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Money for studying
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Finland Jodecast 
How much money do you get for studying in your country? I get around 1200euro from the government for studying (not including Housing benefits)
2019-07-09 01:24
#1
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Malaysia ez4harimaumuda 
No one gets money for studying xd
2019-07-09 01:26
#55
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Finland Jodecast 
Well some of us do
2019-07-09 01:55
lol 1200 not including house benefits? thats jus bullshit. Over half is a loan of that sum
2019-07-09 02:46
#72
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Finland Jodecast 
yes it is, so?
2019-07-09 02:48
So you dont get 1200 but 500 from which u pay tax so around 450 from government. and 700 as loan from some bank backed by the government
2019-07-09 02:53
#80
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Finland Jodecast 
The interest is none existing + the government is the guarantor (if anything bad happens) + the government pays almost half of it when you finish so and tax for people that only study is 0% so
2019-07-09 02:57
it would be stupid to not take student loans in finland, the government guaranteed loan is extremely cheap, you have plenty of time to pay it back and as someone else said already the govt pays a huge chunk of it if you finish on time it's practically free money
2019-07-09 13:29
Or then you work you lazy ass and don't have to take a loan lmao
2019-07-12 11:03
Retard
2019-07-12 11:10
whats wrong my dude?
2019-07-12 11:11
Sorry, I have tourettes
2019-07-12 11:16
Money you loan can never be free money (everything + some will have to be paid back)
2019-07-12 11:06
#2
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United States 9massiveinches 
getting money to study lmfao
2019-07-09 01:32
#4
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Finland Jodecast 
Well thats how we roll
2019-07-09 01:27
#111
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United Kingdom Dan_p666 
Look at how your country turned out lol
2019-07-09 13:39
#119
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Finland Jodecast 
what do you mean?
2019-07-09 16:45
#124
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Canada thelegend27 
you enjoy salmiak
2019-07-10 07:59
not a point for the guy #111 since Brits also eat this poo
2019-07-10 08:42
#151
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North America Techno_Lover 
yeah? Well I'm eating it too... right now.
2019-07-10 11:13
but you don't enjoy it
2019-07-10 11:26
#153
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North America Techno_Lover 
nah im actually fine with it.
2019-07-10 11:50
no, you are not
2019-07-10 11:51
#155
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North America Techno_Lover 
hmm, alright then, suit yourself ;)
2019-07-10 12:40
#157
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Canada thelegend27 
even brits hate their own national foods lol
2019-07-10 15:05
I have to pay 19k a year to study!
2019-07-09 01:26
#5
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Finland Jodecast 
Feels bad
2019-07-09 01:28
Yeah, but I don’t have a 50% personal income tax 😂😂🤡🤡
2019-07-09 01:37
#25
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Finland Jodecast 
Tbh its not that high for most of us my friend work at a sport selling shop and makes like 1800euro for doing weekends and some extra time, the government will take like 20% of that
2019-07-09 01:38
Personal Income Tax Rate in Finland is expected to be 51.60 percent by the end of this quarter, according to Trading Economics global macro models and analysts expectations 🤡🤡
2019-07-09 01:39
#30
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Finland Jodecast 
highly doubt that since its the average income tax is 30%
2019-07-09 01:41
I think that you aren’t grown man yet and don’t know !
2019-07-09 01:42
#40
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Finland Jodecast 
Well I dont think the average rate will jump from 30% to 50%, dont see that happening, way to many ways to stop that from happening
2019-07-09 01:45
Trust me the average tax % is 30
2019-07-10 09:44
remember that you have to pay taxes for everything, not just your salary.
2019-07-10 10:59
No one in this thread has had any argument besides one from authority, get owned with facts and logic 😎😎
2019-07-10 17:02
🤡🤡 not relevant
2019-07-09 01:56
Are you idiot? It’s not like that is going to be free in life, he will have to pay later for it
2019-07-09 02:22
#104
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Germany Shadyy89 
Even if you would pay 50% taxes, you would get like 20% back at the end of every year through yearly tax compensation. Don't get cocky if you don't really know the system bro
2019-07-09 11:55
???? You don’t know the system either my guy, the end point is that for his free stuff early in life he will pay significantly higher taxes later on in life so younger people can have the same benefits, if he likes high marginal tax rates and that’s how their country wants to do it, go ahead. I’m just saying those countries have become more and more against that kind of social program based system.
