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Capitalism is a cancer.
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United States tatsumi 
“Capitalism makes it so that people who work hard and deserve it become rich!” Meanwhile... famousbirthsdeaths.com/belle-delphine-bi.. wow so i can get rich just buy showing horny 14 year olds my censored flat ass titties? damn society sucks rn
2019-07-07 01:16
#1
shrek | 
Poland AntOOr 
Socialism is bigger cancer Closed
2019-07-07 01:20
/open +1 /close
2019-07-07 04:17
/open
2019-07-08 16:01
what about national socialism?
2019-07-07 06:53
#132
shrek | 
Poland AntOOr 
Threat is talking about like extreme case of disorder of the capitalism. You wanna know what is extreme case of socialism disorder? People who lived in poland before 1989 know and it was the worst thing that happened to this land from economic, political and libertarian site
2019-07-07 10:08
Germany 1934-45. No thank you.
2019-07-07 15:49
yea you shouldnt have murdered german citizens in west-poland so germany wouldnt have attacked you
2019-07-07 16:16
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-07-07 16:24
what?
2019-07-07 17:12
HAHAHAHA made my day wtf
2019-07-08 14:21
? nice argument
2019-07-09 14:15
German 1934 > Poland 2019
2019-07-08 06:05
/open Nope /close
2019-07-07 15:23
+1
2019-07-07 16:15
+1
2019-07-07 16:25
silence liberal
2019-07-07 01:21
#18
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United States tatsumi 
im national socialist mens ))))
2019-07-07 01:45
#77
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United States Acehavok 
I see you’re a man of culture
2019-07-07 05:58
me too <3
2019-07-07 16:17
+1 We want to build up a new state! That is why the others hate us so much today…. They are, after all, plutocracies in which a tiny clique of capitalists dominate the masses, and this, naturally, in close cooperation with international Jews and Freemasons. In those countries, it is actually capital that rules; that is, nothing more than a clique of a few hundred men who possess untold wealth and, as a consequence of the peculiar structure of their national life, are more or less independent and free. They say: 'Here we have liberty.' By this they mean, above all, an uncontrolled economy, and by an uncontrolled economy, the freedom not only to acquire capital but to make absolutely free use of it. That means freedom from national control or control by the people both in the acquisition of capital and in its employment. This is really what they mean when they speak of liberty. These capitalists create their own press and then speak of the 'freedom of the press.' In reality, every one of the newspapers has a master, and in every case this master is the capitalist, the owner. This master, not the editor, is the one who directs the policy of the paper. If the editor tries to write other than what suits the master, he is ousted the next day. This press, which is the absolutely submissive and characterless slave of the owners, molds public opinion.
2019-07-08 06:08
Lmao this guy is not a liberal.
2019-07-07 01:59
Hello brother
2019-07-07 05:53
Hello to you, brother
2019-07-07 06:04
+1
2019-07-08 03:01
If it was that easy all women would be rich. She is smart enough to profit out of it unlike other plebs, gotta give it to her.
2019-07-07 01:21
she also has enough confidence, while other women might not.
2019-07-07 01:30
Indeed, this sort of fame is kind of a sacrifice.
2019-07-07 01:39
+1
2019-07-07 04:09
Agreed, Dimitrii - HLTV.org Also why doesn’t Professeur or Jonathan E. Just give you the name dimitri??
2019-07-07 07:36
#178
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
Because there's no such name as "Dimitri", Sherlock. Dimitriï is the best option you can get with latin letters (yes, it's not an i, but an Ï)
2019-07-07 17:26
#4
JaCkz | 
Europe cArn5 
Yes
2019-07-07 01:23
#5
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Poland CoiletTleaner 
how are these things ever related?
2019-07-07 01:27
even*
2019-07-07 14:53
so you think she shouldnt be allowed to do that or what is your problem? are you a communist?
2019-07-07 01:31
#19
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United States tatsumi 
it’s degenerate
2019-07-07 01:46
you're just jealous because she gets free money and you probably work a shitty 9-5 job xD
2019-07-07 01:58
#22
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United States tatsumi 
ok white knight
2019-07-07 03:10
youre literally hating on her because shes successful
2019-07-07 05:29
#96
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Europe m9_ 
no, if you read his words he is hating on her because of how she got successful, still hating, but ur small minded
2019-07-07 06:12
Mmmm belle's feet are delicious *licks lips*
2019-07-08 06:12
Mmmm belle's feet are delicious *licks lips*
2019-07-08 06:12
Take THAT feminists hardy dar dar
2019-07-07 01:31
why u steal my account
2019-07-07 03:55
#9
vsm | 
Brazil hNkV 
cancer kills, yes, but hunger kills more.
2019-07-07 01:35
#97
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Europe m9_ 
+1
2019-07-07 06:13
And capitalism is direcly responsible of both cancer increase and world hunger.
2019-07-07 14:53
As well as medical advancements that have saved hundreds of millions of lives. How has it increased world hunger when less people starve today than before?
2019-07-07 15:09
Capitalism did this ? Not scientists ? Do you think Chinese or USSR or Nazi scientists didn't discover anything ? But they were not in capitalist system. Scientific proficiency is more related to culture than money. I never said it increased world hunger, but it is responsible for the fact that world hunger doesn't decrease today. Extreme poverty is a natural consequence of extreme concentration of wealth, any retard will understand this. Saying less people starve today than before is simply false, as a percentage it might be true but there are still 800 000 millions people starving, which is the same number as the start of the 20th century. So still as many people are starving but we multiplied food production by 10. This is totally unacceptable to me, obviously fine in a capitalistic logic.
2019-07-07 15:20
America produces far more medicines than the rest of the developed world due to their capitalist system. Its still better anyway if a smaller percentage of people starve? If we have grown as a society and made progress in the percentage of people having enough food to eat, how is that not a good thing? Edit: ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/04/Extre..
2019-07-07 16:14
You are saying this like if economic values of the goods where the only thing that matters... How many people are able to afford it and how many are not ? What's the gap between rich and poor healthcare ? How many medicines are wasted every year ? What cost to the environment, thus the health of the people ? Is all that medicines always necessary or does it become a business ? How many abuse of monopoly power to manipulate the prices and profit from vulnerable ill people ? So many questions that capitalism don't answer because it is not part of its system. Do you know that life expectancy has been dropping for the last 5 years in the US ? But of course you don't care because you are capitalist: only growth count.
2019-07-07 16:28
Maybe in America their version of capitalism goes too far and there are side-effects, but everywhere else in the world on average more people are getting healthcare access, living longer etc. despite all the profit being taken out. The profit motive leads to so much extra benefits for normal people as a side effect compared to stagnant, authoritarian control with massive administrative costs.
2019-07-07 16:37
both capitalism and socialism are bad if extreme, but its good when its in a middle. thats why you SHOULD become a national socialist
2019-07-07 01:35
6/8
2019-07-07 01:40
your brain is 0/8
2019-07-07 01:41
I just said your bait was good and you insult me, ok.
