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"ENCE fluke"
Boombl4 | 
United States HERCULES_THE_GREAT 
Still placed 2nd-3rd at any big event post-Katowice major excluding SSiL Season 7 when they got the team who went off to win the whole event in NaVi in merely the first round of playoffs. Stop saying this shit, ENCE was a victim of the Bo1 in Cologne and if you deny that and claim ENCE's run is a fluke, you are foolish.
2019-07-13 07:45
#1
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Denmark fnx_2_major 
+1 there was no fluke wtf
2019-07-13 07:50
#71
TenZ | 
United Kingdom sufyy9 
+1
2019-07-14 16:50
#91
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Finland Teukkasd 
+1
2019-07-15 08:58
#141
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United States Hubterbean 
I don’t think fluke I just don’t think run is overly impressive liquid choked and Navi is for real not that good and beating post prime blastralis is proving to be easy so imo solid 4 team no more no less
2019-07-15 19:57
#184
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Finland Tusku 
+1
2019-07-16 13:56
+1
2019-07-16 12:43
thanks for languages global mens
2019-07-13 08:19
yes np
2019-07-13 08:25
El grito? wtf
2019-07-13 09:02
i think I use gritar (to cry out) r instead of (llola)r to weep sorry bro.
2019-07-13 09:05
Spanish more broken than mine wtf))) how am that possible
2019-07-16 09:29
#172
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Germany fosterna 
+1
2019-07-16 12:44
Lmao 8/8
2019-07-15 16:49
Who cares tier3 team
2019-07-13 07:52
#5
TenZ | 
United States traviticus 
#4
2019-07-13 07:53
wtf
2019-07-13 08:17
#62
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Finland (RANE) 
think u don't know what tiers mean men
2019-07-13 16:13
is this fucking turish kid kidding He does not know what is even tier 3 team ENCE is #4 and in hes opinion its tier 3. what about he others under ENCE. are thay tier 3 aswell ??
2019-07-15 09:33
After 2 week they will down #15
2019-07-15 10:37
how. there is only iem chigago and that doesnt drop #4 to #15 you fucking retard
2019-07-15 17:02
don't get baited by Kebab, friend
2019-07-15 17:20
got baited idiot
2019-07-15 17:55
lol got baited 2 guys
2019-07-15 18:14
lol baitception
2019-07-16 09:43
vittu että hävettää
2019-07-16 16:53
Impressive
2019-07-16 09:13
turkish scene? OMEGALUL
2019-07-16 09:43
+1 OMEGALUL
2019-07-16 10:29
xd
2019-07-18 01:09
+1
2019-07-22 20:29
#4
TenZ | 
United States traviticus 
+1 People just claim it bc they're upset a country with 5.5 mil people has a better csgo scene than their country
2019-07-13 07:53
Thanks for kind words
2019-07-13 09:40
Still biggest fillers ever, besides gambit perhaps
2019-07-13 10:02
You can't talk about ENCE when only good player in vitality is Zywoo. Other vitality players might have their games, but suppose we can call them as a fluke games for them.
2019-07-14 16:41
#89
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Yes, but atleast they aint Fluking
2019-07-15 08:55
#158
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World Dingospo 
You can't fluke if you never had any success to begin with
2019-07-16 11:10
I meannnnn kato
2019-07-16 11:11
nothing against ence but saying the only good player on vitality is zywoo is a blasfemy
2019-07-15 13:02
you could say ALEX or ApEX are above average player, but zywoo is the only top 20 material there.
2019-07-15 17:13
#150
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
Most teams only have one or two players in the top 20 so i dont see that being a big issue
2019-07-16 09:37
#149
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
No one is upset about Finland's scene being better than theirs. Don't think a scene with a single team is something people are very envious of.
