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Navi #12, Furia #5
France mars_2_moon_niko_0_major 
HLTV RANKING IS A JOKE
2019-06-24 08:58
#1
ile | 
Finland Vkims 
Navi will be #14 today XD
2019-06-24 09:00
+1
2019-06-24 09:16
#30
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Denmark BriTe 
+1
2019-06-24 09:20
#57
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
+1
2019-06-24 10:43
+1
2019-06-24 16:31
#107
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India Noobdian1 
+1
2019-06-24 16:48
#13
2019-06-24 21:31
#161
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Russia Ypp1 
+1 xd
2019-06-24 21:43
+1
2019-06-25 00:31
boombla is too heavy to navi could be in top1 hahaha
2019-06-25 14:19
#198
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Serbia nocturnSRB 
xd
2019-06-25 21:22
#2
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Australia Shlapsham 
navi is a joke
2019-06-24 08:59
#9
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt joke scene
2019-06-24 09:06
I've seen you many times joking over other countries about their scene. Why don't you show your flag first and then talk?
2019-06-24 11:07
this^^
2019-06-24 11:07
#84
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt 1 player scene
2019-06-24 11:08
Chris de God
2019-06-24 16:50
His flag: I'm about to end this man's whole career So he uses EU flag LUL
2019-06-24 11:44
what a terrible joke
2019-06-24 16:39
#120
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Europe zero_hoes 
+1
2019-06-24 18:04
#199
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Belarus SnakieNoK 
jew supposed to be comedian
2019-06-25 21:24
why american so angry when i make haha :(
2019-06-26 10:14
#108
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India Noobdian1 
This
2019-06-24 16:48
he is usual ukrainian s1mple fan
2019-06-24 21:13
#163
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Russia Ypp1 
+1
2019-06-24 21:43
#89
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Russia ks_bestigl 
+1
2019-06-24 11:31
+1
2019-06-24 20:29
#3
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Mongolia FoxOutOfGlocks 
na'vi doesn't even play events, ofc they are shit rank, stay mad
2019-06-24 09:00
#8
shox | 
Mongolia Sythapilla 
huts
2019-06-24 09:05
a niffauw
2019-06-24 09:07
doe normaal
2019-06-24 10:54
#18
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Astralis don't play tournaments for 4 months. Navi won during that time a top event. So atm they are higher ranked than faze, Astralis etc. But hltv ranking is crap.
2019-06-24 09:10
#41
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Sweden Lagge15 
What you wrote but in other words: "I don't understand the ranking system. Therefore it sucks!"
2019-06-24 09:51
#50
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Nope. You dont understand it obv. The ranking system should show what rank the teams deserve NOW. Dont what teams did a year ago. You are stupid that is why you dont get it.
2019-06-24 10:31
#56
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Nepal AsKyEyY 
they dont play event and their main event that gave them points were long time ago, second thing is that they add new player that has almost 0 points
2019-06-24 10:43
#75
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
attending to Blast should give also zero points. but HLTV gives points for that cuz they suck Astralis and device dicks.
2019-06-24 10:55
holy shit why so mad
2019-06-25 00:30
typical german thinks he knows everything, but getting hartzIV because he cant get a job
2019-06-24 10:48
#69
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
German knows best always. So go away to your FPÖ and be a Nazi as usually.
2019-06-24 10:54
*you think you know best, but you dont.
2019-06-24 10:55
#88
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Sweden Lagge15 
The ranking system presented here on HLTV is not provided by HLTV but by an analyst service who account points for matches won. You can'y lose points by losing only by not playing (points decay over time) and Na'Vi got their rank because they haven't been very active and they also lost points because they no longer got Edward in the roster. If you understand how the ranking works you shouldn't be mad at HLTV or get angry because some team lose position when they don't play. The system is far from perfect but it is what we got and if it matter for the ORGs they better be more active
2019-06-24 11:27
#128
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Faze changed 3 players last half year. And the first kick was their IGL. Navi kick Edward who is nothing in Navi, who count for nothing and it justifies a drop from top 5 to 12? Navi won Starladder this year also better than Faze Blast win. They were more active than Astralis It has nothing to do how it works. it has to do how it should work. I guess you dont understand the difference. A ranking system should show the strength of a team right now. Dont from the past. or do you watch chart rankings and see M.jackson at top cuz he sold once in time over 1 billion copies of an album? or do you see the Beatles there? No, because it is absolutely bullshit to do that. So, in the end, you give arguments for my pov. The ranking is shit.
