for Use in Food-Producing Animals. U.S. Food and Drug Administration. 2010. 57.) Elderly people given milk as children have triple the risk of colorectal cancer. Source: Childhood dairy intake and adult cancer risk: 65-y follow-up of the boyd orr cohort. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 86(6):1722, 2007. 58.) All types of meat (no matter how it is cooked) increases cancer of the uterus. Notes: Poultry and fish increased the risk the most. Source: Animal food intake and cooking methods in relation to endometrial cancer risk in shanghai. Br. J. Cancer, 95(11):15861592, 2006. 59.) Only purines (meats) and fructose increases uric acid levels in our bodies. Notes: Uric acid increases gout, high blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, kidney disease, and cardiovascular disease. Source: The role of uric acid as an endogenous danger signal in immunity and inflammation. Curr Rheumatol Rep. 2011 Apr;13(2):160-6. 60.) PhIP (a type of heterocyclic amines carcinogen in cooked meats) not only damages DNA, but also activates estrogen receptors (almost as strong as the hormone estrogen itself) on breast cancer cells and promotes its growth. Notes: PhIP has been found in mother’s breast milk. Meaning PhIP from cooked meat does make its way to the breast tissues. Source: The cooked food derived carcinogen 2-amino-1-methyl-6-phenylimidazo[4,5-b] pyridine is a potent oestrogen: A mechanistic basis for its tissue-specific carcinogenicity. Carcinogenesis 2004 25(12):2509 – 2517 61.) PhIP stimulates breast cancer cells to invade healthy cells more so than the hormone estrogen itself. Even when PhIP is at low concentrations. Notes: PhIP is most common in chicken, beef, and fish. Source: The cooked meat-derived mammary carcinogen 2-amino-1-methyl-6-phenylimidazo[4,5-b]pyridine promotes invasive behaviour of breast cancer cells. Toxicology 2011 279(1 – 3):139 – 145 62.) Meat fumes from cooked meat may be hazardous for fetal development and increase the risk of cancer. Notes: Simply being around the vapors (polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons or PAHs for short) was associated with a birth weight decrease and head shrinkage. Source: Impact of barbecued meat consumed in pregnancy on birth outcomes accounting for personal prenatal exposure to airborne polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons: Birth cohort study in Poland. Nutrition. 2012 Apr;28(4):372-7. 63.) A diet high in protein, particularly animal protein, has been associated with relapse of inflammatory bowel disease and a higher risk of inflammatory bowel disease. Source: Diet and risk of inflammatory bowel disease. Dig Liver Dis 2012 44(3):185 – 194 64.) Microparticles (titanium dioxide and aluminum silicate), common additive in pastries and processed food, consumed with endotoxins cause an inflammatory response in the gut wall 6x greater compared to endotoxins alone. Notes: Most people are digesting a trillion particles of titanium dioxide a day. Researchers found these microparticles in all 18 diseased colons (colon cancer or inflammatory bowel) used for a study. No microparticles were found in the healthy colons studied. Titanium dioxide is used to make things white. Thus white powdered donuts tend to have the most titanium dioxide out of all foods. Source: Immune potentiation of ultrafine dietary particles in normal subjects and patients with inflammatory bowel disease. J. Autoimmun. 2000 14(1):99 – 105 65.) Meat consumption linked to premature puberty in boys and girls. Notes: Premature purberty has been linked to increased risk of developing breast cancer in girls and abdominal fat and heart disease in boys. Source: Internal exposure to pollutants and sexual maturation in Flemish adolescents. J Expo Sci Environ Epidemiol 2011 21(3):224 – 233 66.) After consuming animal products human adiponectin levels drop. Hormone adiponectin appears to be protective against cellulite. Source: Adiponectin expression in subcutaneous adipose tissue is reduced in women with cellulite. Int. J. Dermatol. 2011 50(4):412 – 416 Source: Meal modulation of circulating interleukin 18 and adiponectin concentrations in healthy subjects and in patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2003 78(6):1135 – 1140 67.) Animal consumption linked to breast pain. Notes: Prolactin has been shown to cause breast pain. When vegans and vegetarians in South Africa (who have lower levels of prolactin and breast pain compared to women in western civilization) were fed meat, their prolactin levels went up to match western women. Two separate studies showed significant reduction in cyclical breast pain when meat was removed from the diet. Source: Diet, lifestyle, and menstrual activity. Am J Clin Nutr. 1980 Jun;33(6):1192-8. Source: Diet and prolactin release. Lancet. 1976 Oct 9;2(7989):806-7. Source: Serum prolactin and oestradiol levels in women with cyclical mastalgia. Horm Metab Res. 1981 Dec;13(12):700-2. 68.) Amino acid L-carnitine (found heavily in red meat and popular energy drinks) has been found to cause heart disease. Notes: While our bodies produce L-carnitine, the problem comes when our gut bacteria comes in contact with it and produces a toxic substance called trimethylamine oxide (TMAO). This substance has been found circulating in our blood after L-carnitine consumption. TMAO also appears to be linked to cancer. Source: Intestinal microbiota metabolism of l-carnitine, a nutrient in red meat, promotes atherosclerosis. Nat Med. 2013 Apr 7. 69.) Chickens consumption and handling linked to bladder infections. Notes: When handling frozen chicken the UTI bacteria causing strains end up in that person’s rectum. Even when the chicken is well cooked before consumption. This is because the jump happens before it is cooked. The strains are usually antibacterial resistant. Source: Chicken as reservoir for extraintestinal pathogenic Escherichia coli in humans, Canada. Emerging Infect. Dis. 2012 18(3):415 – 421 70.) Thorough cleaning with bleach right after every use has been found to be the only method to significantly reduce chicken pathogens in kitchens. However, pathogens were still detectable on some kitchen items. Notes: All items used were washed in beach and surfaces were sprayed and wiped. Washcloth was soaked in bleach. Bleach was allowed to sit on surfaces for 5 minutes before test results were taken. Pathogens were still found on utensils, counters, and washcloth. Source: The effectiveness of hygiene procedures for prevention of cross-contamination from chicken carcases in the domestic kitchen. Lett. Appl. Microbiol. 