2019-07-16 09:36
#154
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Finland q_p 
I for one am definitely not envious of MVP PK
2019-07-16 10:36
#209
Twistzz | 
Korea Jew2K 
Bringing another team into this because u mad that i roast finland lol. not even korean
2019-07-18 01:08
#211
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Finland q_p 
Ok Mr. Replies two days later for no reason
2019-07-18 08:27
#6
mixwell | 
United States Frotha 
+1
2019-07-13 07:57
lost soda league lul
2019-07-13 08:19
wtf xdddddddddddddd
2019-07-18 00:49
#10
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
ENCE inconsistent flukers. Prepares really hard and looses to Heroic. They are tier 3. sry can’t blame format.
2019-07-13 08:23
You can blame from #12 and #14, we dont care.
2019-07-13 08:31
#27
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Finland q_p 
You're saying they're basically like Fnatic and NiP?
2019-07-13 09:27
#29
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
Yes about like fnatic and NiP are today. No where near each of these teams in their prime though.
2019-07-13 09:39
+1
2019-07-16 11:21
That's a pretty good assessment lmao
2019-07-15 09:00
sweden mad cuz finland > sweden in hockey in football in csgo 😎 😎 😎 😎😎 😎 😎
2019-07-15 17:12
Finland > Sweden in football? Pepega
2019-07-16 09:06
How can I be mad about Finland being better than Sweden when Finland and Sweden are brothers mens? Big brother Sweden always support little bro Finland.
2019-07-16 13:52
sweden mad cuz finland > sweden in hockey in football in csgo 😎 😎 😎 😎😎 😎 😎
2019-07-16 16:51
Finland mad because Finland needs to learn Swedish in school 😎 😎 😎 😎😎 😎 😎
2019-07-16 17:05
I speak 5 languages, how about you 😎😎😎😎😎😎
2019-07-16 19:54
Not as many as you 😎😎😎😎😎😎
2019-07-16 20:05
HAhaaa 😎😎
2019-07-17 07:26
what languages?
2019-07-18 00:51
finnish english swedish tier 1 russian german tier 3
2019-07-18 15:25
so you can be the next hitler xDDDDDD im kidding have a good day/night
2019-07-18 17:49
Finland happy because FInland gets to learn Swedish in school* 😎
2019-07-17 07:27
You're probably the first Fin to say that in the history of ever.
2019-07-17 14:23
its just the uneducated retards who dont want a FREE language to be taught
2019-07-17 15:55
+1
2019-07-17 16:09
lol, fucking pappabetalar homo pojke
2019-07-18 17:52
+1 bättre folk täällä :DDD
2019-07-18 23:37
apina
2019-07-22 20:25
Good that i have exactly 1 course of swedish left and then never again :) worst ~300 hours ever spent. Would rather learn russia to communicate with team lmao
2019-07-18 15:37
This is the response I expected, thank you Misikaro.
2019-07-18 16:17
They lost thier BO1 which can happen to literally any team then where paired against their kryptonite team for the elimination BO3 who also lost their BO1 then went on the the finals they arent shit they just got shafted
2019-07-18 15:45
Stfu and say my name
2019-07-13 08:33
i say u gay
2019-07-13 08:46
+99999
2019-07-13 08:46
+12312423123
2019-07-13 09:48
#56
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United States jeonseol 
eu scene LUL
2019-07-13 14:41
+1
2019-07-15 08:35
#90
TenZ | 
Belarus horizzzon 
flair doesnt check out
2019-07-15 08:57
Na lul
2019-07-16 12:44
#187
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United Kingdom _xC4ctus 
FLUKENCE LUL
2019-07-16 14:04
FLUKENCE :)
2019-07-13 08:41
#15
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Denmark Xipingu 
LEAVE ENCE ALONE :’( :’( :’( Cry is cheap
2019-07-13 08:45
Fluke team. Fluke country
2019-07-13 08:53
Nt no scene
2019-07-13 10:15
Fluke team. Fluke country
2019-07-13 10:58
what if ence place last at chicago?
2019-07-13 08:55
#75
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Finland (RANE) 
I commit not living
2019-07-14 17:05
#86
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
They got a pretty unlucky group. 3 of those teams, ENCE struggle against.
2019-07-15 08:35
Only Vitality imo. One bo1 against Heroic really doesn't mean much when thinking about the overall picture. Also renegades haven't been themselves after the AUG nerf (which makes sense since they were the team that used it the most during their prime).
