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G Pro Wireless >>>>> zowie
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Morocco dest- 
GPW is the best mouse out there, period. cant afford it? look for a used one. i managed to buy a used one for 80euro (the kid only used it for like a month)
2019-06-25 18:52
nothing come close to zowie shape, thats why people still use zowie, king of shape.
2019-06-25 23:19
#2
somebody | 
Myanmar xdcc 
zowie ergonomic shape. i just dont like mwheel
2019-06-25 23:23
#13
Poland rdkN 
sadly that's true
2019-06-26 01:02
#48
Loh | 
Russia Romashish 
+1
2019-06-26 05:10
#3
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Lithuania Manifestto 
Bought it , returned, zowie > g pro.
2019-06-25 23:22
#4
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Morocco dest- 
which zowie? lol
2019-06-25 23:43
#5
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Lithuania Manifestto 
So far i tried: EC1-a ec1-b ec2-b - Currently using ec2-a tried divina version too
2019-06-26 00:01
#7
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Morocco dest- 
what about scroll wheel & sidebuttons? i heard its trash on zowie mouses compared to logitech
2019-06-26 00:49
so what? if u like the shape and weight, its literally all that matters in competitive games... scroll wheel, buttons and wireless shit is nice to have, but doesn't make u a better player period zowie shape > all
2019-06-26 02:23
#31
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Finland timppati 
i never had problems with buttons or scroll
2019-06-26 02:23
+1
2019-06-26 09:05
You heard right
2019-06-26 08:59
#6
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Finland Aibbee 
if g403 were wireless (ik of g703) and be less heavy it would be the best of the best
2019-06-26 00:06
#8
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Morocco dest- 
theres a wireless g403 already no? or is it too heavy
2019-06-26 00:50
there is wireless g403, g703 same shape
2019-06-26 01:08
#19
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Finland Aibbee 
i know. but g703 is too heavy :/
2019-06-26 01:34
The Hero version is going to be lighter than the normal G703, weighting around 94g. Still heavier than the G403, but not THAT MUCH. You could always remove the weight cover. Keep in mind the cable weight and cable drag as well, that you wont feel with the wireless variant
2019-06-26 02:11
I Got the g703 and i have no problem using it...
2019-06-26 09:01
#64
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Finland Aibbee 
g403 and g703 are both amazing and the hero version will be too but what i ment is that if it were less heavy like 70g it would be the best
2019-06-26 13:29
Go try the steelseries 650 and come tell me my g703 is fat again i dare u mens ))))
2019-06-26 14:07
#70
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Finland Aibbee 
ffs try to understand. Both g403 and g703 are good but if they were less heavy they'd be even better.. ffs
2019-06-26 15:21
ffs chill bro i got u point xD but a "light" version isnt for all... i dont like playing with a ultra light mouse its a personal opinion i guess
2019-06-26 17:21
Shape > being wireless If you like gpw shape, it is surely the best there is. But many prefer fk or s1 shapes for example
2019-06-26 00:52
#10
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Turkey redbaron7 
G100s > GPro Wireless
2019-06-26 00:54
lul
2019-06-26 01:02
#29
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United States gtmaniacmda 
can't confirm, someone send me GPW so I can confirm
2019-06-26 02:19
lol I used that mouse and it was really good. It felt very natural. For me it is still the best mouse I have used, although I have not used gpro wireless, but i tried the gpro hero wired. g100s> new logitech mice
2019-06-26 02:59
#47
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Australia Pwnisher_ 
I've used g pro wired 3366 which is the same shape as hero, and I loved the shape. Then I used g pro wireless and I loved its shape even more, still using it
2019-06-26 05:09
#53
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Turkey redbaron7 
I don't like the mices with lots of buttons. G100s is pretty pure one and the shape is one of the best among the mices I've used. I use it with G440 hard pad, pretty same with n0thing's setup. Smooth af.
2019-06-26 07:09
G502 comes wireless right ? I'm gonna buy it I think
2019-06-26 00:55
#42
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United States theory^ 
I have same mouse 10k hrs and nova 1
2019-06-26 04:49
nice theory
2019-06-26 04:50
#14
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United States l1nkax 
Model O>G Pro
2019-06-26 01:04
+1
2019-06-26 07:16
#15
tarik | 
Morocco Most! 