1999 29(5):354 – 358 71.) A 5% increase of calories from saturated fat (at the expense of calories from carbohydrates) can result in a 38% lower sperm count. Source: Dietary fat and semen quality among men attending a fertility clinic. Hum. Reprod. 2012 27(5):1466 – 1474 72.) Xenoestrogens (human made chemicals with estrogenic effects) have been found the most in fish. Source: Role of environmental estrogens in the deterioration of male factor fertility. Fertil Steril. 2002 Dec;78(6):1187-94. 73.) Fish eaters have been shown to have only a fraction of the sperm count of vegans. Source: Role of environmental estrogens in the deterioration of male factor fertility. Fertil Steril. 2002 Dec;78(6):1187-94. 74.) The American Heart Association took legal action through the FDA (which was upheld by the Supreme Court) to have the egg industry cease and desist promoting eggs as having no harmful effects on your health. Notes: Not a scientific fact, but interesting nonetheless. The notable statement by the egg industry was an advertising campaign that stated there is no scientific evidence that eggs cause heart disease. After the courts reviewed the evidence, they found the statement to be clearly false and misleading. Source: Dietary cholesterol, serum cholesterol, and risks of cardiovascular and noncardiovascular diseases. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 1998 67(3):488 – 492 75.) One egg contains almost 2/3 of the cholesterol limit suggested by the American Heart Association for healthy people. Source: AHA Website 76.) Meat handlers have a much high mortality rate of cancer. Notes: Most of the highest rates were found with the workers handling the final product. Source: Cancer mortality in workers employed in cattle, pigs, and sheep slaughtering and processing plants. Environ Int 2011 37(5):950 – 959. 77.) Growing up on an animal farm increases the chance of blood cancers (poultry farms were the worst). Notes: Growing up on farms only growing crops showed no increased chance of blood cancers. Source: Farming, growing up on a farm, and haematological cancer mortality. Occup Environ Med 2012 69(2):126 – 132. 78.) Eating meat may cause cellular cannibalism (auto-immune polyradiculoneuropathy) and thus explaining autoimmune attack (rheumatoid arthritis). Notes: By consuming organisms in our own kingdom, our immune system may be identifying our own flesh as foreign objects. Auto-immune polyradiculoneuropathy has never been found to be caused by plant consumption. Source: Meat-induced joint attacks, or meat attacks the joint: rheumatism versus allergy. Nutr Clin Pract. 2010 Feb;25(1):90-1. Source: Auto-immune polyradiculoneuropathy and a novel IgG biomarker in workers exposed to aerosolized porcine brain. J. Peripher. Nerv. Syst. 2011 16 (Suppl 1):34 – 37 79.) Methionine (an amino acid) is required for many cancers and tumors to stay alive and grow. Methionine is found virtually only in animal products (with eggs, fish, and chicken being the worst). Source: The effect of replacement of methionine by homocystine on survival of malignant and normal adult mammalian cells in culture. Proc. Natl. Acad. Sci. USA 1974 71(4):1133 – 1136. 80.) Meat is acidic which causes higher risk of kidney stones and lower urine acid clearance. Source: Diet-induced metabolic acidosis. Clin Nutr 2011 30(4):416 – 421. 81.) Choline, a substance very high in eggs, can cause trimethylamine (the smell of rotten fish) to your breath, urine, sweat, and vagina. Source: Smelling like dead fish: A case of trimethylaminuria in an adolescent. Clin Pediatr (Phila) 2006 45(9):864 – 866. 82.) Choline is converted to TMAO which, as already stated, is linked to heart disease and cancer. Source: Intestinal microbiota metabolism of l-carnitine, a nutrient in red meat, promotes atherosclerosis. Nat Med. 2013 Apr 7. 83.) Choline is associated with prostate cancer progression and death. Source: Choline intake and risk of lethal prostate cancer: Incidence and survival. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 2012 96(4):855 – 863. 84.) Pork tapeworm brain infection is the most common parasitic disease in the brain for people and is on the rise for humans in the United States. Notes: Referred to as neurocysticercosis in the study. Source:Clinical manifestations, diagnosis, and treatment of neurocysticercosis. Curr Neurol Neurosci Rep 2011 11(6):529 – 535. 85.) Meat eaters have a lower resting metabolism compared to vegans and vegetarians. Source: Sympathetic nervous system activity and resting metabolic rate in vegetarians. Metab. Clin. Exp. 1994 43(5):621 – 625. 86.) Phosphorus preservatives are being injected into meat. These phosphorus preservatives may damage blood vessels, accelerate the aging process, and contribute to osteoporosis. Notes: Higher phosphate levels are associated with significantly lower life span. Source: Phosphate additives in food–a health risk. Dtsch Arztebl Int. 2012 109(4):49 – 55. Source: The prevalence of phosphorus-containing food additives in top-selling foods in grocery stores. J Ren Nutr. 2013 23(4):265-270. 87.) Phosphorus preservatives injected into poultry dramatically increase the growth of food poisoning Campylobacter bacteria. Notes: Campylobacter is recognized as the main cause of bacterial foodborne disease in many developed countries. Source:Effects of polyphosphate additives on Campylobacter survival in processed chicken exudates. Appl. Environ. Microbiol. 2010 76(8):2419 – 2424 88.) Chicken nuggets from 2 national food chains found actual chicken meat was not the predominant ingredient as fat was found in greater quantities along with epithelium, bone, nerve (brain and spine), and connective tissue. Source: The autopsy of chicken nuggets reads chicken little. Am J Med. 2013 126(11):1018-1019. 89.) Even when looking at endurance athletes, meat eaters’ arteries are thicker (from atherosclerosis plaque) than your average vegan. Source:Homocysteine, circulating vascular cell adhesion molecule and carotid atherosclerosis in postmenopausal vegetarian women and omnivores. Atherosclerosis 2006 184(2):356 – 362. Source:Long-term low-calorie low-protein vegan diet and endurance exercise are associated with low cardiometabolic risk. Rejuvenation Res. 2007 10(2):225 – 234. 