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Every tier 1-2 team in the world is in rebuild or recovery phase for liquid to win a few lans every eu team has to have recent roster moves and a revamping roster, let's start the list. And just how much the stars aligned Faze NRG Astralis on breaks G2 Fnatic Mousesports Navi Ence not attending lans Renegades have visa issues and stabdins Hellraisers who still almost beat lulquid fags Mibr Avangar Think of it this way of the 8 major play off teams Ence Mibr Astralis Liquid Faze Renegades Mibr Navi All except liquid and Ence recently had roster issues or changes if this is what it takes for an na team the same core since esl one New York 2017 to be top 1 then na CS is still na CS so be a little more arrogant and get ready to cry in Berlin
2019-07-15 12:19
Liquid top 1
2019-07-15 12:20
+1
2019-07-15 19:23
#32
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Bulgaria Amerikana 
-1
2019-07-15 20:08
#59
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France Snabe_ 
+1 dude u can't say something else edit: liquid is top 1 i don't agree with the name checks out
2019-07-15 20:55
#78
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Poland anton1oo 
-1
2019-07-16 02:34
#2
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Denmark Karrigan500IQ 
+1
2019-07-15 12:20
#7
Stewie2K | 
United States bxteme 
+1
2019-07-15 12:26
That doesn't mean it's not free, it just means you can sell your tears for that much. CRY IS CHEAP LUL
2019-07-15 12:27
nothing is taken from nowhere and disappears nowhere you need to replenish salt in the body to cry
2019-07-16 03:24
It costs energy, sure, but you don't have to buy it.
2019-07-16 08:18
#21
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France EwiZz_ 
light mode omegalul
2019-07-15 19:18
#33
Zero | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
well I understand why French HLTVers use dark mode, it's obv bcs they don't wanna look at their flag 24/7
2019-07-15 20:08
xaxaxaxaxa also dark mode on hltv hurts my eyes
2019-07-15 20:09
#54
Zero | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
+1 xaxaxax
2019-07-15 20:44
And french people love "black mode" :DDDD
2019-07-15 20:14
#55
Zero | 
Slovakia t4gg3d 
+1 xaxaxaxa
2019-07-15 20:45
#46
karrigan | 
Norway JKR01 
lmao +1
2019-07-15 20:20
xaxaxaxaxa
2019-07-15 20:29
Oof
2019-07-16 06:49
#114
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United States tatsumi 
axaax
2019-07-16 13:57
#4
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
You're so dumb it hurts to read more than 2 lines
2019-07-15 12:21
+1 How much?
2019-07-15 12:25
#6
Xyp9x | 
Cyprus Xeeh 
So much I don't even know where to begin
2019-07-15 12:26
You're flag represents an illegitimate country nt
2019-07-15 20:14
UR FLAG ISNT EVEN A COUNTRY, OR A CONTINENT
2019-07-15 21:54
"other" LUL
2019-07-16 06:49
Never seen your flag either!! What country is even that
2019-07-16 14:01
Im sorry am i the one insulting someone elses country? no also im half canadian half american so ur really in the L zone
2019-07-16 17:30
It is not really a flag tho. My Only point.
2019-07-16 17:40
ur only point is shit im calling out the guy for insulting another country while hiding behind world flag i myself didnt insult any country so it doesnt matter what my flag is ill give u an analogy lets say someones eating chocolate and calls out another kid for eating chocolate im eating chocolate but being quiet i didnt hypocritcally call out anyone else so there is nothing wrong with me eating chocolate
2019-07-16 17:42
U called him out with CAPITAL letters? The other guy is most likely fake flagging, the other guy a troll in a swedish basement. Let’s not get ahead of our self. I did nothing you didnt do - only thing I did do was representing a legitimate country. Now go eat your chocolate or wut the fuq u R talking about.
2019-07-16 17:53
Your 0 iq strikes again You simply cannot process a very simple analogy No need to respond i wont be reading it
2019-07-16 17:54
You are a tough american/canadian. You be alrightyh’
2019-07-16 18:05
Double cheeseburger > liquid
2019-07-15 12:27
#11
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Romania kr1tex 
+1
2019-07-15 12:31
#112
NEO | 
Indonesia mrowkpio 
+1
2019-07-16 13:56
#9
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United States iscrying 
lmao this community can never give credits where its due, everytime someone is winning a lot, the reason is other teams being bad lol
2019-07-15 12:27
Sorry for bad taiping but other teams right now are playing like shit no team other than vitality and astralis has really stepped up at all
2019-07-15 12:39
#27
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North America daesoulae 
astralis is shit now
2019-07-15 19:29
They haven't been playing forever once they get back to it they will crush liquid. They almost beat chokequid before but na burgers picked vertigo and got the last t half so....
