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MysaN/JW/JesperW cheat vs ESC @ CS:GO
Sweden sixtenboy2 
youtube.com/watch?v=w-8haSl9iG0 Cheat or not cheat? discuss
2012-11-18 01:20
cheat (:
2012-11-18 01:24
sounds like the devil RAWR in slow mo - awp shot xD
2013-11-27 21:04
cheat and good video
2012-11-18 01:25
Yup, obvious. Well can never be sure, but too many random smoke peaks and look throughs. Also he didn't even play half as good vs us yesterday when he streamed, so I don't know. Don't really wanna call him out though until proven guilty.
2012-11-18 01:34
#5
Bulgaria ejjah 
fucking swedish cheaters
2012-11-18 01:34
cheat
2012-11-18 01:37
Did they played with an anti-cheat?
2012-11-18 01:39
no anti cheat. They had problems with BZSX cheating all the way to the finals in the second thor open
2012-11-18 01:40
Then its obvious
2012-11-18 01:44
i think so too
2012-11-18 01:47
tobad that it was nip that wanted to play without EAC or anticheat, and not wrtt ;)
2012-11-26 15:34
cheat cheat cheat, no talk!!
2012-11-18 01:42
wow did not think jespw was cheating when watch his stream but thats obvious cheat..
2012-11-18 01:44
JW never reveals his radar
2013-11-27 21:04
....i don't know why he cheats, he streams a lot in hltv.org, but today against NiP ir was 1 vs 3 clutch or something like that on mirage, he killed 1 from window so fucking sickd (on b) and then he turns and kill another, and then just hold his scope...and kill the last one, sry my english sucks, but i don't if anyone saw that.
2012-11-18 01:46
yea I mean the thing is some of the stuff he did could be legit, the problem is he does it like every other round. there is no way someone can hit all those shots consistently over two matches and be legit. also, I think in the video above the shooting perfectly on the target through full smoke is suspicious
2012-11-18 01:48
ye, is so suspicious, i think he is a good player but the highlight when he hold scope on the awp, and then kill the other guy that rushed it was freaking fast :s
2012-11-18 01:50
WRTT biggest cheaters since youtube.com/watch?v=-eZhBCqh8l8 Just poking fun at Argentina....Diego is a beast
2012-11-18 01:53
Just poking fun at Argentina ... Why ?
2012-11-18 03:44
Cause that was a blatant handball lmfao
2012-11-18 05:46
So you define us as cheaters just for that ...
2012-11-18 14:37
did I say that? you're retarded man, quit being such a nationalist pig
2012-11-18 16:33
:D you are too defensive. Not worth wasting my time in keep replying :)
2012-11-18 21:28
argencheeta
2013-11-27 21:05
i think its a waste of time calling those guys cheaters , lets them prove their level on LAN and see what they can do. If they sucks , the answer is obvious. If not , they are one of the best teams of the world
2012-11-18 01:52
I kinda wanna see them make the LAN just to watch them get destroyed lol
2012-11-18 01:54
yeah , if they sucks 99,9% teams and players of GO will be happy that they were right. but , if in one of these odds they success on lan , all the teams (including ESC , NiP) will be ashamed btw , i don't follow too much GO scene. If im right i know that WRTT beated esc and nip , sry if im wrong :3
2012-11-18 01:58
Yes WRTT beated esc and nip =D But maybe with cheat.
2012-11-18 02:21
They have proved at LAN in 1.6, they are good.
2012-11-18 14:44
And they have also been caught in 1.6 when they cheated. Just 'cause they have some skill in a LAN tournament doesn't mean that they don't cheat online.
2012-11-18 15:56
+1
2012-11-18 20:14
the thing is that they are all old 1.6 players, and have won a lot of lans :-D
2012-11-26 15:37
--' he will play versus famous team online and cheat. DUMB.
2012-11-18 01:53
1:32 <- aimbot...
2012-11-18 01:57
Looks like :S
2012-11-18 02:38
Cant really say, the demo in cs:go is strange.
2012-11-18 11:57
no
2012-11-19 11:27
the flick shot at 1:32 was a bit strange tbh.. It seems like an aimbot, coz if u watched the slowmotion the zoom firstly moves down far away from the T and then suddenly moves on the head.. the same happened with the kill after the first one. - reflex shot is not possible to redirect when u once reflex shooting or im not able to redirect my flickshots.. Thats just my opinion
2012-11-18 02:05
weird guy..
2012-11-18 02:04
haha ;DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD this is the first good "bust" video i've seen
2012-11-18 02:06
#25
Sweden wmb 
HIs not cheating you idiots. He has been playing CS:GO ever since the BETA release, he dropped off highschool to play CS. And since a year back, he has been pursueing his dream to become a professional gamer. Today jw showed the ability to perform while being 100% dedicated to a game. He proved that if you drop out of school and play it everyday 8 hours a day, you'll one day become pro. so GJ xDd
2012-11-18 02:06
I don't know what's more sad, him dropping out of high school to become a social parasite or you saying he isn't cheating
2012-11-18 02:07
#29
Sweden wmb 
The first part is the most sad. He didn't cheat, I'm serious and it's true. He is NOT cheating. If you take a look at his hours on STEAM, you'd be laughing too. And I know, people think he cheats. But he doesn't, he's just motivated.
2012-11-18 02:11
with motivation u can look through smokes? cool story, bro.
2012-11-18 02:12
+1
2012-11-18 02:15
+111111
2012-11-18 09:53
+1
2012-11-18 10:39
and walls, powerfull things motivation.
2012-11-18 12:56
#474
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
xDDDDDD
2012-11-18 22:32
Ok as long as you admit that its sad he dropped out of high school for a videogame then I don't care what you think. It's gonna be funny when in a few years this kid doesn't even have a HS education. Glad hardworking people pay money so people like him can eat everyday!
2012-11-18 02:13
As a fellow Yank I have to say I'm disgusted with your singular notion of "hard-working people" paying for someone who is dedicating their life to esports. Why are you even on this page? You realize that just because in America we work long hours and have no souls that people around the world have ways of making ends meet and staying happy and don't necessarily rely on powers of leeching to get by? Please keep your red-state opinions to yourself kid.
2012-11-18 02:17
So someone who plays video games all days contributes to society? brilliant notion. "Red state" What? I'd say I'm more anarcho-libertarian than anything xfd I just think you should reap what you sow. If you work hard you should be rewarded for it. It's a shame people like you think its acceptable for hardworking people to be starving but people who play videogames all day can live off of welfare and not contribute.
2012-11-18 02:22
Ignore that faggot, every swedish player hates him and hes known for cheating too.
2012-11-18 02:37
good to know, swedish people are cool in general this tool just gives them a bad name!
2012-11-18 02:41
#60
Sweden wmb 
still saying that jw is clean, and that whoever plays most wins.
2012-11-18 02:23
whoever plays most wins.. That is one stupid statement.
2012-11-18 14:47
stop sucking dicks and go away
2012-11-18 02:32
#159
Sweden wmb 
I've beaten jw on CS 1.6 at gathers. Still not having the 1.6 mentality on this game. It's a new game and jw beated them all, stfu now.
2012-11-18 02:51
u fuckin retarded get a rope man
2012-11-18 02:55
How many hours does he have? Tell me bro.
2012-11-18 16:36
Anyone reading anything this guy write ever, don't.
2012-11-18 02:10
#31
Sweden wmb 
I'll take it in both Swedish and english for you guys here: "MysaN aka jw hade hoppat av skolan sen 2011, och sedan 2011 har han spelat CS varje dag 8 timmar om dagen. Han slog NiP och ESC eftersom det är ett nytt spel som han spelat betydligt mer än dem". "MysaN aka jw dropped of school since 2011 and since 2011 has he been playing CS everyday 8 hours per day. He defeated both NiP and ESC because he apparently played alot more than them since it's a new game."
2012-11-18 02:12
are you wmb? omfg u do cheat aswell, u have played with top players while you cheated. Look at your fragbite thread where you admit you cheated. You code cheats aswell and you have probably coded this cheat to jw so thats why you're defending him as fuck. I know who you are, YOU are the BIGGEST cheater in sweden. you have cheated against everyone even on eac. you had silent aimkey/bot and wallhack that you coded for your self. Dont be a idiot and think that no one in HLTV will remember you.
2012-11-18 02:29
lmao owned
2012-11-18 02:47
#210
Sweden wmb 
ofcofcofc, sorry that you don't have anything to back things up with besides meaningless threads. No actual videos with my steamid etc on it, nor code nor anything to back things up. Cheers.