90.) Mercury and PCB exposure, due to fish consumption, shown to harm fetus brain development. Source:Functional MRI approach to developmental methylmercury and polychlorinated biphenyl neurotoxicity. Neurotoxicology 2011 32(6):975 – 980. 91.) Mercury in fish shown to outweigh benefits of omega-3s when it comes to brain development (specifically IQ). Source: Fish consumption during child bearing age: a quantitative risk-benefit analysis on neurodevelopment. Food Chem Toxicol. 2013 54:30-34. 92.) Due to mercury “sticking” to our bodies, most women planning on getting pregnant need to avoid mercury containing foods 1 year before. Notes: Half-life of mercury is about 2 months. That means after 2 months the mercury amount present is cut in half. Source:Fish consumption during child bearing age: A quantitative risk-benefit analysis on neurodevelopment. Food Chem. Toxicol. 2013 54(NA):30 – 34. 93.) Pregnant women eating fish once a week give their infants more mercury than if they were injected with six mercury containing vaccines. Source: Speciation of methyl- and ethyl-mercury in hair of breastfed infants acutely exposed to thimerosal-containing vaccines. Clin. Chim. Acta. 2011 412(17 – 18):1563 – 1566. 94.) Some chemicals (dioxins, PCB, and DDE) found in fish have half lives as high as 10 years. Notes: A 10 year half life means after 10 years only half of those chemicals are gone from your body. So it would take a lifetime to get even close to 1 percent of your present levels. Source: Elimination half-lives of polychlorinated biphenyl congeners in children. Environ. Sci. Technol. 2008 42(18):6991 – 6996. 95.) Gestational diabetes (diabetes during pregnancy which causes abnormal fetal growth, birth defects, and infant mortality) risk is increased when meat is consumed before pregnancy. Notes: Bacon, processed meats, and eggs seem to do the worst damage. Source: A prospective study of dietary patterns, meat intake and the risk of gestational diabetes mellitus. Diabetologia. 2006 49(11):2604 – 2613. Source:Risk of gestational diabetes mellitus in relation to maternal egg and cholesterol intake. Am. J. Epidemiol. 2011 173(6):649 – 658. 96.) Cow’s milk contains estrogen and other hormones (naturally) which promote the conversion of precancerous cell to invasive cancer and enhance the progression of cancer cells. Notes: Organic milk was used in the study. Source: Milk stimulates growth of prostate cancer cells in culture. Nutr Cancer. 2011 63(8):1361 – 1366. 97.) Just how smoking is a risk factor for lung cancer, milk consumption is a risk factor for prostate cancer Notes: This is from a meta-analysis (a summation of all studies to date found on milk consumption and prostate cancer) on case-control studies (looking at what people with and without prostate cancer had consumed in their past) and another meta-analysis on cohort type studies (following people throughout the years, what they consumed, and who got prostate cancer). Source: Milk consumption is a risk factor for prostate cancer: Meta-analysis of case-control studies. Nutr Cancer. 2004 48(1):22 – 27. Source: Milk consumption is a risk factor for prostate cancer in Western countries: Evidence from cohort studies. Asia Pac J Clin Nutr. 2007 16(3):467 – 476. 98.) “Meat glue” enzyme, transglutaminase, has potential food safety and allergy implications. Notes: The enzyme functions as an auto-antigen and will give problems to those who are gluten intolerant. Bacteria from other parts of the animal (like E. coli O157:H7) can be found along the glue line. Source: Transglutaminase, gluten and celiac disease: Food for thought. Nat. Med. 1997 3(7):725 – 726. Source:Escherichia coli O157: H7 risk assessment for production and cooking of restructured beef steaks. Report of progress (Kansas State University. Agricultural Experiment Station and Cooperative Extension Service); 873 2010. 99.) Study found 70% of purchased chicken breasts for the study contained cancer causing form of arsenic beyond the safety thresholds of the FDA. Source: Roxarsone, inorganic arsenic, and other arsenic species in chicken: A U.S.-Based market basket sample. Environ Health Perspect. 2013 121(7):818 – 824. 100.) Amino acid leucine has the greatest effect on increasing mTORC1 (believed to accelerate the aging process). Meat products have the most leucine. Notes: Calorie restriction is known to down-regulate mTORC1. However, protein restriction, especially the amino acid leucine, has been found to be just as effective. Source: Amino acid sensing and regulation of mTORC1. Semin Cell Dev Biol. 2012 23(6):621 – 625. Source:Nutrient control of TORC1, a cell-cycle regulator. Trends Cell Biol. 2009 19(6):260 – 267.
2019-06-25 17:34
#184
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Latvia BionicRick 
Did you just copy paste a bunch of excerpts from a pro-vegan blog? Did you even bother looking up the sources to these studies instead of trusting someone who is clearly biased and cherry picking? Obviously won't go over all of them, but within the first 10 - 15 I already found issues. Some have sample sizes of like 10 people, that's not even nearly enough. How you call this a "quality" study is beyond my understanding. Others use vague wording like "appears to cause", "seems to correlate"... dude, it either does or doesn't, saying something may or may not happen isn't a scientific conclusion. Another thing popping up a lot in your amazing studies is "toxins", "bacterial toxins". What does that even mean? Sure, they can cause issues if your immune system is weakened, but vegetables carry the same risk. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14679104 Why don't you stop being brainwashed and look at some studies with sample size of 300,000. twitter.com/ChristianAssad/status/114293.. According to the study linked in this tweet the risk of cardivascular disease and cancer was DECREASED with higher meat consumption in Asia. Why would that be? Perhaps cause they don't eat a lot of processed carbs and oils? And what's this jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmed.. ? Perhaps cholesterol isn't all that bad either? Study of 2900 men.
2019-06-25 17:59
PEER REVIEWED STUDIES Anything else is worthless.