2019-07-07 01:43
braindead spotted
2019-07-07 05:53
nt yugoslavia
2019-07-07 06:46
got me in the first half ngl
2019-07-08 06:05
I used to think capitalism is like equal to darwinism but replace physical strength/health of an invidual with money but I may have to rethink that now, among millennials it's more about them likes and they will go great lengths to achieve them. Next we will be ruled by people like that when social media status is what defines your status in the community, this would have been a much more logical meaning of socialism tbh.
2019-07-07 01:38
very insightful.
2019-07-07 01:44
Except in this case of Darwinism a cub will survive by sucking off it's mother teets it's whole life
2019-07-08 06:16
#16
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Brazil fuNNa 
capitalism is best
2019-07-07 01:43
#23
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Finland Fliida 
Don't worry, soon I'll be worth 500k by showing my flat man chest.
2019-07-07 03:13
Socialism is heart disease.
2019-07-07 03:14
#25
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
watch van der Layen. She failed at every job she took and people like Macron suggest her for the most important part of the EU. Capitalism doesn't mean the hard worker get rewarded. Capitalism means the best selling bitches get rewarded. That is capitalism. If the best would get rewarded: Johnny Cash- Hurt cover would have now 10 billion views... Think about it
2019-07-07 03:21
What makes you think she doesn't deserve that money? What would you do about forbidding her not to get it in a *unproper way*? Just a question, not contesting it.
2019-07-07 06:47
#134
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
what money?
2019-07-07 14:45
Earning
2019-07-07 20:05
Same for Christine Lagarde tbh. She is an American agent and 400 millions € disappeared under her watch at the FMI, she still get chosen nonetheless.
2019-07-07 14:57
trust me u dont want to live even one day on a socialist country as a citizen
2019-07-07 04:12
#36
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Band member of Rammstein who all were born in the DDR never said it was bad. I mention that cuz they are a winner in capitalism. So they saw both sides. The question is always how people live there. In Venezuela, for example, only the military get an advantage out of it.
2019-07-07 04:39
#80
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United States tatsumi 
unless its national socialism
2019-07-07 05:59
Nt commie
2019-07-07 04:18
#81
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United States tatsumi 
im nazi menss)))
2019-07-07 05:59
If people provide a service, they should be rewarded for it. Belle delphine puts time into creating videos, time sculpting her body, money buying a multitude of outfits, money advertising herself, time responding to people -- I think that in any scenario time invested into a craft should be given a payout
2019-07-07 04:31
#82
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United States tatsumi 
i dont think she uses hltv
2019-07-07 06:00
Dude you're can hate on her all you want, but he's right, she did put time into creating her brand. Of course the amount of money she makes is disproportionately large compared to the amount of effort she puts in, but you should be mad at every moron who buys her stuff.
2019-07-07 06:22
What does she specifically sell?
2019-07-07 06:51
Bath water, there may be other stuff, but idk what it is.
2019-07-07 07:27
#125
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United States tatsumi 
u have a point. she was pretty smart to become a millionaire by manipulating horny kids
2019-07-07 07:00
capitalism as an economic system is dying and rightfully so. National socialism is the answer
2019-07-07 04:32
how exactly is it "dying"? It is being used in southeast asia for immense economic prosperity in the form of neoliberal economic reforms, alongside Cyprus (why cyprus is able to rebound from its depression while greece plummets), and China in the form of special economic zones
2019-07-07 04:36
wait till next global recession and war
2019-07-07 04:37
inevitable occurrence even in "national socialism", just felt less when a country capitalized upon a supply sided economic system rather than twiddling their thumbs with a dysfunctional, debt causing welfare system
2019-07-07 04:41
#87
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France 0racle 
But asians have bigger iq
2019-07-07 06:01
#84
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United States tatsumi 
+1111111111111111
2019-07-07 06:00
#33
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Oceania Rusuli 
SUPPLY AND DEMAND
2019-07-07 04:35
#38
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
the problem in capitalism is. You power up the supply no matter what the ending resources said. When people don't buy it they throw it away and in the long term. Capitalism will let us die. Cuz one simple reason. Capitalism lives now and trades the future for more income.
2019-07-07 04:43
#40
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Oceania Rusuli 
You have no alternative, and you won't find one which wastes less. I'm not saying full on free market is best, you understand
2019-07-07 04:46
#41
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
to say you have no alternative says you have no free will. But we humans have. So this isn't an excuse. Animals who have no clue that they die someday or why they die, they have no alternatives
2019-07-07 04:47
#43
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Oceania Rusuli 
You have no alternative, as in, you cannot find a system that will provide a similar standard of living without using capitalism. I'm not saying I'd stop you, I'm saying you're incapable/ it's impossible
2019-07-07 04:49
#45
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
one mistake in the past tries was they planning was very bad, with better math skill you can do it better. Yes, you don't get so much outcome but this doesn't mean you have a worse life. Imagen you don't need a Porsche to be happy. Artist could still do the same work with a lot less money on their bank account and you only use resources you really need and you can be sure your kids will have the same as you. I would say this has a better future than it has right now. If I think about kids, I see them dying or be used as slaves... cuz we are at that point already.
2019-07-07 04:52
#48
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Oceania Rusuli 
I am not a materialist myself. I hate consumerist culture. I don't think we should have a debt powered society. But you are implying communism here, so I have to remind you of this: If the doctor is paid the same as the janitor, the doctor BECOMES a janitor. He will not stay in his high stress job. Society fails. You cannot tax the entrepreneur of his profits, and expect him to sweat to invent more great things. People are not motivated to excell by constant returns. Society is still doing alright. I agree that the financial system needs a shakeup. I also know that communism will get you nowhere.
2019-07-07 04:57
#51
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
the DDR as example died cuz there wasn't money anymore and cuz of the wall. Both things that don't matter if you have the whole world in that system. You can erase the money. Without money a doctor is a killer or real doctor, between this there is nothing.
2019-07-07 05:01
#52
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Oceania Rusuli 
Exactly - If you invade every country in the world, kill all those who resist, kill everyone trying to sell their excess crops, bring the world down to african standards of living so we can all be equal, and threaten people at gunpoint to do the most dangerous jobs for a few cents a day then the system will work. BRAVO.
2019-07-07 05:04
"But you are implying communism here, so I have to remind you of this: If the doctor is paid the same as the janitor, " Mate have you ever read anything about communism? " You cannot tax the entrepreneur of his profits, and expect him to sweat to invent more great things. " Is this why Cuba is one of the leading countrys for advancements in the medical field? Truth is, for many people money isn't the incentive to invent something. They do it because they are about it. It's something they are passionate about.