2019-06-24 19:14
#132
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Sweden Lagge15 
Again you prove you don't understand the ranking.
2019-06-24 20:27
#181
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
again you prove you dont get the topic and you dont get the point how a ranking system should work.
2019-06-25 13:00
#193
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Sweden Lagge15 
The ranking system is not a popularity contest nor a few people ranking on how they feel the teams should be ranked. It is a point system detetmined by your recent wins. Sure it is flawed (like how GL lost 17 points for no reason) but it is still not what you think it is
2019-06-25 15:12
#157
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Greece Petsos 
Dude Navi played their last match 1 month ago and lost 1-2 to Heroic. When they dont play events they lose points for inactivity and also they lose points when other teams win events.When lulquid won the pro league every team that didnt participate in the esl pro league lost 100 points Astralis lost 200.If u dont understand how it works just dont comment
2019-06-24 21:42
#180
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
the group stage of EPL is the part of the event. So they played an event. As I said It matter how it should work. You also dont get the difference. The ranking system should show the power of a team right now and dont what they did last year. With this Astralis wouldnt be top3. Faze wouldn't be top 10 and Furia wouldn't be top 10 as well. This is also the topic of the thread. That the ranking system is shit. Instead of defending it like a retard work on the topic.
2019-06-25 13:01
#207
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United States Jammin800k 
So let's see your top 10.
2019-07-05 04:45
Holy shit you are braindead Writing is not even comprehensible
2019-06-24 18:07
#122
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
br71l is real. Go and cry like Neymar that is all you can do. Say Navi is top 12 say it and believe it. If you do be happy or you are braindead.
2019-06-24 19:03
Makes irrelevant comparison to football and ignores completely what I say. Typical Braindead German.
2019-06-25 00:06
And Astralis deserve the ranking they have, so do Na'Vi. Na'Vi bombed out of several events, and some they don't even attend. Astralis won the major and is mostly having high-placings in what they attend. So no, the ranking isn't a joke.
2019-06-25 00:11
nope, you still don't understand it.
2019-06-25 13:11
#59
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
bro why you forgot that main factor why navi now far for top10 that lose in esl quals. quals!! not main tour. fucking quals. navi`s falling was started already. I guess in near future navi can be even far for top20.
2019-06-24 10:47
#72
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Faze play shit but still a top 10 team? hahaha. Your argument is invalid.
2019-06-24 10:54
#81
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
faze was attended in many tours . esl too, navi not, and not matter how shit playing faze cuz they getting points just for invates. you guess if they was won chinas starladder than should to be top5 till to major, need asked in navis bosses why they missed many tours
2019-06-24 11:06
#123
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Faze changed 3 players in the last half year. Navi change one player and drop from top 4 to top 12? And the guys they kicked had absolutely no impact ingame. This doesn't show how good Navi is atm. Navi won starladder faze one blast... do the math. Tell me Navi as the 12 best teams in the world say it without laughing inside.
2019-06-24 19:09
#143
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
navi top4 now by skills (s1mple and elec only honestly) thats I can agreed with you. but against. position in ranking decided points for attending in tournaments. after madrid remain about 2 months. how shit was playing faze astralis liquid not matter who till to 12 ranking place, they all was playing . navi only esl quals and thats all. I`m navi fan but in my opinion they deserve current #13. If they`ll finished cologne in early stage than can be even worse top17-20 and after. till to major seems also navi without tournaments.
2019-06-24 21:20
#153
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Russia amc20 
ESL quarter finals???
2019-06-24 21:36
#117
flamie | 
Other g3ks1 
Astralis didnt play 1 month not 4. and Navi kicked edward and thats why they lost points
2019-06-24 17:22
#124
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Blast doesn't count as a tournament. it isn't worthy to give points for that trash.
2019-06-24 19:01
#129
flamie | 
Other g3ks1 
im in shoke man)))
2019-06-24 19:28
#134
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
from what time kicking players affect on ranking points?