2012-11-18 03:04
Cheers? you know that im right about this, you can ask the whooole fragbite community and they will agree with me about what i'm saying here. You're coding cheats and have been cheating for a long time wmb, people know who you are. cdn.imghack.se/images/83389541384e1e51f3.. fragbite.se/?threadID=1123144 You updated the thread becous u cant stand for what you have done and tried to blame it on something like "I JUST WANTED TO GET 10k VIEWERS SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT IM A FUCKING CLOWN" Okey guys im now trying to translate this thread that he wronte on fragbite to english, but im not verry good but i'll give it a shot. I trolled every one of you, i didnt buy cheats for 2000kronor. Who do you think i am? zimbabwes president? LAN CHEAT? I only wanted to get a thread with 10k hits on it, and i got what i wanted. "I've lured everyone of you, cheated for 3 years? i've cheated since 2011. I'm famous now and better than all of you in real life! I want to say thanks to all members of NEVERLAN: suazo tech xelos dal ito diskret casio shool hazte sure_thang knopek ferry nanii medik samzter flowztah blaze j anne miko platte haummer kalib o vise pent pont majk eriko iya z mize1 divadude lolako Last modified 2012-10-14 16:15" Just give up you are a cheater and will always be. Cheers. fuskbugg.se/dl/wEBg29/wmb.jpg if he's changing it.
2012-11-18 03:29
#238
Sweden wmb 
Now it's about time to strike you down with a force stronger than triforce. One: sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p.. (I've beard first off, I'm older than 20) Two: There's no actual proof that I've cheated, when it comes to real videomaterials of me cheating. Whatever you claim, there's no video where they prove that I'm playing nor backing up that I'm cheating. (No STEAM-ID nor Community print or w/e inside the cheatfilms nor demos related to the cheatmovies). Three: You clearly don't know me so I'll break it down for you. It's not a proof unless I'm physically on a server where I cheat with a certain STEAMID nor a demo with backing up of me cheating. Four: Your an idiot to believe that a person who've played in the top5 level in Sweden for years to cheat, then your an idiot too. If you think I cheat, dl my latest POV from FNATIC play 2011 where I beated TEAMX (redman and co) with a shitty gathermix from t2p.cs2 -- I've more demos if you want as I said, I can give them all to you in private. esl.eu/nordic/cs/5on5/aseries_lc/match/2.. (me dalito qaz elvito EMR) If you want my original CFG, dl the ESL-wire linesman file noob :)
2012-11-18 03:26
are you afraid to show that the picture i had was you? it clearly seems like it becous you made your picture darker and by butting in black lines over the picture. You're clearly older now than the picture i showed and its clearly you. no cheat films or proof that you've cheated? banned from games4u. games4u.se/profil/10881 wallhack. up in the left corner LirianOo thats you. NO PROOF? youtube.com/watch?v=LNJ-hLm9tmY fuskbugg.se/dl/tSESNK/Namnls.jpg there is alot of proof that you've cheated and im sure that you have coded the cheat for these WRTT guys, noob :)
2012-11-18 03:40
#259
Sweden wmb 
Hold on here. A thread where someone posts an IRC-log claiming that it was me busted there has no evidence whatsoever. No STEAM-id linked or w/e. And it proves nothing either? And it's not me on any pictures as I haven't been taking any photos of me. I don't even own a camera nor a cellphone so how do you expect me to post pictures? And the ban on Games4u is due to the thread on Fragbite, and there's nothing on the screenshots that shows that I'm cheating. (You can talk to Games4u admins if you wish to). And that youtube-video has no STEAM-ID nor physical evidence of me playing (nor does it link me to any of your allegations). games4u.se/information/fuskare (The cheater-list, you can see that my nickname isn't there) And I don't even know any of the WRTT guys besides xelos and jw. And I've known them for years and years.
2012-11-18 03:45
it feels like we can go on with this for ever. but 1 last thing, things that stick together in this argument is. 1. the pictures that we both posted. look alike even if you tried to hide you self with black lines. cdn.imghack.se/images/83389541384e1e51f3.. sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p.. 2. The fragbite threads. always a question in the end about you wmb fragbite.se/?threadID=1123144 fragbite.se/?threadID=1047476 esl.eu/nordic/cs/5on5/aseries_lc/match/2.. (wmb aka lirianOo) games4u.se/profil/10881 (lirianOo banned from g4u) fragbite.se/?threadID=1047476 youtube.com/watch?v=LNJ-hLm9tmY I dont think he's lying. (if u want to know what the thread says tell me) why you aren't on the cheater-list? well look at the date. First guy on the list is from 2011-11-15 21:12 and you got banned 2 mounths earlier due to the fragbite thread. But sure you was cheating, admins dont ban people that clearly dont cheat. i dont know, but i have a feeling that you coded the cheat for JW and xelos and i know 4sure that they are cheating.
2012-11-18 04:10
#278
Sweden wmb 
The pictures aren't like, and I didn't hide behind black lines. It's ASCII Code you retard. The picture is converted to raw text-code. Still not listed as cheater on Games4u and will not be as I'm banned due to personal infringement. I violated the games4u gaming code, by that having manner and all that. (Which accordingly to them was broken due to the thread I made?). And I'm not coding cheats for anyone, why would you believe that I'd spend my time coding cheats on a game that is easier than flash games? :D
2012-11-18 04:17
i dont feel like argue with you anymore, we are not getting any where. i dont "believe" that you are coding cheats, there is rumors about it. I've never said that you ARE coding. I have a feeling that you are coding cheats to them.
2012-11-18 04:22
#285
Sweden wmb 
please dont have that feeling, im not cheating in csgo and i dont code cheats. dont hate me because u have no reasons too, i hope u will see me on lan oneday because i have indeed attended events between 2003-2005.
2012-11-18 04:26
#315
fer | 
Sweden Hale 
I gotta agree with Fronten on this one, i've seen your name pop up everywere when it comes down to cheats, wmb. For all the foreign people out there who aren't hanging out to much in the Swedish cs-scene, wmb is somewhat of a "LOCAL" infamous cheater, everybody over here knows who he is because of the cheating. Whenever you'd play a pracc/gather and go up against this guy you'd just /quit after the first round. He indeed is a troll, and if the picture Fronten provided of him is really WMB, then he's as UGLY as a troll too. (Btw, the dudes on the pictures look practicly identical, just like they somewhat aged a little). The fact that he's STILL trying to defend himself (and poorly at that) after all theese years is just hilarious. Wouldn't surprise me if WMB was the one to fix them those cheats btw.
2012-11-18 10:28
"i've seen your name pop up everywere when it comes down to cheats, wmb1." +1
2012-11-18 10:45
+1
2012-11-18 16:31
#427
Sweden wmb 
we will see how i perform on lan soon :)
2012-11-18 17:32
100% obvious
2013-11-27 21:06
he is so ugly HAHA
2012-11-18 23:28
+1
2012-11-18 10:42
that one is hMp1 or sth like that who cheated vs FMTOXIC into fragbite qualifiers with hiGhrollers.
2012-11-18 16:37
reading this made me want to be sick everywhere. to both of you: its just a game! :)
2012-11-18 02:13
#37
Sweden wmb 
Still true, he dropped of school a year ago for CS. If you think I'm kidding, just ask him personally on IRC. He doesn't cheat. And I'm his witness that he doesn't cheat.
2012-11-18 02:15
dont care either way, everything you say just makes me think you're sticking your tongue up his arse :)
2012-11-18 02:21
+1
2012-11-18 02:21
#212
Sweden wmb 
Sticking my tongue in his arse. Oh now this is entertaining, what would you do if you saw someone got brutally attacked by someone? Stop them from doing any harm? Right? So apparently for defending jw, I must be sticking my tongue in his arse when I cannot tolerate this shit that people is putting up on this forum? Ok then, let me stick it up for you.
2012-11-18 03:05
#38
xseveN | 
Finland phoosi 
Dropped highschool for cheating in CS?
2012-11-18 02:15
+1
2012-11-18 02:15
+1
2012-11-18 02:16
#44
Sweden wmb 
He still didn't cheat in CS, what's the problem with you on HLTV. I'm telling you that this boy dropped of school a year ago. He has over 1000 hours on CS:GO, wake up, it's 2012. He _DROPPED_ off school for playing, apparently THIS has given him results.
2012-11-18 02:16
link me to his steam profile please.
2012-11-18 02:26
+1 i wanna see this
2012-11-18 02:27
#76
Sweden wmb 
i46.tinypic.com/25tg6s8.png do i need to say more? this guy has been playing _EVERYDAY_ for the past 2 YEARS.
2012-11-18 02:29
csgo has been out for 2 years? It's a totally different game than CS:S and 1.6 bro
2012-11-18 02:32
#94
Sweden wmb 
CS:GO has been out since last Dreamhack, and since Last dreamhack, jw have had the beta. hench why i say 2 years cause he has been playing since beta.
2012-11-18 02:35
man get the fuck out that's not even half of your claimed 1000. gyazo.com/8dd66cf7558ba5bea73c8a1cb6198c.. even my friends beat him.
2012-11-18 02:36
#105
Sweden wmb 
The BETA hours aren't counted at all. It's only counted from the retail, which was since August. Get your shit together.
