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How to make an esport team?
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Im just wondering is it same like founding any sports team or is it easier? Did anybody have experience with this? And i dont mean some random mm team, i mean like real pro team with org
2019-07-15 14:02
Create Steam group and make avatars it's easy
2019-07-15 14:03
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Croatia gmchanger97 
I said not random mm team.. i mean team with coach, marketing staff, etc.
2019-07-15 14:04
#50
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Kazakhstan bjornzz 
That's what he said WTF 😝
2019-07-15 14:40
#55
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United States aynzinho 
But thats literally how it starts lol, you make a group with your friends/players you find and then make a logo etc for your team. Then you proceed to get signed by an organisation. If you want to do the whole marketing & staff thing, then you're looking to start an entire organisation and not a team
2019-07-15 14:55
#57
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Yes.. my fault, i thought org, not team
2019-07-15 14:57
#65
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Lithuania Andy_2 
+111
2019-07-16 15:13
So what are the steps to start an eSports team? They are: Start with the basics Choose one game to begin with Select your geographic area Establish your team branding Put your team together Find potential team members Select players for your team Set up your team infrastructure Make sure you have the appropriate hardware Select a team meeting location Compete at a higher level Promote the team Create a fan base Secure sponsorships
2019-07-15 14:04
#7
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Croatia gmchanger97 
But from administrative side of things.. do you need to found it like any other bussiness enterprise or is it easier? Where would you start if you want to found real esport team? I assume you need lawyers to make pro contracts, register team, etc?
2019-07-15 14:07
ofc you need legal counsel to make a contract and protec you from any trouble
2019-07-15 14:09
#19
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Croatia gmchanger97 
But thats why im asking from administrative side of things.. i guess it would be very hard to find lawyers with specialty in esports? So do you need sport lawyers or basic business ones?
2019-07-15 14:11
it's basic bussines tho, he just make a contract to athlete not playing the game
2019-07-15 14:12
Just study law ez
2019-07-15 14:15
#32
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Croatia gmchanger97 
That shit is boring
2019-07-15 14:16
At the very top-tier US universities (the majority of which are private non-profits), fees and living costs are likely to add up to around US$60,000 per year, but it’s also possible to study in the US at a much lower outlay. This is expensive P.S. Rather buy a tesla
2019-07-15 14:18
So 4 yrs of law school, ~240,000 max Difference is, payout is insane in the us. U can probably pay it back within 10 years with ease.
2019-07-15 14:23
only if you smart and if u go to harvard or YALE
2019-07-15 14:38
#56
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United States aynzinho 
and the chance of a HLTV user attending harvard/yale is literally the same as me joining Liquid tomorrow
2019-07-15 14:56
sad but true :(
2019-07-15 16:01
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United Kingdom Klashnekoff 
Put your team together Find potential team members Select players for your team aren't these 3 points just the exact same thing rephrased?
2019-07-15 14:10
1. put all potential player i mean 2. find potential player (Aimstar) 3. select the aimstar and decline other
2019-07-15 14:11
#28
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Yeah.. it would be hard to sign with existing pros cause contracts went sky high in last few years
2019-07-15 14:14
Polish super star bntet
2019-07-15 14:16
#25
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Kazakhstan bjornzz 
lmao
2019-07-15 14:14
#38
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Germany MichauS_S 
+1 - I can mostly understand
2019-07-15 14:19
if u have money ye its ez, if u dont its not ez
2019-07-15 14:04
#8
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Are esport teams profitable? I dont mean astralis and liquid, i mean t2 and t3 teams
2019-07-15 14:08
#21
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United Kingdom Klashnekoff 
if you sign a good player, give him a salary with a contract with high buyout then I'm pretty sure you can make money just from this alone if you play it smart.
2019-07-15 14:11
#24
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Yeah but i heard plenty of stories of players which dont want to sign long term contracts so if you would sign contract for a year or two player will just wait out contract and leave..
2019-07-15 14:13
#40
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United Kingdom Klashnekoff 
I mean no one is going to accept a long contract if that the terms are shit and the salary is poor, so I guess it depends upon what your aims are but if you are trying to compete and actually sign talented players who are as of yet unknowns then you stand to make a lot this way I reckon. If you just want to set up a t3 team that competes in all these shitty throw tournaments then just do that and have your team throw their and your way to riches man- plenty of people doing this already. Just get your ggbet sponsor and your good to go!
2019-07-15 14:19
#41
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Croatia gmchanger97 
I dont see point in that.. i dont want to be random russian scammer with scam matches and contracts.. i mean real esport team which will have at least some integrity
2019-07-15 14:20
Only very few teams are profitable at the moment. A lot of investments are happening so organizations have their place secured when e sports goes entirely mainstream.
2019-07-16 15:24
Invest money
2019-07-15 14:05
#10
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Is it profitable?
2019-07-15 14:09
Yes but u need to invest a lot of money.......