2019-07-09 17:55
#121
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Did you even read and understood what I was saying? Even if he would get the max percentage because he has very high income (around 50%), he would get a lot of the tax money back at the end of the year. So effectifly he will be at around 30% tax money. (Talking just about income-taxes) Im sorry if that goes against your imagination, because you would like to see us pay later on for the benefits we have and you don't. The state does not pay it's students only to make money off of them over here later, but to have educated and intelligent people living in the state.
2019-07-10 07:30
You are living in some fantasy where you are trying to deny that EU countries have higher tax rates than the US. Does the government just give away all that money and never make it back? Is it a charity? tradingeconomics.com/country-list/person.. US Tax Brackets: 10%, 12%, 22%,24%, 32%, 34%, 37% Finland Tax Brackets: 25%, 57%, 60%, 67%, 66% 65% No shit this guy is saying how he only pays about 20% in taxes, he is a student and thus falls into the lowest bracket. When he gets a job and I get a job, he will pay almost double my income tax so that people, just like him can go get paid to go to school. Nothing is free in this world you fucking idiot.
2019-07-10 07:37
#123
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Germany Shadyy89 
You just mad because you don't get it. First of all I don't know much about Finland. Secondly in Germany the MAXIMUM income tax for anyone is 45%! AND you get TAX PAYBACKS at the end of the year from the financial bureau if you hand in some taxstuff (no idea what the english word is). I won't say it again, because it seems that you are too mad about our benefits to accept this. It's not a fantasy world, it is the reality my friend. Iam not even acting like you and pretending I know your taxes better than you do because reading some shit about it online. I live in this state, I learned it in school and I live by it since over 10 years. So stop acting like you know my shit better than I do. You are the fucking idiot in here, but Iam not judging you. I accept that you are jealous, go cry on some more.
2019-07-10 07:58
Nice bro, as you admit you pay much more in taxes than I do at the same income so that your government can provide your citizens with more social benefits such as healthcare for refugees. Here in America people like to keep their money, that means we don’t get as much social programs and that is fine. The US, just like the EU also has tax paybacks and tax deductions, I got $800 dollars back last April. Glad we agree, go pay for refugee housing, I know you are upset you give 35% of your income to your government.
2019-07-10 08:10
#126
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
LOL you are so desperate :D Bringing up refugees :D Not upset at all about our tax rates
2019-07-10 08:34
#137
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Germany AutiSimple 
shouldve not argued with him in the first place. He wont understand a thing about the system here because he thinks the world revolves around him
2019-07-10 09:25
#138
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Yea I figured that out too late :/
2019-07-10 09:27
Only an argument from authority, no numbers or facts. You have higher taxes than me get over it 😎😎
2019-07-10 16:57
#163
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
you are 15yo and pay 0 taxes so I agree 😎😎😎😎
2019-07-10 18:37
Wrong!
2019-07-10 18:42
#144
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France Snabe_ 
lmao an american who talks about taxes to europeans I seen everything here
2019-07-10 09:51
You have no numbers or facts, you pay higher taxes than me get over it 😎😎😎
2019-07-10 16:58
#161
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France Snabe_ 
I dont have this type of problems i'm homeless 😎😎😎😎😎😎
2019-07-10 17:25
Its the same here, idk why americans think europeans pay like 60%+ in tax lol, everyone i know pays around 30, the ones who make alot pay 40-45%
2019-07-12 10:59
#177
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Germany Shadyy89 
They probably feel better because they think it's impossible to actually get benefits in return even if you pay the same amounts like they do.
2019-07-12 11:06
Finland has progressive taxation, so almost no one will pay 50%. And the richest earners per year pay around 35% because they are smart with taxes
2019-07-09 02:48
Our taxes is around 37% and we don’t get any good shit
2019-07-09 02:51
btw mine is about at 22% 😂😂
2019-07-09 01:40
I think you are still better of with 1200 euros a month (I assume) and 50 percent on any other income + healthcare etc than paying 19k
2019-07-09 01:41
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Portugal JA11ty 
true lmao, americans proud of their health care and their financial status loool
2019-07-09 01:42
Also, we can just study for almost free and then go onto the American Market ,If we want, with no financial burden.