2019-07-07 05:12
#57
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Oceania Rusuli 
Ah, you! welcome back. Remember, your philosophy is inherently violent. I've been there myself a few years ago. Try working on it to make it less homicidal. Yes, I know plenty about communism, more than you do. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozyorsk,_Chelyabin.. is one example of something you don't know about communism. "they do it for passion" - Sure, allow the whims of passion to drive society. Remember, anyone trying to incentivise a particular kind of service is a traitor who must be killed!
2019-07-07 05:18
"Remember, your philosophy is inherently violent. I've been there myself a few years ago. Try working on it to make it less homicidal." So is every other system. No system works without violence. Welcome to the real world my friend. "Yes, I know plenty about communism, more than you do. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozyorsk,_Chelyabin.. is one example of something you don't know about communism. " That's not my point but nt. still doesn't change the fact that the doctor doesn't become the janitor in communism " Sure, allow the whims of passion to drive society" Yeah I'm sure it's better to let greedy fucks who only care about themselves drive society.
2019-07-07 05:21
#61
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Oceania Rusuli 
OK so let's see... "No system works without violence" - I'll concede that we need police to keep order, but I won't concede that we need violence to keep order. We will lock you up if you don't pay taxes, but we won't lock you up for paying zero tax on zero income. You should not have to say "every other system", I'll remind you that my position is one of regulated capitalism with some essential services provided by the state. I cannot and will not justify EVERY system as better than communism - and I will laugh if you claim that as a victory. "That's not my point but nt" - translates to "cool story bro, needs more dragons". I'd still recommend reading it en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozyorsk,_Chelyabin.. "the doctor doesn't become the janitor in communism" - no, you're right! The doctor remains a doctor, at threat of gunpoint! If he runs away they kill his family! Thanks for correcting me! "I'm sure it's better to let greedy fucks who only care about themselves drive society" - see here is really what's at the heart of capitalism vs communism. Capitalists acknowledge that they will be rewarded if they can get into a position of power. Communists refuse to acknowledge that greed is a human trait. (Sure, altruism is too, that's why charity and welfare exist in capitalist societies). Have you ever heard of Kim, by any chance? Not the Kardashian who made a fortune by supplying drama in a low-supply, high demand format. The Korean leader, Kim. And his father. Who are they, you ask? I'm sure you've never thought "they must know how many people they could help if they just handed the regime over." I'm sure you've never thought about why our great communist leader is so greedy, only thinking about his own life. Why must he stand in the way of korean people's salvation? He is forced by evil America to execute many traitors, to spend the budget on military instead of food or electricity. Why is he so greedy as to hold on to power when he could save people? All he has to do is accept that he will likely be convicted of crimes against humanity and be executed along with his family. How hard is it not to be greedy? Give it a break, man. Greed is the way of the world - but it's not the only driving force.
2019-07-07 05:44
"OK so let's see... "No system works without violence" - I'll concede that we need police to keep order, but I won't concede that we need violence to keep order. We will lock you up if you don't pay taxes, but we won't lock you up for paying zero tax on zero income. You should not have to say "every other system", I'll remind you that my position is one of regulated capitalism with some essential services provided by the state. I cannot and will not justify EVERY system as better than communism - and I will laugh if you claim that as a victory." Locking some one up is still violence. ""the doctor doesn't become the janitor in communism" - no, you're right! The doctor remains a doctor, at threat of gunpoint! If he runs away they kill his family! Thanks for correcting me!" What are you even talking about? Look at my flair and then stop talking about what some socialist country in the 20th century did. I'm not a Marxist Leninist, I really don't like the USSR or China or what ever. "Communists refuse to acknowledge that greed is a human trait. " Human beings have worked together for ever because they knew it benefits them. We literally made it rewarding to just care about yourself with the system we live in. "Have you ever heard of Kim, by any chance? Not the Kardashian who made a fortune by supplying drama in a low-supply, high demand format. The Korean leader, Kim. And his father. Who are they, you ask? I'm sure you've never thought "they must know how many people they could help if they just handed the regime over." I'm sure you've never thought about why our great communist leader is so greedy, only thinking about his own life. Why must he stand in the way of korean people's salvation? He is forced by evil America to execute many traitors, to spend the budget on military instead of food or electricity. Why is he so greedy as to hold on to power when he could save people? All he has to do is accept that he will likely be convicted of crimes against humanity and be executed along with his family. How hard is it not to be greedy? " Again what in the fucking world are you talking about? I don't think I've ever said a good thing about North Korea and Kim definitely isn't a communist leader lol. Juche might be a continuation of Marxism(-Leninism) but it has no connection to the struggle for liberation of the working class nor has it communism as a goal. It's literally just a dictatorship that only exists to enrich the Kims. And again, look at my flair.
2019-07-07 05:52
#64
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Oceania Rusuli 
Your first point doesn't contradict mine, so re-read. I agree that locking up someone is violence.
2019-07-07 05:52
good, then we agree that every system relies on the use of violence to stay alive. the only difference is who is allowed to use violence and who the violence is used against. In the system we currently live in the state is allowed to use force on its population but the population isn't allowed to use violence on its state. sounds fair.
2019-07-07 05:53
#70
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Oceania Rusuli 
No, we don't. Re-read.
2019-07-07 05:54
you're right. You just said that the current system also uses violence.
2019-07-07 05:56
#73
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Oceania Rusuli 
No, I didn't.
2019-07-07 05:57
Yes you did. "We will lock you up if you don't pay taxes, " "I agree that locking up someone is violence." If the current system locks people up for not sticking to its rules, and locking someone up is violence then yes the current system is violent.
2019-07-07 05:58
#88
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Oceania Rusuli 
"We will not lock you up if you pay zero taxes on zero income" i.e. you can choose to not contribute to a trading economy, and you can live your life in peace on private property in self-sustinance, even with a commune if you choose.
2019-07-07 06:01
Okay so? You still admitted that the system will lock people up and since you also admitted that locking someone up is violence you basically admitted that the system is violent. The system doesn't stop being violent just because you're allowed to do some stuff without getting locked up lol.
2019-07-07 06:02
#94
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Oceania Rusuli 
I admitted that we need police to keep order in any society. I also showed there is a clear way to avoid being locked up for not making your contribution to society. It's simple math, really. If you take something from someone (use gov services), then you owe something in return (tax). If you don't take then you don't have to give. The system can USE violence to enforce reasonable exchange, it cannot use violence to FORCE you to exchange.
2019-07-07 06:06
so basically how a communist/anarchist society would function? you make bread and give it to the society and the society gives you all the other stuff that you need. You can decide to keep all the bread for you but then society won't give you anything either.