2019-07-15 17:18
Liquid was wym
2019-07-16 11:14
Liquid isn't in their group. hltv.org/events/4574/iem-chicago-2019
2019-07-16 13:47
Talking about the Aug. Liquid was the team that used it the most. Hell elige was one kf the first pros to do. It.
2019-07-16 13:48
ye mb
2019-07-16 13:48
Algood.
2019-07-16 13:48
Oh you were talking about the AUG thingy. My bad, didn't find the stat and couldn't remember correctly.
2019-07-16 13:48
They were disappointing in cologne, but I agree obviously. Whether or not they never get back to the top, it won't be a fluke, since they stayed there for months
2019-07-13 09:05
just after aug nerf ence CT sides became very bad. just embrace it teams like ence abused aug and after their nerf they are shit. :)
2019-07-13 09:05
I mean Vitality abuses more AUG than ence and they have got better result after aug nerf than before that.
2019-07-13 09:42
Because they're actually a skilled team that doesn't have to abuse a gun to win?
2019-07-13 09:51
I don't get your point. Vitality literally had 40% AUGs of all theirs ct guns bought at Cologne and that's why they performed good.
2019-07-14 16:42
And you can't call Vitality skilled team. They got one good player - Zywoo. Now that they are playing at ESEA GC other players might even get some kills because teams they are playing against are bad compared to them.
2019-07-14 16:44
#94
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Vitality has a ton of skill throughout the roster, Apex is a great aggressive player, rpk has excellent aim, that has never been his issue and NBK is one of the most versatile players in the scene. Obviously no one matches up to Zywoo but to suggest they arent a skilled team is bogus.
2019-07-15 09:00
#155
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Finland q_p 
Rpk and excellent dont belong in the same sentence
2019-07-16 10:39
#156
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Please actually watch games before commenting on them. That's literally what hes known for.
2019-07-16 11:02
He's not at got excellent aim. But yet again you think vitality will win without zywoo
2019-07-16 11:27
#196
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2019-07-16 21:57
#175
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Finland q_p 
He's also known for having one positive big event rating in 2019.
2019-07-16 12:49
#197
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Is aim a direct correlation to rating? Irrelevant point
2019-07-16 21:57
Abusing a gun to win =/= they have to abuse it to win. Simple English my friend
2019-07-14 18:03
yeah but they are using aug and thats why they win
2019-07-15 12:49
simple english
2019-07-15 12:53
They failed to abuse the gun. they tried their best, but other teams were better augists. After the nerf the gap to other teams got smaller.
2019-07-18 15:43
But vitality still performs after nerf
2019-07-13 10:05
Vitality use sgs ence not
2019-07-13 10:15
NBK started using SG back in early 2018 (possibly even late 2017 for EPL matches if i’m not mistaken) Nothing new there, and he wasn’t using the aug back then
2019-07-13 10:22
#115
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Switzerland sl4p3z 
yeah its just NBK and ZyWoo using Krieg, nbk since long time but who will say that zywoo is noob cuz he uses it ? lmao
2019-07-15 10:44
#224
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Finland Karppanator 
Tbh Ence's problems were 100% on the non-stable t side rounds where they got nothing going
2019-07-18 17:55
ence are definitely a really good team but i feel like they haven't really improved since the Blast win. Dont get me wrong I still think they could beat anyone in the top 5 for sure. I saw the liquid defeat coming cuz I watched a lot of ence's games before the major so i knew they were good but really slept on. TBH I was really butthurt cuz I like liquid.
2019-07-13 09:07
Let's be honest, the win against liquid was because liquid choked, as usual, not because ence was so good. Who tf loses after being up 15-8?
2019-07-13 09:52
At the other hand ENCE did similar comebacks so many times in the major that you can't just put it on the opponents choking.
2019-07-15 17:14
#25
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Venezuela anx420 
ah yes one team has shitty placement in the most stacked and prestigious tournament of the year and all their previous achievements go straight into the trash
2019-07-13 09:11
#28
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
Performing in these prestigious tournaments is what separates tier 1s from tier 3s.