2012-11-18 02:38
You're even more retarded than i thought, game is completely different to beta.. when it was bots and 10 US servers only. And even if that was true, my friends beta hours weren't counted either. Bottom line is this: The game has been out for 89 days. With means he has only been playing for 5.5hrs (assuming he played everyday). Which is once again nowhere near your claim of 8hrs per day. so please now, be quiet.
2012-11-18 02:42
#216
Sweden wmb 
The game hasnt changed THAT MUCH different from the beta played in may? Are you really this retarded? The recoil is pretty much the same, you can roll back and download the GCF files for CS:GO beta if you wish? And also, it's true. I went to see a friends steamacc which had the beta and the beta hours aren't counted.
2012-11-18 03:07
The game is completely different from early betas to now. Anyone that plays competitively that had the beta and still plays can vouch for that. youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 This pretty much sums up how I feel right now.
2012-11-18 09:58
#353
xseveN | 
Finland phoosi 
My beta hours was counted.
2012-11-18 13:44
#475
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
also my
2012-11-18 22:47
the beta hours were counted for sure, at least for me and all my steam friends
2012-11-18 14:37
the most stupid user I've ever seen in my life
2012-11-18 02:44
+1
2012-11-18 02:44
BETA HOURS ARE COUNTED OFC, LIER !
2012-11-18 02:46
#217
Sweden wmb 
They aren't counted. zzz
2012-11-18 03:07
they ARE counted you fucking retarded moron!
2012-11-18 10:05
yes they are.
2012-11-18 11:15
#223
Sweden wmb 
They aren't counted as BETA was removed when the retail came out. The steam counts from the time your account got retail version. --
2012-11-18 03:12
they r how the fuck can u talkin shit as it? omgggg i cant hear one more word from ur mouth
2012-11-18 03:16
#231
Sweden wmb 
Still not counted, you can ask on STEAMpowered yourself fool
2012-11-18 03:19
I get the BETA myself and I can ensure you that the BETA hours are counted. Wtf is wrong with you?
2012-11-18 03:20
#282
Sweden wmb 
photoshop / another acc. plz link from the same acc.
2012-11-18 04:19
img525.imageshack.us/img525/1934/slika1y.. img820.imageshack.us/img820/559/slika2e... Just stfu, if you are not a troll you are very stupid.
2012-11-18 04:31
#293
Sweden wmb 
zzz ur the troll here.
2012-11-18 04:46
Arguments off, you start trolling like a tard so def he is a cheater.
2012-11-18 16:39
the beta hours are counted. all my hours from beta are still there.
2012-11-18 05:07
Mine started counting back in the beginning of June where i started playing the game. steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611980087..
2012-11-18 12:05
false, my beta hours never has been deleted from the CS:GO "game" hours.
2012-11-18 17:04
hahaha +1
2012-11-18 02:38
hahah +1
2012-11-18 02:42
Haha stupid liar, he got the beta like this summer?
2012-11-18 14:30
he got the beta around this summer. y u lie in evry post?
2012-11-18 14:43
lol yeah... over 1000 hours?! WHERE?! :D 462? One of the TargetDown-Guys had 650+ hours and had no chance at lan... more hours = win? no. also the nip-guys have more hours. and member since 2010, haha
2012-11-18 02:35
+1
2012-11-18 02:34
so first u say he has over 1k hours?? and he has 460....hmm
2012-11-18 02:47
#232
Sweden wmb 
Include beta-hours where he had beta access since November 2011. Now I must laugh even more at you
2012-11-18 03:19
Not to be this guy but... i just had to ask people that has been around jws life on mirc the latest year and what i heard from 90% of them was that he started injune with CSGO so whats up with the fucking lies dude? :) He cheated end of story
2012-11-18 03:30
#247
Sweden wmb 
A liar who's talking to him directly and who's currently discussing about you. Sees like a good point here.
2012-11-18 03:33
#476
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
i have access since may 31st and steam hrs. are counted since then also achievements
2012-11-18 22:56
hmmm so for a guy who went out of HS just to play cs...... he dosnt play that much imo..... i have ~50 hours even tho i go to university.... and i could still play more then i have... i could understand if he had 100+ hours...
2012-11-18 13:35
steamcommunity.com/profiles/765611980315.. Dieser Nutzer spielte auch als: UndergroundStreetfighterWarrior CSGO Framework Loaded samzterJuJu MysaNiZnoGouD samzterJu Bullberg ~Jott & hMp~ Bullaren MysaNGouD MysaN ^^
2012-11-18 02:31
#96
Sweden wmb 
It's common in Sweden to nick something that is suspiscious. If you take a look at playnation ladder, you'll see gamers nicking cheatnicks like "aimforX" etc.
2012-11-18 02:36
I feel like cadred.org would suit you more :/
2012-11-18 05:53
#308
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Finland sonicz 
+1
2012-11-18 08:20
#465
Kray | 
World ashhh 
dont you look like a retard now
2012-11-18 20:45
cmon it's obvious.. if admins can't see it then i dont know wtf they smoked.
2012-11-18 02:07
#30
Norway prb- 
He clearly cheats but there are some more swedish like him, snokz, for example (see u at DHW...lets laugh). The point is that teams keep playing these shit qualifiers without anticheat that everycheater will be into so they will have to invite some teams like NiP or VG because they won't normally qualify unless they lose on purpose like BSZX did with HastaLaVista into the 1st quali so the final LAN cup will be shit and nobody will watch. srsly...sozu fb you are the worst admin at the european scene.Open your eyes, retard.
2012-11-18 02:14
They are all friends...
2012-11-18 02:14
#41
Sweden wmb 
Jw is clean. He's not cheating. I repeat. JW doesn't cheat.
2012-11-18 02:16
months ago when he started to stream u said that he cheated, now what? what did he gaved to u ? his cheats?
2012-11-18 02:17
#51
Sweden wmb 
It's schneider you idiot.
2012-11-18 02:19
no, you're the guy named "hiddentalent" on irc
2012-11-18 02:21
#63
Sweden wmb 
I'm wmb you tool, look me up. I use fakenicks on IRC for avoiding inviters to spam the shit out of me If you havent heard of me, visit me on SK-gaming.com/member/wmb- or dl my HLTV-pov vs a team in norway at fnatic play 2011. etc etc blablabla 1.6 rulez, jw is clean bye
2012-11-18 02:24
you were pming me on irc not long ago lol
2012-11-18 02:26
#97
Sweden wmb 
Yes I've written to you, and I know that jw is clean. zzz
2012-11-18 02:36
-1
2012-11-18 02:42
? No it was jesperw, i remember, u morron
2012-11-18 02:23
#64
Sweden wmb 
Ask jw himself, I've never accused jw of cheating since I'm ONE OF THE ONLY ONES who knows that he QUITTED school for gaming. I've known that for more than a year, he has no social life, nada, he sits at his home playing games, going to lan with his internet-friends. realise a few things idiots, if u play everyday for almost 2 years and has no commitments in life, what can u expect?
2012-11-18 02:25
so he's a cheater, an introvert, and a social parasite?
2012-11-18 02:26
#68
Sweden wmb 
He's not cheating, none of those things is he. He's 16 or 17 years old borned 1995. He's a kid, and he lives at his parents house. He's a normal kid who loves games?
2012-11-18 02:26
normal people don't drop out of HS, play videogames 8-10 hours a day, and have no social life. Maybe in Sweden but not in the rest of the world
2012-11-18 02:28
#79
Sweden wmb 
But he did, and he stands for it really. It's up to him, if he's happy with his life then so be it. Don't judge people before u know them.
2012-11-18 02:30
I'm not judging him I just know you can't contribute to society by dropping out of HS to play videogames all day and expect to get a free pass in life.
2012-11-18 02:31
#90
Sweden wmb 
He's 17 years old. what do you expect? Still his choice in life? Are you guys really this stupid? I've been saying the same thing over and over, a 17 year old dropped off school a year and a half ago. A guy who've been playing CS EVERYDAY for a year and a half. If I'd drop off university and my job to play CS:GO, I'd aswell beat every shit team on the planet. Because it's a new game and ppl havent played it for 12 years.
2012-11-18 02:34
How do you feel being normal?
2012-11-18 02:37
richer than that kid who dropped out of hs
2012-11-18 02:39
u r experienced and played against them too, right? what was your feeling ingame? cheat? clean?
2012-11-18 02:52
When we played WRTT jesperwOw wasn't playing I think.
2012-11-18 04:42
you lucky
2012-11-18 15:05
i agree on him cheating, but stop with this "social parasite" expression. it doesnt mean anything.
2012-11-18 11:18
? im not even answering you.. u know the answer. keep going.
2012-11-18 02:28
#78
Sweden d9lk 
Admins deleted your posts in his old thread but here's proof you did accuse him for cheating: hltv.org/forum/163476-jw-stream "Hey guys, im making a new thread because of wmb trolling and destroying my last one." and yes, he's cheating
2012-11-18 02:29
#80
Sweden wmb 
I was trolling? Just to make viewers decrease, I've known jw for the past four years.