2019-06-24 21:00
#135
flamie | 
Other g3ks1 
hltv points are giving to players not team
2019-06-24 21:09
#139
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
so why we surpising that navi now on #13)
2019-06-24 21:14
#141
flamie | 
Other g3ks1 
im not
2019-06-24 21:15
#142
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
me too. but guy on upper dont want to beleive in that))
2019-06-24 21:17
#175
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
As i said. the ranking system is bullshit. And any answer from you guys prove it. it also reveals how stupid people like you are. Watch Faze still no rank lost even they change more players than navi.
2019-06-25 12:54
#188
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
you want to see navi top1?) you so blind bro. wannot to see on clear current reality.
2019-06-25 14:00
navi changed edward to boombl4 which made them lose points, also they havent been playing tournaments lately which also makes them lose points. Once they show action with their new roster, they will go up in rankings for sure
2019-06-24 21:30
#176
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
they kicked Edward the guy with the most negative impact on the team. But thanks you also prove how stupid the ranking system is. Faze kicked karrigan, Adren and put NEO in and they are ahead of Navi? so 1 kick has more value than 3 roster changes. Navi played first and second EPL Groupstage so they also did something in the last months.
2019-06-25 12:53
But that something isn't worth a lot of points... does a team deserve top 5 for losing a BEST OF 3 against a top 20 team ? You even said hltv ranking should reflect their skill rn and... it's shit /closed Btw your kick to roaster change is retarded just say faze kicked 2 navi 1
2019-06-25 14:12
Oh and navi is also getting points from blast pro event so saying to remove the points faze got will not help navi... youre retarded
2019-06-25 14:15
The world ranking is based on teams' achievements over the past year (with severe decay in points throughout each month), recent form over the last 2 months and performance at the last 10 LAN events. All of that is predicated around a 3-man core each team is required to have in order to retain their past points. Online matches and tournaments are included, but with a diminishing factor which means they cannot make a big difference among the top teams, and mainly serve to put new teams on the map.
2019-06-24 09:00
more invite - more better ranking bad only elo ranking good
2019-06-24 09:00
agree 7.Furia 48.NaVi
2019-06-24 09:01
#12
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt no scene
2019-06-24 09:07
Renegades bestest
2019-06-24 09:08
even lower than navi
2019-06-24 09:12
with AUG lol
2019-06-24 11:15
#51
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Russia MyDuck 
Name 47 teams better than NaVi or i will kill you
2019-06-24 10:39
raport dude
2019-06-24 10:40
#53
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Russia MyDuck 
new here ??
2019-06-24 10:41
no u
2019-06-24 10:41
Well once navi starts playing again they might go up. Not sure if you follow the scene or not.
2019-06-24 09:01
#11
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
NaVi will be top 1 after they win Cologne and next Major and s1mple will be MVP in both.
2019-06-24 09:07
+1 but even now they are top3
2019-06-24 09:08
#16
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2019-06-24 09:09
+1
2019-06-24 09:12
Wtf did I just read
2019-06-24 16:37
0/8 Na’vi will never win a major and they’ll never win Cologne they’ll win just that kind of tournaments without Liquid,Ence,Astralis and Vitality and maybe a blast if they are lucky but small chances
2019-06-24 09:16
#25
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
fuck off NaVi already won Cologne last year and Blast too. They will win Cologne again and also the next major and s1mple will be MVP.
2019-06-24 09:17
In the future omg you are so stupid.S1mple is great flamie is useless trash even worse than Zeus,electronic is pretty shit this year,Zeus is actually doing his job fine and Boom was good in Winstrike idk but if they don’t kick flamie they’ll never be top5 again
2019-06-24 09:22
Boombl4 is a god in FPL i've seen
2019-06-24 16:32
-FPL -facing top teams in world You know what to do...
2019-06-24 16:47
All i've got i'm afraid, at least we can hope he is good :)
2019-06-24 16:49
I do hope for that for sure
2019-06-24 16:55
#112
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United States k3ar 
“Electronic is pretty shit this year.” Bruh, have you seen his stats? He is still one of the highest rated players, albeit with less maps.