2019-06-25 19:30
#193
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yes, n=10 peer reviewed studies sure are great. Good to see you have 0 comeback for any of the points. Btw you don't always need a study to see something obvious. Asians clearly are healthy and have high life expectancy, and lower rates of CVD.
2019-06-25 19:38
life expectancy china 76 years germany 80 years sweden 82 years usa 79 years thailand 75 years asians don't eat a lot of red meat btw. only rich fat asians.
2019-06-25 20:40
#209
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Latvia BionicRick 
Doing what you do best, huh. Cherry pick. Why pick thailand when that's not even in the study? It examined China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Bangladesh. Other than China and Bangladesh, all of those have life expectancies between 82 and 84 years. It also looks into meat consumption as a whole. Including red, poultry and fish. You don't have to exclusively eat beef on a carnivore diet, not that it's any worse for you than the others. Though you'd be recommended to include some fish for omega 3.
2019-06-26 02:04
So the study proves the consumption of meat is healthy and leads to longevity? Really? Absolutely not. There's no science behind it. That's why this study isn't peer reviewed. They just look at numbers and make their own assumptions. They assume the consumption of meat is beneficial ignores most other factors. Why do Asians (positive examples of the study) have less problems with CVD and cancer? Is it because they eat more meat? (which isn't even true) Is it the combination of meat with other foods? We didn't know. Is it because for generations we didn't eat much meat and therefore didn't develop genetic cancer and CVD boosters like many in western countries? Possibly. But we don't know, we just make assumptions. This, my friend, is not science and that's why studies like that aren't peer reviewed.
2019-06-26 07:52
#236
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Latvia BionicRick 
The study showed that increased meat consumption lead to REDUCED risk of CVD and cancer. If you eat MORE meat, what do you typically eat LESS of? Carbs and other garbage. It doesn't suggest that meat is amazing for you and cures cancer / CVD, it proves that western diets filled with carbs and seed oils CAUSE cancer / CVD, yet doctors and the government keep pushing it.
2019-06-27 16:43
IT'S NOT A PEER REVIEWED STUDY, IT'S MEANINGLESS FROM A SCIENTIFIC POIN OF VIEW
2019-06-27 17:04
#80
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Denmark Gryde 
but we're not cavemen any longer, are we?
2019-06-20 16:59
You have to eat raw meat from animals you murdered yourself in the wild. You won't be able to do this with the meat we eat today.
2019-06-20 18:05
#91
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United States BLaCkKobRa 
This diet has proven to be bad. All the fat can cause many heart diseases, lack of calcium and too way much protein than a human body need-may cause strokes, cancers etc. Stop being a smartass
2019-06-20 18:12
#137
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
2019-06-20 22:45
the least nutritious diet there is!! it's a mental illness!
2019-06-20 22:55
#140
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
2019-06-20 22:47
always lol @ the long haired carnivore gang roaming the streets
2019-06-20 22:50
#142
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
all the anti vegan event videos are great, get paid a dollar to watch a 4 minute video
2019-06-20 22:52
wdym?
2019-06-20 22:52
#144
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
sv3riges friend milkar went to a vegan event and triggered some old guy who kept repeating "get paid a dollar to watch a 4 minute video" youtube.com/watch?v=mz_f9rhzXsE
2019-06-20 22:54
amazin
2019-06-20 22:55
lmao just pulls out a heart and starts gnawing on it! Who tf is this guy?!!
2019-06-21 00:55
lmao just pulls out a heart and starts gnawing on it! Who tf is this guy?!!
2019-06-21 00:55
"healthiest diet out there" lmao
2019-06-20 18:13
Yes it helped us develop our big brains Yes they were dependant on it. But not everything we used to do is actually good for us. Especially this diet is not very good researched, and many of the benfits people experienced can be explained away from it being a form of fasting. Joe Rogan spoke with Dr. Rhonda Patrick about it. She said there might be a chance that it is a good thing, but there is no way for sure and it's a very extreme diet so be careful with Here's the video youtube.com/watch?v=thZFIPOAGNQ
2019-06-20 18:16
eat your carbs son. more energy, better performance, concentration, cognitive power etc
2019-06-20 19:18
Carbs is actually one of the few things we eat alot of but dont actually need to eat
2019-07-01 23:09
Not to mention the ages before we started growing grains we barely ate carbs at all.
2019-07-01 23:09
#97
Europe Ark- 
when was the last time you ate any (fresh) vegetable that was not a patato or tomato sauce?
2019-06-20 21:26
Not sure if trolling but it's time to read some science.
2019-06-20 22:04
i tried this diet for 1 month after being 7 months on ketogenic diet. it's very good for healing some kind of issue for exmaple skin problems like acne. works very good for me. now im on high carb diet and have some acne but not that much like before
2019-06-20 22:17
you went from carnivore to a high carb diet? how about just eating a balanced diet and cutting out processed foods instead of following borderline religious cults
2019-06-20 22:28
it's not bad idea. you can eat balanced diet but rember carbs have very small amounts of nutrients. in addition to that you have to cook them for long time so nutrients are more less. if you on high carb diet it's very difficult to get iron and selenium. don't eat high carb with high fat meal. it's hard to digest. i always start my day from eating fat and protein (mostly raw eggs from good source) with fermented foods. then i eat my carbs.
2019-06-20 23:26
You don't have to cook carbs at all. Eat fruit. Don't eat processed foods in general and guess what, no acne.
2019-06-25 19:35
fruits are more expensive
2019-06-25 20:38
get a job starches are cheap btw potatoes?
2019-06-25 20:41
The acne going away is just a sigh that your puberty is ending...
2019-06-21 04:19
nice try but i have 27
2019-06-21 09:15
Try to avoid dairy, it helped me when I had severe acne on my back and chest.
2019-06-25 20:48
i know that but after 8 months on keto dairy doesn't cause acne. i eat now a loot of dairy like milk and cheeses and almost 0 acne.