Wireless is a scam, logidog sux. Zowie4life
2019-06-26 01:06
#18
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Morocco dest- 
can u explain why it is a scam?
2019-06-26 01:09
#22
tarik | 
Morocco Most! 
It has more delay than advertised even after major improvements over the last few years, it still can't top Zowie and wired mices in general.
2019-06-26 01:44
lol good bait
2019-06-26 04:35
#69
Germany ayyy 
guess your brain has also some delay
2019-06-26 14:44
ahahaa
2019-06-26 17:25
#76
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Morocco dest- 
proof?
2019-06-26 23:59
Just get a G305 and 3d print the bottom part of the FK2 with the 305 pcb support. There you go, you have a wireless FK2 with an upgraded sensor. thingiverse.com/thing:3710792
2019-06-26 01:43
#23
tarik | 
Morocco Most! 
Im an EC2 type of guy and why would someone do that to begin with
2019-06-26 01:46
There's that mod for the EC2 as well. thingiverse.com/thing:3710811 Also, G-Wolves is releasing an EC2 clone with a wireless version as well, lower weight and nice colors. Why? Because the Hero sensor has a better tracking than the 3310, and once you go wireless you can't go back to wired, even if you're using a proper paracord cable with thin and flexible wires. (Though it gets close) And no, it's not laggy at all, people have been using it on tournaments, and I'm pretty sensitive to input lag and I couldn't feel any input lag with this mouse or the G900 (that uses the same wireless technology). Maybe you're stuck in 2010 and you think these mice are using bluetooth, which adds an insane input lag.
2019-06-26 01:49
+1
2019-06-26 09:03
g703 > zowie
2019-06-26 01:08
+1 hltv confirmed
2019-06-26 09:04
I've owned more than 35 mice before, the G Pro Wireless is my true endgame. I don't feel like buying any other mouse, might as well just sell the rest of my collection. Perfect tracking, weight, shape, great clicks and a good scrollwheel. It charges super fast too. The only downside are the mousefeet imo, but oh well, just buy some hyperglides and gg.
2019-06-26 01:38
#28
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Portugal NabasKi 
Send me some mice you don't need anymore ;)
2019-06-26 02:16
#49
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Australia Pwnisher_ 
I'm on g pro wireless as well, just curious why do you dislike the mouse feet? And I'm on hyperx fury s, sometimes I just feel "off" or slow, do you think I should give htperglides a try (never used it with other mice)
2019-06-26 05:12
It feels somewhat scratchier and rougher than any other mouse feet I've used. I couldn't do "micro adjustments" at all while using my Razer Gigantus, had to switch to a faster mousepad. Hyperglides feels a bit faster than this and a lot smoother, it's just more consistent. I already bought some Tiger Arcs, but those are known to be relatively slower than hyperglides and the stock feet. Still smoother and more consistent, I guess. I'm waiting for Hyperglide to restock their feet on Amazon atm. And yes, Hyperglides are totally worth it imo.
2019-06-26 08:56
#77
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Australia Pwnisher_ 
didn't see this until now, hmm, I am kinda curious to try hyperglides, because even with my hyperx fury s which is the fastest mousepad I own(i know it's not the fastest out there) it does sometimes feel not smooth/fast enough. But I'm kinda scared to replace mouse feet in case I don't like it and I go to replace my old ones and it just doesn't feel right, you know? Like I know mouse feet can be applied back, but I've removed one and put it back on on my wired g pro and it felt a lot scratchier
2019-06-30 11:04
#24
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United States basiliskk 
Microsoft IntelliMouse 3.0 IE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>All
2019-06-26 01:49
#34
EliGE | 
Austria Lottooo 
+1
2019-06-26 04:23
#26
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
I just don't like wireless mice dunno why
2019-06-26 01:50
lol silvers talking about mice like it's gonna make them better just click heads
2019-06-26 02:28
it's not good if you have a big hand :'( I use palm grip and my fingers were bigger than the mouse, i was touching the mousepad lmao had to return it to exchange for the g703 very happy so far :)
2019-06-26 04:29
I got the g pro wireless and its the best mouse i've ever had. However I feel that you get a better grip with the zowie mice since they have perfected the comfort part of the mouse which imo is the most important. I wish the g pro wireless wasn't an ambidextrous mouse, if it was solely made for right handed people then it would be more comfortable, still it is lighter than my zowie, wireless, more customizable and has just as good if not better sensor.