2019-06-24 16:53
#49
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Finland CucumberFIN 
ENCE winning both of these events EZ4ENCE
2019-06-24 10:29
#66
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
ahahahahahah ence ahahahahahahahahaha
2019-06-24 10:52
#68
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Finland CucumberFIN 
ahahahahahahahahaha navi ahahahahaahahaha
2019-06-24 10:53
#70
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt major fluke
2019-06-24 10:54
#78
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Finland CucumberFIN 
nt boombitch
2019-06-24 10:57
#27
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
“never win cologne”
2019-06-24 09:18
THEY’LL NEVER WIN IN FUTURE DUMB SHIT Jesus you are so stupid
2019-06-24 09:20
#32
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
“never” not ever
2019-06-24 09:22
#15
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Sweden Lagge15 
Seems likely since Furia play more matches and play better CS than Na'Vi
2019-06-24 09:08
#17
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
fan of Gamer Legion LMAO
2019-06-24 09:09
#38
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Sweden Lagge15 
>real argument >false ad hominem Surprised that too many go to option number two! But sure I can continue the argument like this: Na'Vi dropped a few points by changing roster You don't get how the ranking works Na'Vi don't play and when they do they don't win that much. But sure. Na'Vi should be #1 because ypu think so
2019-06-24 09:45
#63
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
they are #1 but not in biased hltv rankings. They will win Cologne and Major and s1mple will be MVP and after that hltv won't have any excuse to not have them as #1
2019-06-24 10:51
#90
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Sweden Lagge15 
Either you are extremely delusional, stupid and/or a troll Either way: this discussion can't continue since you have no grasp of reality
2019-06-24 11:31
Even if this happens they will not overtake Liquid. Liquid has done too much and Na'Vi has not done anything for a good period of time. They will not reach #1 at all this year. Sorry to burst your bubble
2019-06-24 16:49
#119
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
Liquid has done too much? Like win 10 majors? NaVi will win Cologne best event after major and also win the major so yes they will be top1
2019-06-24 18:04
Marking this post to laugh later
2019-06-24 21:36
#172
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
kkkk
2019-06-25 00:27
#22
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United States Slyckz 
hard to say if they play better cs than navi now if navi just dont play it
2019-06-24 09:13
#39
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Sweden Lagge15 
True. We'll see soon enough. If GL could counter strat Furia and win 4 straight halfs then Na'Vi should as well.
2019-06-24 09:46
#130
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United States Slyckz 
i dont know who gl is
2019-06-24 19:42
#131
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United States Slyckz 
oh never mind just didnt know the name
2019-06-24 19:43
because roster change - edward +boombl4 i guess. And no games since (april i guess?)
2019-06-24 09:10
navi is shit
2019-06-24 09:18
#34
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt 1 player scene NaVi greatest eSports Org of all time
2019-06-24 09:23
0/8
2019-06-24 10:16
#65
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt Ez4ropz's alt
2019-06-24 10:52
1.lineup change 2.how can you rank them higher atm if they don't play... This topic is a joke
2019-06-24 09:18
their points should decay slower if they dont play more invite = high rank nice ranking wtf
2019-06-24 09:23
1 point man. How can they even be #12 if this roster hasn't played any match?
2019-06-24 10:52
Why slower? It's their fault that they don't play. That ranking works exactly the same for every single team. Why navi should be some kind of exception? Makes literally no sense at all. Navi doesn't deserve higher rank
2019-06-24 10:56
navi tier 3432 goofs
2019-06-24 09:19
#35
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8
2019-06-24 09:23
Sam2k tier 4993 goof user
2019-06-24 09:23
#62
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt weeb im tier 1 user
2019-06-24 10:50
tier 100*
2019-06-24 11:10
#93
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt fluke scene
2019-06-24 13:02
nt poor east european
2019-06-24 13:28
#95
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt fake sweden
2019-06-24 16:29
go suck s0mple's dick please
2019-06-24 16:44
#118
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
first of all its s1mple and if he wants me to ill gladly do it bitch.
2019-06-24 18:03
#40
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
it's because Na'Vi haven't played in a while, FURIA came second at ECS, that's why they got so many points.
2019-06-24 09:49
#42
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Germany Fl0RR3 
omegalul
2019-06-24 09:55
#43
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Sweden nabudareel 
Where will G2 Land in rankings today after the EPL run?
2019-06-24 09:56
navi with boombl4 game 0
2019-06-24 09:56
#45
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Philippines pepelulz 
BRUH NAVI HASENT PLAYED ANY EVENTS 0/8
2019-06-24 09:57
Don't be stupid, they just lost points because of changes in line-up. Without this change (with the same results), they would have 392 points, which put them in 6th place right behind Furia, which seems correct.
