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[+18] GOD EXISTS?
ZywOo | 
Portugal 170cm_midget 
Most of the arguments i see people using when trying to prove me god exists is invoking the idea that the universe as it is is somehow too fine tuned for life as we know it or for human life for that to be a coincidence. This is a bit like a puddle saying, look at this hole I'm in, it fits me so perfectly it must have been made for me. If life as we know it did not exist, then life as we know it would not be having this conversation and talking about how perfect this environment was for us. A universe by definition has to be compatible with those who observe it or else different creatures, or no creatures, would be the ones observing it, that's the anthropic principle.
2019-07-12 22:16
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Romania AloHa98 
He doesn't. /closed
2019-07-12 22:18
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crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
prove this
2019-07-12 22:33
you should prove it exists
2019-07-12 22:57
#29
crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
it's not me who's spitting assertions here, boy please back up your claim of non-existence, do you even know that the burden of proving is totally on the asserter
2019-07-12 22:57
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crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
can u read?
2019-07-12 22:58
#14
crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
how do I can trust u?
2019-07-12 22:33
#16
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Sweden shonk 
you can't prove something that doesn't exist
2019-07-12 22:38
#19
crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
it's not me who's spitting assertions here, boy please back up your claim of non-existence, do you even know that the burden of proving is totally on the asserter
2019-07-12 22:45
#22
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Sweden shonk 
i dont understand ukranian, sorry
2019-07-12 22:50
#23
crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
togda poshel nahuy
2019-07-12 22:52
#24
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
RUUUSH BBBB CYKA BLYAT
2019-07-12 22:53
#26
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Sweden shonk 
ye, my teammates in cs call me like that as well
2019-07-12 22:56
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NiKo | 
United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
You can't prove God exists, you can't prove he doesn't. Tbh it's a bit stupid to think you know what started the universe anyways, you have to keep an open mind and accept there is no such thing as possible or realistic, that is just a perception based on our capabilities.
2019-07-12 22:19
Bacteria live inside us having no idea of humans. And we live inside a galaxy having no idea that there might be something extraordinarily bigger than us. And yes, of course we think bacteria just don't have mental faculties to understand our existence. In facts, we just might not have mental faculties to understand God's existence. I dont believe in god btw. Thoughts?
2019-07-12 22:20
You're too smart for hltv
2019-07-12 22:25
thanks lol
2019-07-12 22:26
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NiKo | 
United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
I agree, apart from that our self-awareness and development as a species, our investment into knowledge and cares beyond primal survival like the animals we know allow us to consider things such as a god, to understand we may be in the presence of something beyond us, a spirit or whatnot. I used to be a devoted Christian, i turned away somewhat because i thought logically about it in ways i shouldn't have, not only because whatever caused us to exist uses logic beyond what we consider logic but also because if god exists he is not a human entity so i shouldn't look from a personal human processing standpoint (such as people wondering why God would do X, or why he didn't do Y). I would now consider myself agnostic because we just don't know what created us, we never could. That's back to your point
2019-07-12 22:27
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Netherlands HetIsPatat 
"because if god exists he is not a human entity so i shouldn't look from a personal human processing standpoint" But he made us in his image. And stuffs. Those Egyptian firstborns had it coming anyway.
2019-07-12 22:58
Exist ^^
2019-07-12 22:19
He does. But you can't prove that. You must believe and you'll find out
2019-07-12 22:22
What year is this?
2019-07-12 22:29
2019
2019-07-12 22:30
After who?
2019-07-12 22:31
what?
2019-07-12 22:32
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Morocco royflord 
i agree with you i mean people see some stupid shit and tell you that it's impossible to be a coincidence, it fucking is especially since we know that there is a big chance that there are an infinite number of universes, if our universe wasn't like this you would simply evolve to get used to it so it will be "perfect" for you or you just wouldn't exist. Having an infinite number of universes with infinite space surely means that there is like 99.99...% chance that there is at least a planet or some shit that is suitable for us and we're living in it so yes it's a coincidence. People need to understand that the universe isn't here because of them, but they exist as a result of this universe
2019-07-12 22:38
enjoyed reading your reply, nice to know there are some smart hltv users!
2019-07-12 22:44
#21
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Morocco royflord 
thank you man
2019-07-12 22:47
#17
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Singapore LLOO 
god is created by humans not the opposite
2019-07-12 22:41
The universe is FAR from perfect for life, though Earth is or the solar system is perfect for the earth to be the way that it is. The reason earth is perfect is because of the BILLIONS of different planets in the universe there has to be at least one that is perfect, (there is more we have even found planets that are habitable for current known life form and we have barely explored anything at all. So by chance there had to be a planet thats perfect for it that life happened on. I dont belive in god but the day there is any proof I will believe in anything. if the starts align and say ( I'm here) Then there is something to it but there is no reason for me to belive in religions and books that was made in the iron age or even bronze age. Science is the new thing and has already proven many statements in religions to be wrong.
2019-07-12 22:46
I was just about to say, you have found out about adams puddle analogy and the anthropic principle and thought that you would just post them on hltv? Boy you got a whole world of secular arguments waiting for you. Anyway, I think you could have explained the puddle analogy even better by saying that the puddle fits absolutely perfectly in every single nook and cranny of the hole when obviously it adapted to the hole just like life adapted to the habitat it found itself in.
2019-07-12 22:54
#27
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Portugal Vascometro69 
The thing is if a so called God exists, he is for sure an evil person, for all the fucked up shit and injustice there is in this world
2019-07-12 22:56
#32
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Latvia Frip! 
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2019-07-12 22:58
#34
dycha | 
Nepal Aguminok 
U dumb mens its all just a simulation :))))))) soon matrix is gonna break and we all die
2019-07-12 23:13
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