2019-07-09 01:45
no. you just have 50% hidden tax you are just a retarded murican that fails to understand how your system simply fucking sucks
2019-07-09 02:34
False
2019-07-09 03:05
He's just brainwashed like much of the country, they get at us from an early age as possible, and continue to drill it in our heads at every turn.
2019-07-12 11:46
You're saying their 50% is significantly worse than our 37% (using the average from the website you provided), assuming you are in the United States? Look at what they get with their tax money compared to us, it's a fucking joke.
2019-07-12 11:44
What the OP said wasn’t even true, it’s subsidized but they don’t write you a fat check every month like he claims. Also, you have bad mentality, you are looking at the short term instead of the long term, you might pay 80k for school in America total, compare that with a 13% increase in your taxes for the rest of life. You do the math. The Nordic countries have been experiencing some of the slowest economic growth in years, leading them to elect more right wing officials to deregulate their government. Also, fun fact, because of their great “social programs” many corporate costs in Finland are extremely high, such as most cars being almost double the price of the US. So yeah, maybe for your 16 year old broke mentality you should go to Finland, one day when you get a real job and you aren’t paying over 50% of your money to the government, you’ll be thankful.
2019-07-12 17:11
Expected from NA
2019-07-09 01:40
I pay 26k a year lol
2019-07-09 01:43
lol
2019-07-09 11:50
#6
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United States Nohj_ 
dang that sounds awesome here you have to pay around 20-40k per year to study :( unless you have really good grades and manage to get a free scholarship.(my cousin did that and went to college all 4 years for free)
2019-07-09 01:30
#9
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Finland Jodecast 
Well at least you have less taxes, but tbh this gives you opportunity to do well whatever your background may be
2019-07-09 01:30
#16
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United States Nohj_ 
oh and what are the housing benefits? does like the government help you with rent or something?
2019-07-09 01:34
#19
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Finland Jodecast 
Yeah pretty much, they will pay a part of the rent if you study, like say that your rent is like 700euro, they will pay like maybe 400-300euro for housing extra
2019-07-09 01:36
what fucking schools are you looking at ahaha
2019-07-10 08:55
#139
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United States Nohj_ 
universitys around me like seton hall and montclair
2019-07-10 09:29
#141
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United States Nohj_ 
actually montclair is only 12k per month for in state.
2019-07-10 09:30
Per semester u mean right?
2019-07-12 11:07
#189
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United States Nohj_ 
yes my bad haha
2019-07-12 11:27
you can never be sure in the US I will pay about 500 € when i start studying in september But thats just for books, nothing else :)
2019-07-12 12:39
#201
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United States Nohj_ 
nice mens)))
2019-07-12 12:40
gl with ur studys mens
2019-07-12 15:48
$0
2019-07-09 01:29
There’s school in Brazil?????
2019-07-09 01:30
0/8
2019-07-09 01:34
#61
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Are you dumb?
2019-07-09 02:32
#89
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
No u
2019-07-09 04:47
LOL
2019-07-12 11:06
I would love to get paid for studying.
2019-07-09 01:30
#13
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Finland Jodecast 
there is no in france?
2019-07-09 01:31
Well, we got a sort of scholarship for the student but it depends, according to some particular criteria and not all students could benefit from it.
2019-07-09 01:46
#46
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Finland Jodecast 
rip
2019-07-09 01:45
#11
YEKINDAR | 
China lxxl 
You mean getting money for going to university?
2019-07-09 01:31
#12
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Finland Jodecast 
Well its the same for collage and for uni and so on
2019-07-09 01:31
Are you studying at the university or school?
2019-07-09 01:32
#15
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Finland Jodecast 
Its pretty much the same amount for all education so
2019-07-09 01:33
Here in Russia only some people (winners of international/high-level russian subject competitions) in the best countrie’s universities get money for studying (MSU, SPBSU, MIPT, HSE) but it’s like 15-20k rubles (235-315 dollars).
2019-07-09 01:36
#23
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Finland Jodecast 
feels bad, so the only way to get money is to work at the same time that you study?