2019-06-25 20:57
#217
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Latvia BionicRick 
Dude, same. I used to think I get acne from dairy, tried incorporating it in carnivore diet along meat and eggs, didn't cause any breakouts. So much easier to get the necessary calories on keto or carnivore diet when you can use dairy.
2019-06-26 02:19
#133
frozen | 
France HYPNO5 
dumbest diet ever
2019-06-20 22:28
Nice bait.
2019-06-20 22:47
early humans were not carnivores lol
2019-06-21 01:00
#185
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Latvia BionicRick 
Source: lmao dude, trust me I'm like totally all about science, bro. I prefer to do my own research instead pnas.org/content/106/38/16034.abstract
2019-06-25 18:04
We are omnivores, always have been. Carnivores like cats can only derive enough nutrition to survive from meat; the same cannot be said about Humans. During the continental drift between thirty-five to four million years ago, a great rift slowly opened up along the African coast when the Arabian Peninsula separated from Northeast Africa, giving rise to the Red Sea. Meanwhile, mountain ranges grew along its edge. These mountains gradually prevented more and more moisture from the Indian Ocean from passing over to the land. This slowly transformed the lush rain forest into a dry Savannah. It was here that we found our earliest ancestor ''Australopithecus afarensis''. The ape-like creatures that inhabited these rain forests could have stayed in the trees forever, but when the climate became more and more dry, these creatures were forced to look further and further for food. Without trees to swing around in, they stop dragging their knuckles and instead begin to go upright: The Human was born.
2019-06-25 19:21
#191
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Latvia BionicRick 
You're talking about a much more distant ancestor. Neanderthals are literally subspecies of humans. Not sure why you're entirely ignoring the study I linked. "The isotopic evidence indicates that in all cases Neanderthals were top-level carnivores and obtained all, or most, of their dietary protein from large herbivores". Yes, humans can digest plants for the most part, but they're not necessary for us to live. I'm glad you mentioned cats, since they are obligate carnivores. Have you seen them eat grass? You most likely have. It's speculated they do this to relieve sore throat or maybe just clear their system from stuck feathers, bones etc. In a similar way we can use plants for medical or other purposes, but they're not essential to our diet.
2019-06-25 19:36
75% kcal from unrefined carbohydrates 15% kcal from protein 10% kcal from fats Thank me later.
2019-06-21 01:08
#186
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Latvia BionicRick 
Not nearly enough fats.
2019-06-25 18:04
You're so brainwashed and you talk about science. 555
2019-06-25 19:35
#192
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Latvia BionicRick 
You copy pasted 100 terrible studies from some vegan blog, please don't talk about science. You didn't even check them beforehand and have 0 argument when they got BTFOd. Just stop. Go eat your grains cooked in byproduct oil like a good boy.
2019-06-25 19:37
Even 5% can be enough, 10% is safe af.
2019-06-25 20:45
#211
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Latvia BionicRick 
You'd literally have to eat grains on grains to get only 5% of your calories from fat. Especially since fat provides 9 calories per gram, as opposed to only 4 per gram from carbs. The whole "fats are bad" meme needs to die. Your body literally turns excess carbs into fat for storage anyway. If you are on ketosis instead, you use fat stores for energy in the first place, allowing you to remain leaner. According to some studies staying lean and having a higher muscle to fat ratio is beneficial for health.
2019-06-26 02:08
You won't get only 5% of fat with "grains and grains", you have to be on proper raw vegan diet (aka fruitarian) to maintain these numbers, and with regular vegan diet you get about 10% usually. I didn't even say "fats are bad" so idk why you did bring it here. Neither I said anything like "fat makes you fat". I tried diets with high/medium/low fat amounts and just don't see how is 10% "not nearly enough", that's it.
2019-06-26 03:33
#235
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Latvia BionicRick 
I was gonna stop replying to you, but "fruitarian"? Jesus, this is definitely my last response, won't waste more time on you. Fruit is literally mostly sugar, there's a reason it's treated as dessert in balanced diets. Imagine thinking eating dessert 6 times a day is good for you. inb4 muh nutrients, fruit has been getting less nutritious and more and more filled with sugar since like the 70s.
2019-06-27 16:40
You can assume that such thing as "carnivore diet" is suitable for someone but can't assume that "fruitarian" is suitable for some people as well. Narrow minded much, huh? Eating fruits as a "dessert", i.e. after any other food, is not good idea, so all these "balanced" diets are probably bullshit, sorry. "Fruit doesn’t combine well with other foods. The reason is that fruit contains simple sugars that require no digestion. Thus, they will not stay for a long time in the stomach. Other foods, such as foods rich in fat, protein and starch, will stay in the stomach for a longer period of time because they require more digestion. So if you eat fruit after a meal, the fruit sugar will stay for too long in the stomach and ferment". "Fruit is literally mostly sugar"... Are you dumb? Fresh raw fruits are mostly water, even fucking banana has like 75% of water and watermelon, for example, has 92%. Ever heard about "glycemic index" and "glycemic load"? "The glycemic load (GL) of food is a number that estimates how much the food will raise a person's blood glucose level after eating it. Glycemic load estimates the impact of carbohydrate consumption using the glycemic index while taking into account the amount of carbohydrates that are consumed in a serving. GL is a GI-weighted measure of carbohydrate content. For instance, watermelon has a high GI, but a typical serving of watermelon does not contain many carbohydrates, so the glycemic load of eating it is low". Also fiber in fruits slows sugar absorption. Fruits has nothing to do with regular "dessert" which usually consist of white sugar, refined carbs, fats, milk, eggs, almost no fiber. If you don't understand fundamental difference between these two then we have nothing to talk about indeed, lol.
2019-06-27 18:35
#239
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Latvia BionicRick 
I didn't say fruit is the same as dessert, I said most diets treat it as if it were dessert, because you should only have it in small portions to satisfy sweet tooth. Funny that you mention bananas and watermelon, two of the most unnatural, man-made fruits out there. Both of which you'd have to eat by the truckload to actually get enough calories and some nutrition. I'd be genuinely interested in seeing a day of your diet. Are your teeth rotten to shit? With the amount of acid and sugar you consume. Or do you brush them like 6 times a day?
