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teams to DISBAND
World Raphe 
list of teams that should already disband and try something new, instead of stagnation and shame: 1. Faze 2. Mibr 3. NIP 4. mouse 5. Navi 6. fnatic
2019-07-12 06:03
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shox | 
United States finedenim 
So if you're not winning every tournament you should disband, sure.
2019-07-12 06:04
#3
World Raphe 
they haven't won tournament for years WTF???
2019-07-12 06:05
#4
shox | 
United States finedenim 
For years? I don't even want to correct you, Mr. fan of Bell Delphine
2019-07-12 06:05
#9
World Raphe 
who?
2019-07-12 06:08
#90
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Brazil Citieska 
+1
2019-07-12 10:38
+1
2019-07-12 21:57
They've all won tournaments in the past two years
2019-07-12 08:17
tier 5 chiana cup
2019-07-12 08:18
#95
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Brazil pokachuja 
hltv.org/stats/teams/events/4608/Natus%2.. sure navi should be disbanned.
2019-07-12 10:45
#149
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Finland Jodecast 
they have the best player in the world and cant almost never win anything
2019-07-13 13:19
theres answer in your question. Yes they have best player in the world but not best team in the world in order to win everything.
2019-07-14 23:09
#168
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Finland Jodecast 
If you have the best player in the world you should win everything, navi as an org has been wasting s1mple time with keeping bots on the team Guess what would happen if s1mple performance would drop (which will inevitably happen some day) , navi would be out of the top10 if they continue the way they handle players
2019-07-14 23:29
nope with boombla they are looking good and i think they can be one of the best teams in the world. And if S1MPLE wont like NAVI he will join any other ORG for sure.
2019-07-15 12:58
Faze won 2 tournament this year (blast and e league) so stfu
2019-07-12 08:26
blast = fluke eleague INVITATIONAL-were best team there anyways
2019-07-12 09:25
Joke srsly (astralis liq mibr are joke for u) ur life is a joke. 250 k tournament is a joke. Blast is not joke just because of 1 team u make that tounament a joke.
2019-07-12 09:35
#163
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United States SilveryoHD 
blast is a joke and eleague had like 4 teams
2019-07-14 23:13
Ok stupid americans
2019-07-15 09:01
#144
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Europe UhddiS 
Nt just cuz liquid got smashed there
2019-07-13 12:48
#65
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New Zealand rowdog 
fnatic and faze have both won tournaments in 2 years
2019-07-12 09:19
yeah, you can get laid sometimes randomly that does not make you an alpha male? does it?
2019-07-12 10:04
#88
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New Zealand rowdog 
You are saying these teams should disband, you do realise only one team can win a tournament? These teams are competing in a era with teams such as Liquid and Astralis are completely dominating, and yet some of the teams you suggested disbanding have won tournaments. Therefore you are a complete retard to suggested that 6 teams in the top 20 should disband
2019-07-12 10:28
lol you can deny it like VP did, but overall it just keeping the agony alive instead of looking for better opportunities
2019-07-12 10:38
#97
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New Zealand rowdog 
No I can because VP stopped winning tournaments These teams all still win (maybe not MIBR)
2019-07-12 10:51
#99
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New Zealand rowdog 
What opportunities, it would be near impossible for these teams to restructure
2019-07-12 10:52
NaVi didnt win tournaments in 2 years wtf
2019-07-12 09:28
My list of teams that should disband 1.ENCE - FLUKE SHIT WILL NEVER WIN SHIT AGAIN 2. Vitality - LUL SHIT TEAM ONLY RELY ON ZYWOO 3.MIBR - YES
2019-07-12 10:39
ence need to kick BOT ALLU BOT
2019-07-12 10:40
ENCE players needs to be kicked: 1.ALLU BOT 2.XSEVEN BOT 3. AERIAL BOT
2019-07-12 10:42
#151
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Finland Jodecast 
its funny that you call them bots but they made it to a major final, they beat astralis in a bo3 final still when they where in prime time, and they made it to the final against liquid in dallas
2019-07-13 13:20
renegades is fluke
2019-07-14 22:19
agree
2019-07-15 09:28
Mate, Na'Vi in post-Major time will change his roster again with Zeus retiring. Mouz needs more time, let'em some months... FaZe won at least a pair of T1 tournaments on this year... NiP is getting good resulta and GTR retirement is rally close. I'd put BIG (bc bad results and dissapointing playstyle plus they are literally doing nothing), maybe G2 if you don't them but now they're improving as team and the last one I'd put North, so they're not un any t1 tournament, bad results against top teams and same playstyle than a year before...