2019-06-24 10:18
#48
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Romania KennyShoxie1 
they lost points because of boombl4 joining + their last game played was in may
2019-06-24 10:19
#54
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France J0riS 
Don't worry tonight furia are out of top 5
2019-06-24 10:41
navi literally hasnt played for a month
2019-06-24 10:46
#61
Vodka | 
Europe Miichu 
Cloud9 31 this is joke
2019-06-24 10:49
#67
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
Na'vi is a joke
2019-06-24 10:53
Still a mystery to me how people still don't get how the ranking system works. You get to the top of the ranking by getting good placings in LAN tournaments. Simple as that.
2019-06-24 10:56
Furia is a joke
2019-06-24 10:56
Maybe because they changed one of their players and haven't played in quite a while?
2019-06-24 10:59
I think in upcoming events Na'Vi will be #5 in ranking
2019-06-24 11:01
navi just bad
2019-06-24 11:11
#91
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Ukraine KingOfSoloSex 
FURIA are good team. I like them. Not bestest but the're really good.
2019-06-24 11:39
#98
arT | 
Brazil PQD28 
What Navi did in 2019?
2019-06-24 16:33
won more events than MIBR, Furia and G2 combined LULW
2019-06-24 16:36
#103
arT | 
Brazil PQD28 
More than Furia? OMEGALUL. Not even MIBR bro, at least they won one online tournament, and G2 did well at EPL.
2019-06-24 16:41
Did Furia won something? I guess fucking not. NaVi_1_win_in_2019_Furia_MIBR_G2_0_Win_in_2019
2019-06-24 16:43
#113
arT | 
Brazil PQD28 
What Navi did in last 2 months? LUL
2019-06-24 16:53
who cares about what they did in last 2 months? We speaking about what they did in 2019, blind kid.
2019-06-24 16:56
#125
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Navi won a top event. With almost all top 10 teams at the tournament. Only the one who is afraid wasnt there.
2019-06-24 19:06
Navi won tier2 tournament
2019-06-24 21:28
>tier 2 >with every top 10 team except Liquid and Astralis Pick one
2019-06-24 21:29
they won only 1 tournament on mar 30th Liquid won 3 tournament Astralis won Major Furia second place tier1 tournament Vitality won some tier1 tournament Navi is shit 2019 G2 played in final ESL PRO
2019-06-24 21:33
Who cares about Astralis, Vitality and Liquid? We talk about MIBR, Furia, G2. Just fucking buy some glasses ffs.
2019-06-24 21:34
I said Furia and G2 played in the final of tier1 tournament Navi hasn't played tier1 tournament only semifinal of the major MIBR I don;t know what to say buy some dildo to calm down I don;t need glasses I have brain what does it have to do with it?Are you stupid?There need brain not glasses stupid kid
2019-06-24 21:39
R u braindamaged? They won fucking SLTV which IS tier 1 event. And if u think it's not - u must be fucking retarded. Stop wasting my time lil bitch and go and suck father's dick.
2019-06-24 21:41
Star ladder not tier1 tounrnament fucking hohol ebany
2019-06-24 21:43
Oh, u Ruski. So no more questions. I got you are 0iq kid. No need to reply me, ruski.
2019-06-24 21:44
and Navi is shit without S1mple it's true
2019-06-24 21:40
G2 shit w\o KennyS, Astralis shit without Magisk, Liquid shit without TwistZz. Great logic, nolifer.
2019-06-24 21:42
Astralis won Major without Magisk Liquid always has been tier1 team
2019-06-24 21:44
#183
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Russia Stepaval 
with s1mple LUL
2019-06-25 13:05
Liquid won last tier1 tournament russian stupid kid they are top1 now WITHOUT S1MPLE
2019-07-04 23:24
#206
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Russia Stepaval 
you said always retardo :D
2019-07-05 04:41
#196
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United States Jammin800k 
Device > Magisk
2019-06-25 20:05
Even if Navi is #12 rn they are still #5 actually. -flamie +sdy and they will be top 1-2
2019-06-24 16:35
#116
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United States k3ar 
A reminder that NaVi hasn’t beaten Liquid since the Boston Major with Zews stand in. Haven’t even taken a map off them since either.
2019-06-24 16:57
#126
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
and has to do what with furia #5 and navi #12?