2012-11-18 02:31
Stop defending your little analbuddy. If anything - you're not helping his cause. At all. It is up to the admins to make a conclusion on whether he is cheating or not.
2012-11-18 11:10
ah schneider the guy from WW also cheats? Didn't know oh...
2012-11-18 16:40
Still pasha will find him... and maybe u.
2012-11-18 09:53
hahaha :D
2012-11-18 14:23
#477
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
pasha will crush these kids with his massive biceps ou yeah
2012-11-18 23:01
i lol'd :DD
2012-11-18 02:17
#52
Sweden d9lk 
BSZX didn't cheat, some of them also proved themselves being good @ LAN. (waver etc, clutched 1v5 against buggit) jw/xelos probably cheating tho
2012-11-18 02:20
snooks is cheating.
2012-11-18 02:21
Check the steam id history on them. Two of them were banned for cheating in some swedish league
2012-11-18 02:21
BSZX had snokz and BENDJI cheating.
2012-11-18 16:40
Exactly, this tournament is going to fail hard.. its good a very good prizepool to so sad.Just take a look at the teams who have made it through so far...
2012-11-18 02:20
Ye...i know thats why im saying that they will have to make invites or just disqualify these guys to let VG/NiP to go.
2012-11-18 19:29
2:12 and 19:00 youtube.com/watch?v=DM_T6gfxY_0 Just no... can't be clean.
2012-11-18 02:13
#241
Kray | 
World ashhh 
LMAO
2012-11-18 03:28
#478
 | 
Slovakia kubiaxk 
+1
2012-11-18 23:04
is wmb1 jw???
2012-11-18 02:16
yes
2012-11-18 02:17
#50
Sweden wmb 
No, I'm wmb1, but jw is still clean.
2012-11-18 02:19
seems like yes. but i am skeptical, is it more worse to claim "oh, noooooo dude i'm not cheatin" or deliciously licking and sucking at a cheater dick?
2012-11-18 02:41
+1
2012-11-18 11:07
.
2012-11-18 02:27
#84
Sweden wmb 
If you would play CS:S for everyday of your life for 2 years and not have any commitments. Wouldnt you beat ESC with 16-0? Are you guys really this stupid?
2012-11-18 02:32
#89
Sweden d9lk 
can you show us his playtime instead of spamming this all over again?
2012-11-18 02:34
#91
Sweden wmb 
i46.tinypic.com/25tg6s8.png do i have to print it over and over?
2012-11-18 02:34
bro I work about 55-60hr weeks and even I have 300hrs played on CSGO lol....462....not that high
2012-11-18 02:36
#102
Sweden wmb 
The hours in total at BETA isn't counted in the retail. So add 200 hours more than you'll see that.
2012-11-18 02:37
They did count you idiot, i was in the beta.
2012-11-18 02:38
+1 was some months in beta too and got my hours... pure bullshit @wmb1
2012-11-18 02:44
He is such a fucking idiot ffs.
2012-11-18 02:46
yeap sad he didn't realise it yet lol
2012-11-18 02:55
sorry didn't see, NiP has almost the same if not more playtime and they are a TEAM, and also BOOTCAMPING atm (same for ESC). No way they can lose against a mix. those 2 matches was his 2 best games ever, and it was against 2 top teams also tell me, does alot of playtime make you see better through smoke?
2012-11-18 02:39
#111
Sweden wmb 
That doesn't have any sense in a new game. The guys at NiP played 1.6 for many years. CS:GO has existed for a year almost. Are you funny or what?
2012-11-18 02:39
you are so stupid, aren't you?
2012-11-18 02:41
#127
Sweden wmb 
Why am I stupid? Your even nicking 'fanboyofmoddii" which proves that your a hardcore 1.6 fan It's a new game, NiP have played 1.6 / source for years and years. CS:GO hasnt existed for more than a year and a half. Jw has played ever since it got open for public (on Dreamhack Winter where he was). I'm going to tell you this: you got two options. One, realizing its a new game, Two continue acting as if this game were 1.6 I'm not going to talk any further about jw.
2012-11-18 02:43
wtf that what I said has to do with my nickname lol
2012-11-18 02:46
#147
Sweden wmb 
Just be quiet will you? I already bashed your arguements about me being stupid because I think jw is better than the ones at ESC due to a new game.
2012-11-18 02:47
with cheats ROFL, everybody crushing you with arguments, I don't need to do that, I don't care about you and your stupid cheater friend, I only see your stupid comments in this thread, I guess there's no user which is thinkin another way, you should be quiet or banhammer will punch you
2012-11-18 02:49
#164
Sweden wmb 
Just get a grip, it's a new game as I said. Jw has been playing it for a year and a half since dreamhack winter. Can you guys really stop annoying me with all the jw bullshit. Okey he beated ESC and NiP online, atleast let him prove himself on LAN.
2012-11-18 02:52
I don't think he will get a chance to play at LAN and even if everybody is gonna "look at his hands" "Jw has been playing it for a year and a half since dreamhack winter." so if you're playing for a long time even a new game, you automatically got a wallhack and visibility through the smoke? I hope you don't have idea what are you talking about and you're serious or just trolling
2012-11-18 03:06
#219
Sweden wmb 
Just look at next LAN and see when jw plays. I'm tired of kids thinking that someone cheats when it's a new game going on here.
2012-11-18 03:08
he is too stupid to understand that he actually is stupid.
2012-11-18 11:09
Are you fucking stupid ? ESC have WAY more exp than this shitty team WRTT. I fucking bet you are one of those guys in the team, its obvious that jw is cheating in this game. Playing 8 hours a day does not give you wallhack. Its just awkward how much you are protecting this prick. Becouse everyone know that you are him.
2012-11-18 02:37
+1
2012-11-18 02:40
#117
Sweden wmb 
So now i'm jw when I even have a HLTV playerstats profile. More stupid can you get really, he's clean. No matter what you tools say or claim. He had BETA-access from Dreamhack winter since he was there first off. Second off he has been gaming for a year and a half (dropped school spring 2011). Third off, it's a new game, everything can happen. The guys at NiP/etc havent played CS:GO for 10 years or 12 years on a professional level. Not even a year so please stop fkn compare this game to 1.6 or source
2012-11-18 02:40
Are you this stupid ? Even though you play fucking 20 hours a day for a year it does not make you see through walls and know where everyone is. How are you even trying to fucking talk us out of this ? Its quite obvious that you are sucking his dick right now.
2012-11-18 02:45
You are stupid to think playing a lot does not make you significantly better then the rest.
2012-11-18 02:52
I never said it doesnt ? I just said it does not make your walls dissapear. Did you even watch the game ?
2012-11-18 02:57
I did. Only thing I saw is that ESC had no clue whatsoever about how to play mill in CSGO...
2012-11-18 03:00
Just like LLL does on every map against a decent team right ?
2012-11-18 03:02
oh snap.
2012-11-18 03:49
+1 LLL garbage team
2012-11-18 05:35
How do you feel being smashed by decent teams? ohh wait, you're so famous so you must be a good player oO
2012-11-18 03:10
troll or stupid?
2012-11-18 03:48
First time ESC played the map...??
2012-11-18 04:43
first time they played a direct mill rip off in csgo? maybe, but it is EXACTLY the same map as 1.6, maybe minus a few small things
2012-11-18 05:36
You are an idiot if you think ESC is magically good on any map even if they never played it. It is not the exact map AT ALL, timings are totally different. Looks retarded and plays different aswell. 5 guys that gather on this map a lot vs 5 guys that never played it. Suprised it was 16-0? Yea. Suprised ESC got beat on MILL. No.
2012-11-18 15:38
#300
2012-11-18 12:52
haha you play for a shit team, congrats. loved seeing you get rolled at ESWC
2012-11-18 05:35
They didn't actually get rolled
2012-11-18 09:36
Yes they did....
2012-11-18 15:41
ofc it does but to a point
2012-11-18 02:58
if u commit ur life to a game ur automatically pro?
2012-11-18 02:40
#123
Sweden wmb 
Try this: 1) Delete your social life / stop going out with ur friends 2) Quit school / tell your parents that you quit everything 3) Lock yourself in your room while your parents serve you food and cleans your room for you 4) Go back to being 17 and have the best reflexes of your life 5) Dedicate yourself with emotions and cry when you lose. And voila, your auto a new Jw
2012-11-18 02:42
Let me give you my example 1) i stopped going out with my friends just to play 1.6 2) i didn't quit high school, my grades are all around 19 out of 20 and i played 1.6 at least 4 hours a day 3) i only went out of my room just to eat and go to school 4) i'm 16 5) i got really, REALLY pissed off with my teammates whenever i lost a game RESULT: i became a preety decent player and i still got raped by portuguese "top" players, 16-0. I know a couple of them and: 1) they go out every weekend 2) they are in the university 3) they would still rape my team with a mix that didn't play during a month so, that's is not an excuse for him to play like that against top teams. For what i read, he streams everyday. So, why didn't he stream the matches vs ESC and NiP?