2019-07-12 22:10
agree on north, seems like they have 0 improvement overtime, g2 played well in france, will see next tournament i don't follow big cuz that's not even t1 team
2019-07-13 07:21
Yes, I put G2 bc they were playing bad and doing so much roster changes, but now they are Really playing well and they stomped GGL
2019-07-14 23:08
#16
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Brazil sinisterkid1 
average HLTV brain
2019-07-12 06:12
#71
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Netherlands Yourii 
If you lose a match you should make roster changes/disband. Thats a HLTV brain
2019-07-12 09:37
lose feels bad man
2019-07-12 10:13
Mouz are good , why are they in this list :3 ?
2019-07-12 06:04
#5
World Raphe 
numbers are random, bringing karrigan the bot it's not the winning move ;> sorry
2019-07-12 06:06
#7
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Peru TheJuan 
0/8
2019-07-12 06:07
since when are stagnant and random even closely comparable...
2019-07-12 06:26
fuk off Delusional cunt
2019-07-12 07:50
people who hate karrigan are bots in game lmao
2019-07-12 07:58
i don't hate him, why would I ? haha he did nothing wrong to me he is simply unskilled and that's the fact
2019-07-12 08:14
FaZe without Karrigan: out in groups and look shit FaZe with Karrigan: Top 4 every event FaZe without Karrigan: out in groups and look shit
2019-07-12 08:49
Men, faze have been on the tryout for igl for so long now ((
2019-07-12 08:51
Everyone loses to god ex6tenz every once in a while no matter how good you are
2019-07-13 10:10
#73
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Denmark BriTe 
Ur actually delusional Karrigan doesn’t get many kills but he sets up his whole team and makes them look fantastic (just look at ropz and woxic). So he is very very skilled, as an igl and a leader
2019-07-12 09:52
I will only change my if mouse top2 at major
2019-07-12 10:02
#81
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Denmark BriTe 
Just shows how dumb u are. Edit: and why would you disband whole roster just because u think their igl is bad? You have no idea what it means to be igl if you think karrigan is a bad igl
2019-07-12 10:06
becasue I value more facts and results than random internet cowboy's opinion ok ... nothing to add
2019-07-12 10:06
#84
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Denmark BriTe 
Okay, so the fact about mouz is that the current roster isn’t even one year old. But still they have managed to beat and compete vs the best teams in the world
2019-07-12 10:08
#105
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Australia ThePl3b_ 
Me too fam, but wait why do expect others to listen to you then? Aren't you just some stranger spitting out opinions too?
2019-07-12 11:27
no, i'm the oracle
2019-07-12 12:20
agree with all but maybe Na'vi should first try kick zeus and add some good aimer ? also NiP dont need full disband just kick bots
2019-07-12 06:06
im not saying diband .org just players
2019-07-12 06:10
zeus gonna retire after major, thats why they bought boombl4 as future igl
2019-07-12 06:46
#8
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Russia 10_15_22_9_11 
I agree with everything, not disbanding though, kicking the dead weight will be enough.
2019-07-12 06:08
#11
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United States ScanDull 
I don't think NIP needs a full disband, and NaVi is starting to look better with Boombl4 as an addition. Maybe another change or two will be good for them, but they're on the upswing. We haven't seen enough of the new Mouz lineup to know for sure, but I agree with the other three, and I'd also put BIG up here as well. They've just become such a joke, and they won't go anywhere as they currently are.