2019-07-07 06:07
#98
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Oceania Rusuli 
You're starting to understand. Congratulations! Now, how do we decide how much milk that a loaf of bread is worth? What if we decide by weight? Will the baker put lead in his bread to make it heavier? (see 16th century England). You'd hope not, but how can you guarantee it? Because you certainly won't have anyone educating people on chemical analysis or effects, or maintaining the machines necessary for easy analysis. The reason for that is these people would have to dedicate their life to those pursuits - and they have NOTHING TANGIBLE to exchange with the common farmer so they can get their milk! Do you see now? An anarcho-communist society doesn't allow us to have tech beyond the industrial age, which means half of all kids die within 4 years, and the average life is riddled with injury and hardships. There is a certain charm to that simple life, and it REALLY appeals to me, but even then I can't reasonably justify it. Especially if society doesn't want to go back to the stone age.
2019-07-07 06:14
sorry to tell you but that's not how a communist society works. You don't trade something 1:1. You give to society what you can give and society gives to you what it can give to you. "from each according to his ability to each according to his need"
2019-07-07 06:16
#101
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Oceania Rusuli 
Exactly. From each according to his diminished ability, to each according to his unsatiated need.
2019-07-07 06:18
great point, really.
2019-07-07 06:18
#104
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Oceania Rusuli 
it is, isn't it. You can't possibly say that there'd be consequences of a shortage, because pravda doesn't publish shortages.
2019-07-07 06:19
what? The consequence of a shortage would be that there is a shortage. Society will realize that there's a shortage of milk, you don't need a market to see that.
2019-07-07 06:20
#107
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Oceania Rusuli 
Yes, and everyone will take proportionally less, I'm sure. You are really very trusting given I could be your neighbour in this society, and you seem to think my greed is somehow dangerous. I can see why if you're so trusting.
2019-07-07 06:21
#100
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Oceania Rusuli 
Maybe I haven't given enough info on WHY the baker would need a worth of milk for his bread. It' s because of population size. Say he has 20 kids and needs 10 litres of milk a week - but the milkman can only produce 15 litres a week, and needs to keep five. Already if anyone else wants milk, then there's a problem. The only reason someone else would start selling milk is if it had a value.
2019-07-07 06:17
You still don't understand. You don't sell in a communist society. That's not how distribution of goods workers in communism.
2019-07-07 06:19
#106
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Oceania Rusuli 
You don't need to "sell". You need to exchange. And as I tried to tell you above, you need to determine what each person's "need" IS. And when you cannot fulfill EVERYONE's need, then who do you prioritise?
2019-07-07 06:20
Depends on what it is and how much there is. Communes will find a way to distribute it in the best way if there's a shortage. But I think it's pretty easy who will be prioritised. A lumber jack will need more food than a hair dresser. So who will get more food? The lumber jack probably.
2019-07-07 06:22
#110
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Oceania Rusuli 
EXACTLY, it depends on how much there is and how much people want it. You could say that's SUPPLY and DEMAND, and if the first person to come get their ration takes the lot, who are you to argue? It's HIS need, you HAVE to satiate HIS need if you want to be a good communist!
2019-07-07 06:23
"It's HIS need, you HAVE to satiate HIS need if you want to be a good communist!" I don't have to do anything. The goal is to satiate the need of everybody not just one lol. A commune will find a way to deal with people that take everything for themselves. And if needed such person will be excluded from the commune.
2019-07-07 06:27
#113
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Oceania Rusuli 
And when everybody's hungry and desperate and jealous and greedy and disincentivised to provide for their USELESS neighbour, I'm sure it will all hold together. The natural consequence of anarchy is government. The natural consequence of communism is black market capitalism.
2019-07-07 06:29
No? If they exclude somebody from the commune the commune won't have to provide for them. That's literally the point of it.
2019-07-07 06:31
#115
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Oceania Rusuli 
And when we exclude everyone from the communism, we have finally achieved true communism. Trust me more! Trust your fellow man!
2019-07-07 06:32
ok
2019-07-07 06:33
#68
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Oceania Rusuli 
"Kim definitely isn't a communist leader" - and once again, you lost yourself. I don't think we need to have the "not real communism" argument again.
2019-07-07 05:54
"I don't think we need to have the "not real communism" argument again." "In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6]" Doesn't really sound like North Korea to me.
2019-07-07 05:57
#78
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Oceania Rusuli 
HAHAHAHAHA Yes, that's the argument which we don't need to have. I am well aware of the gap between the stated aims of communism and its invariable outcomes. I am also well aware of your misinterpretation of the causes of such a difference.
2019-07-07 05:59
Are you aware of the differences between marixsm leninism and communism? Communism has a definition, you can't just change it so it fits your opinion
2019-07-07 05:59
#72
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Oceania Rusuli 
"I'm not a Marxist Leninist" - yeah, you're a REAL Marxist aren't you! One of those who promises to remove the upper class so the proletariat can rise. Great idea! I'm sure they won't establish a new upper class just like the Marxist Leninists did! Or maybe you think "cultural marxist" means something different. You ARE aware it's an insult, right?
2019-07-07 05:56
look. at. my. flair.
2019-07-07 05:58
#83
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Oceania Rusuli 
I'm sure that rising proletariat won't implement any sort of control to stop the greedy capitalists from seeling their excess milk for some bread! How DARE they try to not get scammed by implementing some method of fair exchange!
2019-07-07 06:00
i dont see what that does have to do with my flair but good one
2019-07-07 06:00
#89
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Oceania Rusuli 
HAHHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA This is literally hilarious. Anarchists unite!
2019-07-07 06:02
k
2019-07-07 06:04
#61
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Oceania Rusuli 
double-posted accidentally
2019-07-07 05:45
"you cannot find a system that will provide a similar standard of living without using capitalism" If you believe this, you are already part of the problem. People that wish to keep a similar standard of living despite those standards already causing the doom of our planet and specy will bury all of us.
2019-07-07 15:03
#181
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Oceania Rusuli 
Please do explain how you plan to stop future generations having an impact on the planet. I'm sure your plans aren't inherently genocidal or anything... I'm sure you're advocating a perfectly reasonable revolution which can cater for at least half of the world's current population... you wouldn't just kill unprecedented amounts of innocents for the sake of sustainability... would you? I'd love to hear more...
2019-07-07 17:39
I study in the agro-alimentary field so surely I know the subject better than you ? It's actually the other way around : it is the current system that might lead to mass starvation of hundreds millions of people in the next decades. Ever heard of limited ressources ? Climate change ? Soil erosion ? Desertification ? Mass extinction ? Water shortage ? Phosphorus depletion (main ingredient in modern fertilizers) ? I could continue all day like this.
2019-07-07 20:20
#194
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Oceania Rusuli 
I know for a fact that the struggles we might face in "Desertification, Water shortage. Phosphorus depletion" are going to be relatively easily resolved. Non-issues. We have easily available substitutes, and nobody will stand in the way of human life and block substitution. As for soil erosion, that's a bit of a ridiculous thing to worry about don't you think? What phenomenon could possibly accelerate erosion to such a level that it's catastrophic? As for climate change, you're clearly a fanatic who is very convinced of their point of view. All I can say to you is that the reason the doomsayers haven't convinced me is obvious: They predicted that New York would be underwater by now, that the temperature would have risen by 3-5 degrees (It rose 0.5 in the time period in question), Al Gore's hockeystick graph didn't happen in the way it was suggested, carbon in the atmosphere seems to FOLLOW a temperature increase rather than causing it. In the 70s they were calling it "global cooling". I'm all for polluting less, I'm just going to need a lot more evidence to get on board the radical climate lobby. They've been saying we have 12 years to live for 50 years now.