2019-06-29 21:57
> I didn't say fruit is the same as dessert You didn't say that but you obviously meant it since you said: > Imagine thinking eating dessert 6 times a day is good for you. And you just confirmed it by the fact that you don't understand the difference between natural glucose and fructose in fruits and refined/processed white sugar in sweets (desserts). You said you're gonna stop replying to me and I agree that you should do it, because your nutrition knowledge is literally zero, so educate yourself before talking about things you don't know/understand. I don't stick to some certain diet, and actually if I was you I'd rather care about rot processes in your own body since that's what will happen with your intestinal microflora on carnivore diet.
2019-06-30 06:06
#243
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Latvia BionicRick 
>Fructose specifically will lead to fatty liver, insulin resistance and eventually type 2 diabetes. But the accompanying concern is that the high insulin levels will also lead to obesity. >Fructose overconsumption directly produces fatty liver, which in turn directly creates insulin resistance. Fructose is five to ten times more likely than glucose to cause fatty liver. Go eat a banana, you're not you when you're hungry.
2019-06-30 15:46
You're probably talking about "fructose" as sweetener (sugar replacement), because >While some sweet fruits and vegetables contain fructose, they provide relatively low amounts. Top kek. The more you open your mouth the more stupid you look, so make yourself a favour and learn something about nutrition before talking, and especially before talking to me. Also why would I eat banana in the summer when I can eat strawberry, sweet cherry, apricot, peach, nectarine, honeymelon, raspberry, blueberry... LUL. Oh, and don't forget that FRUITS ARE MOSTLY WATER. xD
2019-06-30 16:45
#249
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Latvia BionicRick 
>FRUIT IS MOSTLY WATER LE XDDD HAHA >Meat is mostly the muscle tissue of an animal. Most animal muscle is roughly 75% water, 20% protein, and 5% fat, carbohydrates So is meat you moron.
2019-07-01 16:19
Lul, I didn't say anything about meat, chill, boy.
2019-07-01 17:04
#257
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Latvia BionicRick 
You keep saying how fruit is mostly water, for some reason? Probably because I said there's a lot of sugar, so you're trying to divert how it has more water than sugar. I'm just letting your dumb ass know that most living organisms are MOSTLY water, it isn't specific to fruit.
2019-07-01 20:49
> I said there's a lot of sugar Why are you lying again if it's not too hard to scroll up and see that you clearly said > Fruit is literally mostly sugar "Literally", Carl! And your statement about water in meat doesn't make any sense in the context of our conversation while mine does because water lowers glycemic load of fruits...
2019-07-01 20:56
#268
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Latvia BionicRick 
Water is the building block of life, but since your argument is weak AF all you can do is complain about the way I worded something. Obviously fruit is made up of mostly water. For example, a banana is 75% water and about 23% carbohydrates. In 100g of bananas there's 12g of sugar. Wow, would you look at that? MORE THAN HALF of the mass of a banana, which isn't water, is in fact sugar.
2019-07-01 21:01
> #235 BionicRick > Fruit is literally mostly sugar > #268 BionicRick > Obviously fruit is made up of mostly water. I'm glad you finally learned something.
2019-07-01 21:03
#271
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Latvia BionicRick 
Good to know you have nothing left to say. Have a nice day.
2019-07-01 21:05
It took you 4 days to learn that frutis are mostly water, I can only imagine how much time I'll have to spend to teach you something more complicate... No thanks.
2019-07-01 21:07
#278
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Latvia BionicRick 
You were clinging onto the way I phrased something for 4 days in a desperate attempt to win an argument. If you have to be a petty cuck you've clearly already lost.
2019-07-01 21:09
I don't need to win since you make yourself lose as soon as you open your mouth and spread stupidity. I'm not even talking about your lie, pathetic attempts to swallow words and give mixed messages.
2019-07-01 21:14
#286
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Latvia BionicRick 
The only mixed message I've sent so far is that meat created intelligent organisms, since you were somehow born. I guess there are outliers in every system.
2019-07-01 21:16
Sometimes it's better to have the courage to just admit that you made a mistakes, nothing is wrong with that.
2019-07-01 21:18
+1 to this.
2019-06-25 20:44
Seems expensive to me, unless you go shoot your own roos or goats, or whatever roams free in your country.
2019-06-21 01:13
#165
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United States Acehavok 
I mean if you can afford it, and you don't develop digestive issues, or get protein poisoning, then go for it.
2019-06-21 03:08
0/8
2019-06-21 03:11
#169
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Liechtenstein (Ys) 
I have been on a carnivore style diet for 18 months now. I do consume some fruit occasionally, and lots of raw milk (and dairy in general). I do dry-fast once per week in addition to some soft intermittent fasting. Just try it out and stop listening to all of the precured doctors with their PhDs from Google Search University. Adapt it to your personal needs.
2019-06-21 03:41
This is retarded. Want to be healthy? Eat a little bit of everything (except poison) and you'll be fine. It's called omnivores and that's the reason human teeth are the way they are. Bunch of wannabe healthy models! Grow a pair and eat both plants and meat!
2019-06-21 04:26
its not a diet. its a lifestyle
2019-06-25 17:26
I eat whatever I please at any given moment, and thats what tells me im at the top of the food chain but if your goal is fitness reasons and brain power, I wouldnt discard the ketogenic diet, but thats very hard for normal people 0 carbs , and moderate to low protein, rest just vegan stuff and oils/fats
2019-06-26 02:11
#218
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Latvia BionicRick 
I think most suggest 20 - 30% calories from protein, 70 - 80% from fat. That's not hard at all imo, considering protein has less than half the calories of fat per gram. It's pretty much a 2:1 split in terms of weight of food consumed.
2019-06-26 02:24
its not hard technically, but most people cant even last the keto flu, and many who do, dont have the discipline to stick with it. i think its easy too, but from general opinion and feedback it just seems people are addicted to carbs :/
2019-06-26 02:37
I did this diet for 1 year, I was 133 kg, the result is that today I am 96 kg and my health has improved a lot. It basically consumes pork and beef and leaves.