2012-11-18 05:00
+1
2012-11-18 05:36
+1
2012-11-18 11:11
#482
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
esp FTW :D
2012-11-18 23:11
#83
Finland nsis 
Very suspicious moves, hard to say.
2012-11-18 02:31
optx cheated online in source before everyone know that
2012-11-18 02:33
CHEAT i validate
2012-11-18 02:35
Some shots are indeed suspicious (even a given ESC player placement). And if those aren't due to cheating those smoke shots are really hard to be defended as clean. Not the best PR for these THOR qualifiers indeed.
2012-11-18 02:41
"Dude you don't get it, he dropped out of HS and has played this game for 2 years and therefore he can beat two of the best pro teams of all time who have played CS for 11 years"
2012-11-18 02:43
#135
Sweden wmb 
Ok Tarsus, my patience with you is becoming really slow. How about considering this for a fact: 1) Delete your social life / stop going out with ur friends 2) Quit school / tell your parents that you quit everything 3) Lock yourself in your room while your parents serve you food and cleans your room for you 4) Go back to being 17 and have the best reflexes of your life 5) Dedicate yourself with emotions and cry when you lose. And then add that it's a new game and you had access to it since the BETA launch. And then add the fact that the ones who you play vs has less hours played and have explored the game less than you. Then add the fact that you have a certain dedication for it. And voila, things will work out for you mr_envy.
2012-11-18 02:45
whatever you say jw
2012-11-18 02:45
Hahaha oh man I can't tell if wmb1 is on some platinum trolling level or if he's serious.
2012-11-18 02:57
hes serious
2012-11-18 05:47
wmb1 making a fool of himself doesn't make me 'not get it' :P
2012-11-18 02:46
hence the quotes...
2012-11-18 02:47
#153
Sweden wmb 
am I making a fool out of myself, or am I just stating the truth. Because if the truth is hilarious then so be it, because whatever I write here is actually a true story. All of those things I've written above is what jw has been doing. I suggest you actually take a good look why I defend him. Because I know this kid and it's a new game. We can't have the 1.6 or source mentality. Everyone has the equal chance now to become pro because no one has played CS:GO for 12 years including participating hundreds of LANs like some in NiP did at 1.6.
2012-11-18 02:48
"whatever I write here is actually a true story." no, actually only you think like that
2012-11-18 02:53
#175
Sweden wmb 
So it's not a true story? The fact that he already has over 400 hours on CS:GO when it got released in August. He has week average on 35 hours ever since the release. He has been playing it full-time ever since the game got released, in his total average. Add the BETA hours also and you'll see it's a lot more.
2012-11-18 02:55
400 hours, with the beta. Isnt that much LOL. I played the beta and i know for a fact that the hours count from the beta. All NiP players have over 350 hours and they have a social life. And the fact that you know all these "facts" you stated above, you must be jw. Unless you are his father.
2012-11-18 03:16
#230
Sweden wmb 
The Beta isn't counted you tool. The game reseted stats due to the game becoming retail. You can login to an account that had the CS:GO beta, you'll see that the game disappeared? It's not included. Jw has more than the ones at NiP, and he has no social life. And I know all these facts because I know him on a non-gaming related level. Do I really need to make myself clear once again?
2012-11-18 03:17
Ofcourse it dissapeared if they didnt buy the game? I bought the game and the beta hours were still there. Explain that please? You cant. They did count, and 400 hours is dogshit for a guy that dropped school and is in his room and does not shower playing games. I have been playing less than 1 hour a day and i have more than 100 hours overall in csgo.
2012-11-18 03:23
#240
Sweden wmb 
... This proves that you don't know shit what your talking about. Ask on STEAMpowered and see if I'm right or wrong.
2012-11-18 03:28
Also, Now studying Computer Science (Software Engineering) at a regional university in Sweden So you could probably code a cheat if you wanted to, i have been talking to a swede that says you have been cheating for a long time and admited it on fragbite? I guess you are defending him due he is using YOUR cheat that YOU coded. CU.
2012-11-18 03:32
#249
Sweden wmb 
If you wanna believe that I sit at home coding cheats to a 12-year old game where I've been playing the game since 1999. Then you must be very hilarious you If you go back to SK-gaming.com/member/ceh9 account, all the way back, you'll see that i'm one of the first who knew his nickname (esenin). (Why? Because I pracced vs them and I invited them to channels when they were forming the team(that became NaVi); I knew members of HR and I knew members of A-gaming). I've been praccing 1.6 since late 2001. Been playing since the beta.
2012-11-18 03:37
2012-11-18 03:38
#253
Sweden wmb 
I was clearly meaning 1.6 but anyhow, if you think that I sit at home coding cheats then think so. I don't and I've no reasons to cheat on official games and act good about it. There's a reason why f.ex. dalito played with me. Case closed.
2012-11-18 03:39
#483
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
cool story brah :D
2012-11-18 23:20
Oh yeah it is.. steamcommunity.com/id/menix/ Well - 800+ hours, i should be good then!
2012-11-18 06:41
fuckin nolife :O
2012-11-18 13:27
You really need to realize that people don't care what you think about this, you just embarrass yourself over and over again. You don't know for sure if he is cheating or not and the sooner you understand that, the better.
2012-11-18 02:55
#180
Sweden wmb 
Do you really want me to believe that a kid who dropped out of school cheats on a game for what purpose? For what purpose does he nowadays go to every Swedish LAN for? To cheat online and then lose at LAN? No to become the best player in Sweden? Yes. That's his goal and since you all think he cheats, he's starting to succeed in his ambitions to become the best player. Let me embarrase myself, I'm not going to be one of those who're saying things without anything to backup with. I know him personally, that means: I know details you guys don't. So I'm going to defend him and that's it.
2012-11-18 02:57
Yes, you are in fact saying things without backing them up. You have no clue if he is cheating or not, you can defend him all you want, but saying "he doesn't cheat, I know" is a waste of time. The only thing you are doing here is making everyone laugh at him.
2012-11-18 03:01
#255
Sweden wmb 
Then let them laugh, I've nothing to lose nor does he anything to lose on me defending him? Just to make things clear, I don't care nor bother to care about what people thinks or believes about me? I'm already successful irl, university student + working.
2012-11-18 03:41
Thanks for the info, but why are you telling me? All I can tell from this is that you don't understand basic logic, but if you want to waste your time writing these pointless comments, go ahead.
2012-11-18 03:56
#272
Sweden wmb 
Just stating that I don't care if you think that I waste my time on this or not. I just want these allegations to be gone because they are unfair and unjust to a person who've dedicated his time to a game which he believes in to be his future. Just as I decided to intervene with bullies during my time as a junior. I'm a fair person and I do believe in fairness.
2012-11-18 03:58
that's exactly what I wanted to say
2012-11-18 02:57
The fact is that you are willing to state 'the truth' with poor arguments such as him dropping out of school and having played X hours of CS:GO. Ever heard of quality over quantity? And the teams he has played against have by far more quality despite his hours of CS:GO. It is a new game, so what? Haven't the teams he faced already shown they got the grasp of CS:GO? As far as I see it, they have. Still you decide to defend him, an honourable gesture as a friend but not very wise with the arguments you base your defense on as said. There are no equal chances as recent events have already shown a built up food chain and happily overcoming it is pretty suspicious.
2012-11-18 02:58
#204
Sweden wmb 
Hold on, Swedish gaming is above all scenes. He's playing gathers in #CSGO.swe - a swedish gatherchannel. And swedish scene is the strongest, he has been playing vs all sorts of constellations since the beta release in that channel. He has been playing the game everyday, and he has a week average of 35 hours since the game got officially launched retail game. 35,61 hours per week is his week average since the game got released. That's almost a full-time job. And it'll be alot more. I calculated the numbers of week from 20th of August til 18 of november and divided on his steamhours. That is 33 hours per week average. Almost WAT work. So yes it's full-time.
2012-11-18 03:02
u and ur hours
2012-11-18 03:06
As said, those steam hours are pretty weak as an argument. Regarding playing gathers, I can play a lot of street basketball games but that will not magically make me a good player in official games where the team as a whole counts. And that applies even more if for the latter you are actually offline instead of online as in CS:GO gathers.
2012-11-18 03:27
#242
Sweden wmb 
So your saying that Michael Jordan didn't need a basketball to become the best basketball players in the NBA? Really bad connection between street basketball and playing a game where everyone is new at? :D Remove this 1.6 / source mentality you got undergoing please. Just stop it, jw won a lan in norway too with Gosu etc. Forgetting that too? zzz
2012-11-18 03:31
I hope to see this team in DH BYOC, and if they play like that they will beat ESC and NiP (and that probably magically won't happen on @LAN)(why??) :o
2012-11-18 03:39
Like you said, that he attends EVERY SWEDISH EVENT. Is he going to the DH BYOC? Im sure he would 16-0 every team there ONLY becouse of the hours he is putting in the game who are dogshit. 400 is nothing.