2019-07-08 02:58
Blah blah blah. I don't trust science, blah blah blah. I don't even know what soil erosion is and still talk about it. Blah blah blah. Ok dude, what do you want me to say ? If you don't trust energy engineers, climate scientists, agronomists from dozens of countries, then you won't trust me anyway. It is basically 95% of scientists vs a few liberal think-thanks paid to be biaised. You chosed your side because you don't want your perfect bubble to burst and I'm fine with that. Plenty of people are burying their heads in the sand. There are plenty of sources availaible and debunking videos of the "said climate debunks" on internet, with studies and facts linked. I don't trust any media or shitty org like Green Peace either, that's why I take the time to read scientific papers and experts panel like the IPCC. You don't believe it because you don't want to. I'm not going to waste 5h to explain every problems. Because yes. The problems are plural. I don't even care about climate, it is the only issue I'm not sure about but still a factor. There are many stats that bother way more, starting with feeding people (which is my field) while keeping the environment sustainable enough to feed them in the next decades. You tell to a guy that wants to dedicate his life to feeding people that he wants starvation and genocide, are you nuts ? I don't want to diminush standards of living because I'm an "eco fanatic", when in fact I'm right leaning and never frequented any eco circles. I believe in diminushing our standards because the toll to be paid later might be 10x times higher if we don't change any habits. You are a believer that think the ALMIGHTY FREE MARKET will solve any problem by miracle and that we will always find new ressources as substitutes to the ones we depleted. Because there are infinite substitutes on earth right, and we will be able to recycle all the deteriorated particules scattered accros the earth and in the waters. Exploiting every ressources to the last drop also totally won't fucked up our ecosystems too, even though we already lost 75% of the flying insects and 30% of the birds in Europe (which are together responsible for the majority of plant pollination) and that the lombrics biomass of cultivated soils was divised by 50 (2,5t to 50kg) thanks to monoculture. Lombrics being the most important part of soil regeneration and erosion prevention. Soil erosion, btw, is not about the fucking wind or sun scrapping the earth like the mountains. It is the rapid and inevitable depletion of the soil biomass and nutriments when you are undertaking intensive culture with improper "cheating" manners like we said in my field, because we are adding extern sources to mimic the old balance but in reality it is not even close to the same and the negative externalities are costly. It is the reason we have to use so many chemicals and fertilizers and on long run you loose a lot of efficiency which will be very problematic if the global population keep growing like it is projected.
2019-07-08 04:04
#200
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Oceania Rusuli 
I have stated multiple times that I am not a supporter of an unregulated free market. You've misunderstood me and now you're reigning in your rhetoric with each reply. "Soil erosion, btw, is not about the fucking wind or sun scrapping the earth like the mountains. It is the rapid and inevitable depletion of the soil biomass and nutriments when you are undertaking intensive culture with improper "cheating" manners" If you had used the term 'nutrient depletion' or 'degradation' rather than 'erosion', you would've been understood. It's not a problem we have in the first world but I agree that many countries have a lot to learn on soil maintenance, and it's your job/ will be your job to worry about that. I have confidence that you will sort it out. You know what? It's clear that you didn't read both my replies before making your comment here, so there's no point saying shit I've already said. All your shit about the soil quality and biodiversity, I'm sure you'll sort it out. I'm not saying we don't need to be concerned, I am saying the average person doesn't need to worry about it. You have it under control.
2019-07-08 04:50
I'm not sure the scientists will solve anything if nobody listen to them, politics and companies alike. The general public is accomplice of the crime and has a role to play. If we can't do it through politic (because you know very well that it is locked by lobbies and internation finance), then you need to aim at their wallets but boycott movements are fair to be sufficient so far. Not my fault if the expression used is soil erosion btw, I didn't invented it.
2019-07-08 05:21
I don't want to control natality or provoke genocide. It is the contrary: I want to be able to feed decently the most people possible by changing some habits to adapt to new rules. Why are you so paranoid and believe it is about destroying liberties ? You have the liberty not to use trash bags and spill trashes all over your house floor, but you prefer to use bags because it is more convenient and healthy. To me it is the same: I'm not here to force people but inform them. Some minor changes can have big impacts for minimal costs. Don't you care about terrible things like antibiotic resistance already killing thousands people and probably millions in the upcoming decades ? Or the problematic with all pesticide and cancerous chemicals you are ingesting ? Not even talking about nutrition issues like obesity or limited brain development because of lower quality food. I dont plan to lobotomize anybody. Free will is the core of human life. There are already plenty of people here in France interested in my field and even more listening to what we said. We don't force anyone, but once people understand it will only improve their life quality they are naturally interested so we don't need to. I also want to improve the life of French farmers who have the highest suicide rate of any profession because of unfair competition and the shit they have to do to the earth to survive. Yes, unfair competition because the biggest firms don't have to pay the real externalities of their actions, thus can increase productivity and sell overpriced products that are worth that much only because the consumers are not informed and there are no fair regulations. I mean, just imagine you found a new way to make cheaper t-shirts but the used process also make the cloth toxic and dangerous to human life, still you don't have to tell it to the consumers or pay any taxes to make it fair ? It is exactly what's happening with our food production, and it's concerning even from a free market/capitalistic point of view. You have farmers that produce objectively better products (price/quality ratio), yet are not competitive only because big firms are allowed (ty Bayer-Monsanto lobbyies) to use unfair tactics local farmers morally can't resort to... because like me and you, they value human life over anything. Or they finally give up to survive, then kill themselves because of guilt. Their suicide rate had tripled in the year of 2016 only... If wanting to help people living better and longer is being "fanatic" then fuck it I am. I am a fanatic of life.
2019-07-08 04:32
#201
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Oceania Rusuli 
Your entire reply here, while well thought out, is basically aimed at someone other than me. You and I have many of the same aims. You and I have common enemies in the global economy. However, you came into a conversation between myself and communists, and you told me that we need to all be worse off for the sake of the planet. A completely unprecedented and radical position. So you can concern yourself with the degradation of nature and sustainability of food resources. I'll concern myself with the continuation of fair pay for fair work, the rewarding of effort, and the future of humanity. Assuming you're not fakeflag, have a look around Paris, maybe St Denis neighbourhood, and then look at historical photos of same areas. Does your country have some serious changes to make to ensure it still exists? I think so. Sorry for changing the topic on you - you've jumped around all over the place listing various concerns without actually stating what you're talking to me about. You explain that you're worried about sustainability, but you don't explain how you've thought through what we're going to do and how it's going to end up with a better life for the vast majority involved. You came into a conversation of politics against a conservative and by proxy with a communist, with an idealist argument of a sustainable future. You've proven at least that you're rational and have people's best interests at heart - maybe the rhetoric needs some evolution, but I'm happy to call it there.