2019-07-13 09:35
Imagine crying about BO1 when they loose and just win tournaments like blast where you play only 5 Bo1 to qualify for payoffs...
2019-07-13 10:08
#48
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
haha. contradictory indeed!
2019-07-13 13:55
#26
ZywOo | 
Poland cnc1615 
ence best achievement= major final xddd
2019-07-13 09:25
lmao who?? How many tourneys won?? Don't include meme parties.
2019-07-13 09:49
It's considered a fluke if u do good in 1 or max 2 at least moderate level tournaments. ENCE has already proven that not to be the case. There is no possibility of fluke anymore. It's over. Done. Dealt with.
2019-07-13 10:09
What Did they do after major ? 3rd (which isn’t even playoffs) and 1st of blast tournaments, which aren’t even tier 1 tournament and only Bo1 How is this not your definition of’a Fluke ?
2019-07-13 10:14
Ending Astralis' (ranked #1 most successful cs team in history atm) official era by going 3-0 against them, including de_nuke. I guess this means nothing but who am I to judge lol.
2019-07-13 13:48
#49
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
Many teams have now beaten Astralis even on nuke that no pride in that anymore. Don’t know if being the first team to do it really has any great value if you do it then practically dissapear. A one hit wonder, the definition of a fluke! They need to really step up if even to be considered tier2.
2019-07-13 14:01
still better than tier9 NIP or Fnatic, i mean when is the last time they achieved anything at all :DDD Years ago LUL.
2019-07-13 14:07
#55
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
Yes atm maybe but not better than when they where in their prime. Ence hasn’t even got a major or any player in yearly top 1 hltv ranking.
2019-07-13 14:38
#67
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
You dont need a major or a top 1 player to be an elite team, what kind of moron logic is that?
2019-07-14 16:42
#69
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
The logic is answering the claim of which team is better, not which team is elite or not! WTF can you even read? If so read the post you are replying to before putting your fat fingers to the keyboard.
2019-07-14 16:48
#70
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Ence has been an elite top 5 team since the major and they still are currently. No way you can still justify calling it a fluke. They only lose to elite teams in bo3s.
2019-07-14 16:49
#80
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
you are confused.
2019-07-15 08:23
#81
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Well enlighten me then, when have they lost to non-elite teams in bo3s?
2019-07-15 08:23
#83
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
All of a sudden you change the topic since #55 but thats fine. It’s performing against the elite teams that shows if you are worth top5. Who cares about winning against tier 5. Stop also making format excuses shouldn’t matter.
2019-07-15 08:38
#84
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Exactly and Ence consistently beat non top 5 teams and trade series with top 5 teams, thus they are top 5.
2019-07-15 08:34
#87
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
They will not keep it up hence=fluke. Loosing to Heroic shouldn’t happen even in BO1. They are too new to be overhyped.
2019-07-15 08:40
#88
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
"They will not keep it up hence=fluke." A fluke means it has already been proven to be an over-performance, which it has not. Also you can't predict the future so stop acting like you can, ". Loosing to Heroic shouldn’t happen even in BO1." Agree, Liquid also shouldnt lose to spirit and vitality shouldnt lose to sprout but teams dont emphasize bo1s like they do bo3s. Thats why Ence having not dropped a bo3 to a non elite team is a very important statistic. " They are too new to be overhyped." Theyve been competing and placing highly at big events for 6 months now, which is a LONG time in the eSports scene, theyre hardly new at this point and their results are that of a top 5 team. If youre annoyed that theyre overhyped then sure thats a fair statement, they have some pretty aggressive fans, but at the end of they day theyre a top 5 team currently and have been since the major run.