2019-06-26 02:12
#219
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United States CrispyBox 
The only thing I know about carnivore diets is that the inuit people had them and they lived fine because they ate pretty much all of the animal which gave them all their nutrients that they needed. My guess is that if you're only going to eat the "normal" meat like red meat and stuff then it's not going to be very good for you.
2019-06-26 02:23
#220
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Latvia BionicRick 
Some people claim to be fine eating only beef, however I personally don't do that. I consume fish, eggs, dairy, liver and lean meat.
2019-06-26 02:26
I just eat whatever, I love my diet, once read that apple causes cancer so dont care about nothing anymore
2019-06-26 02:26
#222
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Latvia BionicRick 
Pretty sure it isn't what we consume that causes illness, it's how what we consume has been produced. The nutritional value of pretty much all vegetables has dropped significantly since the 90s, and even more so since the 70s. As if that wasn't bad enough, we're genetically adding more sugar to the fruits.
2019-06-26 02:30
So that's why experts say I need 500g of beggies per day ?? If it was 70's 250g would be enough ?
2019-06-26 02:32
#251
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Latvia BionicRick 
Sorry, your reply got burried in my notifications. I'm not entirely sure about that, I think the American dietary guidelines haven't changed for a long time, so that could indeed be the case. The food pyramid as a whole is just a joke at this point, since the base of the pyramid is all grains, including pasta, white bread etc.
2019-07-01 16:22
Hmm we have here "plate model" and it always mentions dark rice or dark pasta. Rye bread with food. Nothing white
2019-07-01 16:25
#254
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Latvia BionicRick 
Seems like the Finnish food pyramid suggests mostly vegetables, then grains in the form of oat meal and (darker?) looking bread. media.mnn.com/assets/images/2017/10/finl.. This is the American food pyramid. static01.nyt.com/images/2011/06/03/busin.. Seems to suggest a lot of bread and pasta, both of which are probably the worst grains you can eat. Also a lot less meat / dairy than the Finnish one.
2019-07-01 16:28
Study anthropology- the very basic idea of this diet that early/ proto humans ate only meat is wrong Study the placebo effect - that will describe how all these people claim it cured their arthritis/ depression Also you can watch this video from a doctor (and most importantly someone who is not trying to sell you his meal plan) youtu.be/L2eU96vCCFU You should always stay away from these fad diets as they are just made to look great on paper. Science is not what feels right or should be right, it is what is right. You don't invent diets(like this one), you discover them(like the keto diet discovered when we saw that newborns primarily used ketones for energy). Just keep your mind open and mouth shut and extensively research any diet you may want to follow.
2019-06-26 06:47
Well said.
2019-06-26 11:24
#290
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Latvia BionicRick 
It's ironic that some people in this thread think that those recommending a carnivore diet are trying to sell something. How would they sell you a "meal plan" when you literally just eat meat + water?
2019-07-01 21:32
I feel there is a condescending undertone in your words( if its not then im really sorry), so I'll keep this short. The latter half of my post is for all diets in general and not just the carnivore diet. Also heres the site of the maker of the diet selling meal plans which inherently is nothing wrong but makes you think about the motivations behind the conception of the diet carnivoretrainingsystem.mykajabi.com/car..
2019-07-02 07:47
Only Meat+ water?? Hope you know what scurvy is Im pretty sute you need multivitamin suppliments with this diet. Edit: Heres another gem by Dr shawn maker saying you don't get scurvy from vit c deficiency (technically he said you need less vit c in this diet which has ZERO vit c by itself) m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyd58guVdek Also the fact that this guy is a doctor saying this has red flags all over it
2019-07-02 07:56
Cool to see the word spreading but HLTV will be HLTV so
2019-06-26 07:57
go keto like wujek luki
2019-06-29 21:58
you mean paleo
2019-06-30 18:45
what u need a diet for? just eat what makes u happy life is way to short to be insecure.
2019-07-01 16:20
#253
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Latvia BionicRick 
Easier to be happy when your diet isn't giving you chronic fatigue, brain fog, acne etc.
2019-07-01 16:25
this has nothing to with diet right?
2019-07-01 20:54
#262
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Latvia BionicRick 
There are countless people claiming carnivore diet, or at least keto, improved their brain function and in some cases even cured their autoimmune diseases. Personally, I never had issues like that, but in the short amount of time I've been on carnivore it has helped me a lot with acne.
2019-07-01 20:56
Well you clearly need to improve your brain function although I doubt "neanderthal diet" will help you with that yet it perfectly suits your IQ.
2019-07-01 20:58
#270
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Latvia BionicRick 
Yes, the diet which helped us evolve into the incredibly smart animals we are today is definitely making me dumb. Thanks for your insight banana man.
2019-07-01 21:04
u can't compare that to nowadays unless u hunt ur own food its all poisoned pushed with water and fkin hormones.
2019-07-01 21:05
#274
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Latvia BionicRick 
Implying the same isn't true for plants. Just replace hormones with pesticides and whatever other shit they spray on those fields.
2019-07-01 21:07
just eat what u feel like its gonna be fine.
2019-07-01 21:14
LUL, why are you so triggered by banana when the context clearly says that I despise it?
2019-07-01 21:09
BS. Just look at your teeth. Not even going to argue.
2019-07-01 16:31
#266
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Poland FitPolak 
Lack of micronutrients -* Tons of saturated fats, that might cause heart problems -* Another low amount of carbs useless diet ? -* Clap clap
2019-07-01 21:00
#276
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Latvia BionicRick 
Please do research before posting dumb shit, thanks.