2019-07-08 05:02
If you are talking about immigration, it is another problem that I won't fix since it is not my field but living close to shitty neighbourhoods with massive immigration background, I know about it. It is one of the reason I can't stand progressist and hippie nutjobs, which are seriously irrational and always chose emotions over facts. They are not so numerous among the scientific community, the real issue is that the general public prefer to listen to social medias and NGO retards instead of actual experts. They are full of superstitions, like the anti-nuclear gang that want to replace the best, clean energy available for trash inconsistent renewables (looking at you Germany lul). But they are also some nutjobs on the opposite side, hence why I don't trust any politician anymore. Which is to be expected from an Anarcho-libertarian. Fuck the "representatives" representing nobody but themselves. The people need to do it their own way and become as independant as possible.
2019-07-08 05:32
I don't have magic solution, I work among thousands of people more experienced and competent than me. Imo the first goal is decentralization. Take back the local powers, drain the cities and people the country-side again. Stop being assisted sheeps and learn to love and work with the land of your ancestors by diminishing your energy consumption and producing some of your food yourself. Create new short economic circuits, which is not that hard with the current communication techs. Why do we need shitty companies to sell us shit products again ? Why do we need advertisers and giant retailers ? Why do we need medias and politics ? Force direct democracy to become the norm, peacefully or not. Drain the swamp, hunt the rats down. Then make some public audits to decide what to do, understand where tax money goes and what we can cut. You were talking about immigrants: 75% of the French people are against immigration, according to recent polls. France is threatened because we are in some passive dictature under democratic cover where a few dozens people are ruling against the mob. Just look at the Gilets Jaunes: 12 killed, 4 190 wounded and 9 000 arrested. Also sorry to say, but our global elite is very much liberal-capitalist and is trying to smother us. I don't think any ideology can save us: only God or ourselves. I'm sure many rich people know about how fucked we are, know very well that huge chunks of the global pop will die in the future but don't care because they have the short-term profit and everything they need to survive after the earthquake. We are getting replaced by machines and IA anyway, the living cattle is starting to become too costly to maintain. They might just wait on their boats while we are cannibalizing each other (both in the literal and figurative senses).
2019-07-08 05:51
#208
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Oceania Rusuli 
I agree with much of what you're saying. The difference would be that I want to try the peaceful way, to change the system from within - the Anglo way. You want the French way, and I guess I can't fault you for that.
2019-07-08 06:08
Surely not. Because brainwashed NPCs like you prefer to listen to politics, medias or lobbyists telling them their sweet, naive dream of infinite growth will continue, instead of listening to actual scientists. 40% of food producted is wasted every year in the Western world, but OF COURSE to stop eating 5x hamburgers a week would lead to mass starvation, because your fat ass won't support it ? Just keep doing what other idiots like you are doing: working like a slave and consuming for a few dozens of ultrarich people who makes you think you NEED it and who won't suffer the consequences of their short-sighted system anyway. But please don't open your mouth on subjects you clearly don't know ANYTHING about. EDIT: btw don't even try to call me leftist, socialist, liberal or hippie because I'm neither of those. I simply have a brain and enough scientific studies in my field to face the facts.
2019-07-07 20:38
#197
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Oceania Rusuli 
I am strongly against continual growth. I don't have any lobbyists breathing down my throat (except perhaps the gun lobby, and I'm pretty happy with that nowdays). You've been served an answer, so you can reply there. Of course I'll give you the correct amount of time to respond according to your timezone, instead of waiting under 20 minutes in the middle of the night and then disparaging you. I'm not a consumerist, I consume only when I must and when I know it will bring me happiness. You talk about food being wasted, and you replied to me to say "we don't need caplitalism" and then said "don't talk about things you don't know, I'm QUALIFIED and you aren't". Well I suppose that means here's where I tell you I'm an economist and you're not qualfied to know what you're talking about! I'd still love to hear what the fuck you think we can do to stop people impacting the planet. I'm awaiting your mass lobotomy of the human population.
2019-07-08 03:08
Capitalism has its downsides for sure. Same goes for socialism. We need a mix here. You get free healthcare and education for everyone, but get your ass to work, because otherwise you will still live in poverty. That should be the message.
2019-07-07 04:44
'' free healthcare '' is not free and it decreases the quality of healthcare, in the US your chances of surviving diseases are so much higher if you've got good healthcare or have the money to pay for it. I agree capitalism has one big downside, socialism has more. Don't make education free but make it a low or zero interest loan system; making it free is going to create the eternal student ( like it did in the Netherlands ) Downside of capitalism is predatory pricing.
2019-07-07 04:47
#44
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Oceania Rusuli 
And we can legislate to stop predatory pricing, there are many tactics. We don't need to just have the free market and no restrictions. What the hardcore socialists always miss is that there becomes no incentive to do a difficult job if the rewards are the same as for an easy job. Always remind them of that.
2019-07-07 04:52
Die hard socialists are people that don't know how money works and how to manage it. If you give everyone 3000 a month and you take EVERYONES property right now. ( So everyone starts at 0 ) I'm pretty sure capitalists and right wingers would still end up in the 1% because the socialists would spend it on stupid shit. You can become a millionaire on minimum wage (unless you move to an area where rent is insane- LA for example )
2019-07-07 04:54
#49
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Oceania Rusuli 
Exactly. Communism brings everyone to the lowest common denominator, and then it becomes a game of "who is corrupt enough to succeed on the capitalist black market".
2019-07-07 04:58
#118
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Germany nobodyCS 
Working for money is not congenital, but economically and culturally conditioned. I’d like to be treated by a doctor who treats me because he wants to be a doctor - just like you hopefully will or already work the job you receive the most pleasure from, who enjoys his job and lives for saving others. Not by someone who was/ forced himself through university to work a better paid job, prescribing you some extra medicine here and there, who is less alert and thorough, as he’s all about the amount of patients he can get through every day. How about you?
2019-07-07 06:37
#180
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Oceania Rusuli 
I'd like it to be possible for society to have the number of doctors it needs, ABOVE other concerns of the people involved. There's only two ways to achieve that: One is forcing them to, which doesn't work as well and which I would rather avoid. The other way is to incentivise people to become doctors by making it a highly paid profession. There is no other way to ensure that supply meets demand. What people may "feel" or "want" is irrelevant in the face of dire need - a fact which I hope you never have to learn firsthand.