2019-07-15 08:44
#99
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
fluke can possibly not be ruled out yet loosing as part of prestigious LAN is bit worse nah not so long, want to see more in order to establish ENCE as a consistent top team and brand
2019-07-15 09:24
#100
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
"fluke can possibly not be ruled out yet" No lets say they were to go out in groups the rest of the year we would consider it a fluke period. However we cannot currently denote it as a fluke because they are still an elite team. "loosing as part of prestigious LAN is bit worse " Every team has off tournaments it would be ignorant not to see how they follow it up at Chicago before making these claims. Yes 6 months is VERY long in terms of CS:GO especially its literally 1/12 of its existence. Most 5 man rosters dont even last that long " want to see more in order to establish ENCE as a consistent top team and brand" I dont really care what you want to see. As of today 7/15 they are a top team.
2019-07-15 09:28
Exactly the key here is wait and see how things progress. Chicago and more. Elite team? ok,maybee. Era? nah They where compared to fnatic and NiP to which they don’t come close in terms of achievements.
2019-07-15 09:36
#107
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
Lol the fact that your even mentioning "era" and "ence" in the same sentence means you've been baited hard. Obviously theyre no where close to establishing an era but theyre certainly an elite team capable of taking any team in the world deep in a series.
2019-07-15 09:37
The quantity of teams that can be called elite are too great, they come and go at a rapid pace, don’t give a shit. Not baited you idiot look at what comment you started replying to. Comparing ence to multiple major winners.
2019-07-15 09:48
#113
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
"The quantity of teams that can be called elite are too great," I havent even told you how many teams I consider elite so i dont know where that comment comes from. Ence are elite right now regardless of how many teams are included ence is one of them. "Not baited you idiot look at what comment you started replying to. Comparing ence to multiple major winners." Exactly my point? You got baited into thinking that they actually believe theyre on Fnatics level.
2019-07-15 09:50
I dont care what you consider elite. Nope never believed that, how could anyone think that?
2019-07-15 16:36
Dude how is 6months time of constantly rising up the ranks, winning bo3's against top 10 teams, winning a tournament, after an "overperformance" in the major and getting to semi's in the big tournaments still a fluke?
2019-07-15 16:48
#140
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
If you dont care what I consider elite then how can "too many teams be considered elite"? Do you even realize what you're typing? Ence is elite by every metric.
2019-07-15 19:52
You’re either a fake flagging finn or metally impared, propably both!
2019-07-16 08:57
#143
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2019-07-16 08:58
4 full months already in top 5 hltv rankings, 5th month incoming. 6th month incoming in top 10. Please explain how that fits in the definition of "fluke". P.s. Aren't you cucks busy creating middle east in northern europe or some shit? I bet talking bs here in hltv aint gonna help you with that.
2019-07-13 14:08
#58
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
They are on the way down, plus the the difference in points are really few between all the top 10 teams. I think they belong somewhere in top 10 but not top 5 thus not a tier 1 team. Would be fun to see something more from them, but don’t think it will happen. ps. unfortunalty I don’t see anything of it as I don’t live anywhere near any of the ghettos, thanks for keeping me updated though you seem to know more than me!
2019-07-13 15:02
"They are on the way down." Okay nice argument now we can call every team a fluke. Are you proud of yourself?
2019-07-13 15:08
#60
GuardiaN | 
Sweden d4vv3 
No not all teams just teams that have brief and inconsistant visits to the top. Don’t get me wrong, they are good, but not as good as you biased fangays make them out to be. With the aug nerf they will have an even harder time I think.
2019-07-13 16:06
Okay so being 4,5 months in top 5 even when the scoreboards have been CONSISTENTLY updating, you still call this "brief and inconsistent". Give me an example of not brief, but consistent run. Do not give me the best you can find (Which would be Astralis whos era ended thanks to ence <3), but give me mediocre not brief but consistent run after which u can say the team is not a fluke. You can't.
2019-07-13 16:21
Imagine crying about BO1 when they loose and just win tournaments like blast where you play only 5 Bo1 to qualify for the grand final
2019-07-13 10:14
Imagine saying winning 4/5 bo1 and then in finale 2-0 vs astralis is a fluke, and that one bo1 loss proves it. Must be french brain
2019-07-14 16:53
you should read what op wrote man
2019-07-14 17:01
Flukest team ever
2019-07-13 10:18
this is a team of well-rounded and young(ok, except allu) pro players that delivers, wins cups and they sometimes(maybe most of the times) play extremely good and organized cs that breaks some bones and leads them even in a major final. They 've shown that they can hunt for the best comeback victories against the strongest opponents and this alongside others makes me believe in them, these guys are made of a legendary material. Never underestimate the power of ence.