2019-07-12 06:11
BIG are fcking retards they say they want to go international by adding muslim XANTARES Then after kicking their best player nex they add another fcking german??? And the worst one aswell?? Why not just pick up some free agent english speaking good player?? Sunny/flusha/kio
2019-07-12 06:30
Sunny would have been great. They need firepower
2019-07-12 06:59
they didnt kick nex, nex has an injurj and for the time of his recovery denis will play
2019-07-12 07:48
1.nex wasn't their best player 2.they didn't kick him 3.sunny isn't free agent 4.like flusha would want to join that shit show Overall 0/8
2019-07-12 08:06
nex was nowhere near their best player
2019-07-12 12:48
#12
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United States traviticus 
4/8 b8 mouz legit just got this lineup 4 months ago
2019-07-12 06:11
bro, it's karrigan he had even more skilled players in faze and they kicked him
2019-07-12 08:27
#53
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United States traviticus 
Because of ego NiKo. He didn't believe in karrigan anymore and got him kicked. -NiKo +Ropz in that lineup and top 1
2019-07-12 08:34
#63
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
NiKo eats Ropz for breakfast. He is nothing compared to NiKo
2019-07-12 09:13
#67
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United States traviticus 
NiKo eats faze rosters for breakfast with how big his ego is
2019-07-12 09:27
#72
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
He sacrifice himself. He has been entry fragging a lot and not baiting.
2019-07-12 09:46
#76
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Denmark BriTe 
NiKo is selfish and he is not sacrificing himself. Just because he is not baiting doesn’t mean that he is sacrificing himself. Delusional FaZe fan.
2019-07-12 09:55
#83
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
how is he selfish?
2019-07-12 10:08
#85
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Denmark BriTe 
He only thinks about himself and his stats. Karrigan didn’t want the team to just be around NiKo, karrigan had other ideas. And NiKo got angry at him and got karrigan kicked
2019-07-12 10:12
#101
rain | 
New Zealand Flippee 
Ye sure, NiKo doesn't care about his stats, if he did he wouldn't be entry fragger.
2019-07-12 11:03
#146
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Europe UhddiS 
Flair checks out. Naive brain being shown right there
2019-07-13 12:51
#157
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Denmark BriTe 
Ur flair checks out too.
2019-07-14 22:18
#13
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Brazil sinisterkid1 
disband the greatest team to touch csgo? prolly your brain disbanded b4 posting it
2019-07-12 06:11
sorry but i cant see astralis over there
2019-07-12 06:12
which one are you talking about?
2019-07-12 06:19
Faze I agree with but there are rumored changes coming mibr has rumored changes coming, but yeah that core is kinda breaking up soon anyway NIP's core was only GTR and f0rest anyway and they're making changes I don't get why mouz is on here, they've been doing just fine honestly just need more practise and experience to handle choking Navi just made changes and we barely know how they'll do with boombl4 fnatic needs changes I agree on that one. Brollan and Krimz are the most consistent, twist basically does JW's job now and JW underperforms often but those two are both the up and down players. Then Xizt is not the best igl but NIP is already taking Golden back from C9 so nothing left now
2019-07-12 06:11
mouz, lmao.
2019-07-12 06:12
#17
oBo | 
Andorra TokeN1gg 
add astralis they are over
2019-07-12 06:12
xD will see after the major
2019-07-12 06:19
#19
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Portugal nakbarone 
Why don't we just add the whole top 15?
2019-07-12 06:12
because CR7 < Messi
2019-07-12 06:22
#115
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Portugal nakbarone 
newfag
2019-07-12 15:05
#22
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
Every team that's not renegades, that way renegades can be number 1
2019-07-12 06:21
not the proudest winning, but it's probably the best what you can expect in australia xD
2019-07-12 06:23
> mouse > NaVi ????