2012-11-18 03:44
#263
Sweden wmb 
I don't know, he has attended the major ones this year. IO Qualifier, Dreamhack etc. SO I guess he'll be there, that's something you've to ask him about.
2012-11-18 03:47
he won't attend DH BYOC. trust me :D
2012-11-18 03:54
You fucking idiot, he is busted, Organner. You are so fucking stupid.
2012-11-18 19:55
Where do I state that? I refer to quality basketball as he played the NCAA and not some random playground basketball. You might say, 'well, playground players are pretty good too' but paraphrasing 'Any Given Sunday', For every sucker who makes it,for every Barry Sanders,for every Jerry Rice,there's a hundred niggers you never heard of.
2012-11-22 01:11
you look like the lawyer of any swedish player, just give up
2012-11-18 03:04
the thing is that NiP are praccing since the very first big tournament,playing against the best teams in the game and improving fast,ofcourse it gives you much more advantage from playing 2 major tournaments then playing 8 hours a day against randoms
2012-11-18 15:06
LOL nice quote from wmb
2012-11-18 11:12
These guys are good normally, so if they go down for cheating, it's just sad because they could have gone far without it.
2012-11-18 02:44
i.imgur.com/iZIj2.png look, he's even better now !!!!11~~
2012-11-18 02:45
#144
Sweden wmb 
+1
2012-11-18 02:46
4000h + ? WHAT THE FUCK?
2012-11-18 02:54
photoshop bro
2012-11-18 02:59
44000+**
2012-11-18 03:04
#484
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Slovakia kubiaxk 
wow you sir are very good coach
2012-11-18 23:23
hahaha, oh, i dont know where to start, but i can start saying that its not much proof in this video because there is even some clips where there is a smoke on the youtube video, but there isnt even a smoke there (i guess its a .dem bug) but you can watch the vod from ESPlanet and see that on some of these clips on this "bust movie" there isnt even a smoke there.. so cmon guys, better luck next time x(
2012-11-18 02:46
how does it feel to be the most hated swede in the csgo scene? btw there is no "smoke" bug that you talk of. I watched your game live, watched the VoD, and the demo. You aren't legit.
2012-11-18 02:49
#155
Sweden wmb 
Schneider is the most hated swede in the CS:GO scene. Jw is third most hated.
2012-11-18 02:49
And you are the 2nd.
2012-11-18 02:50
and you are second now, if you won't realise you're wrong you'll be 2nd or even 1st soon
2012-11-18 02:52
#167
Sweden wmb 
Haters gonna hate, haters make me famous. Something I stated years ago.
2012-11-18 02:53
yes you'll be famous but in negative meaning, autograph?
2012-11-18 02:59
#167 "Haters gonna hate, haters make me famous. Something I stated years ago." you got hated becous you cheated and enjoyed it like a orgasm. yes ofcoure you will get hated on if you cheat like exelos or wth his name is.
2012-11-18 03:00
You will be never famous...even self-famous lold. The point is that schneider,snokz,BENDJI(don't know where this guy is) and jw are now the most hated.
2012-11-18 16:43
Wrong there, here's the most-hated list in Sweden (top7): 1. wmb 2. wmb 3. wmb 4. mighty 5. lurphan 6. Dennis Faustino (so many nicks.......) 7. haze
2012-11-18 14:44
Bro, that's just wrong
2012-11-18 23:34
+1
2012-11-18 11:20
yeah before all the accusations we didnt know u were 17 commiting ur life to the game
2012-11-18 02:49
yes smokes just appears randomly in demos...right...
2012-11-18 02:51
youtube.com/watch?v=DM_T6gfxY_0&feature=.. 11:35 is the same clip as in youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedde..! 0:46 so yea, they obviously do
2012-11-18 02:53
cheating, NEXT Frank Garnett Welsh 44 minutes ago
2012-11-18 02:58
if you look closely on that vod 11:35 you can see smoke in like 0.1 seconds, what's that? and why would smokes just appear EXACTLY THERE? i would say it was a spectator smokebug looks like you really spent time thinking excuses xD
2012-11-18 03:03
+1
2012-11-18 03:00
Im pretty sure that is a flash that explodes kinda "near" me, that makes that kind of effect, but whatever, im just saying the guy who made this video are making it look like something it isnt
2012-11-18 03:03
Loool, sad. You can cleary see some effects from the smoke while you move.
2012-11-18 03:13
Can you agree what wmb said? You really dropped school and playing 198236128936129836129836hours a day? Hope to see you @LAN proving your skills HAHAHAHAHA
2012-11-18 12:01
pasha will find you
2012-11-18 15:04
Ahaha.
2012-11-18 21:50
oh my god dude, I won't be defending anyone but get your facts straight. Just watch any demo and go to some random tick, you will find the smoke from the previous round there. It's a demo bug. And the thing you mean clearly is a flash, no doubt about it. So again, @ everyone: If you want to proove some smokeshots in csgo, please show the frag from about 3000tick before the frag, that will give the demobug smoke time to disappear.
2012-11-18 16:59
Indeed it does. New to CS:GO Br@h?
2012-11-18 02:55
yes, i'm barely playing. why would smoke appear in just that area?
2012-11-18 03:00
When you skip through a demo looking for a specific time, sometimes the engine will just render a smoke from a previous round.
2012-11-18 03:03
ok my bad, just watched the demo without skipping and it sure was no smoke there :P anyways, this video is still suspicious
2012-11-18 03:30
Yes it's actually true. Play a demo and go to a tick randomly, you'll see that there will be the smokes from the previous round and you will have to wait some time till the smokes disappear.
2012-11-18 03:05
#227
Sweden wmb 
I told you so HLTV numnuts. There's no smoke there actually because of a bug in the playdemo. Now, silence all thx.
2012-11-18 03:14
Well it could be that there's a smoke but to proove it, we would have to see the frag from about 3000 tick earlier. This way you will see/hear the smoke landing there in the actual round.
2012-11-18 03:58
Lol, commiting your life to a game and cheating your way to the top. I bet you are so good at lan you fatty nat.
2012-11-18 02:52
+1
2012-11-18 02:52
#169
Sweden wmb 
And what have you been doing with your life then? Haven't heard any accomplishments when it comes to you. So what accomplishments have you achieved IRL Mr Highroller. I wanna hear em all.
2012-11-18 02:53
he probably has a job and contributes to society and won't be a bum his whole life because he dropped out of HS and won't be able to get a job because you can't put "CSGO player" on your resume XFD
2012-11-18 02:55
I bet he'll make a living out of the game! Yeah, he'll be rich! Especially if he goes on a date: "So, what do you do?" "I play CS:GO and live with my parents" "Yeah, we're done here" OH OH, Let's not forget, the job interviews! Oh man, they will go so well. "Do you have any education or previous experience?" "No, but I play CS:GO and live with my parents" "Yeah, we're done here". Should we be proud of him for quitting school for gaming, because he WANTED to? That's the most retarded ass logic I have ever heard in my entire life, I'm not surprised though, coming from you that's actually one of the more intelligent things you have ever written, even though it's so fucking retarded. When will you fucking realize nobody has ever taken you seriously?
2012-11-19 02:30
hope ur parents will give u a second chance because ur CS "career" seems to be nearing its end :(:(
2012-11-18 03:00
#220
Sweden wmb 
I never dropped out of school for playing games. I study computer science at a regional university. :)
2012-11-18 03:09
oh dude, didnt know i was talkin to u
2012-11-18 03:12
#225
Sweden wmb 
What's the matter with you? Are you that much of a troll needing to troll someone who doesn't know you? If so, please enter /quit life because you need to do that asap.
2012-11-18 03:13
Do you think studying computer science at a university is an achievement?
2012-11-18 15:13
Whatever you say, have fun with pasha at lan :)
2012-11-18 11:24
youtube.com/watch?v=wMyLoDyhRBU&feature=.. Go to 1:21 and look at his aim and listen to the commentator. "Ops That was wierd" He cheats, clearly.
2012-11-18 02:50
The commentator has absolutely no clue about this game sadly. He mistakes many regular actions for cheating scenes.
2012-11-18 02:57
#190
Sweden wmb 
First person who actually understands my frustration here.
2012-11-18 02:59
frustration? You've been riding your boyfriend all thread bro
2012-11-18 03:00
Wmb read my #73 you're a cheater aswell
2012-11-18 03:02
couldn't be suprised lol
2012-11-18 03:07
#222
Sweden wmb 
That's typical fanboys who don't know a shit about what they're saying. DL my POVs on HLTV.org and see if I cheat, or how about dling all those demos I post usually. If you want them all for which is being used on my fragmovie, just PM.
2012-11-18 03:10
Excuse me? Please point out the "many" regular scenes where i say someone cheats in this game.
