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Poland Kubster 
this format is really stupid ... vitality and ence after losing one bo1 playing in elmination match ??? where is logic?
2019-07-03 15:39
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Poland SebL
They could just win match everything would be ok.
2019-07-03 15:39
18 replies
everyone can win in bo1...
2019-07-03 15:40
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#7
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Poland SebL
Yes, but those matches werent even close.
2019-07-03 15:42
16 replies
are u dumb?
2019-07-03 15:43
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#11
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Poland SebL
You are?
2019-07-03 15:43
14 replies
your iq is not bigger than 50
2019-07-03 15:44
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#15
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Poland SebL
Any argument? Or typical polak thinking that is smart without any arguments?
2019-07-03 15:45
12 replies
in your opinion herioc will have a chance in bo3 vs ence or nip vs vitality?
2019-07-03 15:47
11 replies
heroic*
2019-07-03 15:46
#24
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Poland SebL
Even if no? What does it change? bo1 is still a format and u still have to win games in it. And im sure yesterday Heroic played much better than ENCE, thats why they won, they deserved it.
2019-07-03 15:49
8 replies
will the change of bo1 to bo3 in the first round not be better?
2019-07-03 15:52
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#29
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Poland SebL
It will be better for better teams for sure, because they have better mappool, but imo Underdogs should have their chance aswell.
2019-07-03 15:53
6 replies
chance for underdogs and after this top2 and top3 teams in elmination match???
2019-07-03 15:54
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#34
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Poland SebL
As i said its their fault they lost. Not format. But its kinda bad true.
2019-07-03 15:55
4 replies
this format needs a small change
2019-07-03 15:57
3 replies
#39
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Poland SebL
Not really. It would be boring if upsets wouldnt happend.
2019-07-03 15:57
2 replies
yes, but it looks strange when the top2 team plays with top3
2019-07-03 15:58
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#45
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Poland SebL
Unlucky draw of the bracket. But ye it looks strange.
2019-07-03 16:00
obviously?
2019-07-03 15:59
ENCE FAN
2019-07-03 15:39
1 reply
nt
2019-07-03 15:40
#4
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Denmark Farmand
i agree that it is kinda fukked up but they just have to win their matches
2019-07-03 15:40
4 replies
that was bo1...
2019-07-03 15:42
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#28
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Finland Faust_fSt
Bo1 doesn't mean it should be won by the underdog, though.
2019-07-03 15:52
2 replies
yes, only that in bo3 it would be known who is better
2019-07-03 15:54
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#36
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Finland Faust_fSt
Upsets happen in bo3s as well, just less. I'm pissed off that ENCE went out of the tournament right away, but they played terrible vs Heroic and vs Vitality on 2/3 maps so they deserve to go home. The format is not at fault. Renegades also got 2-0'd by Furia and MiBR lost vs BIG, none of these teams deserve any more than what they received.
2019-07-03 15:56
#6
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Turkey ok4N__
because they lost underdog teams
2019-07-03 15:42
4 replies
on bo1 ... if it would be bo3 that should be ez for ence and vit
2019-07-03 15:43
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#22
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Turkey ok4N__
im not sure about this i think ence is done
2019-07-03 15:48
2 replies
what about nip vs vitality? do nip have chance to beat them in bo3 ?
2019-07-03 15:49
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#31
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Turkey ok4N__
if forest and rez in form it s possible and if u lost unluckly , u can beat other loser if u have potential
2019-07-03 15:54
its not the format bro.... This tournament is very stacked man, of course you're going to get some big names going out early not everyone can win you know...
2019-07-03 15:44
1 reply
maybe just change bo1 on first round to bo3?
2019-07-03 15:45
This format is really stupid, I don't know who created this peace of shit, it would be better if each team play against every one in bo1 matchs and after that play in eliminaton matches bo3. Poor english but you can understand! kkk
2019-07-03 15:44
1 reply
just change all bo1 to bo3 in this format and that should be better
2019-07-03 15:48
dont worry my man twistzz will carry liquid to lift the trophy
2019-07-03 15:46
1 reply
i hope
2019-07-03 15:47
#23
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Switzerland zaViM
how can people say its fair wtf? do you really want two top3 teams face an elimination match only because they lost 1 BO1 (ONE, not 3 like is needed in BO1 Swiss system to get eliminated, ONE) on the very first day of the tournament (it is well known that many teams tend to underperform on the first day because they need to get used to setup/they're jet lagged)??? How do you call this fair? I would like to see a tournament for once where the reverse format is in place: Opening match BO3 to put underdog teams in uncomfortable position and all the other matches in the winners' bracket BO1. Losers' bracket all BO3. This way underdog teams have a chance to play more maps (normally they should go to losers' bracket already on the first round, where they played at least 2 maps instead of 1). Top teams need to lose 2 BO3 to get eliminated, and not 1 BO1 and 1 BO3. NOW THIS IS WHAT I CALL FAIR.
2019-07-03 15:49
3 replies
just change bo1 in first round to bo3 and that should be better
2019-07-03 15:51
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#33
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Switzerland zaViM
but that just doesn't work otherwise ESL would have already done it. It's too many BO3, they're trying to make tournaments as short as possible. You suggest replacing 8 BO1s with 8 BO3s, that is a lot of time which needs to be added to tournament duration. In my solution we would just go from 8 BO1s to 6BO1s, so I think it's feasible.
2019-07-03 15:55
1 reply
this is also a good idea
2019-07-03 15:56
starladder best format
2019-07-03 15:57
3 replies
swiss, u mean?
2019-07-03 15:57
2 replies
no random bo1 shits only bo3 finals should be bo5 i think
2019-07-03 15:58
1 reply
that is better than esl format
2019-07-03 16:00
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