2019-07-09 01:37
yes, and that’s a big problem, because if you study at top russian universities, there is basically no time to work, so if you were born in a poor family, but you would be a genius, it doesn’t matter, because you will not be able to live in Moscow/Saint-Petersburg without decent amount of money and government will not help you (i am not sure if 15-20k rubles is enough money to live there)
2019-07-09 01:42
#36
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Finland Jodecast 
feels bad, hope it one day will change
2019-07-09 01:42
well i forgot to notice, that if you pass your exams with 4 and 5 marks only, you get 29 dollars per month but this is just a joke
2019-07-09 01:45
I got nothing from the government
2019-07-09 01:33
At least you are neutral with your government, mine has given me no money and has arrested me for marijuana possession, I’m at a net negative with my government :(
2019-07-09 01:36
what 1200€??? How the hell?
2019-07-09 01:36
#39
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Finland 7ones 
Free 500 euros + 700 euros 0 interest government backed up loan, per month.
2019-07-09 01:43
You have to pay back the loan, It's not FREE.
2019-07-09 01:44
#51
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Finland Jodecast 
40% of the loan the government pay back if you are not an idiot and fuck up your education, rest of it is the cheapest loan that can exist
2019-07-09 01:48
#52
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Finland 7ones 
That is correct. If you graduate in optimal time + a year or two years (not that hard, but not a walkthrough either) the government clears almost 40% of your study loan.
2019-07-09 01:51
#53
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Finland Jodecast 
and you have basically a loan with no interest rate, like you wont ever get a cheaper loan in your life + you have a guarantor for the loan for free so
2019-07-09 01:53
your loan has interest 100% sure, but its is probably low
2019-07-09 02:54
#79
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Finland Jodecast 
Well its like 30euro per year for 10.000e so :DDDD
2019-07-09 02:54
if its so low you should take all the loan u can and invest in some big stable ompanies that have good dividends. It is lower than euro inflation rate in finland which is kinda weird
2019-07-09 02:59
#95
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Finland 7ones 
That is what people from better backgrounds do.
2019-07-09 11:39
its not 0 interest
2019-07-09 02:50
#27
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Finland 7ones 
In our country students also get good discount rates at most places you can imagine (for instance most of transportation is close to 50% off). Then we have these sick good restaurants at universities that sell meals for 2.60 euros. It is just not that easy to get into a University. Entry rate is like just over 10 percentage out of all the applicants.
2019-07-09 01:40
And we here in india have 0.02% entry rate out of 15,00,000 applicants after passing one of the hardest exams to crack lmao But scholarships are plenty here based on economical condition etccc
2019-07-09 06:56
#98
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Finland 7ones 
That is way too much of a salesman's exaggeration. I checked some numbers, but yeah it should be harder.
2019-07-09 11:47
Check for a exam named jee mains where nearly 1.2-1.5 million give exam every year for mere 30k(final selection in colleges) seats bro
2019-07-09 15:39
students in Ukraine usually get 26$ monthly for studying
2019-07-09 01:41
#65
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Finland Jodecast 
feels bad
2019-07-09 02:39
this is around 8-9 big mac menus
2019-07-09 16:37
thats like 3 in finland :D
2019-07-12 11:11
#35
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United States BubbleFlames 
This thread is an insult to the USA government.
2019-07-09 01:42
meeeeeeeeeen))))))))))))
2019-07-09 01:45
#49
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Finland 7ones 
But if you are born to rich family the world is yours. Unlucky that most of you aren't. Money holds power, those who are in charge there are doing so well, they won't chance the system and nor would the ordinary folks as they are kept quite uneducated.
2019-07-09 01:47
it's not hard to go to school for free here. in fact, they pay you out the ass in financial aid if you're poor and have half a brain to get decent test scores. i personally dont mind that we keep the retards out. i think it's plenty fair.
2019-07-10 08:53
just move finland 4Head
2019-07-09 11:52
#150
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North America Techno_Lover 
+1
2019-07-10 11:10
#41
kennyS | 
Portugal JA11ty 
I get 206 euros so it's not that bad, but only because i have a scholarship, not everyone has it tho
2019-07-09 01:44
#47
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Finland Jodecast 
riiip
2019-07-09 01:45
#50
Czech Republic Wer_ 
0
2019-07-09 01:48
#54
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Finland Jodecast 
so only way is to work while study?