2012-11-18 03:53
But it wasnt xelos who killed CT at 1:21. emilio did...
2012-11-18 03:01
either way the team was cheating and as you did see he traced him.
2012-11-18 03:03
then look from 1:21 to 1:30 ;)
2012-11-18 03:04
He random shooting? whats the point? he's clearly tracing him thrue the wall
2012-11-18 04:16
yes thats what i meant
2012-11-18 11:50
To be fair, he isn't tracking the guy through the wall. He is checking the kitchen spots and the counter-terrorist just happened to run past, a wall behind that. I don't think he's cheating although you can't be sure, I just think it's really dodgy that two known cheaters (wmb1 and kigge) come in here defending him. Why would those guys defend him when they've never played/known eachother before? :D
2012-11-18 14:39
ahahahaa pasha '' give me your demos if you haxx i will find you'' :D:D:D
2012-11-18 02:57
lol , they win ESC online ?? cant be. CHEATER They cant shoot trough smoke.
2012-11-18 03:01
I don`t like video, however cheating seems far more credible than other possibilities.
2012-11-18 03:20
2012-11-18 03:24
1:21 haha "oh that was weird" and actually so true haha
2012-11-18 04:24
#245
Kray | 
World ashhh 
wmb1 has issues that is all edit: playing nip and literally no fear at all. lmao
2012-11-18 03:38
Seems like it's the topic of the day, nobody can say if they're cheating or not and obviously if they're cheating they will not say that they did.. WRTT needs to prove themselves at lan, because it's the only way to judge them.. by the way coloN told me that he's proud of you guys
2012-11-18 03:35
I hope he's clean, but the fact that wmb defends it makes it kind of obvious in my book.
2012-11-18 03:37
You just won this thread.
2012-11-18 03:43
+1
2012-11-18 03:43
Really excited to see what the admins decision will be, there's no way to prove whether they cheat or not without letting them play at LAN though in my opinion. There are indeed a few suspicious sequences, but not really any obvious ones that I personally observed. I guess all players can have godlike moments, and I think that everyone on here has probably done some suspicious things in their hours of gaming CS as well. Pretty much every time when new players win against decent/good teams they get accused for beeing ineters. I'm excited to see how they'll perform at LANs, that's the only real proof we can get.
2012-11-18 03:45
#262
Sweden wmb 
This seems hilarious, so now the players I've defended are cheaters? =D Didn't I defend dalito years ago when they accused him of cheating? Yes I did, and I was right, he didn't cheat? The same thing is with jw? I have defended so many gamers over the years, and I've my reasons to. I cannot see unjust going on or false allegations. Tired of them and hopefully we'll see if Jw can compete in some topteam in nearest future.
2012-11-18 03:47
I'm pretty much certain that if you defend a cheater, he is cheating. That's just the way it's been on fragbite.
2012-11-19 02:31
If its not cheat, these guys just display the sickest kind of gaming ive ever seen and ever will see in my entire life i can ensure. On top of it - out of nowhere dem I-net heroes emerge from the unknown shadows, w0w all hail dem Legends in a unified ra0R "!!"
2012-11-18 03:50
lmao wmb1, you are on another level of trolling ... or just retarded
2012-11-18 04:02
NEI þú
2012-11-18 04:05
come at me bra
2012-11-18 04:06
HAHAHA wmb1mode+ is activated HAHAH nice thread +1 +1 for jw, ALL DAY EVERYDAY I DONT GIVE A FUCK For all of ya ppl: DONT JUDGE JW, let him prove himself!
2012-11-18 04:17
You can't judge if he's cheating or not at all by this since it's only shown with xray. It does look dodgy, but you can't say for certain if he's cheating or not. Somebody make a movie with comparisons with it off and then on.
2012-11-18 04:13
you're right, who are we to defy your superior judgement
2012-11-18 04:18
No need to be a cunt. It's a valid point.
2012-11-18 04:25
not at all, blatant as fuck each to their own I guess
2012-11-18 04:28
I'm guessing because one of WRTT didn't record they will be disqualified, no need for the admins to even review the pov demos
2012-11-18 04:22
They got everyones demo from both ESC match and the NiP match, 2 demos from every player, 1 per map, etc, so no :P
2012-11-18 04:26
Is it true what wmb1 said that you dropped out of highschool and have no social life and that you never leave your room and your parents leave a plate of food for you so you can play GO 10 hours a day??
2012-11-18 04:54
It might be true, I also can imagine the drama in how he forces his mother and father working in shifts by open thier mouths every now and then taking dat pile of shits and piss right down the oral way. Ya'd not need a normal toilet then foh shua man.
2012-11-18 05:08
He probably never had a social life from the start so it wasn't such a huge loss for him.
2012-11-18 16:32
hey cheater, big up bro
2012-11-18 11:29
I like Jesper, and this isn't as fishy as some more obvious bust videos I've seen in the past (no tracing through walls, hesitating before running into a site, etc.). However, nearly everyone in stream chat was convinced xelos cheated, so I'd be more concerned about him than Jesper.
2012-11-18 07:49
Cheat ofc
2012-11-18 08:03
-FY77R3 + JW GOGOGO fnatic. xD
2012-11-18 08:36
To be honest, I think that jw didn't cheated. I can't be so sure because on this "bustmovie" weird situations are showed only by X-Ray. If you want to accuse him for cheat, first create complete video with weird situations with X-Ray, wallhack or whatever and then make situation without any aid. Then we have rights to say something.
2012-11-18 10:39
#319
Poland tfg 
cheated :D
2012-11-18 10:43
2 idiots from sweden in thread
2012-11-18 10:48
please ban that wmb
2012-11-18 10:52
0:40 no doubt wh
2012-11-18 11:46
cheat....
2012-11-18 12:18
ScEnE ShoCkER
2012-11-18 12:24
Dont blame JW it´s not even him on 70% of the clips, it´s samzter not jw (jw is on some clips)
2012-11-18 12:30
riiight
2012-11-18 12:38
"riiight" look at the video nick "samzter" that is another guy, retard
2012-11-18 12:42
so im the retard, and ur the onlyone that dont know that his fakenicking
2012-11-18 12:50
first clip, it´s samzter 2nd jw 3rd samzter 4th samzter 5th jw last one (#6) jw, so 50% of the clips is not jw, so flame samzter too :)
2012-11-18 12:46
dude pls go and suicide its jw in all the matches but i'm not sure that he cheated, it could happened to all to have a good day and kill everything that moves..They didn't play with anticheat, so the only ''proof'' that they've cheated are the povs. I watched his streams and i think that he is a very good player... but how high can he go i can't tell you. He must step up at the next offline event and prove that he is clean.
2012-11-18 13:15
are you retard? it´s all from the same match, it´s 2 players on the movie fucking retard
2012-11-18 14:28
maybe because he changed the nick during?! i guess that the mother of stupid people is always pregnant, i'm feeling sorry for you.
2012-11-18 14:52
You see, here's the part when you are embarrassing yourself. It's jw the whole video, he just fakenicked cuz some insidejoke between him and samzter. Go to school and stop playing CS:GO, fucktard. :)~
2012-11-18 15:01
You are the retard here, he changed nick in the game.
2012-11-18 15:12
There are four very questionable situations. 1) When JW walks to underpass and T is behind the crate, his reflexes takes over him, he stops and he moves his crosshair closer but realizes that afterwards and takes crosshair back to the usual angle. 2) When T throws the smoke and JW shoots just when the T passes by. Then he tries to cover it with two other shots. 3) When he shoots the T in the middle while he is in smoke. Why would somebody do a flickshot like that into the smoke. 4) The fact that he never checked the corner in upper stairs after 10 (?) rounds and suddenly he just happens to check the corner when T sneaks up there. There is no way his teammates could have give info about that. Later on he doesn't check that corner either. So, yeah...
2012-11-18 13:42
+1
2012-11-18 14:25
+1
2012-11-18 19:20
Wait for LAN and we will see:)
2012-11-18 13:42
I will watch every micrometer at DreamHack Winter these guys moves, Im really looking forward to see this team outplay every team and open up a new "out side the box" dimension how optimal CS eventually should be played. And these guys must have The answer at LAN otherwise they will implode like pieace of human flesh sinking down at marianas trench. For now WRTT is the best team in the world, they are as it seems a level above NiP, as mentioned it will be a pure joy see them dominate so hard at DHW.
2012-11-18 13:44
this is not cheat !!! l2p and after u can discuss
2012-11-18 14:18
#357
Sweden z7x 
we played against HeLlSlAyErZ and beating them on nuke before going towards the NIP match.(match50 on bracks) MysaNGoud (jw) wasnt that of a beast, but i guess changing team to WRTT makes you better then NIP, then i would like that team change aswell :D
2012-11-18 14:27
IT´S NOT ONLY MYSAN/JW IT´S 2 PLAYERS, JW AND SAMZTER are you guys slow..