2019-07-12 06:26
#30
nex | 
Germany NexTheGod 
optic north
2019-07-12 06:53
#32
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Other Fru!ty 
mibr 4 sure
2019-07-12 07:00
LOL Na’vi is top5 maybe even top3 you dumb fuck and Mouz is atleast top6 aswell yea top3 and top6 team should disband nice brain. Faze is around top8 yes ofc they really need to disband lets disband every team from top10 dumb fuck. NIP is dead af disband only option i agree here Fnatic should kick everyone beside Krimz and maybe keep twist and Brollan and kick washed up trash Xizt and JW Mibr is as dead as NIP disband only option i agree
2019-07-12 07:32
-mouz -Navi +Optic +BIG
2019-07-12 07:36
ban MSL for sue
2019-07-12 08:16
#35
Asia ILHY 
Why not saying all teams except liquid
2019-07-12 07:47
cuz there are teams with potential and few that make some progress
2019-07-12 08:15
Mouse sport making progress slowly. All teams from tier 2 onwards should disband right
2019-07-12 15:42
0/8
2019-07-12 07:51
#39
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Ukraine R0m4nus 
MiBR and FaZe - yes Rest - no
2019-07-12 07:57
the only team that need to disband is heroic, they are literally useless to the scene, the most mediocre shits ive seen
2019-07-12 08:17
meh, I wouldn't even call that a team that's dummies, to fill the void I haven't consider team blow t1 in this list
2019-07-12 08:30
True LULW
2019-07-12 08:45
VP? XD
2019-07-12 08:28
already did ? xD, now it's time for next
2019-07-12 08:31
They did it, that just didnt help
2019-07-12 09:36
Never saw that VP disbanded
2019-07-12 09:53
1 player remain from core squad is that not disband ? and the rest also not playnig with each other anymore
2019-07-13 12:06
I mean disband is like all the players leave this orga, so for example if VP would kick all polish players and sign another
2019-07-13 12:20
well basiclly that is what they did? just another polish team
2019-07-13 12:42
I said it wrong "if VP would kick all polish players and sign another (non polish)"
2019-07-13 12:59
probably too much waste for .org in polish fanbase but they could, however that is irrelevant
2019-07-13 13:17
#54
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Russia anleet 
lul retarded thread all the teams u wish for disband made roster changes in past or this year
2019-07-12 08:37
yeah and that also did no help, another argumment to full disband
2019-07-13 12:08
#55
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Canada StiFMeiStr 
Your assumption of these teams couldn't be more wrong... Just because a team isn't finishing 1st or 2nd, doesn't mean they don't deserve to be in the competition... In world sports, only one team wins the major tournament every year. Should the rest of the teams disband as a result? The team that places last 3, 4, 5 years in a row? Then flips it around and makes the playoffs next year? Don't be ignorant. Not every team can be the pinnacle of greatness at any one time, however, all the teams you listed are contenders even still for top-end finishes. You want multi-million dollar organizations to fold their squads. And you think, by this, that is a contribution to esports in general - let alone CSGO? You couldn't have this more wrong. Besides the list of accolades listed below (which, keep in mind, does not include Semi-Finals or Play off contentions for any of the teams, of which all have made in some tourneys), we'll use Na'Vi as an example... In 2015/16, Na'Vi was a top contender in most S-Tier tournaments. In 2017, they fell off. In 2018, they bounced back and have been an active contributor towards competitiveness in the scene, since. They literally had a 1-year gap of not placing top or 2nd in any S-Tier tournament, yet were able to rekindle from their slump. Quoting the OP: "they haven't won tournament for years?" Just top-tier tournaments within the last 2 years: 1. Faze - 1st // 2018: EPICENTER 