2019-07-09 01:54
#83
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Serbia Suckleus 
thats how we roll
2019-07-09 03:01
#56
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Poland Rostek_ 
I make big money without studying. My dad has own building cleaning service (no not toilets nt).
2019-07-09 01:56
#58
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Finland Jodecast 
should I be surprised? :D
2019-07-09 02:16
#88
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
Wow u have a job in family’s company Impressive
2019-07-09 04:47
VP Toilets Co.
2019-07-09 11:53
usually its the other way around lul you pay for studying
2019-07-09 02:24
Here its "free " but i spent like 10k a year so
2019-07-09 02:33
#63
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Finland Jodecast 
feels bad
2019-07-09 02:34
#70
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Germany istheGOAT 
why?
2019-07-09 02:46
housing , bills and then personal needs
2019-07-09 02:52
We get free 300€ and can loan about 700€ and its the cheapest loan in sweden.
2019-07-09 02:44
#67
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Finland Jodecast 
similar to our
2019-07-09 02:45
0 xd unless ur gonna get something like social scholarship if ur family isnt earning enough money to help you studing but its shit money aswell
2019-07-09 02:45
#69
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Finland Jodecast 
feels bad for you
2019-07-09 02:46
bro wtf thats basically theft
2019-07-09 02:56
xd agree
2019-07-09 16:38
#84
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Iran Gagar1n 
In Iran Studying is free, but I moved to Moscow and I pay around 4000$ for every semester of Stomatology.
2019-07-09 03:03
#86
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United States messlp 
In Georgia, we get our tuition paid based on our GPA.
2019-07-09 04:05
#87
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Yugoslavia HeavySmoker 
0 ))) That’s why I am fakeflagging Ashamed of my shit hole
2019-07-09 04:46
Here in india if you belong to certain economical status or sc/st you get free education from school to graduation Fees of universities are divide according to how much money your parents earn
2019-07-09 07:00
#93
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Canada zxcvcxz 
0
2019-07-09 07:01
#94
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Kazakhstan Tarob 
-8000$
2019-07-09 07:08
#96
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
Free studies, about 120$/month from parents
2019-07-09 11:41
#97
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
700+€ if you parents can't pay for you. Otherwise % of this money. Some get 20€ in the end. 50% but Max 10k (if is higher it does not count) have you to pay back.
2019-07-09 11:43
#99
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Germany zeolikk 
I get 0€ 😎😎
2019-07-09 11:49
Only poor people get benefits
2019-07-09 11:51
#105
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Denmark Gryde 
If you’re above 18 the least you’ll get is 130€ i think
2019-07-09 12:03
you mean in university/college
2019-07-09 13:30
#108
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Sweden Nokkeri 
I get around 340€ every month (except June & July) for studying at a university.
2019-07-09 13:31
I pay in private uni, cause Im a rich bitch
2019-07-09 13:31
i get 788.85$ from my dad :)
2019-07-09 13:32
I bet you must be a very good student with very high GPA, that´s why they pay you?
2019-07-09 13:48
no, its a loan
2019-07-09 13:53
#118
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Finland Jodecast 
everyone gets it
2019-07-09 16:44
#117
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Pakistan ^NewB 
0
2019-07-09 16:39
I paid 31k GBP a year to study at Imperial College right now. If I choose to study at NUS, I have to pay around 12k SGD a year. If I study in China, I have to pay around 30k RMB a year. EZ life being an asian :D
2019-07-10 08:43
And you took like, the most expensive option out of the 3 lol
2019-07-10 08:56
#129
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Finland Emvi 
Finland is such a yikes country. Why the fuck do we get money to study. Working people paying for everyone elses choices
2019-07-10 08:44
#149
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North America Techno_Lover 
in most European countries people get money to study
2019-07-10 11:08
#156
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Finland Emvi 
Oh absolutely but I think Finland is up there with the worst ones
2019-07-10 13:41
#166
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North America Techno_Lover 
Why is that a bad thing though? Its an incentive to study. Working people will pay their bills no matter what regardless.
2019-07-11 00:50
#170
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Finland Emvi 
It creates a parasitic system, as is clear from the comments in this thread. People are enjoying it for how easy life is, not the studying. It's the study itself and the award that it should supposedly provide that needs to create the incentive to study. If studying is worth it, you should pay for it. It's silly for these things to be free, paid by everyone for a selected bunch. It's a lot better that people who want to study pay for the services they want.