2019-07-13 14:02
Ence is no where a fluke team, they just performed badly at a very stacked event. You can call windigo winning WESG or the likes of Furia beating Astralis at an event twice a fluke. Ence has done this shit for months together, one bad event doesn't make them a fluke team. #GodAllu
2019-07-13 14:15
#146
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United Kingdom EKersh 
ENCE got the least stacked group by far
2019-07-16 09:20
Well the upcoming major should settle the debate.
2019-08-01 17:54
I believe they will bounce back. This wil really be a true test of their mental prowess; to prove themselves after a rough last place exit. They've shown resilience in matches time and time again, rising from deficits against good opponents. I think they will work hard to prove they can still hang in the top4~.
2019-07-13 14:46
True, their BO1 was against a great upset team in Heroic and then they played Vitality, one of the top 3 teams.
2019-07-13 16:09
#78
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Lithuania Andy_2 
~ *ENCE FANS IN A NUTSHELL* ~ After winning Blast (a tournament known for it's mainly BO1-based format): BEST TEAM!!! EZ4FENCE !!!!one!111 EZ BLAST After going 13-16th in Cologne (a tournament with bo1 OPENINGS only and the other matches are bo3, except for the grand final): FUCKING SHIT FORMAT, FUCKING BO1 MATCH, WTF, SHITTY TOURNAMENT, FUCK THIS FORMAT WITH BEST OF ONES
2019-07-14 18:23
#92
TenZ | 
Belarus horizzzon 
cringe
2019-07-15 08:59
#121
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Lithuania Andy_2 
did it on purpose, tried to be a fan of ence as accurately as possible :)
2019-07-15 14:10
#95
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I guess well just Ignore top 2 finishes at the Major and Starladder since those dont fit your narrative.
2019-07-15 09:01
Which starladder? The finals were fnatic-navi lol
2019-07-15 09:20
#98
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
I misspoke they lost to the winners in the quarters. Only team that made Navi sweat, they were clearly superior to Fnatic that tournament.
2019-07-15 09:22
That only team was vici men))
2019-07-15 09:35
#108
NBK- | 
South Africa nimmaJ 
nt
2019-07-15 09:38
#96
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Finland Teukkasd 
omegalul c9 fan
2019-07-15 09:17
#117
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Switzerland sl4p3z 
yeah true imagine Giants won vs ENCE (that almost did) and vs C9 (almost too) they would be in finals (they just needed 6 rounds to be in) lmao that would be a fluke, blast is shit its fluke format (New one is a bit better)
2019-07-15 10:47
You know who is the biggest fluke team?? Ofc it's brazilians from furia
2019-07-15 08:29
Renegades*
2019-07-15 09:29
Yeah renegades run at major was great fluke salty finn
2019-07-15 09:43
Why so toxic? Do polskis get that mad that quick?
2019-07-15 09:44
Nahh you must definitely try harder to offend me pal
2019-07-15 09:48
+1 smart american finally, respect
2019-07-15 09:29
ENCE are alright, 4th team in world, but if anyone tries to say they are better then Liquid, Vitality or even Astralis they are delusional
2019-07-15 09:29
The top 4 is really messy besides liquid being #1. I wouldn't say they are better than Vitality or Astralis but I wouldn't say they are worse either.
2019-07-15 17:12
they are better than astralis ence: 1st Telia Esports Series Season 1 2nd DreamHack Masters Dallas 2019 3-4th cs_summit 4 1st BLAST Pro Series Madrid 2019 5-8th StarSeries i-League Season 7 3rd BLAST Pro Series São Paulo 2019 2nd IEM Katowice 2019 blastralis:
2019-07-18 08:33
when u mention 2nd at IEM Katowice, then nothing for astralis when astralis won Katowice lmao, retard.