2019-06-24 19:06
#152
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Vietnam comergod1 
Navi 4 majors Liquid 0 major
2019-06-24 21:36
#127
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Anyone who thinks this ranking system is good and shows the strength of a team atm should delete his hltv account.
2019-06-24 19:07
#138
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United States Jammin800k 
0/8 your ranking is probably much worse
2019-06-24 21:14
#184
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
dont give free points for attending tournaments. Only win and lose matters And then the if it was a 2:0 or 2:1 then the round difference. All 5 ranks are one "point group". As example you win against a team of top 5 you get the same points for the 1 or for the 5th You can also add some statistics calculation as "average wins" etc to make the ranking system more perfectly. Also, only the past 4 months are in that system.
2019-06-25 13:09
#195
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United States Jammin800k 
So beating Liquid would be worth as much as beating NRG? That would be a much worse system. Wtf does averge wins mean. Average wins over what? You do realize that after 3 months tournament values decay immensely right? They barely have any relevance.
2019-06-25 20:03
what do you mean? what has navi done? they are just like mibr, just familiar names
2019-06-24 21:11
Fair rankings
2019-06-24 21:15
FURIA IS STRONGER THEN NAVI only s1mple plays in Navi
2019-06-24 21:27
#149
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Vietnam comergod1 
What a shame. The best top at top 2, the 2nd best team at top 12. This ranking is broken pls report to hltv admins
2019-06-24 21:31
#159
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Poland GALA014 
navi has pause
2019-06-24 21:42
lol they don't even play tournaments should be out of the ranking because inativity lol
2019-06-24 21:44
#167
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Try understanding how the HLTV ranking system works before attempting to refer to the system and HLTV themselves as incompetent. Show some respect and learn some manners-- especially when it is you who cannot determine statistics correctly. Have a good day.
2019-06-24 21:48
#170
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Portugal MS_ 
+1
2019-06-25 00:09
#179
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United States CrispyBox 
+1
2019-06-25 12:57
#182
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
the system is shit and very incompetent. The ranking system has to show the strength of a team atm. So how good the teams are today at this moment.
2019-06-25 13:04
#194
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
The system has worked fine since it was first implemented because it uses a points system, lowered and highered with every waking match.
2019-06-25 15:19
#197
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United States Jammin800k 
How can it do that when teams actively skip tournaments for months? The system works great to tell you which teams are performing the best and which teams are falling behind.
2019-06-25 21:21
#202
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Romania TheWizard741 
+1
2019-06-26 10:29
#169
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Portugal MS_ 
No games played affects your HLTV raking, old NaVi (Edward) is easy top 10 or 7; new NaVi (Boombl4) let's see if they finally win a Mother F*cking Major
2019-06-25 00:08
s1mple and winning major lol
2019-06-26 10:22
navi hasen't played yet with new rosters while others in meenwhile have played, hence the 14 ranking or even maybe lower untill they play at the next event which is cologne. i mean how do you guys not understand this simple concept do you like being retarded or are you genuinely retarded
2019-06-25 12:53
#178
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Europe Drofwer 
wait for ESL One Cologne Navi will be top 5 again very soon...
2019-06-25 12:54
Wait NaVi vs Furia
2019-06-25 13:10
#187
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Lithuania a2kas 
NaVi gg
2019-06-25 13:12
furia is #7 rn but nt
2019-06-25 14:28
#203
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Romania TheWizard741 
First of all if a team makes roster changes than they lose points. Therefore Na'Vi lost some points bcos they removed Edward. Also they haven't played an event in such a long time so we don't really know their level anymore: they could either maintain their level or increase it(seems likely) or who knows maybe they won't be so good for a while. On the other hand Furia has been playing a decent number of events and have been getting good results against good teams. So it makes sense that they're higher ranked at this moment. About the whole Na'Vi won Starladder thingy: sure they did that but that was at the beginning of the year so the event is starting to lose relevance in the rankings and it was with another lineup so that doesn't matter. That win was with Edward not with Boombl4,they were that good with that lineup not with this one But you'll probably still be a delusional s1mple and Navi fangay who won't accept all the arguments brought to you
2019-06-26 10:37
so what? under certain circumstances, furia had a good chance to defeat the old navi. they showed a level at which they still have the ability to beat even new navi
2019-06-26 10:49
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