2018 - 1st // 2018: ESL One Belo Horizonte 2018 - 1st // 2018: IEM XIII - Sydney - 1st // 2017: ECS Season 4 - 1st // 2017: ELEAGUE Premier 2017 - 1st // 2017: ESL One New York 2017 - 1st // 2017: StarSeries Season 3 - 2nd // 2018: IEM XII - World Championship - 2nd // 2018: ELEAGUE Major: Boston 2018 - 2nd // 2017: ESL ProLeague Season 6 - 2nd // 2017: IEM XII - Oakland - 2nd // 2017: ECS Season 3 - 2nd // 2017: IEM XII - Sydney - 2nd // 2017: IEM XI - World Championship 2. Mibr / SK - 1st // 2018: ESL ProLeague S8 - NA - 1st // 2017: ESL ProLeague S6 - 1st // 2017: EPICENTER 2017 - 1st // 2017: ESL One Cologne 2017 - 1st // 2017: ECS Season 3 - 1st // 2017: ESL ProLeague S5 - NA - 1st // 2017: IEM XII - Sydney - 2nd // 2018: ECS Season 6 - 2nd // 2017: DreamHack Masters Las Vegas 2017 3. NIP - 1st // 2017: IEM XII - Oakland - 1st // 2017: IEM XI - Oakland - 1st // 2017: StarLadder Season 2 - 2nd // 2018: ESL ProLeague S7 - EU - 2nd // 2017: ESL ProLeague S4 - EU - 2nd // 2017: DreamHack Open Summer 2016 4. mouz: - 1st // 2019: ESL ProLeague S9 - EU - 1st // 2018: ESL One New York 2018 - 1st // 2018: ESL ProLeague S7 - EU - 1st // 2018: StarLadder Season 4 - 1st // 2017: ESG Tour Mykonos 2017 - 2nd // 2018: ESL One Belo Horizonte 2018 - 2nd // 2017: ECS Season 4 5. Navi: - 1st // 2019: StarSeries Season 7 - 1st // 2018: StarSeries Season 5 - 1st // 2018: ESL One Cologne 2018 - 2nd // 2018: ESL ProLeague S8 - EU - 2nd // 2018: FACEIT Major London 2018 - 2nd // 2018: DreamHack Masters Marseille 2018 - 2nd // 2018: StarLadder Season 4 6. fnatic - 1st // 2018: WESG 2017 - 1st // 2018: IEM XII - World Championship - 1st // 2018: ESL ProLeague S6 - EU - 2nd // 2019: IEM XIV - Sydney - 2nd // 2019: StarSeries Season 7
2019-07-12 08:42
#56
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Romania DoINeedAName 
Imaging that he placed all this teams but didnt place g2 or any NA teams. Your brain already disband , bro NA brain lul
2019-07-12 08:41
Most NA teams have already disbanded.
2019-07-12 09:05
xD they already knew what to do
2019-07-12 10:15
#108
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Slovakia TweakZz 
WHY Place G2 ? they are doing well now :. why disband ?
2019-07-12 11:35
#123
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Romania DoINeedAName 
Yeah , really well. Tier 70 is amazing for them
2019-07-12 21:57
#152
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Greece Petsos 
Sorry to dissapoint you but G2 is better than Faze now
2019-07-13 13:21
#154
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Romania DoINeedAName 
U mean Trash2? When was this team good in last 2 years? Never. This team is done , forever. Name something relevant that g2 did. Nothing , only overrated by their fans and always dissapointinf
2019-07-13 15:06
na teams disband every 3 months ;> no point i give liquid 3-5 loses in big LAN before they kick someone, french teams were playing surprisingly good recently, so I give them chance
2019-07-13 09:58
VP
2019-07-12 08:49
already done my friend :>
2019-07-13 09:58
Disband NaVi and let Zeus put together another team.
2019-07-12 09:05
MIBR will never disband, it's a brand, as long they can hold on to the top10, and just show their brand and big events, they are fine. They are Brasilians, the money they are geting is just to good to let go of... no racism intended.
2019-07-12 09:17
#75
STYKO | 
Slovakia Georgy10 
So team dont win tournament and they should disband ? You should disband your stupid brain
2019-07-12 09:55
#77
nitr0 | 
Germany Not_New 
Worst bait in a while. Please don't post this crap
2019-07-12 10:01
big is crap too btw
2019-07-12 10:38
#79
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Singapore Defqon_1 
1. No 2. Yes 3. No 4. No 5. No 6. No
2019-07-12 10:03
#96
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Lithuania Andy_2 
fnatic. FaZe. G2. North. MIBR.