2019-07-15 20:07
#43
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North America daesoulae 
astralis has lost to furia, nrg, vitality, all teams that liquid has proven to be able to crush. thinking that astralis can come back something like that in the month and a half between now and starladder is wishful thinking
2019-07-15 20:16
Yet that was then. Astralis can and will come back probably not as strong or not as #1 but they aren't going to continue results like that
2019-07-15 20:24
I dont think Astralis finding form before starladder is impossible. Top teams can often go from 0 to 100 real quick and we know they can play good CS when they are on point. I still see Liquid as favorites ofc
2019-07-16 08:06
#91
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United States camdavis9 
just talking about these lineups from Astralis and Liquid, Liquid have had Astralis's number. As a matter of fact I think this lineup is undefeated against Astralis.
2019-07-16 06:49
Flag checks out another na retard found. Hard to beat someone that you never play on any lans. Where were liquid in katowice? Oh right NA still 1 major liquid 0 majors. Cry is still free.
2019-07-16 06:51
#98
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United States camdavis9 
They played them at ibp masters, blast pro series, and esl pro league and beat them every time. I don't know why this makes you so emotional
2019-07-16 06:56
How am I emotional na retard. Thats your name now btw. They played shit at every event just like astralis. I thought blast events didnt count when liquid loses. Except oh wait liquid is ass and so are you.
2019-07-16 07:06
lemme bookmark this till the major and then we'll talk
2019-07-16 06:45
understood
2019-07-16 06:50
#111
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North America daesoulae 
+1
2019-07-16 13:53
#26
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North America daesoulae 
+1
2019-07-15 19:29
When Astralis beat literally everyone it wasn't because the others were necessarily bad
2019-07-15 20:48
#12
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United States stephcurry30 
damn u really spent all this time to maintain ur delusions? liquid have been the top 2 team with taco and zews since forever until they picked up stewie and adren
2019-07-15 12:35
Scream more
2019-07-15 20:07
#14
Xyp9x | 
Europe NiQa 
It's almost like the scene is not a rigid thing. :O
2019-07-15 12:40
#15
Xyp9x | 
Europe NiQa 
Faze - @Blast they looked the best we could see them in a long time. NRG - ok, new system Astralis on breaks - Their breaks are a part of their performance. Nothing has changed in the team. G2 - G2 got in to the grand final after a long time Fnatic - yeah, shit storm Mousesports - ok, new team Navi - Navi have the same IGL/strats and two top 10(5) players in the worldk. Boomich is an upgrade the whole scene asked for a long time. Ence not attending lans - do you mean lans like Cologne? Renegades - Never have been stable championship contender. Hellraisers who still almost beat lulquid fags - Almost means NOTHING in a competition. Mibr - They were bad even in Astralis era. Avangar - irelevant team with one decent run
2019-07-15 12:51
G2 just added amanek and lucky and jackz and they haven't been in playoffs of any t1 event that isn't epl finals in framce. Renegades made legends in katowice and almost beat astralis Ence only attending cologne recently also been on breaks Mibr still made finals at two big events and almost beat astralis in katowice Navi just added boombl4 plus Zeus is retiring
2019-07-15 19:08
#19
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
G2 didn't "just" add amanek, lucky, and jackz. Lucky and jackz have been on the team since 2018 and amanek came in for botyy after the major. Renegades didn't almost beat Astralis, they took one map off them and got destroyed on the other 2. ENCE weren't on breaks, they couldn't attend EPL since they dropped out of MDL and I don't think they are apart of ECS either. When did this iteration MIBR make the finals of two big events? Also didn't almost beat Astralis at Katowice. They almost took a map off them in for their own pick and got destroyed afterward.
2019-07-15 19:14
Amanek has only played two t2 lans with g2 so yes the lineup is still pretty new and undevelooed. Ence haven't been able to attend lans so they have been weaker as a result. Mibr has been just a mess they can't close out anything.