2019-07-07 17:33
#213
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Germany nobodyCS 
who says not enough people would want to be doctors
2019-07-08 06:25
#216
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Oceania Rusuli 
WHo says they would? That's the whole damn point of what I'm saying. If you can't offer incentive to become "x" then "x" will have a seemingly random number of applicants, and you can't control for it regardless of what the society needs. Stop baiting ffs
2019-07-08 08:00
#217
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Germany nobodyCS 
> If you can't offer incentive to become "x" then "x" will have a seemingly random number of applicants > call me a baiter I’m out of words
2019-07-08 08:49
#220
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Oceania Rusuli 
lmao dude get a proper education
2019-07-08 09:14
#47
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Germany has free education since ever. it is the only reason why Germany can stay alive vs nation like China. Sometimes the society has to invest more money than they get back but have overall an advantage out of it. This is why public poverty has at some points a huge advantage over private poverty.
2019-07-07 04:57
Primary education should be free - college/uni shouldn't be free; it should be low interest loans otherwise there's no reason for you to work harder: if you have to do a year over it's ok because it doesn't cost you anything
2019-07-07 05:00
#54
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
We got people like Einstein or Kant cuz education is free. The thing behind it is that you can express your mind and make evolution. Something people like Kant, Gauß or Einstein delivered. It changed college etc is still free but you have to work for your income during that time except for the main years. At this time you can get money from the Government if your parents haven't enough money. But you could study for 10 years if you want to.
2019-07-07 05:04
#53
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United States Slyckz 
capitalism number 1 cry is free
2019-07-07 05:04
no
2019-07-07 05:07
#131
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United States Slyckz 
#53
2019-07-07 08:39
What you say about 14 year olds, tell me now.
2019-07-07 05:27
Is there something wrong with being 14?
2019-07-07 14:54
Everything is perfect about being 14 years old. Bless all the 14 year olds.
2019-07-07 15:33
#177
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
I love this man
2019-07-07 17:20
14 year old spotted. (Call me maybe...)
2019-07-07 18:11
#185
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Kyrgyzstan Anschluss 
Leave me a number daddy
2019-07-07 18:12
101522911, waiting for you sweetie!!!
2019-07-07 18:21
Ur just mad cuz you blow ur money like the drunk brit you are. Just use debit
2019-07-07 05:54
Nothing new.
2019-07-07 06:00
#93
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France 0racle 
Supply and demand. Let's just create a pill that gives you instant unlimited orgasms, watch the world go to shit and not regulate it because that would be stealing the HARD work of great entrepreneurs
2019-07-07 06:11
Companies like Amazon use AWS to subsidize their online market to keep everything cheap. They can keep running the actual web store at a loss until every mall in America is closed down, then they'll probably raise their prices. I think capitalism is a superior system, but how is that fair?
2019-07-07 06:24
+1
2019-07-07 15:18
#183
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Oceania Rusuli 
Exactly. Capitalism is definitely the right way forward - but current globalisation and financial systems simply aren't sustainable. What that means is we need regulation. Look up your president Theodore Roosevelt's Anti-Trust actions. He broke up the biggest monopoly/cartel corporations and made the economy competitive again. We need a shakeup, starting with the globalised banking sector. Then we can get back on track with local business for local jobs and community.
2019-07-07 17:46
#116
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Indonesia Exodd 
Capitalism is the way of life in our current society, it’s inescapable
2019-07-07 06:32
If everybody thought like you, we would still live in the Stone age.
2019-07-07 15:06
my girlfriend a cheat on me men((
2019-07-07 06:43
#124
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Pakistan ostraka 
she cheated on you with kohli mens
2019-07-07 06:53
wtf ((
2019-07-08 14:18
it its cancer but for others reasons: 1. overproduction, consumptionism, which lead to toxic marketing and sales 2. aim for profit - for all the cost 3. rich get richer, poor stay poor 4. entertaiment has more value then science, education, growth and improving man kind in general 5. unhealthy competition
2019-07-07 08:07
#133
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Poland AntOOr 
4 is the side effect not only of capitalism, but also of the civilizacional development, but you are right with that conclusions. IMO still pure socialism leads to communism, and this is the worst thing that can happen. It's like a living inside George Orwell book. That's why capitalism>socialism
2019-07-07 13:52
communism isn't like living in a george orwell book. Authoritarian socialism is much closer to that. Communism abolishes the state. Communism isn't authoritarian, the transitional period between communism and capitalism is.
2019-07-07 17:29
i don't why people have tendancy to bring socialism whenever there is any critism of captialism, like those 2 are the only aviable opitions in "infnity universe", black or white thinking. 0,1 that blocks the mind from thinking about alternatives and solutions, obviously communism is NOT the answer, but that DOSEN"T mean WE need settle for capitalism, becasue there is nothing better
2019-07-07 21:47
So What is?
2019-07-08 09:54
something based on global resource management, with more scientist and smart people in charge, rather than politics and crowd's pupetts however EU doesn't work well, so i don't think there is a simple answear for it
2019-07-08 10:12
+1
2019-07-07 14:51
+1
2019-07-07 15:19
"capitalism rewards innovation"
2019-07-07 08:24
Capitalism>>>>>>>>>>>>>Socialism
2019-07-07 08:37
#139
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32 
Whether true or not, it obviously doesn't belong on HLTV as it's sure to start very heated debates. This may or may not be a good thing, but you really shouldn't pay attention or be too involved this kind of thing... It'll only make your rationale evaporate into nothingness as rage takes over you, overshadowing your logic.
2019-07-07 14:56
all 1st world countries are capitalist, thats a fact whether u like it or not ass socialists. Socialism or communism never ever achieved anything and just brought more turmoil to a country. Its a failure sadly. Nothing even compares to Capitalism because it just achieves so much. You have to be smart to become rich in a capitalist country, but a dumb whiny teenager to be rich in a socialist or communist country. /closed
2019-07-07 15:00
The 1st world countries also all have great social system, except maybe the US (where standards of living are incredibly low compared to GDP).
2019-07-07 15:08
All capitalist. None socialist. Simple as that. Get fucked libtard
2019-07-07 15:10
Pure capitalism doesn't exist in 1st world countries, get over with it. I'm more conservatist that 99% of my fellow citizens but nice try. Also "libtard" doesn't mean shit, liberalism has nothing to do with the progressist snowflakes you call this way.
2019-07-07 15:25
Butthurt."its n0t tRuE capitalism" lmao my ass. Cant even get over thr fact that capitalism is the best form out there and your shitty socialism that failed everywhere wont do anything.
2019-07-07 15:45
Yes : you are so dumb and close-minded that you are indeed a pain in the ass. I'm neither "socialist" nor "libtard". The world is not binary kid, it is not either right or left. You don't have to chose between Karl Marx and Adam Smith, there are dozens of other theoreticians and compromises are allowed. Socialist states are cancerous and that's a fact. It leads to inevitable poverty and above all massive loss of liberties and authoritarianism which I can't accept since I'm more of an anarcho-libertarian type of guy. Still, capitalism also had its failures and they are some pretty successful socialist systems implemented. Nordic countries (Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Finland) are the ones with the most public servants yet also the best countries to live in. Even the US are pretty close as they are #10 in the world for percentage of public servant.