2019-07-11 09:47
#171
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North America Techno_Lover 
Same thing could be said about the healthcare system, yet we don't pay for that either. Thank goodness.
2019-07-12 10:44
wth are u on about? People wouldnt study nearly as much if they had to pay for it and after a while we would have more truck drivers, plumbers, welders and car mechanics than other knowledge intensive professions? And think about how much more ppl would stick to gorvernments money with crackheads, alcoholics and other lazy fucks already taking ez moneys from KELA. I would definitely not rely on finnish peoples passion for studying when we already have a system that is being abused by the ppl i mentioned before
2019-07-12 11:43
#197
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Finland Emvi 
Yeah about people leeching off government's money from KELA I would remove all of that as well. Society needs to have a system where laziness and failure is not awarded
2019-07-12 11:49
Yes but surely u dont believe that the majority of students just study because its cheap money? They still have to pay the loan back if they take it and if they dont they would still have to work at least through summer to get some money to get through the school year with rent and basic human needs. if the pay was double the amount it is now i would agree with u but rn its alright.
2019-07-12 11:50
$1600 per normal semester. $700 per summer semester. plus 2 part time jobs... plus online job with mturk... ez life((
2019-07-10 08:50
#132
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Poland FitPolak 
You mean scholarship? It starts from 50 to 250 euro in most cases
2019-07-10 08:54
I wish I get money for studying, but I'm in a 3rd world country so...
2019-07-10 08:54
but is he telling the truth ?
2019-07-11 00:53
I got about £4K per year for a loan which is the minimum amount in the UK. It’s based on your parents income so if they earn >60k you get 4K if they earn <21 I think you get around 10 grand.
2019-07-10 08:59
#140
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Vietnam olaolakaka 
1k a month xd
2019-07-10 09:30
i get 600 a month, but when im done i Need to pay half of it back... but i have like 20 years time for that so no biggie
2019-07-10 09:39
250€ just becuase i did an exceptional job in exams and was one of the top 100 among the 1 million students. Others usually get one third of mine unless their parents have good amount of income. Yes i am one of the top100 of students in my age, studying cs in one of the best universities of my country and baiting/trolling hltv.
2019-07-10 10:46
#146
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North America Techno_Lover 
over here in Norway, you get about €900 euro per month.
2019-07-10 10:47
Around 740€ before taxes
2019-07-10 11:03
0 + i have to pay dorm rent :(
2019-07-10 17:29
0 xd
2019-07-10 18:38
my god, i know 1st world is very different from 3rd but receiving money to study this shis is another level holy fuck
2019-07-11 00:52
C O M M U N I S M
2019-07-11 00:54
lol i just saw that i already posted in here
2019-07-12 10:59
got 2.4k€ this semester, got more on the paper, but this is what I recieved. They included the tuition fee in the official document, the fee is like 1k or something.
2019-07-12 10:54
If I get REALLY good grades, I get around 90 euros per month and 0 for holiday :(
2019-07-12 11:03
Are you a highschooler or college/uni student?
2019-07-12 11:29
highschooler
2019-07-12 11:31
#181
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Italy Fil0Nerd 
only in northern country happens that
2019-07-12 11:07
#184
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Russia xyperstone 
1600 dollars i will pay for 1 year study training takes 4 years in Russia.Totaly for 4 years i'm pay 6400 dollars. P.S I'm from syberia
2019-07-12 11:13
#186
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Denmark ram0 
atm i dont get money, but when i start studying ill get around 1k per month
2019-07-12 11:14
i get solid 35€/month for studying +92€/month disability support also from mr Kela
2019-07-12 11:15
If you're a highschooler , a merit-based(good grades in school , olympiads/competitions prizes/placings are in the performance scholarship which is slightly higher) scholarship can reach 200€ here per year in Bucharest in the 1st and 2nd district in state schools , however , in the other districts it barely reaches 80-100€ and in the rural parts it's almost extinct , poverty is still worrying in our country.
2019-07-12 11:28
Free education
2019-07-12 11:36
I get £0 every month cause I'd rather not have to be in debt for the next 20 years once I graduate, besides I can make enough money to support myself so I have no need.
2019-07-12 11:39
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