2019-07-15 20:11
#44
Xyp9x | 
Europe NiQa 
Almost means nothing in any sport. You are either a champion or not. Also, you say that Astralis aren't in good shape, while you count "almost" victories against them as something positive for other teams than Liquid? Liquid "almost" beat Astralis was the story of the whole last year and the beginning of this one
2019-07-15 20:22
Look at head to head that is just horsesgit astralis raped liquid every team almost always 3-0 or 2-0 every game
2019-07-15 20:25
#49
Xyp9x | 
Europe NiQa 
Like any other team. The difference between the other teams and Liquid is that Liquid got beaten regularly in finals. Also, Liquid defeated prime time Astralis at IBP masters.
2019-07-15 20:27
Astralis were garbage at ibp masters and that event was garbage so I wouldn't count that still a legit win but nonetheless very shit
2019-07-15 21:53
#64
Xyp9x | 
Europe NiQa 
Ofc. you wouldn't count it. Like anything that doesn't fit your narrative. But it's hardly surprising after all you have written.
2019-07-15 21:56
Time to repharse retard. Liquid won the event legitimately and beat astralis however to say that was astralis was at their prime at that shit event is not really valid. Astralis were out of there element to say the least. I dont have a narrative for a fcking video game scene.
2019-07-16 02:23
#110
Xyp9x | 
Europe NiQa 
Ofc. because you say so. I don’t want to break it to you, but I am not the retarded one in this convo.
2019-07-16 08:50
#16
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Denmark Kon10R 
Liquid added Stewie in January ... If you feel it's a "long time ago" I'm an old man ... and you're NOT! ;O) Liquid has that 5 or 10% extra than everybody else, just like Astralis last year. It takes something SPECIAL to beat all others consistently.
2019-07-15 12:51
Feels like De Ja Vu when Astralis added Magisk in jan last year lol.
2019-07-16 06:51
> Renegades have visa issues and stabdins i mean i hate liquid but renegades would never beat liquid even in a bo1 and you gave them a round handicap
2019-07-15 19:11
Yes it's renegays but still they were looking somewhat consistent a while ago
2019-07-15 20:11
#20
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United States fatburger 
Renegades dont have visa issues Ence are attending events So are Astralis what the hell are you talking about accept that na has a good team
2019-07-15 19:16
Nice bait retard
2019-07-15 20:12
#66
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United States fatburger 
my bad i forgot ence not attending blast la makes them lan dodgers
2019-07-15 22:11
#69
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United States fatburger 
this was in fucking april
2019-07-16 02:27
nice bait again Dallasis in june and renegades havent been on lan since
2019-07-16 02:28
#72
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United States fatburger 
can u read dates
2019-07-16 02:27
hltv.org/matches/2333297/liquid-vs-ence-.. He was loaned in april yet he played for them in all there most recent lans except cologne Renegades havent played a match before this month since dreamhack dallas
2019-07-16 02:29
#75
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United States fatburger 
nice edit
2019-07-16 02:31
#76
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United States fatburger 
"renegades havent been on lan since" hltv.org/matches/2334737/mibr-vs-renegad.. hltv.org/matches/2334603/furia-vs-renega.. cologne and la????????????????????????????????
2019-07-16 02:32
Yes that's what I meant. Cologne and LA was literally just in the last two weeks before that they haven't played. Liquid for sure top 1 btw but stilll lucky
2019-07-16 02:33
I don't believe so
2019-07-15 19:22
#23
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Canada Bucket0 
Name checks out
2019-07-15 19:22
Yes I'm not trik
2019-07-15 20:13
"Astralis on breaks" LUL
2019-07-15 19:25
ok
2019-07-15 19:39
hahahahaha mad Europoor. he's probably not even from a European country that has a good scene like France
2019-07-15 20:07
Mad burger I will see you when you die of heart disease.
2019-07-15 20:13
CS top 1 military top 1 better than you top 1 Sorry you can't afford food and thus can't eat!
2019-07-15 20:13
Rofl what a idiot china has biggest and best military liquid isn't na and therefore USA isn't top 1 csgo scene. USA has to steal from idiots like you to have a corrupt and unreliable military.
2019-07-15 20:27
China using 1980s military tech lmaooooooo USA top 1 military ez pz! We are all Africans argument OMEGALUL USA #1 in everything sorry Europoor :(
2019-07-15 20:28
#1 most obese country #1 in people that believe angels are real #1 in military spending #1 in stupid fatasses
2019-07-16 02:27
so jealous youre typing through tears!