2019-07-01 21:07
#277
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Poland FitPolak 
Post me your research
2019-07-01 21:08
#282
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Latvia BionicRick 
Do you need research to tell you what micronutrients are found in meat? Grass-fed beef literally has almost every micronutrient you need. Vitamin A is found in liver, vitamins E and C are needed in much smaller quantities than pushed by "experts". The research regarding fat and heart diseases has already been posted before in this thread, can't be asked to look for it again just to convince one person. Essentially the problems of heart disease stem from seed oils in combination with refined carbs, not animal fats.
2019-07-01 21:13
#287
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Poland FitPolak 
Do you understand the fact that not every micronutrient can be found in Diary and Meat? XD who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/hea.. You might put the same mindset in fruitarianism as well, because first people at some point in their lives ate only fruits.
2019-07-01 21:16
#289
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Latvia BionicRick 
whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrientpr.. Every single amino acid, every B vitamin, virtually every mineral to some extent. Vitamin D should be acquired from sunlight, I already told you about A, E and C. What is it missing exactly? In order to improve omega 3 / 6 ratio, fish should be eaten couple times a week.
2019-07-01 21:23
#291
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Poland FitPolak 
Nothing about saturated fats? Expected Vitamin PP? Vitamin K? Folic acid? Magnesium? Vitamin D between Autumn-Winter?
2019-07-01 21:33
#292
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Latvia BionicRick 
It literally lists every single saturated, monounsaturated, polyunsaturated fatty acid. You must have missed it. Vitamin K is also mentioned. Folic acid = folate, is mentioned. Vitamin D is also found in egg yolks, fatty fish and dairy, so you should be fine. Never heard of vitamin PP, apparently it's B3, it's mentioned... So is magnesium.
2019-07-01 21:38
#293
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Poland FitPolak 
I didn't talk about source of fats, I talked about overconsumption of saturated fats. Proper pancreas function require 100-150g of carbs how do you fix that?
2019-07-01 21:40
#294
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Latvia BionicRick 
What??? Where the hell are you getting these "facts" from, or are you trolling at this point? All I could find online was that high carbs LEAD to pancreatic cancer, nothing about pancreas requiring a specific amount of carbs to function.
2019-07-01 21:43
#295
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Poland FitPolak 
Am I? I think you're the trolling one, have fun achcieving balanaced diet with only Meat and eggs XD
2019-07-01 21:48
#296
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Latvia BionicRick 
Why even ask serious questions when you clearly don't care? Keep following a diet pushed by the same people who want to keep you braindead and enslaved for the rest of your life. The XD is a nice touch btw.
2019-07-01 21:50
#297
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Poland FitPolak 
I'm enslaved af with eating healthy high carb diet, full of micros and balanced macros. Use the diet that will make your heart trash in few years. Nice missing points btw.
2019-07-01 21:52
#298
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Latvia BionicRick 
>high carb >healthy Choose one.
2019-07-01 22:37
#299
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Poland FitPolak 
You Mirin them healthy thick veins?
2019-07-01 22:39
#300
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Latvia BionicRick 
You probably cook your barely digestible grains in sunflower oil. Imagine unironically thinking there's anything healthy about your veins.
2019-07-01 22:41
#301
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Poland FitPolak 
I use beautiful olive oil full of nonsaturated fats with a beautiful amount of veggies that cointains fiber in it. You will never achcieve this kind of beauty in your diet men)))
2019-07-01 22:43
#302
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Latvia BionicRick 
Eh, I'll give you that one, olive oil is probably the best plant based fat you can use. It actually has more saturated fat than sunflower oil, though, not that it's a bad thing. You should look into the effect of triglycerides on the body, rather than saturated fat. twitter.com/Mangan150/status/10033163027..
2019-07-01 22:48
#303
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Poland FitPolak 
At this point I will clearly take a look at my beautiful hand: imgur.com/a/cBd1fi7 and that thick ass veins, which overflow with blood cells
2019-07-01 22:51
#304
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Latvia BionicRick 
>uploaded 2 mins ago Yikes
2019-07-01 22:53
#305
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Poland FitPolak 
Of course. Its right after 85g carb meal. High carb life men)
2019-07-01 22:54
#307
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Latvia BionicRick 
Feel free to eat whatever you want, I'm not gonna try to stop you. But don't join a discussion spreading bullshit when you have zero knowledge.
2019-07-01 22:59
#308
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Poland FitPolak 
I discourage people to do shitty diets, when they can enjoy themselves and eat great things.
2019-07-01 23:00
#309
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Latvia BionicRick 
Whenever I ate grains I found it difficult to get 3000 calories per day without feeling stuffed. Seasoned steak cooked in butter tastes so much better than any carb out there.
2019-07-01 23:03
#310
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Poland FitPolak 
White rice White bread Riceflakes Rice Waffles Pretty easy carbs to digest, wont make you full for long.
2019-07-01 23:05
#312
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Latvia BionicRick 
3/4 of those are rice. All 4 have terrible micros. And my point about the taste still stands.
2019-07-01 23:09
#314
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Poland FitPolak 
That's exactly why veggies, meat and diary exist in there.
2019-07-01 23:11
#315
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Latvia BionicRick 
And that's exactly why you can eliminate grains and eat only veggies, meat and dairy. Unless you're lazy and want to stuff yourself with easy calories.
2019-07-01 23:12
#316
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Poland FitPolak 
I'm I want to remain healthy, full of glycogen body and thick ass veins.
2019-07-01 23:16
#267
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United States Troglxdyte 
You're retarded. Good job doing your "research", you fucking dolt. Natural selection at its finest.
2019-07-01 21:00
+1.
2019-07-01 21:05
$10 on paypal for the first person that explains to me wtf a "carnivore" means
2019-07-01 21:11
#284
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Latvia BionicRick 
>A carnivore, meaning "meat eater", is an organism that derives its energy and nutrient requirements from a diet consisting mainly or exclusively of animal tissue. Using a search engine is really hard, I know.
2019-07-01 21:14
And now the million dollar question Do you sincerely believe humans fall into your above mentioned definition??
2019-07-02 07:59
Humans have never been carnivores.
2019-07-02 07:58
#322
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Reunion 1iquser 
Bruh Edit: wait
2019-07-02 11:41
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