2019-06-26 04:41
idk what zowie do you have but the 3360 (s1, s2, ec-b1, ec-b2) is a tier 1 sensor the best in the market
2019-06-26 04:44
#50
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Australia Pwnisher_ 
Pretty sure hero sensors are better. Not a huge difference, but still slightly better
2019-06-26 05:13
What bad did i say about the zowie sensor? I said that the g pro one is just as good if not better. When using both it's not like you notice any difference.
2019-06-26 06:28
g703>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2019-06-26 04:42
+1 #37
2019-06-26 04:45
only thing is all my logitech mice have gotten double click problems under a year loool, dunno why i still buy this trash shit but at least their customer service is good even tho it's trash it's still the best, just like america
2019-06-26 04:47
Its literally dogshit, a mouse made for soyboys My large, strong hands with my manly grip feel like shit in this mouse. Always missclicking because the buttons are made for skelly hands, I cant even rest my muscly fingers on the mouse without miss clicking on the lightweight buttons, its the ultimate soyboy mouse.
2019-06-26 04:53
#45
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Europe SteffeM 
EC2-A >>>>
2019-06-26 04:55
if you already have one its fine if not ec-b series is way better uses the 3360 optical sensor, has new feet and improved side buttons, and they’ve even added something to prevent the random scroll step activation
2019-06-26 04:59
#71
Germany ayyy 
small mouse feet are garbage as fuck. guess why so many pros are still on the ec2-a
2019-06-26 15:31
Had Zowie Za-12, changed to g wireless (was shit), changed to Zowie FK1+ and LOVE IT The best mouse Ive ever had The worst list for me is: Logitech oldchool(dont remeber), steelseries xai/kinzu and the G Pro wireless
2019-06-26 06:32
zowie is best fps mouse , only con it has is his scroll wheel.
2019-06-26 07:24
#62
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Germany ToiletShitter 
Bad shape and rather small
2019-06-26 09:06
#63
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Sweden Kasidro 
No nothing beats zowie
2019-06-26 09:13
G pro wireless is one of the best mice if not the best out there if you like the shape. Only good thing zowie has is that they sell different shapes + different sized mouse of every shape but the rest on their mice is pretty bad probably worst out there. They have terrible side buttons + the scrollwheel can get stuck between steps and somehow their mice with updated sensors still spin out
2019-06-26 13:39
Using Ec1-a since early 2018...damn the mouse is slippery (have the white edition) Having no grip affects my precision
2019-06-26 14:15
Most pros use ZOWIE products, mostly by sponsoring or by preference due to its uncomparable nice shapes, but when it comes to build quality I highly doubt them being as near as good as, for instance, Logitech G products. I used 2 different ZOWIE mice, the EC2-B and the ZA12 and both had a decent shape (I liked the ZA12 more as I was used to a Steelseries Sensei RAW shape before), but I sent both of them back as I wasn't comfortable with my grip on them as I usually get sweaty hands during gaming and their surfaces didn't allow me to get comfortable, but when I got my hands onto a G Pro Wireless it felt so good and I didn't miss the rubbery surface I was getting used to right before I was searching for a new mouse. Sadly, the mouse was not wide enough for my hand size so I didn't choose it and ordered a DM1 FPS White Edition, which is simply like the Sensei RAW, just with a better sensor (3389) and a way better cable (same cable as the FinalMouse AirNinja / Glorious Model O etc. have) and now I am fine. Here I am listing my personal pros of ZOWIE and Logitech G in comparison: ZOWIE: + better shapes in general + better mouse feet (not the EC2-Bs') + no software (better for LAN and travelling) Logitech G: + better build quality and better material + better button sounds / feel more stable + better for people who sweat a lot In the end it's just personal preference.
2019-06-26 14:29
#73
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Russia 1gor1 
trash mouse made for small woman hands
2019-06-26 17:22
G Pro with cord is also pefect.
2019-06-26 17:25
Zowie always
2019-07-03 22:28
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