2019-07-16 03:32
Yes I want to be a senile sheeplike fatass with heart disease and debt
2019-07-16 05:50
hahahaha crying so hard eating your government issued potato dinner hahahahhaha
2019-07-16 08:00
#97
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United States camdavis9 
most obese nations in the world Nauru (Average BMI: 32.5) Tonga (Average BMI: 31.9) Samoa (Average BMI: 31.7) Kuwait (Average BMI: 30) Saint Kitts and Nevis (Average BMI: 29.7) Saint Lucia (Average BMI: 29.6) Kiribati (Average BMI: 29.6) Palau (Average BMI: 29.4) Micronesia (Average BMI: 29.4) Tuvalu (Average BMI: 29.3) Qatar (Average BMI: 29.2) Marshall Islands (Average BMI: 29.2) Egypt (Average BMI: 29.2) Jordan (Average BMI: 28.9) Belize (Average BMI: 28.9) United States of America (Average BMI: 28.8) nt
2019-07-16 06:55
#45
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United States PrimeHype 
The funniest part of this post is you including Liquid among those "rebuilding/recovery phase" teams lmao
2019-07-15 20:19
It was ottocorrect
2019-07-15 20:28
#58
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United States PrimeHype 
Is listing these teams twice ottocorrect too?
2019-07-15 20:53
yes actually my phone does that alot where it lags and I type something twice
2019-07-16 05:51
#57
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Germany istheGOAT 
Didnt read
2019-07-15 20:52
#61
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Canada Shadoww_ 
EU malding LMAO
2019-07-15 21:53
astralis era: "theyre only winning because everyone else is shit" liquid era: "theyre only winning because everyone else is shit" lmao
2019-07-15 21:54
#65
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Russia LeGoBoys 
Salty baited na fans. NA FANS LUL
2019-07-15 21:56
#74
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Germany BjornLothbrok 
True
2019-07-16 02:28
na fans are cancer but this is what we call making excuses /closed
2019-07-16 02:35
name checks out
2019-07-16 06:47
“Same core since 2017” How’s is that even an excuse Astralis have their core for way longer
2019-07-16 05:57
Astralis era: "They're only winning because everyone else is shit" Liquid era: "They're only winning because everyone else is shit" SK era: "They're only winning because everyone else is shit" Fnatic era: "They're only winning because everyone else is shit" NiP era: "They're only winning because everyone else is shit"
2019-07-16 06:19
#88
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United States Acehavok 
Yes mens, it’s never because they are good.
2019-07-16 06:42
#101
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Czech Republic wonderhead 
Well tbh the nip one is kinda true :p
2019-07-16 07:11
Dignitas and very games were not shit at that time rofl. Some of the best players CSS had to offer...
2019-07-16 08:28
#125
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Czech Republic wonderhead 
CSGO was newer and people didn't have as much experience on it, which made the skill gap lower. And as you see sometimes just because they were good at CSS or CS doesn't mean they would be good going into CSGO.
2019-07-16 18:51
this guy always has the most retarded posts and thats saying something on hltv lmao
2019-07-16 06:26
Somebody is just MAD
2019-07-16 06:56
+1
2019-07-16 07:14
G2 hasnt had a Roster change
2019-07-16 07:17
#106
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Slovakia sanjuro 
you could say the same about astralis and their era
2019-07-16 08:12
its not liquids fault that all these shit teams had to make changes because they are so fucking shit.
2019-07-16 08:34
#113
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Macedonia [toast] 
Omgosh, EU crybabies still making excuses, if Liquid wins tge major, then EU has to STFU
2019-07-16 13:57
#115
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United States tatsumi 
mad
2019-07-16 13:57
#116
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Macedonia [toast] 
NRG is not EU TEAM, PLASTIC FAN
2019-07-16 13:58
#123
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United States ferric 
Ez counter to your shitty argument. Liquid were top 2 with TACO and Stewie before Astralis' downfall and were an entire level above every other team except Astralis. If this was also a result of other teams being "shit" and not Liquid being good, you might as well discredit the entire Astralis era of 2018-February 2019. The only difference between now and before is that Astralis is a worse team now. Point disproven with logic, another libtard pwned
2019-07-16 17:59
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