2019-07-07 15:59
lol what a brainlet, sweden "also the best countries to live in" nice muslim mass immigration and rape rate, sweden, more like swedistan what a shithole country with its liberal government that was supposed to be feminist and help women more but increased their rape rate even more lmaoooooo. capitalism is the absolute best btw, nothing better than it. :) its a fact, of course a libtard like you cant handle facts and talking with your feelings.
2019-07-08 15:59
Immigration is another subject, I was talking about economic efficiency and inequality reduction. The US is not socialist but also very affected by immigration as far as I know. People simply goes from poor countries to rich countries. And yes, Sweden got huge problems. What they did was totally braindead and will cost them a lot for decades. Same for Germany, the UK and France basically. Still, you have to take in account that the issue is mainly located in a few cities, the vast majority of Sweden is still very high 1st world standards. And the economic model is still working great, even though the uneducated and criminalized neighborhoods are a money sinkhole for socialism (and also security). I still don't understand how I could be a libtard btw. I'm nationalist, anti-immigration and libertarian. Which is litteraly the opposite of the progressist nutjobs we have in France. For you its either capitalism or socialism, ally or enemy. Pretty narrow minded. The only real enemy is the globalist oligarchy and finance which want a herd of docile, acculturated and security loving sheeps. They are the ones organizing migratory flow and planning wars fuelling migrations. I don't think believing blindly in any ideology, be it socialism or capitalism will help us. Personally I just want the government to fuck off and give back power to the masses. 75% of the French people disapprove the current immigration policy and it is the number #1 political concern according to recent polls. The issue being that our country is run by a member of the global banking cartel, the ex-Rothschild associate Macron.
2019-07-09 05:11
yada yada stfu already, cant even come up with an arguement. its simple, capitalism > anything else. :) facts buddy
2019-07-09 11:27
Lol you're retarded
2019-07-07 15:37
I hope you are baiting. Belle is actually a smart person ngl.
2019-07-07 15:02
Well obviously capitalism does not reward just for hard work, that's not what capitalism is. Capitalism works by producing goods that people will pay money for.
2019-07-07 15:05
This is the definition of any economic system... Capitalism is based on private ownership of the means of production and the money they are generating by using wage labor, meaning the workforce of other humans. Over time its goal is an evergrowing capital accumulation, thus also creating a social hierarchy based of on wealth and economic productivity.
2019-07-07 15:47
people paying money to get goods/services is base for economy, so it also is how capitalism works. As such capitalism is very beneficial and perhabs essential component to economy. Capitalism, along with nourishing economy, creating goods and services, it also creates proportional amount of more jobs and increases spending capacity of society. Way more people have jobs, people have more money and everyone have way more goods and services.
2019-07-08 09:53
#149
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Serbia Provizija 
its rly fascinating how most rightist are antiglobalist but still worship capitalisam eaven tho capitalisam is root of globalisam
2019-07-07 15:15
True. Not all rightist though, mostly the American clones that are brainwashed into thinking there is only way of doing thing. Being against immigration myself, I know very well that my main enemy is the global liberal-capitalist order whose insane predation over foreign countries is provoking chaos and misery. As Bossuet said: "God laughs at those who deplore the effects of causes they cherish."
2019-07-07 15:30
#158
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Serbia Provizija 
my opinon is that only people who have psychically problems could be totaly right or totaly left, and cant see flaw in thair ideology, also most rightist are religous people, i rly wonder if Jesus would be capitalist if he lives in this age
2019-07-07 15:37
I agree again, sadly people are getting really extreme today and the ever-growing divide is tearing society apart. The American society is the perfect example of pure insanity from both sides. I'm not religious but you're not the first one to ask this question. Believers from right and left have tried for decades to convince themselves that God or Jesus would agree with them, probably as a way to free their minds of guilt. Myself I don't believe he would have supported such madness. After all, he expelled the merchants and money changers from the Temple for a good reason: they were turning the sacred place into "a den of thieves", he said. Wealth seeking is not very christian.
2019-07-07 16:19
#192
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Serbia Provizija 
+1
2019-07-07 21:34
Lmao stupid idiot. What ism do you want then? Socialism? NO NO NO. Had it in Czechoslovakia until 1989, it was trash. People loving in a socialist country do not have to work harder, because all people make the same amount of money. There is no point in working overtime, or having 2 jobs. Look at European west vs east.
2019-07-07 16:18
There might be an alternative to all these systems we know.
2019-07-08 09:44
#173
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Netherlands MaYoristiC_ 
The freer the market, the freer the people Prove me wrong
2019-07-07 16:39
#175
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United Kingdom cacafuego 
usa fascist dictator
2019-07-07 17:15
Freedom from government doesn't entail freedom
2019-07-08 06:28
communism is actually a good concept all we need is good leaders.
2019-07-07 17:15
#182
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Netherlands MaYoristiC_ 
It's a good concept but it won't work long term
2019-07-07 17:42
mayb in future after wars and crisis and wtf not.
2019-07-07 18:50
She found a way to make money. It's not always the one that works hardest that gets rich, but the one that is the smartest, the most innovative or just someone with the right idea at the right time. Capitalism isn't perfect, but it's the best system we have
2019-07-07 18:52
Smartest and most innovative.. selling your body isnt innovative or for that matter “smart” in the sense of the word. I can’t wrap my head around the fact she started in 2015 (15 years of ages) and manage to pull so many creeps in. The world truely is a fucked place.
2019-07-08 09:51
capitalism(even it goes to full free market mode) isn't perfect, but communism/socialism isn't better at all
2019-07-08 03:01
#202
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Argentina YH!one 
Peronism >>>>>
2019-07-08 05:18
Right wing socialism with nationalism, gee I wonder if there were a word for this kind of ideology, maybe social nationalism?
2019-07-08 09:09
Right wing socialism with nationalism, gee I wonder if there were a word for this kind of ideology, maybe social nationalism?
2019-07-08 09:09
#215
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Turkey mustim 
This isn't the fault of capitalism; it is the failure of individuals within society to prioritise their wants/desires. How is it fair that sport stars are payed millions to ultimately pass an object through a designated area (football, basketball, etc.)? Humans are currently prioritising entertainment over development. The only practical solution is to somehow align entertainment with scientific development e.g. You donate to cancer research, obtain exclusive pictures of Belle Delphine, money is distributed between two parties.
2019-07-08 06:44
#229
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Denmark Gryde 
consumerism is a joke
2019-07-08 16:01
Wow ok so socialism bans flat tiddies and asses??
2019-07-08 16:02
#233
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Portugal lovessd 
if capitalism is cancer socialism & communism are death
2019-07-09 05:08
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