2019-07-12 10:46
#98
NEO | 
Netherlands Vincenz0 
VP has to disband so I don't have to feel ashamed anymore to have their flair.
2019-07-12 10:51
#102
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Poland xBG1 
+1
2019-07-12 11:05
yep
2019-07-12 10:54
#103
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Italy Fil0Nerd 
mouse literally changed the roster, are you dumb?
2019-07-12 11:06
#104
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Australia ThePl3b_ 
list of users that should already disband and try posting something new, instead of stagnation and shame: 1. Raphe 2. Raphe 3. Raphe 4. Raphe 5. Raphe 6. Raphe
2019-07-12 11:20
why do you call god 6 times ?
2019-07-13 10:00
#136
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Australia ThePl3b_ 
You must be mistaken, I called "some random internet cowboy" who keeps spreading his mislead opinions around. ;)
2019-07-13 10:16
mouz and navi? nice bait
2019-07-12 11:32
#107
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France smooyaTop1 
virtus.noob
2019-07-12 11:34
#110
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Ireland BLAPBLAP 
0/8 kysecksdee
2019-07-12 12:27
and this, my ladies and gentleman is the biggest braindead virgin of hltv. i praise you with the 2019's trophy of completely utter shitness.
2019-07-12 12:31
#113
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
No
2019-07-12 13:10
Yes
2019-07-13 07:27
#141
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
No
2019-07-13 12:28
Fnatic/Mibr/NIP/Renegades are not working out, we can expect a lot of changes
2019-07-12 13:12
Expected from stupid idiot
2019-07-12 15:08
nt
2019-07-12 15:10
big not on the list, cuz only t1 teams
2019-07-13 07:26
nt
2019-07-13 17:52
lol stopped at fnatic
2019-07-12 15:12
With your logic all non-mercedes drivers should just quit/leave their teams in F1 because they arent winning races. 0/8
2019-07-12 15:13
bad analogy cuz f1 it's about car and driver skills, cs it's about skills - every pro has max fps ;>
2019-07-13 07:30
#121
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United States jlocash 
MiBR for sure, but FaZe honestly isn't that bad, they just don't have a proper IGL. NEO is a bot and can't call or frag. Even NiKo was calling better than that. Mouz are already #10 after just 4 months so they don't need disband. NaVi are alright, though zeus isn't the best igl, but hes retiring so don't disband. NiP and fnatic maybe but swedish cs isn't too good right now, maybe make a roster with the best players from both teams
2019-07-12 15:13
#125
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Israel QtaP 
mibr fnatic ence you
2019-07-12 21:58
Users to ban: 1. Raphe
2019-07-13 10:06
why, cuz you don't like the truth
2019-07-13 13:32
#137
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
4. mouse wtf?
2019-07-13 10:16
Navi?Mouz?
2019-07-13 12:35
navi?
2019-07-13 12:50
#150
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Stopped reading at mouse
2019-07-13 13:20
VP
2019-07-13 15:08
Disband everyone and our bright author of this thread can enjoy super exciting matches of Liquid recting tier4 teams.
2019-07-14 23:11
#162
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United States Oklahoma_ 
Fnatic needs to kick Twist and then they will be good
2019-07-14 23:12
How is G2 not at the top of this list
2019-07-14 23:14
vitality, ence, nrg
2019-07-14 23:16
#166
s1mple | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
Vitality and VP?
2019-07-14 23:17
- Faze * Mibr + NIP - mouse * Navi + fnatic
2019-07-14 23:22
#169
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Ukraine beazztov 
Why mouz and NaVi?
2019-07-14 23:32
Vitality should be disbanded after throwing to Furia, other teams don’t do that shit. (;
2019-07-14 23:39
#174
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France Snabe_ 
how much Pepelaugh
2019-07-15 12:59
fnatic just proven my point :)
2019-07-20 17:38
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