2019-07-15 14:10
But don't go only for cs go for dota/lol/cs/rainbowsixsiege/palladinis etc
2019-07-15 14:10
#23
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Croatia gmchanger97 
I have picture that cs is most profitable? Most events and huge fan base in europe
2019-07-15 14:12
Dota/Leauge have the largest prize pools but csgo is the largest esport So if you want direct cash return from tourney wins then the mobas, if you want return investment from a larger scene, then csgo
2019-07-15 14:17
#39
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Yeah.. i think csgo is much closer to real sports and their system than any other esport
2019-07-15 14:19
i aggre
2019-07-15 14:25
Add me in a team and we will be top-30 in few months men))) 😎👍
2019-07-15 14:06
#9
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Croatia gmchanger97 
I guess i would start on fpl and fplc first.. its easiest way to do it
2019-07-15 14:08
😒😒😒 Content
2019-07-15 14:09
#11
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Bulgaria Omaiguudnes 
ocelote from G2 had pocket money and was able to make G2, hes happy as fuck now how hard can it be 4head
2019-07-15 14:09
#14
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Croatia gmchanger97 
If your team isnt good as whole g2 franchise is it still profitable?
2019-07-15 14:09
#20
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Bulgaria Omaiguudnes 
depends, you have to get a fluke tournament or some really good performance to get a sponsor's attention The main sponsors you should be looking for are Hardware and Energy Drink ones for your players, i honestly have no idea how to do it
2019-07-15 14:11
#36
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Croatia gmchanger97 
I guess you have to have strong PR to even come to certain tournaments
2019-07-15 14:17
same as starting any brand, you have to find your core and workers needs quite a bit money if you wanna start big asap
2019-07-15 14:14
#27
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Other Nagardien 
Ask Ocelote.
2019-07-15 14:14
#30
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Croatia gmchanger97 
He is one in a thousand.. im more interested in other thousand and their experiences and problems
2019-07-15 14:15
#31
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Romania kr1tex 
Sure men I'm profesional esport manager from Zimbabwe just send me 5000 dolarz and I give u team
2019-07-15 14:15
#33
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Okay
2019-07-15 14:16
xD
2019-07-15 14:51
R u the guy that put team logos over flags?
2019-07-15 14:22
#43
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Croatia gmchanger97 
What?
2019-07-15 14:22
U do art men
2019-07-15 14:45
#52
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Maybe
2019-07-15 14:46
Yes men i know you from long time ago
2019-07-15 14:48
dude can i join your team lets win a major <3
2019-07-15 14:25
#47
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Sure.. pls carry in open qualies
2019-07-15 14:26
ok i will contact you when i am ready))
2019-07-15 14:27
check #59, forgot to reply, my bad.
2019-07-15 15:58
Aaahhh blllyyaaattt it almost looked like you were asking tips how to make an ESP cheat. I was somewhat disappointed coming here but good day to u sir.
2019-07-15 14:58
1.First you need to create a society that will represent your org on papers, you need a laywer for that ( basic lawyer nothing fancy ) Payment on creating the society differs from country to country so idk how much it will be in yours, ask first if you are about to go on. Let's pretend you created the society, you have the papers ready, everything is legal for now, you are ready to offer people a paper to sign in order to play under ur org. name. Finding players is the hardest part IMO. I saw you said something about fplc/fpl, that's bad trust me, own experience. You will say why, i assume they are good players if they are there? Totally wrong. a) Some people are good only on pug, playing pugstyles wich in 90% of the cases it will fail vs a team because you can't really do anything you do in pug vs a solid team, you will get deleted from map within a second. ( Advice: Try to seek players who have been playing for teams before, got hltv history and he actually wants to tryhard and achieve something, this type of players are seeking something they could never achieve in the past because people are avoiding TRYHARDING, thinking 4hours/day pracc would get them on top | WRONG ) b) I assume you will start from 0, open leagues amateurs and stuff ( there is qualifiers for advanced also on esea ) but i would suggest you to avoid the money eaters and actually find good people who are willing to tryhard and are on good mod/attitude willing to learn and accepting when he's been doing wrong. So offering contract from first day of playing will attract only ppl with "CV" on their back but that's it, no quality ingame. If you actually manage to do this, you can earn profit out of it because for sure they will start winning at some point, but like i said, finding 5 players to get along and ofc being good at the game...thats hard af :) Good luck though
2019-07-15 15:47
#63
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Thanks for so complete and informative reply my friend!
2019-07-16 15:09
#62
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Austria chris_de_b0ng 
You need a shitton of money first of all lol
2019-07-15 16:02
#64
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Shitton is relative.. costs are certainly lower than football, basketball, handball or any other "real sport"
2019-07-16 15:11
#70
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Austria chris_de_b0ng 
Costs may be lower but you get a LOT more out of sponsorships in Football for example
2019-07-16 15:31
#73
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Of course but few people in the world have money to buy top tier football club
2019-07-16 15:55
#66
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Spain VIKTORAL 
maybe he has?
2019-07-16 15:17
#67
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United States RULE34TRACER 
Make popular content then venture into esports with a solid following. Eventually the investors will come.
2019-07-16 15:20
if your budget is high you will succeed with what the french guy said earlier.