2012-11-18 14:29
haha wow man u must be retarded, defending ur mate without even watching the VOD to realize that its the same person all the time
2012-11-18 16:29
pls change topic to MysaN/JW/JesperW *AND SAMZTER* cheat vs ESC @ CS:GO
2012-11-18 14:30
hack ofc.
2012-11-18 14:38
#369
Sweden PPH 
is it a bird ? is it a plane ? no its the cheating fish blob blob fragbite.se/?imgID=35693
2012-11-18 14:50
ahahahahahaha trololololololo :D:D:D thanks dude you made my day with this picture
2012-11-18 14:59
AHHAHAHA
2012-11-18 15:08
lol
2012-11-18 15:19
holy shit rofl what a weird looking guy
2012-11-18 15:22
that's really mature of you.
2012-11-18 15:32
more mature of him to make fun of his looks than to cheat in the Thor Open XFDDDDDDDD
2012-11-18 16:31
It's to obvious he dosen't use any kind of hack.
2012-11-18 16:42
and that comes from you????? :D
2012-11-18 18:00
shut up bitch
2012-11-18 18:26
+1
2012-11-18 19:04
why does it matter how he looks? most of the good gamers aren't amazingly good looking. they're gamers, not models
2012-11-18 17:27
says tasha
2012-11-18 19:31
says zikkan :)
2012-11-18 23:37
Not enough proof in this video, but I guess they're cheating.
2012-11-18 14:58
he's always streaming, so would be nice to start streaming those "important" matches against high teams, just to see how does he rolls
2012-11-18 15:13
haha, cmon man, i loose like 100-200 fps, i barely have 100 fps while streaming, and streaming matches u really want to win is not that smart because you will play SHITTIER with so low fps, you must understand... Give me a better computer and i promise you i will stream every game i play =DDD
2012-11-18 15:43
don't shit bro. What about those people who have like 80-90 fps all the time? Become pro just for 2 matches is kinda wierd isn't it? Plus you are from sweden and you should be able to buy a computer from 1500$ without any problems. So there is no excuse for this.
2012-11-18 19:08
You can have a lot of fun in sweden for 1500$ aswell.
2012-11-18 19:33
I know. But i was just pointing out about "streaming issues" he have.
2012-11-18 19:43
Too many fishy actions for 1 game. My guess is he´s cheating.
2012-11-18 15:20
they were cheating with wmb cheats.
2012-11-18 15:34
images.fragbite.com/img.archives/intelby.. hotboy jesperwOW *notChEaTinG*
2012-11-18 15:37
HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHA this is jW?
2012-11-18 15:43
What's funny?
2012-11-18 15:48
nothing
2012-11-18 16:15
you his boyfriend or something
2012-11-18 16:30
Excuse me kind sir, but do you have a minor visual defect?
2012-11-18 16:42
No.
2012-11-18 19:00
so the thing is mentally :( feel sorry about you
2012-11-18 23:30
#490
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Venezuela Riikards 
lmao
2012-11-18 23:50
looks like a pig cheating pig
2012-11-18 15:48
nice face hahhaahaha
2012-11-18 16:25
but how old is he ?
2012-11-18 23:32
HGAHAHAHAHAH LOOOOOOOOOOOOL DAFUQ PIG FACE XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2012-11-19 18:49
haha:))
2012-11-18 16:18
Dude looks like a duck with a fat face and the greasiest comb over ever
2012-11-18 15:47
Pretty mature from you guys because of making jokes on someone's appearance. I'm pretty sure that 70% of you guys are 10 times uglier than him.
2012-11-18 15:53
69% of all statistics are made up on the spot
2012-11-18 16:30
And 47,3% of all statistics are incorrect.
2012-11-18 16:42
Okay fatty American.
2012-11-18 18:59
Nice comeback. What has Denmark ever done for the world besides Kierkegaard and surrendering to the nazis in less than a day?
2012-11-18 19:10
We were the first to legalize pictorial pornography, in 1969, notice the year. Case closed.
2012-11-18 19:39
+1
2012-11-18 21:06
#454
CHEDEL | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
do you even lift brah ?
2012-11-18 19:37
#430
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Netherlands jen5on 
nice one, accuse someone of cheating by making a bugmovie :)
2012-11-18 17:53
demo-smokebug proof screen: img708.imageshack.us/img708/4342/jwdemos.. It shows that there's a smoke in the "bustvideo" which wasn't there in the real match.
2012-11-18 17:56
if we exclude that situation the rest is still very suspicious. We understand that it was a smokebug
2012-11-18 17:57
#434
Norway wna 
ugly people always cheat. truestory.
2012-11-18 18:13
You're a proof of that right?
2012-11-18 18:17
#437
Norway wna 
HOHO FUNNYMAN, but rly this jw guy is living proof.
2012-11-18 18:39
I don't see the proofs, the video is not enough proof to call him a cheater.
2012-11-18 19:04
#443
Norway wna 
hurr durr.. O__o
2012-11-18 19:05
><((((•>
2012-11-18 19:26
#455
CHEDEL | 
Switzerland CHEDEL 
wth
2012-11-18 19:38
This is pic with probably Jesper getting hax. If it's true Pasha is coming for him.
2012-11-18 19:45
2012-11-18 19:47
Maybe this is beginning of the new meme...
2012-11-18 19:48
:DD
2012-11-18 20:19
This wmb1 guy is a fucking clown. Remember those fragbite threads.
2012-11-18 19:52
u2? :D
2012-11-18 20:24
Respect the game! ban cheaters 4ever! Neo was right! +1
2012-11-18 20:55
what's so funny?
2012-11-18 23:09
pretty shit 'bust movie' if im entirely honest.
2012-11-18 21:58
100% cheats
2012-11-18 22:10
Its funny how cocky this guy is on his stream. He must have been bullied in the school.
2012-11-18 23:09
i bet that majority of people there didn't even watch the video and posted comment "cheater" cuz neo made this bustmovie which is in my opinion not clearly pointing out that jw has cheated.. if they wanted to prove that he cheated they need much more evidences than this shitty video
2012-11-18 23:11
#493
Sweden wmb 
I told you fkn nonamers that he was clean. Fkn retard piece of HLTV scrubs. Now I started to realize that people on Cadred are much more mature than this piece of shit site. Look at all them talking about jw looks when its a computer game. I hope all of you who comment jw looks will die in a big blazing fire one day
2012-11-19 11:08
well that will count you as well... have a good day sir.
2012-11-19 11:07
#495
Sweden wmb 
that wouldnt count me at all you scrub. go back to being "ArcadioN fan" instead. my patience with the people on this site is below 0 right now because not only do you guys ruin the scene, you also talk bullshit about games you never could comprehend. (like zaitham spamming shit about cspromod when he infact were scrub at 1.6) so ridicolous im tired of this shit
2012-11-19 11:09
i dont see what me being an arcadion fan has to do with anything here. have a good day sir.
2012-11-19 11:15
#497
Sweden wmb 
so neccesary to add "have a good day sir". AS IF I could care for you wishing me a good day. Don't need your bullshit and don't act like your someone either. "Wich" What a piece of scrub you are infact, troll 0/10
2012-11-19 11:16
i dont understand why your so mad all the time... cheer up mate!
2012-11-19 11:18
#501
yxo | 
Ukraine piratz0r 
no gf prolly
2012-11-19 11:29
well thats sad.... but why be mad about it? :o
2012-11-19 11:32
ok niGGa nonamer
2012-11-19 16:46
a ban to a single user here will reduce the size of this thread by half :-D
2012-11-19 11:26
lol wmb1 is like FODDER xD
2012-11-19 11:43
if he dropped out of highschool to play cs, and he plays it 8 hours a day, im sure if he didnt cheat he would come to dreamhack and play the byoc. if he really wants to be a professional gamer
2012-11-26 15:47
#510
Albania p4v 
Nice cheat DIck head :/ . . .
2012-11-28 10:32
wwho cares if hes cheating which he clearly is but hes a DROPOUT!!!
2012-11-28 11:19
jesperW sponsored by the TAPOUT i mean DROPOUT CLOTHING!!!
2012-11-28 11:21
Are all aussies on such a mental level like you? he dropped school whaaat?
2013-03-26 19:22
1st moment is completely wrong, there was no smoke. Its common bug (or it was) when you move time slider in the demo, smokes that were deployed will stay through the time. Other smokeshots are probably the same thing, therefore author either is incompetent or just made it look like there are cheats, knowing this bug.
2013-11-27 21:01
bro where have you been Created 2012-11-18 01:20
2013-11-27 21:05
why the fuck does this thread get bumped
2013-11-27 21:05
old but gold
2013-11-27 21:06
once a cheater always a cheater. Thats what hilary clinton said anyway
2013-11-27 21:08
it said jason statham
2013-11-27 21:24
#534
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Denmark Blankeh 
butthurt whiners... i bet if you look through my demos you can find ALOT like this, its game sense and sometimes pure luck and randomness
2013-11-27 21:14
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