2019-07-18 08:58
hmm.... fluke. They aren't favourites to win Tier 1 events.
2019-07-15 10:45
Literally one team right now is a favorite to win a Tier 1 event and that is liquid.
2019-07-15 17:13
2019-07-15 16:52
Not a fluke but i think the aug helped ence alot, and now that it got nerfed they will drop down to around #8. My opinion
2019-07-15 17:06
It might have helped xseveN and AleksiB the most but at the major for example Aerial never used it. I think the benefit other teams got from it was at least as significant if not even more significant than what ENCE got. Also there was a stat of how much teams were using the AUG and ENCE was right in the middle of other teams.
2019-07-15 17:10
#134
Szohn | 
Nepal Nepali 
Maybe they are just being countered?
2019-07-15 17:16
#147
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United Kingdom EKersh 
and they don't know how to counter back which means they are bad
2019-07-16 09:22
they have had one bad tournament this year
2019-07-16 11:19
#136
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Switzerland Jeded 
ENCE could win 3 majors back to back, people will still call Fluke because HLTV is a bunch of angry little men))
2019-07-15 17:18
#157
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Finland FinYuna 
+1
2019-07-16 11:09
@saitamaOPM
2019-07-16 11:17
Encefluke LOL
2019-07-16 11:21
I'm sorry to say that the ENCE fluke was kind of a fluke. How can you say that; ''Still placed 2nd-3rd at any big event post-Katowice major'', when they straight up DID NOT. You can't just say: ''oh well, their first playoffs match was against NAVI who ended up winning the tourney, so we cant count it. Then you have Cologne, where they straight up just played trash, no excuses. To conclude, yes ENCE is still a top 15 team, top 10 even perhaps. BUT their major streak was kind of a fluke.
2019-07-16 11:25
ukcs :DDD
2019-07-17 15:57
funny man.
2019-07-18 00:42
stfu t#xic re*^rded fanboy The truth is ence abused augs and won the matches. They had games where aleksib was top fragging dropping 40+ kills and in a blast event he got 4k by just camping in a corner with noob gun vs astralis. now that the aug is nerfed they have to win their ct sides with real skill and good tactics which just got countered in cologne.
2019-07-16 12:41
#169
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Portugal KSCERATOGOD 
Everyone thinks every team besides Liquid is a fluke these days. You can't expect people on HLTV to be reasonable
2019-07-16 12:43
there was no fluke, ez for allugator
2019-07-16 12:43
ok
2019-07-16 13:31
braindead/8 They were a victim of the bo1 in Cologne, but it was "ez4ence" when they won a blast tournament... #NO_AUG_NO_FLUKENCE #thecryisfree
2019-07-16 13:54
They are garbage.
2019-07-16 14:03
Because if there is a team that finds success who someone doesn't support, it automatically becomes a "fluke", surely you must be aware of how HLTV users think... smh my head...
2019-07-16 16:57
#194
k0nfig | 
Germany Trax_ 
Everybody underestimates Heroic in this case, they have solid fking talent and can easily upset in a BO1
2019-07-16 20:06
I honestly think Ence is exactly where they belong as of now. 4th best team in the world? I can see that.
2019-07-16 20:08
Renegades are the real fluke
2019-07-18 00:45
#208
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United Kingdom yungblades 
ENCE FLUKE LOL
2019-07-18 00:51
Barely a top 20 team never mind top 5, just another shitty team made to look good by aids aug meta
2019-07-18 09:03
Youngsters who see only top fraggers, highlights and ratios, hates and yell flukence because they dont see ENCE or 2019 playstyle. If team bases only individual skills and have actually nothing in terms of teamplay, it can do nothing in 2019 CS. You see firepower in teams like faze, navi, g2, even big, but you can see in their games that they are really helpless against teamplayteams. I hope that those teams can someday play like astralis ence liquid, so they can be real candidates of majors.
2019-07-18 09:21
what aer u having for dinner today
2019-07-18 15:40
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