2019-07-16 15:22
#76
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Yeah but high budget alone isnt enough.. loot at t1 teams mibr, faze, etc.. they have huge budgets in t1 and its still not enough
2019-07-16 16:01
#80
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
That's not a really good example is It? I mean they are still relatively successful and have been in the past. I think a team that could offer a good example for you to follow is FURIA.
2019-07-16 16:46
#71
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Portugal Digassmen 
Lost myself writing these, sorry for the big text and may be a bit disorganised If you want to go through the easy way you go het yourself an org that is interested in you and then you follow the normal steps, the hard way takes maybe longer but i think is more challenging and interesting So you find the group of five players you want to be the core team, you don't need anything else, no coach, no org, nothing Then you guys will play together on mm, face it and other free websites, you will get the feel of each, which role os better for each so you get to organize yourselves If things went wrong maybe the roles are still not right, maybe there is no quimic between players or maybe some player is just not suit for it If everything went well you will start a minor investment on esea or another paid website like it, you play there as you will get better players and more competitive games You also start training together on maps offline to memorize strategies, grenades, etc While you do this start going to either face it or esea tournaments, a good way to start earning some money and maybe some recognition Getting to this point you try going for bigger tournaments, like open qualifiers for the region minor of for example a major, there you will get a lot of experience and if you get to next phase which will probably appear on hltv, great, you team as a registration which will get you the proper recognition This time will be the worst as you will need to play cs like you never did, conquer a good ranking on here like on the top 100 So now you have a core team that is strong, coordinated, known to some, maybe has some fans, sometimes earns some cash from tournaments Here is when you start looking for an org, with this portfolio it will be much easier to find a medium-medium/high org that will sponsor you in the best way, way better than the one you would have started if it was chosen day one, this way i think is the best way to create an esports team
2019-07-16 15:33
#75
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Sorry i wrote team but i meant org.. im nowhere near good enough to play in pro team or coach them or whatever i meant founding of organisation which will have csgo team but thanks a lot for such a complete and informative reply.. i appreciate it a lot!
2019-07-16 16:00
#87
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Portugal Digassmen 
you welcome, always here to help
2019-07-17 02:05
let's make a team together, I have a very profitable company that sells apples so I could invest in a pro organization, what do you say?
2019-07-16 15:47
#74
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Where are you from?
2019-07-16 15:58
Applelandia
2019-07-16 16:03
#78
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Croatia gmchanger97 
From town of appleton?
2019-07-16 16:04
From a jurisdiction of Applebury
2019-07-16 16:40
Zagreb, currently spending time with my family at Belo Horizonte, Brazil
2019-07-16 19:34
#82
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Croatia gmchanger97 
You could grow apples in croatia, why did you go to belo horizonte? Which player would you like in a team? Out of the currently free agencies?
2019-07-16 19:38
I'm half Brazilian, I went to visit my family I would ask you first what type of players do you want, regional, international, top tier...
2019-07-17 00:54
#88
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Cost wise i think that it would be cheapest to sign regional players that arent under any pro contract and i dont think strictly balkan area, there also are plenty good players from austria, italy, hungary, etc. So team would probably be english speaking, unless we can find good players in strict croatian speaking area I think that they are many great players around here who didnt have real chances to play and it would be good connecting them with some young talents.. from the top of my head biohazard (italian fpl player), neno (macedonian ex-valiance player) and 3 young talents Maybe even look at nyx's contract, how long is it and what is buyout.. he is best croatian player and in general he is amazing, problem is that he didnt have real chance to play at high level I also think that regional players are good solution cause in general in balkans and central europe living standard is lower so from the start money shouldnt be high as in scandinavia for example
2019-07-17 09:37
that sounds like a good idea, I would suggest players that know English, or are willing to learn it, as that will give them more opportunities internationally, neno and nyx are good choices, they could act as the more experienced players, which is always good when forming new players and teams
2019-07-17 15:54
#91
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Croatia gmchanger97 
yeah of course.. thats why i said biohazard cause he has like 4000 matches on faceit and he has been playing fpl for a some time and he had played in some international times for a short time so i assume he has pretty good english, also he has great experience and he currently isnt under any org.. but neno and nyx should certainly be core of team, well experienced and well proven players and its possible to build croatian speaking team around them and drop international team and idea.. i think there is great potential here, especially cause cr4zy are only real team and bluejays and locastic arent anywhere close to top tier we can talk more seriously if you are interested in this idea
2019-07-17 16:28
#83
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Greece Petsos 
1.Create a team 2.Find 4 players to play with (for cs go) 3.Customize your team (Make banner etc.) 4.Train hard so your team can compete with pro lvl teams 5.Qualify for an event 6.With a bit of luck and a lot of training , if u get a good place at the event your team will get attention 7.Organisations will reach you to make contracts and shit 8.You are ready But to achieve that u need to find the right players to play with and train as hard as you can .
2019-07-16 19:44
#84
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Croatia gmchanger97 
Im not interested in playing with a team cause im not anywhere near of pro level but thanks for input! At the end i think that PR is biggest part of it
2019-07-16 19:45
#85
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Greece Petsos 
no problem mate
2019-07-16 19:46
everything is about money
2019-07-17 09:45
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